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"Norm Dresner"

23/02/2009 6:13 PM

Putting off buying a router raiser for the table? A gloat!

I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as a retiree
on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.

This past weekend, www.woodcraft.com sent me an e-mail advertising the Freud
FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies last. It
didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. The router has a
built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least on two
tries, works flawlessly and easily. It comes with a single wrench -- and a
shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. Just basic stuff, but
I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge use and intend to
permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've even removed the handles to
make a little more room underneath.

I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. (I have
absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really happy
customer).

Norm


This topic has 10 replies

TD

TD Driver

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

24/02/2009 8:15 AM

Got mine. Never thought about ordering this online.

CC wrote:
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:06:59 -0600, TD Driver <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Grrr. I'm on just about every damn mail list except this one. I just
>>> finished my new router table for my PC, but could use a dedicated router
>>> for the table. this would have been perfect, 'cept my local store is
>>> sold out.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>>>> I bought this same router a few months ago in a kit w\fixed and plunge
>>>> base and included aluminum table insert plate. Some others have
>>>> complained about this router's plunge base being not so smooth. I have
>>>> only used it with the fixed base so far. I like the soft start. I hate
>>>> the switch. I have to re-learn how to shut it off every time and that
>>>> can be a bit dangerous when you are done and trying to set it down and
>>>> have to fumble to shut it off. Once I remember how to shut it off it
>>>> is easy but not very intuitive. Seems like it will likely break easy
>>>> also which with my normal fast and rough handling means it will break
>>>> for sure.
>>>>
>>>> I will likely mount this in a table permanently and add an on-off
>>>> switch on the table. Yes it's only 2 1/4 hp not 3 but it has variable
>>>> speed and I have a shaper for the bigger stuff and with the included
>>>> plate and above table adjust I still think I got a great deal.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 10:13 am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as
>>>>> a retiree
>>>>> on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.
>>>>>
>>>>> This past weekend,www.woodcraft.comsent me an e-mail advertising
>>>>> the Freud
>>>>> FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies
>>>>> last. It
>>>>> didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. The
>>>>> router has a
>>>>> built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least
>>>>> on two
>>>>> tries, works flawlessly and easily. It comes with a single wrench
>>>>> -- and a
>>>>> shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. Just basic
>>>>> stuff, but
>>>>> I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge use and
>>>>> intend to
>>>>> permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've even removed the
>>>>> handles to
>>>>> make a little more room underneath.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. (I have
>>>>> absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really
>>>>> happy
>>>>> customer).
>>>>>
>>>>> Norm
>>>>
>>
>> Shipping is free and they were available online 3 hours ago - my wife
>> even said OK to buying ;-)
>>
>> John
>
> They are still available on line at 10:30 PM and I haven't told wife yet
> LOL
> CC

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

24/02/2009 9:39 AM

Well now that I know the guy was a fellow woodworker I feel really bad
about our affair.


On Feb 23, 4:15=A0pm, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as a
> > retiree
> > on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.
>
> > This past weekend,www.woodcraft.comsent me an e-mail advertising the
> > Freud
> > FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies last. =
=A0It
> > didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. =A0The route=
r has
> > a
> > built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least on =
two
> > tries, works flawlessly and easily. =A0It comes with a single wrench --=
and
> > a
> > shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. =A0Just basic stuff=
, but
> > I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge use and intend =
to
> > permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've even removed the handle=
s
> > to
> > make a little more room underneath.
>
> > I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. =A0(I have
> > absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really happ=
y
> > customer).
>
> I was lucky enough to find a brand new one on Craigslist. The guy bought =
it
> new with expectations to use but he discovered the wife cheating on him,
> filed for divorce and sold much of his toys. Yes, I had to hear the ENTIR=
E
> wife story when I picked it up but for $75 , it was worth it.- Hide quote=
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

23/02/2009 10:42 AM

I bought this same router a few months ago in a kit w\fixed and plunge
base and included aluminum table insert plate. Some others have
complained about this router's plunge base being not so smooth. I have
only used it with the fixed base so far. I like the soft start. I hate
the switch. I have to re-learn how to shut it off every time and that
can be a bit dangerous when you are done and trying to set it down and
have to fumble to shut it off. Once I remember how to shut it off it
is easy but not very intuitive. Seems like it will likely break easy
also which with my normal fast and rough handling means it will break
for sure.

