On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:59:14 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 10/12/2015 3:23 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2015 2:03 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>>>>
>>>> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem.
>>>
>>> Absolutely
>>>
>>> How hard is it to tap a nail into a wall?
>>>
>>> Probably easier with an actual hammer.
>>>
>>> A much bigger problem is locating a stud where
>>>> you want to hang something heavy.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is relatively simple too. Use 4~5 stacked rare earth magnets
>>> wrapped in masking tape, to protect a painted surface, and hover it
>>> closely back and forth along the surface of the wall. The magnets will
>>> almost pull out of your hand and stick to the wall everywhere that there
>>> is a dry wall screw or nail.
>> >
>> You misunderstand. The problem isn't locating a stud, it's wanting to
>> position the heavy whatever-it-is where you'd have to put a nail six
>> inches away from the nearest stud.
>
>I think the person who buys this does not have the notion of a
>structural stud in mind.
>The manufacturer should sell a broom with it to pick up the inevitable
>pieces of glass.
I remember that "tool" being sold on TV. You can still get one at
Hobby Lobby if you look.
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:22:18 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 10/12/2015 2:03 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>>>
>>> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem.
>>
>> Absolutely
>>
>> How hard is it to tap a nail into a wall?
>>
>> Probably easier with an actual hammer.
>
>My thought too. That thing probably works on drywall, but
>your SOL if you have an older house with lath & plaster.
>
>And the nail and hammer are a darn sight cheaper than
>paying $31 (after shipping and handling) for that thing.
>
>One does have to wonder, tho, what inspired Mr Vanzandt
>to suddenly post that link, 3 and a half years after
>John G first posted it.
He probably bought a big remnant lot think he could get rich.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Feb 18, 8:44 am, "John Grossbohlin"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> https://www.instahang.com/
>
> I can see a limited application for that, but as a proper hanging
> solution? Not so much.
> Lee Valley has a whole bunch of solutions far better suited for the
> job at hand.
I love the examples of what can happen if you don't use their push-pin
driver. No large nail or spike holes, why would you use such a large nail.
No holes pounded through the drywall or plaster, who would hit the pin,
nail, spike so hard that the hammer goes through the wall. Only to be solved
with a solution to a problem that should not exist except for the totally
inept and dangerous.
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> I'm wondering where this post from 2012 came from... without any other
> text to put it in context!
>
> With that I searched it out and from the looks of the thread on Google
> groups the whole thing was a joke!
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/rec.woodworking/_zQzLYl9a
> xI
>
> As they say, things on the Internet never go away! LOL
>
I wonder if J. Clarke ever got his blasting license. It sure would make
putting holes in for outlets a hole lot cooler. (<5 seconds to cut every
hole for every outlet and switch in the entire place. Totally worth it!
Just needs a little tiny amount of time* to set up. *Compared to the age
of the Universe.)
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
>
> O.M.G.! I'm heading to Hobby Lobby NOW!
It's probably too late, but be sure to load the 40% coupon on your phone!
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
On 10/12/2015 4:42 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 3:23 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 10/12/2015 2:03 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>>>
>>> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem.
>>
>> Absolutely
>>
>> How hard is it to tap a nail into a wall?
>>
>> Probably easier with an actual hammer.
>>
>> A much bigger problem is locating a stud where
>>> you want to hang something heavy.
>>>
>>
>> That is relatively simple too. Use 4~5 stacked rare earth magnets
>> wrapped in masking tape, to protect a painted surface, and hover it
>> closely back and forth along the surface of the wall. The magnets will
>> almost pull out of your hand and stick to the wall everywhere that there
>> is a dry wall screw or nail.
> >
> You misunderstand. The problem isn't locating a stud, it's wanting to
> position the heavy whatever-it-is where you'd have to put a nail six
> inches away from the nearest stud.
So when you say, "A much bigger problem is locating a stud where
you want to hang something heavy," you actually meant to say a much
bigger problem is having a stud where you want to hang something heavy.
