ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
The following list was posted several years ago, so it's probably
worth repeating it for those who came later. It's not an exhaustive
list, probably the tip of the iceberg, but you get what you pay for.
No claims are made for its accuracy or political correctness.
AFAIK As Far As I Know
Big Box Store Home Depot, Lowe's (others in different localities)
BS Band Saw or Bull Sh_t
BT3000 Table Saw made by Riobi
BTW By The Way
Chop Saw A metal cutting tool, functions like a miter saw
CMS Compound Miter Saw
Crapsman Derogatory name for Sears products
Deja News searchable archive of NG postings
http://www.dejanews.com/
DAMHIKT Don't ask me how I know this
(Read as: I once screwed up the same way)
DIY Do it yourself
DW DeWalt
FAQ Frequently asked questions
FF Face Frame
FS For Sale
FWIW For whatever its worth
FW or FWW Fine Woodworking Magazine
GW Garrett Wade
HF Harbor Freight
HD Home Depot (U.S. largest building supply chain)
IIRC If I recall correctly
IOW In other words
IMHO In my humble opinion
KD Kiln dried
Lowe's Second largest building supply chain in U.S.
MDF Medium Density Fiberboard
Neander WW who abstain from the use of power tools
(Also Neanderthal)
Newbie Someone who shows they have not read the NG that much
Norm Norm Abram of the NYW (syndicated WW show on PBS)
Normites follower of Norm and user of dedicated power tools
NYW New Yankee Workshop, seen on PBS, and in abridged versions
On the DIY network
NG News Group or no good
Orange Tools router bits made by CMP and painted orange
OTOH On the other hand
PC Porter Cable
Persuader large deadblow hammer
POS Piece of sh-t
RAS Radial Arm Saw
ROS Random Orbit Sander
SCMS Sliding compound miter saw
S4S sanded on four sides
SS Scroll saw or stainless steel
SWMBO She who must be obeyed (aka a wife)
SWAG Silly wild ass guess
TANSTAFL There ain't no such thing as a free lunch
TIA Thanks in advance
TS Table Saw
VSR Variable speed reversible
WW wood working
Yellow tools Tools made by DeWalt
YMMV disclaimer (Your milage may vary)
"Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I did/still do. And for those in the Philly area there was Piels and
> Ortliebs. Two proven stomach lining and paint removers.
> --
Don't forget Schmidt's and Esslinger
On Thu, 24 May 2007 10:53:49 -0500, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>GROVER wrote:
>| ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>
><snip>
>
>It might be time to add:
>
>BORG Big Orange Retail Giant
Although some folks have created that definition to fit the acronym, I
believe most will agree it's a reference to the Star Trek (or
something) beast in space called the borg which will assimilate us
all.
Particularly so since the borg is also Lowe's (blue), Menards (unknown
color), Farm & Fleet (ditto), and others, rendering the "orange" part
a non-sequitir.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
On May 24, 11:53 am, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> GROVER wrote:
>
> | ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>
> <snip>
>
> It might be time to add:
>
> ABPW news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
> BORG Big Orange Retail Giant
> BS Bandsaw
> DAGS Do/did a Google Search
> DP Drill Press
> LV Lee Valley Tool Co
> WTB Want to buy
> WTF I don't understand
LMAO
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On May 24, 11:55 am, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, GROVER <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
> [snip]
> >S4S sanded on four sides
>
> Actually means *surfaced* on four sides, typically planed on the faces and
> straight-line rip sawed on the edges. Sometimes sanded too, but usually not.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Doug,
You are correct, I'll fix it for the next iteration.
Joe G
On May 24, 11:53 am, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> GROVER wrote:
>
> | ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>
> <snip>
>
> It might be time to add:
>
> ABPW news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
> BORG Big Orange Retail Giant
> BS Bandsaw
> DAGS Do/did a Google Search
> DP Drill Press
> LV Lee Valley Tool Co
> WTB Want to buy
> WTF I don't understand
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Morris,
Thanks for the suggestions, I will include yjem next time.
Joe G
On May 24, 12:07 pm, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 24 May 2007 08:15:00 -0700, GROVER <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> You may want to update it a bit.
>
> > ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>
> >The following list was posted several years ago, so it's probably
> >worth repeating it for those who came later. It's not an exhaustive
> >list, probably the tip of the iceberg, but you get what you pay for.
> >No claims are made for its accuracy or political correctness.
