RH

"Rob H."

22/10/2009 4:20 AM

What is it? Set 307

Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
afternoon, here is this week's set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


This topic has 46 replies

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

24/10/2009 7:21 PM

Artemus wrote:

> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>The tool was sent to me a few weeks ago and I couldn't find the email
>
> when
>
>>made this week's post, I looked for it again today and found it, there
>
> were
>
>>no measurements included but he did say: "It is marked HAYDEN-NILOS Pat.
>
> No.
>
>>469568 Made in England." There was also another photo of it:
>>
>>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album11/IMG_0021.jpg
>>
>>I'm not sure if British patents are available online, haven't had time
>
> to
>
>>research it yet.
>>
>
>
> I found several sites that had British patents available but none returned
> anything with this number. I also found that GB469568 was issued in 1937
> http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/patent/p-about/p-whatis/p-oldnumbers/p-oldnumbers-1916.htm
> so maybe the online databases just don't go that far back.
> Art
>
>

A google search for HAYDEN-NILOS by itself shows the company made a
number of different crimping tools to attach ferrules to hose
assemblies. The pictures looks like it might be some type ofa crimper.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 1:30 AM

1753: Sharpening Steele



Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 4:58 AM


"David Nebenzahl" wrote:

>> 1753: Sharpening Steele

> I remember we had one in the house when I was growing up, that my
> dad used to sharpen the carving knives and such.


Mine gets used almost every time I cook.

Lew


ld

"'lektric dan"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 6:27 AM

On Oct 22, 3:20=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

Joining the game late (very busy at work/home)

1753. Hone steel. NOT for sharpening, for honing the edge. You use
stones to sharpen.
1754. Not a clue on that one. When I hear the answer it will be
obvious.
1755. Rope making machine. Twine goes in between the "spokes and
through the shaft the handle is attached to, crank the handle and rope
comes out the shaft.
1756. Better picture would help. What happens when the "T" is rotated
(I assume it does)?
1757. Darkroom timer
1758. Used vertically, a fence post driver; used horizontally, a
battering ram. Is it hollow and open on the small end? Fence post
driver (Or I should more properly say a "T"-post driver)

LF

Leon Fisk

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

24/10/2009 1:15 PM

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:49:36 -0400, "Rob H."
<[email protected]> wrote:

<snip>
>Four of the six have been answered correctly this week:
>
>http://answers307c.blogspot.com/

Any chance of getting some more pictures for item 1756?

A bit more detail on the end that is blurry may be of help,
along with some rough measurements for size (shrug).

I KNOW this isn't your work Rob, your pictures are always
way better :)

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
Remove no.spam for email

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 7:30 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Rob H. <[email protected]>
wrote:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1753: Sharpening steel

1754: Door bell?

1755: Rope braider?

jj

jeff_wisnia

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 7:19 PM

Steve W. wrote:

> Rob H. wrote:
>
>>Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
>>afternoon, here is this week's set:
>>
>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>Rob
>
>
>
> 1753 - Knife steel, used to smooth the cutting edge burr on a knife.

Yes, you sharpen knives with a stone and use the steel as you said. Done
properly, it's a two step operation.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.
>
> 1754 -
>
> 1755 -
>
> 1756 -
>
> 1757 - Looks like a darkroom timer. Does it have a lever on the back
> switching it from 1 hour to 1 minute?
>
> 1758 - Looks like a forcible entry door ram. Ours isn't nearly as pretty
> though!
>
>

DN

David Nebenzahl

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 1:38 AM

On 10/22/2009 1:30 AM Lew Hodgett spake thus:

> 1753: Sharpening Steele

That's what I was going to guess (though I think I'd drop that last
"e")[1], though it's hard to tell without being able to see the surface
of the rod, which would have fine ridges (like a big file). I remember
we had one in the house when I was growing up, that my dad used to
sharpen the carving knives and such.


[1] OTOH, maybe that's Remington's brother?


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

DN

David Nebenzahl

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 1:42 AM

On 10/22/2009 1:20 AM Rob H. spake thus:

> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

The purpose of 1754 seems to be to pull a cord, or to release tension on
a cord, by squeezing the two metal cups together.