I don't think I misunderstood what you actually said, maybe what you
meant to say. ;~)
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:02:35 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 2/18/2012 7:44 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> https://www.instahang.com/
>
>Totally a "needless" gimmick and a "solution looking for a problem" ...
>and what, NO laser guided level and digital readout?? :)
If you act now, the laser level comes with it, FREE!
Just pay the additional $7.95 s/h fee.
Bottom line: $31 kit worth about, what, six bucks?
>SWMBO would love it, though.
Until she hung that heavy mirror and it came down in the middle of the
night because the nail is less than 3/4" long and doesn't go into the
studs. OOPS!
--
The ultimate result of shielding men from folly
is to fill the world with fools.
-- Herbert Spencer
On 10/12/2015 7:12 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:59:14 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2015 3:23 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 10/12/2015 2:03 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely
>>>>
>>>> How hard is it to tap a nail into a wall?
>>>>
>>>> Probably easier with an actual hammer.
>>>>
>>>> A much bigger problem is locating a stud where
>>>>> you want to hang something heavy.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is relatively simple too. Use 4~5 stacked rare earth magnets
>>>> wrapped in masking tape, to protect a painted surface, and hover it
>>>> closely back and forth along the surface of the wall. The magnets will
>>>> almost pull out of your hand and stick to the wall everywhere that there
>>>> is a dry wall screw or nail.
>>>>
>>> You misunderstand. The problem isn't locating a stud, it's wanting to
>>> position the heavy whatever-it-is where you'd have to put a nail six
>>> inches away from the nearest stud.
>>
>> I think the person who buys this does not have the notion of a
>> structural stud in mind.
>> The manufacturer should sell a broom with it to pick up the inevitable
>> pieces of glass.
>
> I remember that "tool" being sold on TV. You can still get one at
> Hobby Lobby if you look.
>
O.M.G.! I'm heading to Hobby Lobby NOW!
On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> https://www.instahang.com/
>
Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem. How hard is it to
tap a nail into a wall? A much bigger problem is locating a stud where
you want to hang something heavy.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> John Grossbohlin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >https://www.instahang.com/
>
> OWW! MY HAND!
>
> (older home with genuine plaster, not drywall)
Amen. One of these days I'm going to get a blasting license. A little
linear shaped charge would make putting in outlets _so_ much easier.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "EXT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> On Feb 18, 8:44 am, "John Grossbohlin"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> https://www.instahang.com/
> >>
> >> I can see a limited application for that, but as a proper hanging
> >> solution? Not so much.
> >> Lee Valley has a whole bunch of solutions far better suited for the
> >> job at hand.
> >
> > I love the examples of what can happen if you don't use their push-pin
> > driver. No large nail or spike holes, why would you use such a large nail.
> > No holes pounded through the drywall or plaster, who would hit the pin,
> > nail, spike so hard that the hammer goes through the wall. Only to be
> > solved with a solution to a problem that should not exist except for the
> > totally inept and dangerous.
>
> Might be amusing to see a profile of those who purchase this thing... It
> could be that they shouldn't be trusted with real tools and they are at
> least wise enough to self-select into the population that buys this thing.
> ;~)
I can see where it might be handy for an interior decorator or the like,
where it's someone else's wall and an "oops" can involve expense.
In article <[email protected]>,
Puckdropper says...
>
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> >
> > I'm wondering where this post from 2012 came from... without any other
> > text to put it in context!
> >
> > With that I searched it out and from the looks of the thread on Google
> > groups the whole thing was a joke!
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/rec.woodworking/_zQzLYl9a
> > xI
> >
> > As they say, things on the Internet never go away! LOL
> >
>
> I wonder if J. Clarke ever got his blasting license. It sure would make
> putting holes in for outlets a hole lot cooler. (<5 seconds to cut every
> hole for every outlet and switch in the entire place. Totally worth it!
