I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly nightstand,
and need to determine how I will finish it. The large pieces are not yet
assembled, so that should make finishing easier. I definately don't want
to stain the cherry, and instead prefer to let it age naturally. What
finish do you recommend that is simple, unobtrusive, and that won't
interfere with the natural color change process. I've used clear shellac
on other (non-cherry) pieces before, but don't know how that would look in
this situation. Whatever suggestions I get, I'll end up making a test
board first. I'm just looking for a place to start.
The finish should be simple, because based on my past experience I have a
tendency to spend far far to long on finishing out of some crazy desire to
have things perfect.
Thanks
Chad
"Chad Bender" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The finish should be simple, because based on my past experience I have a
> tendency to spend far far to long on finishing out of some crazy desire to
> have things perfect.
I don't consider this a bad trait. Usually by the time I've gotten to
finishing the project, I'm so far behind my self-appointed schedule that I
rush the finish and do a mediocre job.
Dan
"Chad Bender" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly nightstand,
> and need to determine how I will finish it.
Waterlox.
SH - Waterlox posterchild
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 02:31:45 GMT, "mark" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> TWS
>>>> http://tomstudwell.com/allprojects.htm
>>>
>>>Tom, what the hell is that thing in your mouth? It looks like a regulator
>>>or a snorkel.
>>>
>> <g> that 'thing' is called a 'Resp-O-Rator'. It may look weird but it
>> is actually a very good dust filter that works much better than a dust
>> mask, especially if you have a beard and glasses. Dust doesn't seep
>> around it and my glasses don't fog up.
>>
>> The filter cartridges are located behind your head so last longer
>> since they are further away from the heavy dust. Like I said, looks
>> weird but sure works well.
>
>That's why I thought it was cool -- I also have the beard problem. I thought
>about one of those full face masks with the belt-battery air supply, but
>they're pretty steep. How do you keep your nose closed?
>
There is a clip, similar a swimmer's nose clip, that keeps the dust
out.
TWS
http://tomstudwell.com/allprojects.htm
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I definately don't want
> to stain the cherry, and instead prefer to let it age naturally. What
> finish do you recommend that is simple, unobtrusive, and that won't
> interfere with the natural color change process.
>
I like orange shellac rather than clear. It "warms up" the wood better.
Try some finishes (blond and orange shellac, Watco, tung oil, etc. on
some scraps from the project and pick the one you like.
--
There ARE no Iraqi WMDs!
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:02:21 -0500, Chad Bender
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly nightstand,
>and need to determine how I will finish it. The large pieces are not yet
>assembled, so that should make finishing easier. I definately don't want
>to stain the cherry, and instead prefer to let it age naturally. What
>finish do you recommend that is simple, unobtrusive, and that won't
>interfere with the natural color change process. I've used clear shellac
>on other (non-cherry) pieces before, but don't know how that would look in
>this situation. Whatever suggestions I get, I'll end up making a test
>board first. I'm just looking for a place to start.
>
>The finish should be simple, because based on my past experience I have a
>tendency to spend far far to long on finishing out of some crazy desire to
>have things perfect.
Waterlox Original in Satin. www.waterlox.com
It makes cherry GLOW!
--
"Given the low level of competence among politicians,
every American should become a Libertarian."
-- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:02:21 -0500, Chad Bender
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly nightstand,
>and need to determine how I will finish it. The large pieces are not yet
>assembled, so that should make finishing easier. I definately don't want
>to stain the cherry, and instead prefer to let it age naturally. What
>finish do you recommend that is simple, unobtrusive, and that won't
>interfere with the natural color change process. I've used clear shellac
>on other (non-cherry) pieces before, but don't know how that would look in
>this situation. Whatever suggestions I get, I'll end up making a test
>board first. I'm just looking for a place to start.
>
>The finish should be simple, because based on my past experience I have a
>tendency to spend far far to long on finishing out of some crazy desire to
>have things perfect.
>
>Thanks
>Chad
Chad,
if you do not need the protection of a sealed surface I would just go
with oil - either Danish or pure Tung. You can't mess these up and,
to maintain, you simply rub in some more. A nightstand doesn't have
to stand the same wear and tear of a kitchen table for example so an
oil finish with perhaps a wax rub out would allow the beauty of the
wood to come through with an easy to maintain finish.
The beauty of the piece will be a function of how much work you put
into rubbing in the oil and sanding/polishing after the oil hardens.
This is my favorite way to finish cherry.
You can check out some of my pieces on my website for examples.