I will likely mount this in a table permanently and add an on-off
switch on the table. Yes it's only 2 1/4 hp not 3 but it has variable
speed and I have a shaper for the bigger stuff and with the included
plate and above table adjust I still think I got a great deal.

On Feb 23, 10:13=A0am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as a reti=
ree
> on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.
>
> This past weekend,www.woodcraft.comsent me an e-mail advertising the Freu=
d
> FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies last. =A0I=
t
> didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. =A0The router =
has a
> built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least on tw=
o
> tries, works flawlessly and easily. =A0It comes with a single wrench -- a=
nd a
> shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. =A0Just basic stuff, =
but
> I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge use and intend to
> permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've even removed the handles =
to
> make a little more room underneath.
>
> I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. =A0(I have
> absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really happy
> customer).
>
> =A0 =A0 Norm

SM

"SBH"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

23/02/2009 7:15 PM


"Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as a
> retiree
> on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.
>
> This past weekend, www.woodcraft.com sent me an e-mail advertising the
> Freud
> FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies last. It
> didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. The router has
> a
> built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least on two
> tries, works flawlessly and easily. It comes with a single wrench -- and
> a
> shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. Just basic stuff, but
> I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge use and intend to
> permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've even removed the handles
> to
> make a little more room underneath.
>
> I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. (I have
> absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really happy
> customer).

I was lucky enough to find a brand new one on Craigslist. The guy bought it
new with expectations to use but he discovered the wife cheating on him,
filed for divorce and sold much of his toys. Yes, I had to hear the ENTIRE
wife story when I picked it up but for $75 , it was worth it.

Cl

"CC"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

24/02/2009 3:29 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:06:59 -0600, TD Driver <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Grrr. I'm on just about every damn mail list except this one. I
>>just
>>finished my new router table for my PC, but could use a dedicated
>>router
>>for the table. this would have been perfect, 'cept my local store
>>is
>>sold out.
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>>> I bought this same router a few months ago in a kit w\fixed and
>>> plunge
>>> base and included aluminum table insert plate. Some others have
>>> complained about this router's plunge base being not so smooth. I
>>> have
>>> only used it with the fixed base so far. I like the soft start. I
>>> hate
>>> the switch. I have to re-learn how to shut it off every time and
>>> that
>>> can be a bit dangerous when you are done and trying to set it down
>>> and
>>> have to fumble to shut it off. Once I remember how to shut it off
>>> it
>>> is easy but not very intuitive. Seems like it will likely break
>>> easy
>>> also which with my normal fast and rough handling means it will
>>> break
>>> for sure.
>>>
>>> I will likely mount this in a table permanently and add an on-off
>>> switch on the table. Yes it's only 2 1/4 hp not 3 but it has
>>> variable
>>> speed and I have a shaper for the bigger stuff and with the
>>> included
>>> plate and above table adjust I still think I got a great deal.
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 10:13 am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but
>>>> as a retiree
>>>> on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price
>>>> range.
>>>>
>>>> This past weekend,www.woodcraft.comsent me an e-mail advertising
>>>> the Freud
>>>> FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies
>>>> last. It
>>>> didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. The
>>>> router has a
>>>> built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at
>>>> least on two
>>>> tries, works flawlessly and easily. It comes with a single
>>>> wrench -- and a
>>>> shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. Just basic
>>>> stuff, but
>>>> I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge use and
>>>> intend to
>>>> permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've even removed the
>>>> handles to
>>>> make a little more room underneath.
>>>>
>>>> I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. (I
>>>> have
>>>> absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a
>>>> really happy
>>>> customer).
>>>>
>>>> Norm
>>>
>
> Shipping is free and they were available online 3 hours ago - my
> wife
> even said OK to buying ;-)
>
> John

They are still available on line at 10:30 PM and I haven't told wife
yet LOL
CC

TD

TD Driver

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

23/02/2009 4:06 PM

Grrr. I'm on just about every damn mail list except this one. I just
finished my new router table for my PC, but could use a dedicated router
for the table. this would have been perfect, 'cept my local store is
sold out.