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

DN

David Nebenzahl

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 11:08 AM

On 10/22/2009 7:58 AM Bill spake thus:

> David Nebenzahl wrote:
>
>> On 10/22/2009 1:20 AM Rob H. spake thus:
>
>> The purpose of 1754 seems to be to pull a cord, or to release
>> tension on a cord, by squeezing the two metal cups together.
>
> I was thinking just the opposite.

The opposite of what? Do tell.


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

DN

David Nebenzahl

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 11:28 AM

On 10/22/2009 11:08 AM David Nebenzahl spake thus:

> On 10/22/2009 7:58 AM Bill spake thus:
>
>> David Nebenzahl wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/22/2009 1:20 AM Rob H. spake thus:
>>
>>> The purpose of 1754 seems to be to pull a cord, or to release
>>> tension on a cord, by squeezing the two metal cups together.
>>
>> I was thinking just the opposite.
>
> The opposite of what? Do tell.

Ah, so; after someone else suggested this might be a doorbell, the light
went off. What I thought were "cups" could be bells.

Still seems like an awkward, roundabout way to do it, though.


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

Dn

DDDudley

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 4:55 PM

Rob H., wrote the following at or about 10/22/2009 3:20 AM:
> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

#1753 - Sharpening/honing steel for cutlery

#1754 - String operated door bell

#1755 - Some sort of round tenoning jig or cutter. Wooden wheel spokes?

#1756 - Other than long, metal thing I haven't a clue<g>

#1757 - Darkroom Timer (or egg timer for wealthy gadget freak)

#1758 - Battering Ram (Used by the police when they come a'calling and
aren't selling tickets to the Policeman's Ball)

DN

David Nebenzahl

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

24/10/2009 11:42 AM

On 10/23/2009 3:49 PM Rob H. spake thus:

> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "David Nebenzahl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Ah, so; after someone else suggested this might be a doorbell,
>>> the light went off. What I thought were "cups" could be bells.
>>>
>>> Still seems like an awkward, roundabout way to do it, though.
>>
>> Hmmm... a string-operated doorbell. What will they think of next? : )
>
> I meant to give a clue for this one before I left for work this
> morning but somehow forgot, I'll post it now to give you something to
> think about before you check out the answer page, the wooden device
> with the rope and metal jaws is related to a popular American sport.

OK, I'll bite: a bell from a pinball machine?


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

Dp

Dddudley

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

24/10/2009 6:29 PM

Artemus wrote:
> "Rob H." wrote ...
>> I meant to give a clue for this one before I left for work this morning
> but
>> somehow forgot, I'll post it now to give you something to think about
> before
>> you check out the answer page, the wooden device with the rope and
> metal
>> jaws is related to a popular American sport.
>>
>
> Busting my balls?

Hmmm. Okay, TWO American sports! ;)

SQ

"Stephen Quinn"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 3:45 AM

>
> 1753) This looks like a sharpening iron for a carving knife (turkey
> carving, not wood carving).
>
> It is like a file with the grooves parallel to the length
> of the iron.
>
> I've not seen one with what looks like an articulated hanging
> ring on it before, however.

To hang from a butchers belt - my dad wore/used one.

CYA
Steve

KM

"Kerry Montgomery"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 9:46 AM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 1758 Several people have suggested "Fence Post Driver".
> I don't want to quibble, or pick nits, or argue... but... (Here he goes
> anyway.)
> With the handles offset on one side, if this were used a a fence post
> driver, your wrists would be working overtime to keep it straight. I'd
> expect the handles on a fence post driver to be symmetrical about the
> center of gravity.
>
> "'lektric dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:03591d70-c833-4fd9-80da-22f2e374dbd6@k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 22, 3:20 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
>> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
> Joining the game late (very busy at work/home)
>
> 1753. Hone steel. NOT for sharpening, for honing the edge. You use
> stones to sharpen.
> 1754. Not a clue on that one. When I hear the answer it will be
> obvious.
> 1755. Rope making machine. Twine goes in between the "spokes and
> through the shaft the handle is attached to, crank the handle and rope
> comes out the shaft.
> 1756. Better picture would help. What happens when the "T" is rotated
> (I assume it does)?
> 1757. Darkroom timer
> 1758. Used vertically, a fence post driver; used horizontally, a
> battering ram. Is it hollow and open on the small end? Fence post
> driver (Or I should more properly say a "T"-post driver)
>
Alexander,
Not arguing, quibbling, or picking nits...
On at least some of the "T"-post drivers, the handles ARE offset to one
side:
http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00KBdaoheJyYuwM/Post-Driver.jpg
http://www.highhopesgardens.com/Blogphotos/2006/pounder.jpg
http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00evFEkdZAGRrOM/Post-Driver-Hammer.jpg
http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=160&uid=367484733
But, here's the type of driver I'd want to use:
http://www.vectorpowerdrive.com/images/model2/stat_big.jpg
Kerry