TWS
http://tomstudwell.com/allprojects.htm
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 01:05:09 GMT, "mark" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> TWS
>> http://tomstudwell.com/allprojects.htm
>
>Tom, what the hell is that thing in your mouth? It looks like a regulator
>or a snorkel.
>
<g> that 'thing' is called a 'Resp-O-Rator'. It may look weird but it
is actually a very good dust filter that works much better than a dust
mask, especially if you have a beard and glasses. Dust doesn't seep
around it and my glasses don't fog up.
The filter cartridges are located behind your head so last longer
since they are further away from the heavy dust. Like I said, looks
weird but sure works well.
TWS
http://tomstudwell.com/allprojects.htm
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:02:21 -0500, Chad Bender
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly nightstand,
>and need to determine how I will finish it. The large pieces are not yet
>assembled, so that should make finishing easier. I definately don't want
>to stain the cherry, and instead prefer to let it age naturally. What
>finish do you recommend that is simple, unobtrusive, and that won't
>interfere with the natural color change process. I've used clear shellac
>on other (non-cherry) pieces before, but don't know how that would look in
>this situation. Whatever suggestions I get, I'll end up making a test
>board first. I'm just looking for a place to start.
>
>The finish should be simple, because based on my past experience I have a
>tendency to spend far far to long on finishing out of some crazy desire to
>have things perfect.
>
>Thanks
>Chad
For a small enough project (nightstand would qualify), I have had good
luck with Behlen's Polymerized Tung Oil Varnish from Woodworker's supply.
For large projects (like the entertainment center I'm building), I'm using
danish oil followed by Watco clear wiping poly.
"Chad Bender" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly nightstand,
> and need to determine how I will finish it. The large pieces are not yet
> assembled, so that should make finishing easier. I definately don't want
> to stain the cherry, and instead prefer to let it age naturally. What
> finish do you recommend that is simple, unobtrusive, and that won't
> interfere with the natural color change process. I've used clear shellac
> on other (non-cherry) pieces before, but don't know how that would look in
> this situation. Whatever suggestions I get, I'll end up making a test
> board first. I'm just looking for a place to start.
>
> The finish should be simple, because based on my past experience I have a
> tendency to spend far far to long on finishing out of some crazy desire to
> have things perfect.
>
> Thanks
> Chad
I have used Watco clear oil on a couple of cherry stands. It looks quite
nice and leaves the cherry looking like cherry. After all this is why i
chose to use it in the first place. After a couple of applications and wipe
downs, I put a coat of Watco satin wax on. They do however get "thirsty"
every now and then so I re-oil them and apply another coat of wax.
Paul
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly nightstand,
> and need to determine how I will finish it. The large pieces are not yet
> assembled, so that should make finishing easier. I definately don't want
> to stain the cherry, and instead prefer to let it age naturally. What
> finish do you recommend that is simple, unobtrusive, and that won't
> interfere with the natural color change process. I've used clear shellac
> on other (non-cherry) pieces before, but don't know how that would look in
> this situation. Whatever suggestions I get, I'll end up making a test
> board first. I'm just looking for a place to start.
>
> The finish should be simple, because based on my past experience I have a
> tendency to spend far far to long on finishing out of some crazy desire to
> have things perfect.
>
> Thanks
> Chad
>
You can use any finish you want to use. The question you should be
asking yourself is how much protection will the piece need for
reasonable expected daily use. THEN you pick one of the finishes that
fits the protection parameters.
A finish is, first and foremost, to protect the wood. Looking pretty is
a desired secondary requirement.
If it looks pretty but doesn't provide enough protection it won't look
pretty for long.
--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
[email protected]
Chad Bender <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly
> nightstand, and need to determine how I will finish it. The large
> pieces are not yet assembled, so that should make finishing easier. I
> definately don't want to stain the cherry, and instead prefer to let
> it age naturally. What finish do you recommend that is simple,
> unobtrusive, and that won't interfere with the natural color change
> process. I've used clear shellac on other (non-cherry) pieces before,
> but don't know how that would look in this situation. Whatever
> suggestions I get, I'll end up making a test board first. I'm just
> looking for a place to start.
>
> The finish should be simple, because based on my past experience I
> have a tendency to spend far far to long on finishing out of some
> crazy desire to have things perfect.
Any of the varieties of Tried and True oils make excellent choices for
cherry, providing you DON'T want a film finish.
Rubbed out shellac (with wax) on cherry is beautiful, and should provide
for sufficient protection for a nightstand.
And there my experience with finishing cherry ends...
