John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Tom Wojeck" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > I'm building the queen anne table available from plansnow (Woodsmith
> > #43) and the directions call for aprons to be 13/16" wide. Is this a
> > common thickness? Would it be better to plane the stock to 3/4"?
> > Does it matter?
>
> Woodsmith often tends to "simplfy" things, often at the expense of
> clarity. In this case, I think they're simplifying by letting you
> use stock as it would typically come from a dealer, rather than
> making you plane it (as Mike Hide states, dealers typically sell
> 4/4 rough lumber planed to 13/16 when it's sold surfaced, the idea
> notionally being that the end user can plane/sand the extra 16th
> off to remove any handling marks).
>
> Since 3/4 is the "normal" dimension to design around, it would have
> been good of Woodsmith to at least mention what they were doing,
> and thus avoid the confusion you experienced. Certainly, if you
> have 3/4 stock on hand you could use that. You may need to adjust
> dimensions elsewhere in that case, altho odds are the difference
> will be 1/32nd, which probably isn't going to be important.
>
> John
I appreciate your help on this. I had intended to plane it down to
3/4", since the DW735 that I have has a postive stop at 3/4", so I
could make sure that all of my boards were identical. When I looked
the cut list over closer I noticed the 13/16" dimension. I bought the
stock roughsawn and it seemed to vary around 7/8". I was concerned
about getting everything milled to 13/16".
It also made it more straightforward to make 1/4" tenons with 1/4"
shoulders.
Thanks again for your input,
Tom Wojeck
Ed,
Thanks for your reply.
I really miswrote the message. I'm still a rookie and sometimes say the
wrong things. It's not width I was referring to it's thickness.
The plan calls for the ends to be milled into tenons to fit into the table
legs. The tenons are 1/4" thick.
However, I agree with you. If the plan says 13/16", then that's what I'll
make it.
--Tom
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Tom Wojeck wrote:
> > I'm building the queen anne table available from plansnow (Woodsmith
> > #43) and the directions call for aprons to be 13/16" wide. Is this a
> > common thickness? Would it be better to plane the stock to 3/4"?
> > Does it matter?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Wojeck
>
> I'm confused. 13/16" wide is not a thickness dimension. Do you mean
> thickness? I can't see the detail in the picture, but I'd be hesitant to
> mill off an extra 1/16" and find I really need it for some reason. It is
> tough adding it back on.
>
> Does anything get attached to it? Any slots routed in it that could
> possibly make 3/4" very thin at the slot?
>
> Ed
>
>
Tom thats probably what the lumberyard is selling as 3/4 stock surfaced .
Used to be if you bought 3/4" stock rough sawn it was always cut 1/8"
heavy [7/8"] so that it would clean up a full 3/4". Seems now the deal is
if you buy 3/4" stock surfaced, instead if a full 3/4" you get 13/16". In
effect it allows the dealer to start with thinner rough stock and thus makes
a little more cash for surfaced stock and rook you out of 1/16"of material.
If you question the dealer then the excuse will probably be that it is a
"shrinkage allowance", the truth is they are advertizing 3/4" stock and
selling something less, which to me at least should be illegal.
In short do it right, mill it to 3/4"thats my suggestion.....mjh
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"Tom Wojeck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm building the queen anne table available from plansnow (Woodsmith #43)
> and the directions call for aprons to be 13/16" wide. Is this a common
> thickness? Would it be better to plane the stock to 3/4"? Does it
matter?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Wojeck
>
>
Tom Wojeck wrote:
> I'm building the queen anne table available from plansnow (Woodsmith
> #43) and the directions call for aprons to be 13/16" wide. Is this a
> common thickness? Would it be better to plane the stock to 3/4"?
> Does it matter?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Wojeck
I'm confused. 13/16" wide is not a thickness dimension. Do you mean
thickness? I can't see the detail in the picture, but I'd be hesitant to
mill off an extra 1/16" and find I really need it for some reason. It is
tough adding it back on.
Does anything get attached to it? Any slots routed in it that could
possibly make 3/4" very thin at the slot?
Ed
"Tom Wojeck" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I'm building the queen anne table available from plansnow (Woodsmith
> #43) and the directions call for aprons to be 13/16" wide. Is this a
> common thickness? Would it be better to plane the stock to 3/4"?
> Does it matter?
Woodsmith often tends to "simplfy" things, often at the expense of
clarity. In this case, I think they're simplifying by letting you
use stock as it would typically come from a dealer, rather than
making you plane it (as Mike Hide states, dealers typically sell
4/4 rough lumber planed to 13/16 when it's sold surfaced, the idea
notionally being that the end user can plane/sand the extra 16th
off to remove any handling marks).
Since 3/4 is the "normal" dimension to design around, it would have
been good of Woodsmith to at least mention what they were doing,
and thus avoid the confusion you experienced. Certainly, if you
have 3/4 stock on hand you could use that. You may need to adjust
dimensions elsewhere in that case, altho odds are the difference
will be 1/32nd, which probably isn't going to be important.
John
In article <Hp2Qb.106283$nt4.390298@attbi_s51>, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Tom thats probably what the lumberyard is selling as 3/4 stock surfaced .
>
>Used to be if you bought 3/4" stock rough sawn it was always cut 1/8"
>heavy [7/8"] so that it would clean up a full 3/4". Seems now the deal is
>if you buy 3/4" stock surfaced, instead if a full 3/4" you get 13/16". In
>effect it allows the dealer to start with thinner rough stock and thus makes
>a little more cash for surfaced stock and rook you out of 1/16"of material.
>If you question the dealer then the excuse will probably be that it is a
>"shrinkage allowance", the truth is they are advertizing 3/4" stock and
>selling something less, which to me at least should be illegal.
Uhhhh, excuse me a second... 13/16 is *more* than 3/4. (3/4 = 12/16)
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
Tom Wojeck wrote:
> I'm building the queen anne table available from plansnow (Woodsmith #43)
> and the directions call for aprons to be 13/16" wide. Is this a common
> thickness? Would it be better to plane the stock to 3/4"? Does it matter?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Wojeck
>
>
Made one of those a while back (some details on my site). I made
several changes...don't recall if that was one. Here is one thing to
consider.
On the sides, the apron sets back from the leg by about 1/16". In the
front, the apron is flush so as not to mess up the drawer. This detail
gives the finished table a nice, traditional look. Too much or too
little would (IMHO) have a big impact on the end product. Changing the
thickness of the apron may require you to adjust other "things" to get
the end result you're looking for.
--
Larry G. Laminger
http://woodworks.laminger.com
Hey now is not the time for logic. !!! :) what I really ment was advertised
4 quarter stock is being sold as surfaced 13/16".
I just checked my handy rule and by God you are right of course....mjh
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <Hp2Qb.106283$nt4.390298@attbi_s51>, "Mike Hide"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >Tom thats probably what the lumberyard is selling as 3/4 stock surfaced .
> >
> >Used to be if you bought 3/4" stock rough sawn it was always cut 1/8"
> >heavy [7/8"] so that it would clean up a full 3/4". Seems now the deal
is
> >if you buy 3/4" stock surfaced, instead if a full 3/4" you get 13/16".
In
> >effect it allows the dealer to start with thinner rough stock and thus
makes
> >a little more cash for surfaced stock and rook you out of 1/16"of
material.
> >If you question the dealer then the excuse will probably be that it is a
> >"shrinkage allowance", the truth is they are advertizing 3/4" stock and
> >selling something less, which to me at least should be illegal.
>
> Uhhhh, excuse me a second... 13/16 is *more* than 3/4. (3/4 = 12/16)
>
> --
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for
Miss America?