> >Big Box Store Home Depot, Lowe's (others in different localities)
>
> Also known as the borg (reference to Star Trek or some such and the
> alien borg that threatened to assimilate us all), which is probably
> even more widely used (and less understood) than Big Box Store.
>
> >BT3000 Table Saw made by Riobi
>
> Also commonly known as BT3K.
>
> >Chop Saw A metal cutting tool, functions like a miter saw
>
> Technically true, except that almost everyone in woodworking refers to
> a miter saw (the wood kind, and non-compound, and non-slider) as a
> chop saw.
>
> >Crapsman Derogatory name for Sears products
>
> But well deserved in many cases.
>
> >Deja News searchable archive of NG postings
>
> I believe they no longer exist, being taken over by Google.
>
> >FS For Sale
>
> You should probably add other prefixes, such as FA (for auction), WTB
> (wanted to buy), OT (off topic), etc.
>
> >Neander WW who abstain from the use of power tools
>
> I believe it's generally considered poor form to use acronyms to
> define acronyms, particularly when they themselves have yet to be
> defined in the list (see also NG).
>
> >Norm Norm Abram of the NYW (syndicated WW show on PBS)
> >Normites follower of Norm and user of dedicated power tools
> >NYW New Yankee Workshop, seen on PBS, and in abridged versions
> > On the DIY network
>
> You might mention that some readers are incapable of seeing a
> reference to Norm or TNYW without flying into paroxysms of anti-brad
> nailer epithets.
>
> It would not upset me to see certain fan sites mentioned in
> conjunction with Norm and TNYW.
>
> >Orange Tools router bits made by CMP and painted orange
>
> I believe you mean CMT.
>
> >Persuader large deadblow hammer
>
> Doesn't have to be a dead blow. Doesn't even have to be a hammer. I
> refer you to the phrase "brogan maintenance" which, although brogan is
> probably no longer a well recognized name for shoe, means to kick it.
>
> If you're going to mention "persuader" you might also include
> "Tennessee smoke wrench" or its variants, as synonymous with applied
> (perhaps injudiciously) heat (propane, MAPP, or acetylene).
>
> >S4S sanded on four sides
>
> I believe that's actually "surfaced four sides." Usually planed, less
> frequently sanded. Also, there are S2S and S3S variants.
>
> >TANSTAFL There ain't no such thing as a free lunch
>
> Not enough "As"; count 'em. TANSTAAFL. Every rule of abbreviation,
> capitalization, or acronyming requires that if you count one of those
> you must count the other, or count neither, which renderes the acronym
> unpronouncable (in my view a principle tenet of acronyms)
>
> >WW wood working
>
> Popularly known (at least by a couple of us) as "wood-dorking." Ask
> your kids or your wife or Tom.
>
> What about "the wreck?" Although if one is here, one probably already
> knows that.
>
> Maybe it's not the same as the old days, and the chief practitioner
> has wandered away, but at one time it was quite common to supplement
> any word which has an alternative Canuckistani spelling with a
> parenthetical rendering of that spelling including an aside to David
> (as in David Eisan, now, unfortunately, an infrequent visitor, but at
> one time perhaps the most successful fisherman on the wreck). e.g.
> "that's a nice color (colour, David)."
>
> You can check (cheque, David) with other regulars on that.
>
> --
> LRod
>
> Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>
> Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>
> http://www.woodbutcher.net
>
> Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
>
> email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
> If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
> care to correspond with you anyway.
L Rod,
Thanks for your input, I will include your suggestions in the near
future. I guess I'll have to start giving this list a revision number
and date
Joe G
On May 24, 12:07 pm, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You can check (cheque, David) with other regulars on that.
>
Not to pick nits, but when a Canuckistani writes a cheque, he checks
to see if he wrote it correctly. A 'cheque' is a separate word.
> ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
A few more I've seen:
Griz Grizzly tools
HD Usually Home Depot, but I've seen it used as 'Heavy Duty' also
LN Lie-Nielsen tools
LABP Low Angle Block Plane
LOML Love Of My Life, a slightly more respectful (IMHO) term for
wife. (Also not gender-specific.)
M&T Mortise and Tenon
QSWO QuarterSawn White Oak
SFWIW Frequently used where I think FWIW would be more appropriate -
apparently adds a "So" to the beginning.