Larry

SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> I bought this same router a few months ago in a kit w\fixed and plunge
> base and included aluminum table insert plate. Some others have
> complained about this router's plunge base being not so smooth. I have
> only used it with the fixed base so far. I like the soft start. I hate
> the switch. I have to re-learn how to shut it off every time and that
> can be a bit dangerous when you are done and trying to set it down and
> have to fumble to shut it off. Once I remember how to shut it off it
> is easy but not very intuitive. Seems like it will likely break easy
> also which with my normal fast and rough handling means it will break
> for sure.
>
> I will likely mount this in a table permanently and add an on-off
> switch on the table. Yes it's only 2 1/4 hp not 3 but it has variable
> speed and I have a shaper for the bigger stuff and with the included
> plate and above table adjust I still think I got a great deal.
>
> On Feb 23, 10:13 am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as a retiree
>> on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.
>>
>> This past weekend,www.woodcraft.comsent me an e-mail advertising the Freud
>> FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies last. It
>> didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. The router has a
>> built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least on two
>> tries, works flawlessly and easily. It comes with a single wrench -- and a
>> shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. Just basic stuff, but
>> I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge use and intend to
>> permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've even removed the handles to
>> make a little more room underneath.
>>
>> I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. (I have
>> absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really happy
>> customer).
>>
>> Norm
>

SM

"SBH"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

24/02/2009 9:25 PM


"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> SBH wrote:
>> "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as a
>>> retiree
>>> on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.
>>>
>>> This past weekend, www.woodcraft.com sent me an e-mail advertising
>>> the Freud
>>> FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies last.
>>> It didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. The
>>> router has a
>>> built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least
>>> on two tries, works flawlessly and easily. It comes with a single
>>> wrench -- and a
>>> shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. Just basic
>>> stuff, but I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge
>>> use and intend to permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've
>>> even removed the handles to
>>> make a little more room underneath.
>>>
>>> I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. (I have
>>> absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really
>>> happy customer).
>>
>> I was lucky enough to find a brand new one on Craigslist. The guy
>> bought it new with expectations to use but he discovered the wife
>> cheating on him, filed for divorce and sold much of his toys. Yes, I
>> had to hear the ENTIRE wife story when I picked it up but for $75 ,
>> it was worth it.
>
> Did you get the wife's number?

Better, I know which house she lives in because it's a few doors from his.
He had to move out of the house they shared and bought one a few doors down.
I hope he doesn't see me going in.
>
>

n

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

23/02/2009 6:45 PM

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:06:59 -0600, TD Driver <[email protected]> wrote:

>Grrr. I'm on just about every damn mail list except this one. I just
>finished my new router table for my PC, but could use a dedicated router
>for the table. this would have been perfect, 'cept my local store is
>sold out.
>
>Larry
>
>SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>> I bought this same router a few months ago in a kit w\fixed and plunge
>> base and included aluminum table insert plate. Some others have
>> complained about this router's plunge base being not so smooth. I have
>> only used it with the fixed base so far. I like the soft start. I hate
>> the switch. I have to re-learn how to shut it off every time and that
>> can be a bit dangerous when you are done and trying to set it down and
>> have to fumble to shut it off. Once I remember how to shut it off it
>> is easy but not very intuitive. Seems like it will likely break easy
>> also which with my normal fast and rough handling means it will break
>> for sure.
>>
>> I will likely mount this in a table permanently and add an on-off
>> switch on the table. Yes it's only 2 1/4 hp not 3 but it has variable
>> speed and I have a shaper for the bigger stuff and with the included
>> plate and above table adjust I still think I got a great deal.
>>
>> On Feb 23, 10:13 am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as a retiree
>>> on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.
>>>
>>> This past weekend,www.woodcraft.comsent me an e-mail advertising the Freud
>>> FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies last. It
>>> didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. The router has a
>>> built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least on two
>>> tries, works flawlessly and easily. It comes with a single wrench -- and a
>>> shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. Just basic stuff, but
>>> I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge use and intend to
>>> permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've even removed the handles to
>>> make a little more room underneath.
>>>
>>> I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. (I have
>>> absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really happy
>>> customer).
>>>
>>> Norm
>>