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 6:43 AM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1753 is a chef's steel for honing knives
1755 looks like a wheel spoke tenoner
1757 is a Graylab photo enlarger timer
1758 looks like a very elegant steel fencepost driver

LLoyd

pp

pierre

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 3:54 AM

1758 is a battering ram used by police forces to break down doors.

Pierre

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 2:59 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

I had a bit of trouble connecting to the news server yesterday, so here
are my guesses, perhaps a bit late to the party:

1753 - Sharpening steel for knives

1754 - Press or mold for some semi-soft substance, maybe butter? (I'm
assuming the top arm must be pivoted someplace near the metal
hemisphere, so that pulling the string would bring the two hemispheres
together.)

1755 - It seems I should recognize this--I think I've seen pictures of
them around somewhere. Possibly a tool for unraveling and reforming
wire rope, say when making splices? Or maybe the driving end of a large
roasting spit?

1756 - Some sort of a hitch pin or similar device for locking things
together? A door closer?

1757 - Ye olde darkroom timer, used to time exposures on an enlarger or
print frame. Typically, the unit controls both a safelight and the
printer bulb, and there's a switch to allow focusing, etc. that turns on
the enlarger without timing stuff. If my memory serves me, one of the
hands marks a preset time, and operating the unit moves the other to
that preset and then counts down (seconds) until zero.

1758 - Motorcycle muffler?

Now to catch up on other guesses...

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 1:34 AM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1753 - sharpening steel

1757 - photographic timer (probably Gralab)

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 9:40 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob


1753 - Knife steel, used to smooth the cutting edge burr on a knife.

1754 -

1755 -

1756 -

1757 - Looks like a darkroom timer. Does it have a lever on the back
switching it from 1 hour to 1 minute?

1758 - Looks like a forcible entry door ram. Ours isn't nearly as pretty
though!


--
Steve W.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 9:52 AM

Ted S. wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:20:56 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
>
>> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
>> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 1757 is used in photography to set exposure time. I've also seen such
> timers used in academic quiz competitions: the buzzers are plugged
> into the timer, so that you can't buzz in after time expires.

Definitely a Gralab darkroom timer,
http://www.gralab.com/products/details.asp?ID=11, or clone thereof. That
particular one has seen hard use.

BB

Bill

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 10:58 AM

David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 10/22/2009 1:20 AM Rob H. spake thus:

> The purpose of 1754 seems to be to pull a cord, or


> to release tension on
> a cord, by squeezing the two metal cups together.
>

I was thinking just the opposite.

Bill

BB

"Bill"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 6:48 PM


"David Nebenzahl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 10/22/2009 11:08 AM David Nebenzahl spake thus:
>
>> On 10/22/2009 7:58 AM Bill spake thus:
>>
>>> David Nebenzahl wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/22/2009 1:20 AM Rob H. spake thus:
>>>
>>>> The purpose of 1754 seems to be to pull a cord, or to release
>>>> tension on a cord, by squeezing the two metal cups together.
>>>
>>> I was thinking just the opposite.
>>
>> The opposite of what? Do tell.
>
> Ah, so; after someone else suggested this might be a doorbell, the light
> went off. What I thought were "cups" could be bells.
>
> Still seems like an awkward, roundabout way to do it, though.


