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"Chris"

07/12/2004 10:07 PM

White oak ray fleck

Hello,
I am using qtr sawn white oak in a project & I want the ray fleck
to stand out. (of course) Any advice on the best way to achieve this. I read
about Lilly's warm glaze, but can't find it. I think that company was bought
out by Valspar.
I recently got good results using a gel stain & polyurethane. But
that white oak had no ray fleck
Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Chris


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in reply to "Chris" on 07/12/2004 10:07 PM

08/12/2004 9:07 AM

Stephen M on Dec 8, 5:17 am wrote:



I experimented with fuming and did not thing that it did that much to
highlight the rays. YMMV.


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I've read that Stickley used fuming precisely becuase it did not make
the ray flecks stand out. His object in darkening the wood uniformlly
was to make the ray flecks less prominent.

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FF

MS

"Mike S."

in reply to "Chris" on 07/12/2004 10:07 PM

08/12/2004 4:05 PM

I'm in the process of finishing some mission tables for my daughters for
Christmas and I used the Rockler Mission Gel Stain with very good results. I
apply it with a foam brush or whatever is handly and wipe it down with the
blue paper shop towels. Then use General Topcoat for the final finish coats.

--
Mike S.
Cape Girardeau, Mo.
[email protected]
http://members.tripod.com/n0yii/woodworking.htm

JJ

JGS

in reply to "Chris" on 07/12/2004 10:07 PM

08/12/2004 5:23 AM

This may help. Cheers, JG

http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/mission_oak.htm

Andy Dingley wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:07:50 -0500, "Chris" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I am using qtr sawn white oak in a project & I want the ray fleck
> >to stand out. (of course)
>
> Ammonia fume it. Read up on Stickley and his grain filling
> techniques. Read an article (Jewitt ?) in FWW on doing it with dye
> stains. Pick the right boards to start with - not all QS boards are
> sawn equal.
>
> --
> Smert' spamionam

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Chris" on 07/12/2004 10:07 PM

08/12/2004 6:54 AM

The rays are less absorbent than that which surrounds them. Any stain or
finish will highlight them.
Truth is, even oil will appear to darken the background by cutting scatter,
effectively emphasizing them.

"Chris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> I am using qtr sawn white oak in a project & I want the ray
fleck
> to stand out. (of course) Any advice on the best way to achieve this. I
read
> about Lilly's warm glaze, but can't find it. I think that company was
bought
> out by Valspar.
> I recently got good results using a gel stain & polyurethane.
But
> that white oak had no ray fleck
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to "Chris" on 07/12/2004 10:07 PM

08/12/2004 8:17 AM

> This may help. Cheers, JG
>
> http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/mission_oak.htm
>


I have actually used this recipe. It works. The reason why it creates
contrast with the rays is that the pigmented glaze (the black stuff) only
ends up in the pores and not on the whole surface. The rays are compicuously
lacking on big pores and therefore "stand out" as the lighter areas.

It is a complicated and pricey recipe, but it really did come out like the
photos.

I experimented with fuming and did not thing that it did that much to
highlight the rays. YMMV.

-Steve


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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Chris" on 07/12/2004 10:07 PM

08/12/2004 4:19 AM

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:07:50 -0500, "Chris" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I am using qtr sawn white oak in a project & I want the ray fleck
>to stand out. (of course)

Ammonia fume it. Read up on Stickley and his grain filling
techniques. Read an article (Jewitt ?) in FWW on doing it with dye
stains. Pick the right boards to start with - not all QS boards are
sawn equal.

--
Smert' spamionam


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