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"Wade Lippman"

26/10/2003 5:15 AM

I made a cabinet way too fast; help me make it look good.

1) I cut my rabbets a bit too small, so I sanded the the boards; way too
much. When went to assemble the cabinet, it fell apart and glue went
everywhere. I cleaned it up the best I could and tried again. This time I
did a little better. But, the stain looked lousy. I sanded like crazy, and
re stained. Not too bad. Got every thing except a bit in the corners. I
tried with a profile sander, but couldn't get enough off to help.
Supposedly you you can put a tinted varnish on to hid it. Var golden oak
stain and polyurethane on red oak. It is really not too bad unless some
one shines a flashlight into the corners, but it bothers me. How do i go
about it?
My wife can't see the problem, but it bugs me.

2) Bigger problem is that the box is not square and leans a 1/2" over 30".
I figure that means the corners are 89degrees rather than 90degrees.
Presumably I can make the panel doors fit by making all the miter cuts at
89degrees. Will that work, at least to fit the doors properly?

I also figure I can make the mistake less noticable by putting some 1/4"
felt pads under one side. That should make the the vertical lines a bit
better, but hurt the horizontal lines; hopefully neither will be off by
enough to matter. (As it is, my wife thinks it looks perfect. I did also
until I tried it tight to the wall and saw there was a 1/2" gap at the top.)

Any advice on these (other than not being is such a hurry next time) would
be appreciated.


This topic has 9 replies

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"Sammy"

in reply to "Wade Lippman" on 26/10/2003 5:15 AM

26/10/2003 5:58 PM

Agreed. Newbie though I am, I say don't try to fix a mistake beyond a
reasonable point. Use it in the shop if you can, and make a new one the
right way.

Remember the mistakes you made on that one, and try not to do it again.
Keeping it in your shop will serve as a reminder ;-)


DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "Wade Lippman" on 26/10/2003 5:15 AM

26/10/2003 12:00 AM

This may help...

<http://www.livinghome.com/news/gardens/178-1.html>

djb

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Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Wade Lippman" on 26/10/2003 5:15 AM

27/10/2003 12:02 AM

Dennis Slabaugh, Hobbyist Woodworker wrote:

> a look at a book I contributed to called " The Woodworker's Problem
> Solver". It was a Rodale book but now under the control of Reader's Digest

That's funny. I have a bunch of Rodale "problem solver" books, but never
knew they did wood stuff. I thought they were mostly a gardening
publisher.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Wade Lippman" on 26/10/2003 5:15 AM

26/10/2003 1:30 AM

Wade Lippman wrote:

> Any advice on these (other than not being is such a hurry next time) would
> be appreciated.

I have a great book. Let me go find it...

"Fixing and Avoiding Woodworking Mistakes" by Sandor Nagyszalanczy.
(Nagyszalanczy??? WTF??? I thought Wawrzycka was bad, but that one takes
the cake.)

Anyway, I highly recommend it as a way to get inspiration for fixing your
f-up now, and for seeing the sort of stupid things you're likely to do, and
avoid them in the future.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to "Wade Lippman" on 26/10/2003 5:15 AM

26/10/2003 9:07 AM

Put the cabinet in a prominent place in your shop. Somewhere where you can
see it at all times, maybe trip over it once and awhile. Buy new stock and
do the job over again.

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 1) I cut my rabbets a bit too small, so I sanded the the boards; way too
> much. When went to assemble the cabinet, it fell apart and glue went
> everywhere. I cleaned it up the best I could and tried again. This time
I
> did a little better. But, the stain looked lousy. I sanded like crazy,
and
> re stained. Not too bad. Got every thing except a bit in the corners. I
> tried with a profile sander, but couldn't get enough off to help.
> Supposedly you you can put a tinted varnish on to hid it. Var golden oak
> stain and polyurethane on red oak. It is really not too bad unless some
> one shines a flashlight into the corners, but it bothers me. How do i go
> about it?
> My wife can't see the problem, but it bugs me.
>
> 2) Bigger problem is that the box is not square and leans a 1/2" over 30".
> I figure that means the corners are 89degrees rather than 90degrees.
> Presumably I can make the panel doors fit by making all the miter cuts at
> 89degrees. Will that work, at least to fit the doors properly?
>
> I also figure I can make the mistake less noticable by putting some 1/4"
> felt pads under one side. That should make the the vertical lines a bit
> better, but hurt the horizontal lines; hopefully neither will be off by
> enough to matter. (As it is, my wife thinks it looks perfect. I did also
> until I tried it tight to the wall and saw there was a 1/2" gap at the
top.)
>
> Any advice on these (other than not being is such a hurry next time) would
> be appreciated.
>
>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Wade Lippman" on 26/10/2003 5:15 AM