Hmmm... a string-operated doorbell. What will they think of next? : )

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 7:01 PM


>>>> On 10/22/2009 1:20 AM Rob H. spake thus:
>>>
>>>> The purpose of 1754 seems to be to pull a cord, or to release
>>>> tension on a cord, by squeezing the two metal cups together.
>>>
>>> I was thinking just the opposite.
>>
>> The opposite of what? Do tell.
>
> Ah, so; after someone else suggested this might be a doorbell, the light
> went off. What I thought were "cups" could be bells.
>
> Still seems like an awkward, roundabout way to do it, though.


It's not a doorbell, the rope in the front probably went to a foot pedal,
steppiug on it would have brought the metal parts closer together. The base
of it was most likely attached to a table or workbench.


Rob

BB

"Bill"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 8:00 PM


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bill wrote:
>
>> Hmmm... a string-operated doorbell. What will they think of next? : )
>
> Pretty common state of affairs in England/Europe in the 1800's ... the
> bell strings, ropes and pulleys in a multi-story house look like our
> electrical rough-in's today.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)


It makes perfect sense..it's funny how you can evolved ideas for granted.
The closest I got to learning anything like that in school was learning
about the "dumb waiter". Do they still put "counter-weights" in new windows?

Bill


sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 12:56 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote:

>It makes perfect sense..it's funny how you can evolved ideas for granted.
>The closest I got to learning anything like that in school was learning
>about the "dumb waiter". Do they still put "counter-weights" in new windows?

Windows haven't been made that way for years.

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 12:46 AM

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Bill wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm... a string-operated doorbell. What will they think of next? : )
>>
>> Pretty common state of affairs in England/Europe in the 1800's ... the
>> bell strings, ropes and pulleys in a multi-story house look like our
>> electrical rough-in's today.
>>
>> --
>> www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 10/22/08
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
>
> It makes perfect sense..it's funny how you can evolved ideas for granted.
> The closest I got to learning anything like that in school was learning
> about the "dumb waiter". Do they still put "counter-weights" in new
> windows?
>
> Bill
>
>
>

Sash weights.

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 12:48 AM

"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ted S. wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:20:56 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
>>> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> 1757 is used in photography to set exposure time. I've also seen such
>> timers used in academic quiz competitions: the buzzers are plugged
>> into the timer, so that you can't buzz in after time expires.
>
> Definitely a Gralab darkroom timer,
> http://www.gralab.com/products/details.asp?ID=11, or clone thereof. That
> particular one has seen hard use.
>
>

All of them were rode hard and put up wet.

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 11:00 AM

1758 Several people have suggested "Fence Post Driver".
I don't want to quibble, or pick nits, or argue... but... (Here he goes
anyway.)
With the handles offset on one side, if this were used a a fence post
driver, your wrists would be working overtime to keep it straight. I'd
expect the handles on a fence post driver to be symmetrical about the center
of gravity.

"'lektric dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:03591d70-c833-4fd9-80da-22f2e374dbd6@k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 22, 3:20 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

Joining the game late (very busy at work/home)

1753. Hone steel. NOT for sharpening, for honing the edge. You use
stones to sharpen.
1754. Not a clue on that one. When I hear the answer it will be
obvious.
1755. Rope making machine. Twine goes in between the "spokes and
through the shaft the handle is attached to, crank the handle and rope
comes out the shaft.
1756. Better picture would help. What happens when the "T" is rotated
(I assume it does)?
1757. Darkroom timer
1758. Used vertically, a fence post driver; used horizontally, a
battering ram. Is it hollow and open on the small end? Fence post
driver (Or I should more properly say a "T"-post driver)

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 11:08 AM

Rich Grise wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:40:55 -0400, Steve W. wrote:
>> ...
>> 1757 - Looks like a darkroom timer. Does it have a lever on the back
>> switching it from 1 hour to 1 minute?
>
> The hand that's pointed at 57 takes one minute to go around, and the
> numbers are seconds. The hand that's at 7 is an hour all the way around,
> and each tick is one minute. IOW, it's minutes and seconds, 59:59 max.
> The knob in the middle turns the second hand to the # of seconds you want,
> and you set the "hour" hand to the # of minutes you want by moving it by
> that little tab bent forward at its end.
>
> Cheers!
> Rich
>
>

I have seen them that work as an hour unit and ones that could be set as
second only. Depended on which process you were timing.

Oh well.