Shipping is free and they were available online 3 hours ago - my wife
even said OK to buying ;-)

John

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

24/02/2009 6:08 PM

SBH wrote:
> "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as a
>> retiree
>> on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.
>>
>> This past weekend, www.woodcraft.com sent me an e-mail advertising
>> the Freud
>> FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies last.
>> It didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. The
>> router has a
>> built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least
>> on two tries, works flawlessly and easily. It comes with a single
>> wrench -- and a
>> shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. Just basic
>> stuff, but I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge
>> use and intend to permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've
>> even removed the handles to
>> make a little more room underneath.
>>
>> I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. (I have
>> absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really
>> happy customer).
>
> I was lucky enough to find a brand new one on Craigslist. The guy
> bought it new with expectations to use but he discovered the wife
> cheating on him, filed for divorce and sold much of his toys. Yes, I
> had to hear the ENTIRE wife story when I picked it up but for $75 ,
> it was worth it.

Did you get the wife's number?

dw

"d.williams"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 23/02/2009 6:13 PM

23/02/2009 4:47 PM

TD - It's still listed on Woodcraft's website, or did they distribute all
available stock to their retail outlets? Like Sonoma, I picked up the same
kit, have only used it in the fixed base, and except for the fact that the
switch is a little different, it otherwise performs very well. Should be
great in a table, the shaft lock and one handed wrench bit change is very
slick, soft start is nice, and is relatively quiet.



"TD Driver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Grrr. I'm on just about every damn mail list except this one. I just
> finished my new router table for my PC, but could use a dedicated router
> for the table. this would have been perfect, 'cept my local store is sold
> out.
>
> Larry
>
> SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>> I bought this same router a few months ago in a kit w\fixed and plunge
>> base and included aluminum table insert plate. Some others have
>> complained about this router's plunge base being not so smooth. I have
>> only used it with the fixed base so far. I like the soft start. I hate
>> the switch. I have to re-learn how to shut it off every time and that
>> can be a bit dangerous when you are done and trying to set it down and
>> have to fumble to shut it off. Once I remember how to shut it off it
>> is easy but not very intuitive. Seems like it will likely break easy
>> also which with my normal fast and rough handling means it will break
>> for sure.
>>
>> I will likely mount this in a table permanently and add an on-off
>> switch on the table. Yes it's only 2 1/4 hp not 3 but it has variable
>> speed and I have a shaper for the bigger stuff and with the included
>> plate and above table adjust I still think I got a great deal.
>>
>> On Feb 23, 10:13 am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm a woodworker whose techniques rely on the router table, but as a
>>> retiree
>>> on a strict budget, $2-300 for a raiser seemed out of my price range.
>>>
>>> This past weekend,www.woodcraft.comsent me an e-mail advertising the
>>> Freud
>>> FT1700 variable speed 2-1/4HP router for $99 -- while supplies last. It
>>> didn't take much research to realize what a find that was. The router
>>> has a
>>> built-in mechanism for above-table height adjustment that, at least on
>>> two
>>> tries, works flawlessly and easily. It comes with a single wrench --
>>> and a
>>> shaft lock -- and a fixed base and that's about it. Just basic stuff,
>>> but
>>> I've permanently removed my PC from the table to plunge use and intend
>>> to
>>> permanently keep the Freud in the table -- I've even removed the handles
>>> to
>>> make a little more room underneath.
>>>
>>> I'm smiling from ear to ear after using it and I'm in love. (I have
>>> absolutely no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a really happy
>>> customer).
>>>
>>> Norm
>>


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