Thanks for compiling these,
Andy
On May 24, 12:07 pm, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Norm Norm Abram of the NYW (syndicated WW show on PBS)
> >Normites follower of Norm and user of dedicated power tools
> >NYW New Yankee Workshop, seen on PBS, and in abridged
>> versions on the DIY network
>
> You might mention that some readers are incapable of seeing a
> reference to Norm or TNYW without flying into paroxysms of anti-brad
> nailer epithets.
>
I have printed out your post and glued it to the wall with a few brads
to hold it until the glue dries. ( I of course took the time to read,
understand and follow all of the safety rules that came with my nailer
and didn't forget the most important safety rule of all, safety
glasses)
On May 24, 1:38 pm, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>
> A few more I've seen:
> Griz Grizzly tools
> HD Usually Home Depot, but I've seen it used as 'Heavy Duty' also
> LN Lie-Nielsen tools
> LABP Low Angle Block Plane
> LOML Love Of My Life, a slightly more respectful (IMHO) term for
> wife. (Also not gender-specific.)
> M&T Mortise and Tenon
> QSWO QuarterSawn White Oak
> SFWIW Frequently used where I think FWIW would be more appropriate -
> apparently adds a "So" to the beginning.
>
> Thanks for compiling these,
> Andy
Thanks for input, Andy. I gotten enough additions to be working on the
next revision.
Joe G
On May 24, 9:09 pm, NoOne N Particular <[email protected]> wrote:
> GROVER wrote:
> > ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>
> > The following list was posted several years ago, so it's probably
> > worth repeating it for those who came later. It's not an exhaustive
> > list, probably the tip of the iceberg, but you get what you pay for.
> > No claims are made for its accuracy or political correctness.
>
> > AFAIK As Far As I Know
> > Big Box Store Home Depot, Lowe's (others in different localities)
> > BS Band Saw or Bull Sh_t
> > BT3000 Table Saw made by Riobi
> > BTW By The Way
> > Chop Saw A metal cutting tool, functions like a miter saw
> > CMS Compound Miter Saw
> > Crapsman Derogatory name for Sears products
> > Deja News searchable archive of NG postings
> > http://www.dejanews.com/
> > DAMHIKT Don't ask me how I know this
> > (Read as: I once screwed up the same way)
> > DIY Do it yourself
> > DW DeWalt
> > FAQ Frequently asked questions
> > FF Face Frame
> > FS For Sale
> > FWIW For whatever its worth
> > FW or FWW Fine Woodworking Magazine
> > GW Garrett Wade
> > HF Harbor Freight
> > HD Home Depot (U.S. largest building supply chain)
> > IIRC If I recall correctly
> > IOW In other words
> > IMHO In my humble opinion
> > KD Kiln dried
> > Lowe's Second largest building supply chain in U.S.
> > MDF Medium Density Fiberboard
> > Neander WW who abstain from the use of power tools
> > (Also Neanderthal)
> > Newbie Someone who shows they have not read the NG that much
> > Norm Norm Abram of the NYW (syndicated WW show on PBS)
> > Normites follower of Norm and user of dedicated power tools
> > NYW New Yankee Workshop, seen on PBS, and in abridged versions
> > On the DIY network
> > NG News Group or no good
> > Orange Tools router bits made by CMP and painted orange
> > OTOH On the other hand
> > PC Porter Cable
>
> > Persuader large deadblow hammer
> > POS Piece of sh-t
> > RAS Radial Arm Saw
> > ROS Random Orbit Sander
> > SCMS Sliding compound miter saw
> > S4S sanded on four sides
> > SS Scroll saw or stainless steel
> > SWMBO She who must be obeyed (aka a wife)
> > SWAG Silly wild ass guess
> > TANSTAFL There ain't no such thing as a free lunch
> > TIA Thanks in advance
> > TS Table Saw
> > VSR Variable speed reversible
> > WW wood working
> > Yellow tools Tools made by DeWalt
> > YMMV disclaimer (Your milage may vary)
>
> All this and no "skunk piss"???
>
> Wayne
>
> P.S. That would be penetrating oil
Also Coors Light
Fri, May 25, 2007, 5:55am (EDT-3) [email protected] (RayV) doth
mumble:
Also Coors Light
Yuck.
A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles
a year.
Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of
beer a year.
That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.
http://cruisin2.wordpress.com/2007/04/28/miles-per-gallon/
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
On 24 May, 17:20, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
> Particularly so since the borg is also Lowe's (blue), Menards (unknown
> color), Farm & Fleet (ditto), and others, rendering the "orange" part
> a non-sequitir.