--
Steve W.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 11:12 AM

jeff_wisnia wrote:
> Steve W. wrote:
>
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
>>> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> 1753 - Knife steel, used to smooth the cutting edge burr on a knife.
>
> Yes, you sharpen knives with a stone and use the steel as you said. Done
> properly, it's a two step operation.
>
> Jeff
>

Well if you wanted a GOOD edge you would use a three step process. Hone
to primary edge, stone to a secondary edge then steel the final edge.
My Wusthofs and Henckels get the full treatment about three times a
year. The rest of the time its a quick hit with the steel.

--
Steve W.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 6:49 PM


"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "David Nebenzahl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 10/22/2009 11:08 AM David Nebenzahl spake thus:
>>
>>> On 10/22/2009 7:58 AM Bill spake thus:
>>>
>>>> David Nebenzahl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/22/2009 1:20 AM Rob H. spake thus:
>>>>
>>>>> The purpose of 1754 seems to be to pull a cord, or to release
>>>>> tension on a cord, by squeezing the two metal cups together.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking just the opposite.
>>>
>>> The opposite of what? Do tell.
>>
>> Ah, so; after someone else suggested this might be a doorbell, the light
>> went off. What I thought were "cups" could be bells.
>>
>> Still seems like an awkward, roundabout way to do it, though.
>
>
> Hmmm... a string-operated doorbell. What will they think of next? : )


I meant to give a clue for this one before I left for work this morning but
somehow forgot, I'll post it now to give you something to think about before
you check out the answer page, the wooden device with the rope and metal
jaws is related to a popular American sport.

---

Four of the six have been answered correctly this week:

http://answers307c.blogspot.com/



Rob

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 4:48 PM


"Rob H." wrote ...
> I meant to give a clue for this one before I left for work this morning
but
> somehow forgot, I'll post it now to give you something to think about
before
> you check out the answer page, the wooden device with the rope and
metal
> jaws is related to a popular American sport.
>

Busting my balls?
Art

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

24/10/2009 4:51 PM


"Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:49:36 -0400, "Rob H."
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>Four of the six have been answered correctly this week:
>>
>>http://answers307c.blogspot.com/
>
> Any chance of getting some more pictures for item 1756?
>
> A bit more detail on the end that is blurry may be of help,
> along with some rough measurements for size (shrug).
>
> I KNOW this isn't your work Rob, your pictures are always
> way better :)


The tool was sent to me a few weeks ago and I couldn't find the email when
made this week's post, I looked for it again today and found it, there were
no measurements included but he did say: "It is marked HAYDEN-NILOS Pat. No.
469568 Made in England." There was also another photo of it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album11/IMG_0021.jpg

I'm not sure if British patents are available online, haven't had time to
research it yet.

A couple hours ago someone left this comment on the web site:

"1756 is a square recessed socket wrench, used to remove valve seats from
control valves. turning the handle counterclockwise locks the wrench into
position within the recessed valve seat. turning the handle to the right
will cause the wrench to be ejected from the socket."

I have not been able to verify this but it sounds promising. I'll ask the
owner for the size of the tool.


Rob







RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

24/10/2009 4:56 PM

>> I meant to give a clue for this one before I left for work this
>> morning but somehow forgot, I'll post it now to give you something to
>> think about before you check out the answer page, the wooden device
>> with the rope and metal jaws is related to a popular American sport.
>
> OK, I'll bite: a bell from a pinball machine?

If you haven't already seen it, I posted the answer along with a different
photo of it:

http://answers307c.blogspot.com/


Rob

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

24/10/2009 3:43 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> The tool was sent to me a few weeks ago and I couldn't find the email
when
> made this week's post, I looked for it again today and found it, there
were
> no measurements included but he did say: "It is marked HAYDEN-NILOS Pat.
No.
> 469568 Made in England." There was also another photo of it:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album11/IMG_0021.jpg
>
> I'm not sure if British patents are available online, haven't had time
to
> research it yet.
>

I found several sites that had British patents available but none returned
anything with this number. I also found that GB469568 was issued in 1937
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/patent/p-about/p-whatis/p-oldnumbers/p-oldnumbers-1916.htm
so maybe the online databases just don't go that far back.
Art

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

25/10/2009 6:12 PM

> Thanks Joe, I think this is probably the device/patent:
>
> http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19370728&CC=GB&NR=469568A&KC=A
>


Good job Leon! I'll pass this on to the owner of it and update the answer
page later on tonight.