27/10/2003 5:22 PM

B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:

>>That's funny. I have a bunch of Rodale "problem solver" books, but never
>>knew they did wood stuff. I thought they were mostly a gardening
>>publisher.
>
> I never new they did gardening, I thought they published magazines
> about bicycling and organic living. <G>

Alllll righty then. I guess they're just another Corporation Corporation.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

DS

"Dennis Slabaugh, Hobbyist Woodworker"

in reply to "Wade Lippman" on 26/10/2003 5:15 AM

26/10/2003 12:01 PM

Wade, For a good book reference on problem solving you might want to take a
look at a book I contributed to called " The Woodworker's Problem Solver".
It was a Rodale book but now under the control of Reader's Digest Books
since they bought Rodale's woodworking publishing division. Good luck on the
next project.

http://www.book-reviews.info/Woodworking_Book_Reviews/076210225X.shtml


--
Dennis Slabaugh, Hobbyist Woodworker
www.woodworkinghhobby.com




"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 1) I cut my rabbets a bit too small, so I sanded the the boards; way too
> much. When went to assemble the cabinet, it fell apart and glue went
> everywhere. I cleaned it up the best I could and tried again. This time
I
> did a little better. But, the stain looked lousy. I sanded like crazy,
and
> re stained. Not too bad. Got every thing except a bit in the corners. I
> tried with a profile sander, but couldn't get enough off to help.
> Supposedly you you can put a tinted varnish on to hid it. Var golden oak
> stain and polyurethane on red oak. It is really not too bad unless some
> one shines a flashlight into the corners, but it bothers me. How do i go
> about it?
> My wife can't see the problem, but it bugs me.
>
> 2) Bigger problem is that the box is not square and leans a 1/2" over 30".
> I figure that means the corners are 89degrees rather than 90degrees.
> Presumably I can make the panel doors fit by making all the miter cuts at
> 89degrees. Will that work, at least to fit the doors properly?
>
> I also figure I can make the mistake less noticable by putting some 1/4"
> felt pads under one side. That should make the the vertical lines a bit
> better, but hurt the horizontal lines; hopefully neither will be off by
> enough to matter. (As it is, my wife thinks it looks perfect. I did also
> until I tried it tight to the wall and saw there was a 1/2" gap at the
top.)
>
> Any advice on these (other than not being is such a hurry next time) would
> be appreciated.
>
>

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Wade Lippman" on 26/10/2003 5:15 AM

27/10/2003 11:44 AM

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:02:30 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:


>That's funny. I have a bunch of Rodale "problem solver" books, but never
>knew they did wood stuff. I thought they were mostly a gardening
>publisher.


I never new they did gardening, I thought they published magazines
about bicycling and organic living. <G>

Barry

ss

in reply to "Wade Lippman" on 26/10/2003 5:15 AM

26/10/2003 4:33 PM

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:15:03 GMT, "Wade Lippman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>1) I cut my rabbets a bit too small, so I sanded the the boards; way too
>much. When went to assemble the cabinet, it fell apart and glue went
>everywhere. I cleaned it up the best I could and tried again. This time I
>did a little better. But, the stain looked lousy. I sanded like crazy, and
>re stained. Not too bad. Got every thing except a bit in the corners. I
>tried with a profile sander, but couldn't get enough off to help.
>Supposedly you you can put a tinted varnish on to hid it. Var golden oak
>stain and polyurethane on red oak. It is really not too bad unless some
>one shines a flashlight into the corners, but it bothers me. How do i go
>about it?
>My wife can't see the problem, but it bugs me.
>
>2) Bigger problem is that the box is not square and leans a 1/2" over 30".
>I figure that means the corners are 89degrees rather than 90degrees.
>Presumably I can make the panel doors fit by making all the miter cuts at
>89degrees. Will that work, at least to fit the doors properly?
>
>I also figure I can make the mistake less noticable by putting some 1/4"
>felt pads under one side. That should make the the vertical lines a bit
>better, but hurt the horizontal lines; hopefully neither will be off by
>enough to matter. (As it is, my wife thinks it looks perfect. I did also
>until I tried it tight to the wall and saw there was a 1/2" gap at the top.)
>
>Any advice on these (other than not being is such a hurry next time) would
>be appreciated.
>

well now sounds like you have the perfect SHOP cabinet!! now that
you"ve got the practice cabinet done all you need to do it SLOW DOWN
and do the real cabinet. don"t feel poorly i have a whole shop full of
PRACTICE cabinets. that way i dont have to explain about needing extra
material for the shop to SWMBO. works for me!!!!!!!!!!
skeez


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