Patriarch
>>
>>> TWS
>>> http://tomstudwell.com/allprojects.htm
>>
>>Tom, what the hell is that thing in your mouth? It looks like a regulator
>>or a snorkel.
>>
> <g> that 'thing' is called a 'Resp-O-Rator'. It may look weird but it
> is actually a very good dust filter that works much better than a dust
> mask, especially if you have a beard and glasses. Dust doesn't seep
> around it and my glasses don't fog up.
>
> The filter cartridges are located behind your head so last longer
> since they are further away from the heavy dust. Like I said, looks
> weird but sure works well.
That's why I thought it was cool -- I also have the beard problem. I thought
about one of those full face masks with the belt-battery air supply, but
they're pretty steep. How do you keep your nose closed?
In article
<[email protected]>,
Chad Bender <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly nightstand,
> and need to determine how I will finish it.
Ammonia fume then oil'n'varnish'n'naptha. Short, sweet, a little mad
scientist mixed in for good measure and beeeeyoutiful.
--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____
"To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring."
-- Ann Hayman Zwinger
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:57:18 -0500, TWS wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:02:21 -0500, Chad Bender
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
<snip>
> if you do not need the protection of a sealed surface I would just go
> with oil - either Danish or pure Tung. You can't mess these up and, to
> maintain, you simply rub in some more. A nightstand doesn't have to
> stand the same wear and tear of a kitchen table for example so an oil
> finish with perhaps a wax rub out would allow the beauty of the wood to
> come through with an easy to maintain finish.
>
>
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try that on some scrap and see how I like
it. I've actually not used oil on anything before - this is the first
piece I've built where a protective finish is not as high of a priority as
a good looking one.
Chad
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:55:37 -0500, Chad Bender
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:57:18 -0500, TWS wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:02:21 -0500, Chad Bender
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
><snip>
>
>> if you do not need the protection of a sealed surface I would just go
>> with oil - either Danish or pure Tung. You can't mess these up and, to
>> maintain, you simply rub in some more. A nightstand doesn't have to
>> stand the same wear and tear of a kitchen table for example so an oil
>> finish with perhaps a wax rub out would allow the beauty of the wood to
>> come through with an easy to maintain finish.
>>
>>
>Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try that on some scrap and see how I like
>it. I've actually not used oil on anything before - this is the first
>piece I've built where a protective finish is not as high of a priority as
>a good looking one.
>
>Chad
Chad,
just be sure to follow the specific instructions with the product. If
it tells you to flood the surface, wait 15 minutes, flood again, wait
30 and then wipe off - it's for a good reason - oil penetrates to
bring out the natural beauty of the wood. Let the product penetrate
at the right pace. Let it harden according to recommendations, sand
with fine grit sandpaper, pads, or steel wool and repeat as often as
necessary. Other than that it's pretty simple.
Keep doing this until the wood looks the way you want or it doesn't
absorb oil any more. I much prefer the feel of wood done this way
than any plastic coated piece...
TWS
http://tomstudwell.com/allprojects.htm
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 21:49:17 -0800, Fly-by-Night CC
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>In article
><[email protected]>,
> Chad Bender <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've just about finished my first project in Cherry, a Stickly nightstand,
>> and need to determine how I will finish it.
>
>Ammonia fume then oil'n'varnish'n'naptha. Short, sweet, a little mad
>scientist mixed in for good measure and beeeeyoutiful.
Heh heh heh. I love it when ya talk dirty, Owie. ;)
I believe he said "natural", not "aged", though. Fuming
would darken that puppy in a heartbeat. (But at least it
wouldn't be RBS, wot?)
Some folks are worried about -= PROTECTION =- for some reason.
I did an oak dining set in Watco, did NOT fill the pores, and
it looked like new for years...with daily use.
I Watcoed Mumsy's front door (West-facing, SoCal sun daily)
every 6 months (half an hour job) for several years and it
held up well. The porch was shielded from rain, but no
special UV treatment was needed. I redid the door when I
noticed it fading a bit. She couldn't tell the difference
until I was done.
There were weathered oak towel racks and hooks in the bathroom
when I moved into this house. I cleaned one, rubbed a couple
coats of Waterlox on it, scuffed it with maroon scotchbrite,
and waxed it with Johnson's paste wax. I hang my towel on it
daily in that wet environment and it still looks like new.
I simply don't understand this fanatical fear or need for
-= PROTECTION =- that some folks have. Maybe it's just a
sales buzzword for Minwhacked. Cause fear = sell more junk.
It has been my experience that most finishes will work in
about 90% of applications.
--
"Given the low level of competence among politicians,
every American should become a Libertarian."
-- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003