Rob

JG

Joseph Gwinn

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

24/10/2009 6:11 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> "Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:49:36 -0400, "Rob H."
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >>Four of the six have been answered correctly this week:
> >>
> >>http://answers307c.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Any chance of getting some more pictures for item 1756?
> >
> > A bit more detail on the end that is blurry may be of help,
> > along with some rough measurements for size (shrug).
> >
> > I KNOW this isn't your work Rob, your pictures are always
> > way better :)
>
>
> The tool was sent to me a few weeks ago and I couldn't find the email when
> made this week's post, I looked for it again today and found it, there were
> no measurements included but he did say: "It is marked HAYDEN-NILOS Pat. No.
> 469568 Made in England." There was also another photo of it:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album11/IMG_0021.jpg
>
> I'm not sure if British patents are available online, haven't had time to
> research it yet.

Copies of British patents may be had gratis at the European Patent
Office. <http://ep.espacenet.com/?locale=EN_ep>

Note that they may not be had at the British Patent Office, which is
only for getting patents issued to inventors.


Joe Gwinn

LF

Leon Fisk

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

25/10/2009 2:59 PM

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:11:36 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> "Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:49:36 -0400, "Rob H."
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >>Four of the six have been answered correctly this week:
>> >>
>> >>http://answers307c.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> > Any chance of getting some more pictures for item 1756?
>> >
>> > A bit more detail on the end that is blurry may be of help,
>> > along with some rough measurements for size (shrug).
>> >
>> > I KNOW this isn't your work Rob, your pictures are always
>> > way better :)
>>
>>
>> The tool was sent to me a few weeks ago and I couldn't find the email when
>> made this week's post, I looked for it again today and found it, there were
>> no measurements included but he did say: "It is marked HAYDEN-NILOS Pat. No.
>> 469568 Made in England." There was also another photo of it:
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album11/IMG_0021.jpg
>>
>> I'm not sure if British patents are available online, haven't had time to
>> research it yet.
>
>Copies of British patents may be had gratis at the European Patent
>Office. <http://ep.espacenet.com/?locale=EN_ep>
>
>Note that they may not be had at the British Patent Office, which is
>only for getting patents issued to inventors.
>
>
>Joe Gwinn

Thanks Joe, I think this is probably the device/patent:

http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19370728&CC=GB&NR=469568A&KC=A

"Abstract of GB 469568 (A) 469,568. Strapping-machines.
BAKER, R. G. March 6, 1936, No. 6757. [Class 45] [Also in
Group XXV] Relates to means for tightening and severing band
clips for securing hose - pipes &c. "

"Claims of GB 469568 (A) performed, I declare that what I
claim is:

( 1) An implement for securing pipe clips of the kind set
forth comprising in combination a shank, a head provided 65
with a nib, claw or toe at one end of the shank, a
transverse slot in the head, a guillotine or shear blade
arranged to slide across the transverse slot, one wall of
which slot provides the second edge of the 70 guillotine or
shear, an abutment member which is movable along the shank,
is adapted to engage a transverse abutment of a clip and is
arranged to engage near one end of its available movement
the 75 guillotine or shear blade to urge it across the
transverse slot, and operating means, preferably giving
mechanical advantage, for moving the abutment member along
the shank 80 ( 2) An implement according to Claim 1 wherein
the guillotine or shear blade is arranged to slide in a
channel, preferably of rectangular etoss section, formed
through the head, into which channel the 85 slot opens.

( 3) An implement according to Claim 2 wherein the shank is
hollow, the channel of the head communicates with the hollow
of the shank, the abutment member com 90 prises a nut
slidable within the hollow of the shank and provided with an
abutment which protrudes at the outside of the shank through
a longitudinal slot therein, and a screw engaging the nut is
mounted 95 to be capable of rotation about, but incapable of
movement along, its axis within the hollow of the shank and
external means is provided for rotating the screw 100 ( 4)
An implement according to Claim 3 wherein the screw is
rotatably mounted in a ball thrust bearing secured at the
free end of the shank by a cap through which a spigot of the
screw projects 105 ( 5) An implement according to any of the
preceding Claims wherein one nib, claw or toe is formed
integrally with the head and an auxiliary nib, claw or toe
of different dimensions is pivotally attached 110 to the
head so as to be capable of overlying the first mentioned
nib, claw or toe.