Orange is nice because it also translates the acronym to "B&Q" in the
UK.
On May 25, 9:12 am, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 24 May, 17:20, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Particularly so since the borg is also Lowe's (blue), Menards (unknown
> > color), Farm & Fleet (ditto), and others, rendering the "orange" part
> > a non-sequitir.
>
> Orange is nice because it also translates the acronym to "B&Q" in the
> UK.
Didn't I read in here that somebody died drinking shellac?
Supposedly, it was quite a finish.
On May 25, 10:16 am, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 25 May 2007 05:55:24 -0700, RayV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Coors Light
>
> Isn't that redundant?
>
> --
LOL...but try to think of Coors Heavy. Nummienums...all that flavour!
*rubbing my tummy and drooling in anticipation!*
Is this Friday?
On May 25, 12:14 pm, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 25 May 2007 08:25:53 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On May 25, 10:16 am, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 25 May 2007 05:55:24 -0700, RayV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >Coors Light
>
> >> Isn't that redundant?
>
> >> --
> >LOL...but try to think of Coors Heavy. Nummienums...all that flavour!
> >*rubbing my tummy and drooling in anticipation!*
>
> Nummienums?
Is there an emoticon for tongue-in-cheek?
>There is no Coors heavy.
Imagine if there was. Then you'd have a concentrated version of
flavoured water. Extra boredom.
On May 25, 1:36 pm, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>
> >> There is no Coors heavy.
> >
> > Imagine if there was. Then you'd have a concentrated version of
> > flavoured water. Extra boredom.
>
> Coors, the product of a malcontented horse.
What is amazing, is how much your average consumer forgets when they
taste something 'without' a label.
Case in point was that my mentor at the National Research Council was
an avid scotch drinker. As this was well known amongst his followers,
he ended up with a collection of scotches second to none. A cellar
full. I don't think he was ever stumped when asked if he had a certain
brand.
One night, as guests at his house, my crew and I were challenged to a
double blind taste test. His wife, who would serve us, had no clue
what we were trying either. She served up 8 glasses with coded numbers
taped onto them, and all of us went from glass to glass, making notes
as we went along.
They were clearly very different, from pale to almost cognac-like.
We all agreed on the worst (IIRC, it was Vat 69) and almost all of us
preferred the same one...I distinctly remember it was Bells. Chivas,
Livit, and a few other high-end ones rated average. Granted, none of
my guys, or me, were experts.
ABC news recently did a similar test with vodka.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=3201973&page=1
When you don't know what it is... many pre-conceived ideas go right
out the window.
BUT... there is no way in hell that Coors would get past me. Or Bud.
I have been told, that if you drink enough Coors, you end up goos-
stepping as you walk. (Must be the Adolph ingredient?)
r----> who is off to the pub for an Erdinger.
On May 25, 3:13 pm, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>... any vintage that you can dunk a
> Bluebell sugar free popsicle in will do just fine, right Leon?. ;)
Okay. Spill!
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, duckecho@gmail-dot-com wrote:
>
>>Nummienums? Please. I recall the days when I was living in Illinois
>>(where we had to put up with Stroh's and Falstaff)
>
>
> Don't forget Rhinelander -- worst beer _by_far_ that I have ever tasted.
>
>
[snippage]
Guess you never had a Brown Derby (IIRC a Safeway brand). College
students drink for cost but that stuff was truly awful.
gaggers,
jo4hn
On 24 May 2007 08:15:00 -0700, GROVER <[email protected]>
wrote:
You may want to update it a bit.
> ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>
>The following list was posted several years ago, so it's probably
>worth repeating it for those who came later. It's not an exhaustive
>list, probably the tip of the iceberg, but you get what you pay for.
>No claims are made for its accuracy or political correctness.
>Big Box Store Home Depot, Lowe's (others in different localities)
Also known as the borg (reference to Star Trek or some such and the
alien borg that threatened to assimilate us all), which is probably
even more widely used (and less understood) than Big Box Store.
>BT3000 Table Saw made by Riobi
Also commonly known as BT3K.
>Chop Saw A metal cutting tool, functions like a miter saw
Technically true, except that almost everyone in woodworking refers to
a miter saw (the wood kind, and non-compound, and non-slider) as a
chop saw.
>Crapsman Derogatory name for Sears products
But well deserved in many cases.
