Dust Collection Question

"THOMAS CLEVELAND" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
> I'm setting up shop fo the first time, and want a Dust Collection set
> up, have used "shop-vac" in the past with fair success, how ever adding
> new equipment, some with 4" ports, am looking at 1-1/2 hp DC as shop
> area has 125 volt service, one of my concerns is staic electricity build
> up in pvc or polyethylene duct hose, the shop area is small about 80
> sqft. and DC will be located out side of shop, thinking of useing a
> trash barrel fitted with one of those cyclone separator lids before the
> DC, any sugestions??
>
I got a 1.5hp with a separator about a year ago and really regret it. The
separator works well, taking 95% of the debris, but causes a significant air
movement drop. The filter clogs with the fines and is difficult to clean.
(there is a brush inside, but it just gets the surface without cleaning the
pleats.)

I am going to replace it all with a cyclone, which doesn't have these
problems. I wish I had done it properly the first time.

But, if you are in upstate NY, I take back everything I just said. Want to
buy a nearly new 1.5hp DC with a separator?

Occasionally there is a little static on the hose, but nothing that requires
fixing.

"Bewildered" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "THOMAS CLEVELAND" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Hi All,
>> I'm setting up shop fo the first time, and want a Dust Collection set
>> up, <snip>, any sugestions??
>>


> I got a 1.5hp with a separator about a year ago and really regret it. The
> separator works well, taking 95% of the debris, but causes a significant
> air movement drop. The filter clogs with the fines and is difficult to
> clean. (there is a brush inside, but it just gets the surface without
> cleaning the pleats.)
>
<snip>

If this is any help for you, Bewildered, I saw a 'shop suggestion' in a
recent Shop Notes magazine for helping to clean your cartridge filter after
using the attached brush. Place a vibrating sander, without the abrasive
paper and with and additional pad to protect the sander's pad, on top of the
cartridge at serveral locations to help to shake Also, hout the fines.
Worth a try. Having read a good many posts on various sites about
separators it has been posted more than once that the separator isn't
specifically to stop the majority of the sawdust from reaching the bag. In
fact, if the DC is working properly the separator will be nearly purged of
sawdust leaving only large pieces or heavier bunches of shavings. My cheap
Harbor Freight does just this and I thought it defective until otherwise
advised. Post around or search BT3central.com forums and others a possible
correction of your DC's poor flow. Also worth a try.

Bigger is better!

I had a 1 1/2 HP that was satisfactory for the table saw, router, and clean
up.
For the old 12 1/2" planer, jointer, bandsaw, radial arm saw and new
16" planer it was inadequate. I got the Jet and it comes wired for 110.
Can be changed to 220.
It was worth the $$.

Jim

"THOMAS CLEVELAND" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
> I'm setting up shop fo the first time, and want a Dust Collection set
> up, have used "shop-vac" in the past with fair success, how ever adding
> new equipment, some with 4" ports, am looking at 1-1/2 hp DC as shop
> area has 125 volt service, one of my concerns is staic electricity build
> up in pvc or polyethylene duct hose, the shop area is small about 80
> sqft. and DC will be located out side of shop, thinking of useing a
> trash barrel fitted with one of those cyclone separator lids before the
> DC, any sugestions??
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas Cleveland
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

"Woodhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Bigger is better!
>
> I had a 1 1/2 HP that was satisfactory for the table saw, router, and
> clean up.
> For the old 12 1/2" planer, jointer, bandsaw, radial arm saw and new
> 16" planer it was inadequate. I got the Jet and it comes wired for 110.
> Can be changed to 220.
> It was worth the $$.


Perhaps it was the filter that limited your 1.5 hp collector but Mine is 1.5
hp/1100 cfm and it swallows my BS during resaw operations, and my 15" planer
with nothing escaping.

"THOMAS CLEVELAND" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
> I'm setting up shop fo the first time, and want a Dust Collection set
> up, have used "shop-vac" in the past with fair success, how ever adding
> new equipment, some with 4" ports, am looking at 1-1/2 hp DC as shop
> area has 125 volt service, one of my concerns is staic electricity build
> up in pvc or polyethylene duct hose, the shop area is small about 80
> sqft. and DC will be located out side of shop, thinking of useing a
> trash barrel fitted with one of those cyclone separator lids before the
> DC, any sugestions??
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas Cleveland
>

Hi Thomas, I for many years did with out dust collection except for the shop
vac attached to the router table. But then I have added equipment that
required a dust collector so that I could breath.

Anyway I went with the Jet 1100 and canister filter. I have no fixed ducts
at all. I use 2, 10 foot 4" clear flex hoses attached to make a long 20'
hose. Because my shop is a bit larger than yours, about 300 sq feet I keep
my 10 stationary machines on mobile bases and move them when I want to use
them. The portable hose works well with all the movement that I have going
on.

I am not saying this is the best set up however it is another avenue to
consider. It is very economical and flexable.

The clear flex hose has a wire reinforcement and is self grounding through
the run. I simply attached a bare end of each hose wire to the next hose
wire and finally grounded to the collector.