> Just needs a little tiny amount of time* to set up. *Compared to the age
> of the Universe.)
The trick is cutting through the plaster without cutting through the
outside wall.
Hmm--this is something that someone should suggest to that British TV
show that does all the thermite--I can't remember the name of it.
On 10/12/2015 6:16 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>>> wrote:
>>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>>
>> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem. How hard is it to
>> tap a nail into a wall? A much bigger problem is locating a stud
>> where you want to hang something heavy.
>
> Agreed - but people will buy anything...
>
Sometimes you want to hang where there is no stud. Finding a stud is
simple, but going between is more difficult. There are other solutions
though, picture hooks with angled nails have been around at least 60
years that I know of.
On 2/18/2012 7:44 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> https://www.instahang.com/
Totally a "needless" gimmick and a "solution looking for a problem" ...
and what, NO laser guided level and digital readout?? :)
SWMBO would love it, though.
--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
On 2/18/2012 4:16 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:02:35 -0600, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>> SWMBO would love it, though.
>
> Until she hung that heavy mirror and it came down in the middle of the
> night because the nail is less than 3/4" long and doesn't go into the
> studs. OOPS!
Method to that madness ... who would want to forgo another "I told you
so" opportunity to reinforce life's natural order (against a fetching
blonde, you need all the help you can get). ;)
--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
"Puckdropper" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I wonder if J. Clarke ever got his blasting license. It sure would make
>putting holes in for outlets a hole lot cooler. (<5 seconds to cut every
>hole for every outlet and switch in the entire place. Totally worth it!
>Just needs a little tiny amount of time* to set up. *Compared to the age
>of the Universe.)
With shaped charges that should work!
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 10/12/2015 2:03 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>>> wrote:
>>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>>
>> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem.
>
> Absolutely
>
> How hard is it to tap a nail into a wall?
>
> Probably easier with an actual hammer.
My thought too. That thing probably works on drywall, but
your SOL if you have an older house with lath & plaster.
And the nail and hammer are a darn sight cheaper than
paying $31 (after shipping and handling) for that thing.
One does have to wonder, tho, what inspired Mr Vanzandt
to suddenly post that link, 3 and a half years after
John G first posted it.
John
wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> https://www.instahang.com/
On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> https://www.instahang.com/
I'm wondering where this post from 2012 came from... without any other text
to put it in context!
With that I searched it out and from the looks of the thread on Google
groups the whole thing was a joke!
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/rec.woodworking/_zQzLYl9axI
As they say, things on the Internet never go away! LOL
"EXT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Feb 18, 8:44 am, "John Grossbohlin"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>
>> I can see a limited application for that, but as a proper hanging
>> solution? Not so much.
>> Lee Valley has a whole bunch of solutions far better suited for the
>> job at hand.
>
> I love the examples of what can happen if you don't use their push-pin
> driver. No large nail or spike holes, why would you use such a large nail.
> No holes pounded through the drywall or plaster, who would hit the pin,
> nail, spike so hard that the hammer goes through the wall. Only to be
> solved with a solution to a problem that should not exist except for the
> totally inept and dangerous.
Might be amusing to see a profile of those who purchase this thing... It
could be that they shouldn't be trusted with real tools and they are at
least wise enough to self-select into the population that buys this thing.
;~)
John
On Feb 18, 8:44=A0am, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> https://www.instahang.com/
I can see a limited application for that, but as a proper hanging
solution? Not so much.
Lee Valley has a whole bunch of solutions far better suited for the
job at hand.
"Larry W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> John Grossbohlin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>https://www.instahang.com/
>
> OWW! MY HAND!
>
> (older home with genuine plaster, not drywall)
Yup... they forgot to include the free bonus dead blow hammer for those
cases.
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:02:35 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 2/18/2012 7:44 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> https://www.instahang.com/
>SWMBO would love it, though.
Then you better expect one for next Christmas.