>Deja News searchable archive of NG postings
I believe they no longer exist, being taken over by Google.
>FS For Sale
You should probably add other prefixes, such as FA (for auction), WTB
(wanted to buy), OT (off topic), etc.
>Neander WW who abstain from the use of power tools
I believe it's generally considered poor form to use acronyms to
define acronyms, particularly when they themselves have yet to be
defined in the list (see also NG).
>Norm Norm Abram of the NYW (syndicated WW show on PBS)
>Normites follower of Norm and user of dedicated power tools
>NYW New Yankee Workshop, seen on PBS, and in abridged versions
> On the DIY network
You might mention that some readers are incapable of seeing a
reference to Norm or TNYW without flying into paroxysms of anti-brad
nailer epithets.
It would not upset me to see certain fan sites mentioned in
conjunction with Norm and TNYW.
>Orange Tools router bits made by CMP and painted orange
I believe you mean CMT.
>Persuader large deadblow hammer
Doesn't have to be a dead blow. Doesn't even have to be a hammer. I
refer you to the phrase "brogan maintenance" which, although brogan is
probably no longer a well recognized name for shoe, means to kick it.
If you're going to mention "persuader" you might also include
"Tennessee smoke wrench" or its variants, as synonymous with applied
(perhaps injudiciously) heat (propane, MAPP, or acetylene).
>S4S sanded on four sides
I believe that's actually "surfaced four sides." Usually planed, less
frequently sanded. Also, there are S2S and S3S variants.
>TANSTAFL There ain't no such thing as a free lunch
Not enough "As"; count 'em. TANSTAAFL. Every rule of abbreviation,
capitalization, or acronyming requires that if you count one of those
you must count the other, or count neither, which renderes the acronym
unpronouncable (in my view a principle tenet of acronyms)
>WW wood working
Popularly known (at least by a couple of us) as "wood-dorking." Ask
your kids or your wife or Tom.
What about "the wreck?" Although if one is here, one probably already
knows that.
Maybe it's not the same as the old days, and the chief practitioner
has wandered away, but at one time it was quite common to supplement
any word which has an alternative Canuckistani spelling with a
parenthetical rendering of that spelling including an aside to David
(as in David Eisan, now, unfortunately, an infrequent visitor, but at
one time perhaps the most successful fisherman on the wreck). e.g.
"that's a nice color (colour, David)."
You can check (cheque, David) with other regulars on that.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
Thu, May 24, 2007, 8:15am (EDT-3) [email protected] (GROVER) doth
posteth:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC
WOODWORKING
The following list was posted several years ago, so it's probably worth
repeating <snip>
I sue don't recal it. Or, I immediately drove it from my mine.
Yeah, that's probably it. Needs a LOT of editing, things need
correcting, added, modified, etc. Needs a LOT of input from outside the
U.S. too. So, in no alphabetical order.
You show Norm, but you left out Roy and Bob. Which is reason enough to
believe this list is totally phone. Remember Nor and Roy, good. Bob,
evil.
HD - Home Depot, Home Desperate, to be avoided.
ACE - American hardware store
WAG - Wild ass guess.
SWMBO - She Who Must Be Obedient
APBW - news:alt.binaries.pictures.weapons
Archives - also rec.woodworking archives - this is where you go to look
up questions that have been beaten to death dozens of times already.
Read here and you wan't need to ask so many dumb questions, just a few -
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?as_ugroup=3Drec.woodworking=
&lr=3D&num=3D30
ROTFLMAO - Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
WTF - Another polite way of asking, What kind of a dumb ass
thing/question is that?
PC - Politically correct
I've got a better idea. Just post the link to the archives
everyonce in awhile, and let people look this thread up and read it.
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
In article <[email protected]>, NoOne N
Particular <[email protected]> wrote:
> All this and no "skunk piss"???
Bug spit = shellac
GROVER wrote:
> ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>
>
> The following list was posted several years ago, so it's probably
> worth repeating it for those who came later. It's not an exhaustive
> list, probably the tip of the iceberg, but you get what you pay for.
> No claims are made for its accuracy or political correctness.