( 6) An implement for securing pipe clips substantially as
described with reference to and shown in Figures 2 and 3 115
of the accompanying drawings.

Dated this 28th day of August, 1936.

ART HUR H GREENWOOD, Chartered Patent Agent, 39, Bank
Street, Sheffield 1.

Leaminghon Spa: Printed for His Majesty's Stationery Office,
by the Courier Press -1937."

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
Remove no.spam for email

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 1:14 PM

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:40:55 -0400, Steve W. wrote:
> ...
> 1757 - Looks like a darkroom timer. Does it have a lever on the back
> switching it from 1 hour to 1 minute?

The hand that's pointed at 57 takes one minute to go around, and the
numbers are seconds. The hand that's at 7 is an hour all the way around,
and each tick is one minute. IOW, it's minutes and seconds, 59:59 max.
The knob in the middle turns the second hand to the # of seconds you want,
and you set the "hour" hand to the # of minutes you want by moving it by
that little tab bent forward at its end.

Cheers!
Rich

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 2:48 PM

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:08:27 -0400, Steve W. wrote:
> Rich Grise wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:40:55 -0400, Steve W. wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 1757 - Looks like a darkroom timer. Does it have a lever on the back
>>> switching it from 1 hour to 1 minute?
>>
>> The hand that's pointed at 57 takes one minute to go around, and the
>> numbers are seconds. The hand that's at 7 is an hour all the way around,
>> and each tick is one minute. IOW, it's minutes and seconds, 59:59 max.
>> The knob in the middle turns the second hand to the # of seconds you want,
>> and you set the "hour" hand to the # of minutes you want by moving it by
>> that little tab bent forward at its end.
>
> I have seen them that work as an hour unit and ones that could be set as
> second only. Depended on which process you were timing.
>
> Oh well.

I've only seen the one type, so I'm not going to argue here. :-)

Thanks,
Rich

SR

"Steve R."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 1:51 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob


1753 A steel for sharpening carving knives.


1757 Darkroom timer.

Steve R.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 6:10 PM

Bill wrote:

> Hmmm... a string-operated doorbell. What will they think of next? : )

Pretty common state of affairs in England/Europe in the 1800's ... the
bell strings, ropes and pulleys in a multi-story house look like our
electrical rough-in's today.

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"Ted S."

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

22/10/2009 9:20 AM

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:20:56 -0400, Rob H. wrote:

> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1757 is used in photography to set exposure time. I've also seen such
timers used in academic quiz competitions: the buzzers are plugged into
the timer, so that you can't buzz in after time expires.

--
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fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 22/10/2009 4:20 AM

23/10/2009 12:07 AM

On 2009-10-22, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Next week I have plans on Thursday so I'll be posting on Wednesday
> afternoon, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

1753) This looks like a sharpening iron for a carving knife (turkey
carving, not wood carving).

It is like a file with the grooves parallel to the length
of the iron.

I've not seen one with what looks like an articulated hanging
ring on it before, however.

1754) looks like something designed to clamp something until the rope
is slacked. Not sure for what, however.

1755) Looks like something to turn a tenon on the end of a wagon
wheel spoke.

1756) Some kind of spreader -- not sure how it is mounted.

1757) Gralab darkroom timer. A fairly old one of the pre digital
versions, based on the knob. The knob allows you to set seconds
within a minute until it trips, the minute hand (shown at eight
minutes to go) moves in clicks to add minutes to the seconds.
You grip it by the bent-up tip.

It can operate a device connected to the outlet on the side
(likely the light in an enlarger most of the time) or just sound
a rather loud and annoying buzzer when the time runs out. The
switch on the top is likely to silence the buzzer -- I had to
add one to mine if I remember correctly. :-)

1758) Absolutely no idea.

Now to see what others have guessed.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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