In article <[email protected]>,
John Grossbohlin <[email protected]> wrote:
>https://www.instahang.com/
OWW! MY HAND!
(older home with genuine plaster, not drywall)
--
Often wrong, never in doubt.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
On 2/19/12 8:11 AM, Larry W wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> John Grossbohlin<[email protected]> wrote:
>> https://www.instahang.com/
>
> OWW! MY HAND!
>
> (older home with genuine plaster, not drywall)
That was my first thought, knowing what my house is like.....
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 10/12/2015 3:23 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 2:03 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>>> wrote:
>>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>>
>> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem.
>
> Absolutely
>
> How hard is it to tap a nail into a wall?
>
> Probably easier with an actual hammer.
>
> A much bigger problem is locating a stud where
>> you want to hang something heavy.
>>
>
> That is relatively simple too. Use 4~5 stacked rare earth magnets
> wrapped in masking tape, to protect a painted surface, and hover it
> closely back and forth along the surface of the wall. The magnets will
> almost pull out of your hand and stick to the wall everywhere that there
> is a dry wall screw or nail.
>
You misunderstand. The problem isn't locating a stud, it's wanting to
position the heavy whatever-it-is where you'd have to put a nail six
inches away from the nearest stud.
Just Wondering wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 3:23 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 10/12/2015 2:03 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>>>
>>> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem.
>>
>> Absolutely
>>
>> How hard is it to tap a nail into a wall?
>>
>> Probably easier with an actual hammer.
>>
>> A much bigger problem is locating a stud where
>>> you want to hang something heavy.
>>>
>>
>> That is relatively simple too. Use 4~5 stacked rare earth magnets
>> wrapped in masking tape, to protect a painted surface, and hover it
>> closely back and forth along the surface of the wall. The magnets will
>> almost pull out of your hand and stick to the wall everywhere that there
>> is a dry wall screw or nail.
> >
> You misunderstand. The problem isn't locating a stud, it's wanting to
> position the heavy whatever-it-is where you'd have to put a nail six
> inches away from the nearest stud.
I think the person who buys this does not have the notion of a
structural stud in mind.
The manufacturer should sell a broom with it to pick up the inevitable
pieces of glass.
Just Wondering wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>> wrote:
>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>
> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem. How hard is it to
> tap a nail into a wall? A much bigger problem is locating a stud
> where you want to hang something heavy.
Agreed - but people will buy anything...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 2/19/2012 6:57 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> "EXT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Feb 18, 8:44 am, "John Grossbohlin"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>>
>>> I can see a limited application for that, but as a proper hanging
>>> solution? Not so much.
>>> Lee Valley has a whole bunch of solutions far better suited for the
>>> job at hand.
>>
>> I love the examples of what can happen if you don't use their push-pin
>> driver. No large nail or spike holes, why would you use such a large
>> nail. No holes pounded through the drywall or plaster, who would hit
>> the pin, nail, spike so hard that the hammer goes through the wall.
>> Only to be solved with a solution to a problem that should not exist
>> except for the totally inept and dangerous.
>
> Might be amusing to see a profile of those who purchase this thing... It
> could be that they shouldn't be trusted with real tools and they are at
> least wise enough to self-select into the population that buys this
> thing. ;~)
>
> John
Exactly! LOL Those actors demonstrating this kind of stuff seem to be
right out of a 3 stooges movie.
On 10/12/2015 2:03 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 6:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, John Grossbohlin
>> wrote:
>>> https://www.instahang.com/
>>
> Looks to me like a solution in search of a problem.
Absolutely
How hard is it to tap a nail into a wall?
Probably easier with an actual hammer.
A much bigger problem is locating a stud where
> you want to hang something heavy.
>
That is relatively simple too. Use 4~5 stacked rare earth magnets
wrapped in masking tape, to protect a painted surface, and hover it
closely back and forth along the surface of the wall. The magnets will
almost pull out of your hand and stick to the wall everywhere that there
is a dry wall screw or nail.