>
> AFAIK As Far As I Know
> Big Box Store Home Depot, Lowe's (others in different localities)
> BS Band Saw or Bull Sh_t
> BT3000 Table Saw made by Riobi
> BTW By The Way
> Chop Saw A metal cutting tool, functions like a miter saw
> CMS Compound Miter Saw
> Crapsman Derogatory name for Sears products
> Deja News searchable archive of NG postings
> http://www.dejanews.com/
> DAMHIKT Don't ask me how I know this
> (Read as: I once screwed up the same way)
> DIY Do it yourself
> DW DeWalt
> FAQ Frequently asked questions
> FF Face Frame
> FS For Sale
> FWIW For whatever its worth
> FW or FWW Fine Woodworking Magazine
> GW Garrett Wade
> HF Harbor Freight
> HD Home Depot (U.S. largest building supply chain)
> IIRC If I recall correctly
> IOW In other words
> IMHO In my humble opinion
> KD Kiln dried
> Lowe's Second largest building supply chain in U.S.
> MDF Medium Density Fiberboard
> Neander WW who abstain from the use of power tools
> (Also Neanderthal)
> Newbie Someone who shows they have not read the NG that much
> Norm Norm Abram of the NYW (syndicated WW show on PBS)
> Normites follower of Norm and user of dedicated power tools
> NYW New Yankee Workshop, seen on PBS, and in abridged versions
> On the DIY network
> NG News Group or no good
> Orange Tools router bits made by CMP and painted orange
> OTOH On the other hand
> PC Porter Cable
>
>
>
>
> Persuader large deadblow hammer
> POS Piece of sh-t
> RAS Radial Arm Saw
> ROS Random Orbit Sander
> SCMS Sliding compound miter saw
> S4S sanded on four sides
> SS Scroll saw or stainless steel
> SWMBO She who must be obeyed (aka a wife)
> SWAG Silly wild ass guess
> TANSTAFL There ain't no such thing as a free lunch
> TIA Thanks in advance
> TS Table Saw
> VSR Variable speed reversible
> WW wood working
> Yellow tools Tools made by DeWalt
> YMMV disclaimer (Your milage may vary)
>
All this and no "skunk piss"???
Wayne
P.S. That would be penetrating oil
Fri, May 25, 2007, 1:09am (EDT+4) [email protected]
(NoOne=A0N=A0Particular) dot queryeth:
All this and no "skunk piss"??? <snip>
That remnds me. I forgot
TROLL - Fishing.
TROLL - Sad, dorky, little dipsticks (a uphonism), with no social life,
therefore no girlfriends, often found with hair on he palm of their
hand. Beng as they are such unhappy and miserable indivduals they try
to make life miserable for others as well. Usually early teens, but if
older have an eary teen mentality.
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
Nova wrote:
>
> LRod wrote:
>
> >
> > Maybe it's not the same as the old days, and the chief practitioner
> > has wandered away, but at one time it was quite common to supplement
> > any word which has an alternative Canuckistani spelling with a
> > parenthetical rendering of that spelling including an aside to David
> > (as in David Eisan, now, unfortunately, an infrequent visitor, but at
> > one time perhaps the most successful fisherman on the wreck). e.g.
> > "that's a nice color (colour, David)."
> >
> > You can check (cheque, David) with other regulars on that.
> >
> >
>
> SOB! I miss that guy. :-(
That list keeps getting longer.
Duke of URL
Larry Jaques (NO C!)
Danny Priloux
O'Deen / Paddy / Paddy Lac (the coiner of Scary Sharp?)
Conan the Librarian
Paul S.
Dave Fleming (the boat builder)
:
:
:
Fewer mentors - and less humor.
Thankfully, The Two Toms (Watson and Plamann) stop by
once in a while.
charlie b
GROVER wrote:
| ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
<snip>
It might be time to add:
ABPW news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
BORG Big Orange Retail Giant
BS Bandsaw
DAGS Do/did a Google Search
DP Drill Press
LV Lee Valley Tool Co
WTB Want to buy
WTF I don't understand
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:36:41 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>> Iwas at a science fiction convention in Chicago once,
>
>Did you play D&D? <G>
No, I've never been much into gaming, other than chess.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
On 24 May 2007 09:46:41 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>On May 24, 12:07 pm, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> You can check (cheque, David) with other regulars on that.
>>
>Not to pick nits, but when a Canuckistani writes a cheque, he checks
>to see if he wrote it correctly. A 'cheque' is a separate word.
As the long suffering spouse of a genuine Canuckistani (from Ontario,
too, no less), I should have known that. It may have gotten missed in
the purge, though (she's been "below the border" for nearly 40 years
now). I rarely hear her say "colour," "theatre," or "neighbour"
anymore. And she hasn't said "chesterfield" in years.
I should have used a better example.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
On 25 May 2007 05:55:24 -0700, RayV <[email protected]> wrote:
>Coors Light
Isn't that redundant?
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
>
> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I did/still do. And for those in the Philly area there was Piels and
>> Ortliebs. Two proven stomach lining and paint removers.
>> --
>
> Don't forget Schmidt's and Esslinger
Never tried Esslinger, but there's a special ulcer dedicated to Schmidts,
Schlitz and Ballentine.
--
"Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes
balls to get old!"
On Fri, 25 May 2007 21:34:35 GMT, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Then at Christmas time there was Iron City, a Pittsburgh beer sold
>with the label, "Old Frothing Slosh, the pale, stale ale, with the
>foam on the bottom'.
I've had Iron City, while attending a Penguins game at the Igloo, and
this micro brew fan actually liked it. <G>
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
>> WTF I don't understand
>
> LMAO
Yeah, that's like
HEY! MF, Hey! My Friend. ;~)
In article <[email protected]>, GROVER <[email protected]> wrote:
> ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
[snip]
>S4S sanded on four sides
Actually means *surfaced* on four sides, typically planed on the faces and
straight-line rip sawed on the edges. Sometimes sanded too, but usually not.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Somebody wrote:
> Don't forget Rhinelander -- worst beer _by_far_ that I have ever
tasted.
Compared to POC (Known with pride as Piss On Cleveland), and that
great beer from Ft Wayne with the French sounding name "Jeo-Bell",
anything else is in the high cotton. (They were low cost, just what
every college guy needed).
Then at Christmas time there was Iron City, a Pittsburgh beer sold
with the label, "Old Frothing Slosh, the pale, stale ale, with the
foam on the bottom'.
Even had a picture of "Miss Frothing Slosh", a young lady who must
have weighed at least 350 lbs.
Lew
In article <[email protected]>, duckecho@gmail-dot-com wrote:
>Nummienums? Please. I recall the days when I was living in Illinois
>(where we had to put up with Stroh's and Falstaff)
Don't forget Rhinelander -- worst beer _by_far_ that I have ever tasted.
>and Coors was
>legendary there. It was never sold east of the Mississippi in those
>days, and I guess that must have made it seem mystical. However, when
>I made my first trip to Denver and tried one out I thought, "what the
>hell is the fuss about? This is like flavored water."
I had the identical experience. IMO Coors beer is just another example of an
inferior product made popular by skillful marketing.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
On May 25, 11:39 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Fri, May 25, 2007, 5:43pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Doug Miller)
> doth proclaimeth:
> Don't forget Rhinelander -- worst beer _by_far_ that I have ever tasted.
> <snip>
>
> Obviously then, you have never tried French beer.
>
Surely you meant to say Freedom beer?
On May 25, 11:39 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Fri, May 25, 2007, 5:43pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Doug Miller)
> doth proclaimeth:
> Don't forget Rhinelander -- worst beer _by_far_ that I have ever tasted.
> <snip>
>
> Obviously then, you have never tried French beer.
>
Upon further reflection, Kronenbourg is pretty darn drinkable.
Of course, having said that, it might ruffle the feathers of a few who
would dispute its 'Frenchness', as it originates in the Alsatian
region and at the time of the founding of the brewery in 1664 the area
was in German hands.
It is, however, French now and I like it.
Mind you, when Kronenbourg was first poured, the Dutch had already
enjoyed Grolsch for close to half a century. Of course the Germans had
already been drunk on Weihenstephan for 600 years by then.
The French do know a thing or two about alcoholic beverages. Calvados,
Armagnacs, Cognacs, Champaigne, and a slew of reds and whites.
But I'm sure they have a few bad beers as well.
On May 27, 1:09 am, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Cognac, apple brandy, and not that great; none of he others are that
> fantastic eiher. Yeah, some of the wines are good, But iff you think
> champagknee is drinkable, you need to try a sparkling white wine. And,
> if you think Cognk is so great, you really ought to try a Napoleon
> brandy.
Calvados, cognacs and armagnacs are all brandies. The Calvados is
apple based and a good one is absolutely delicious. I much prefer a
shot of that over any cognac/brandy... but not over a fine, well-aged
Armangnac.
I do not have a clue where all the hubbub over cognac is based on, but
an Armagnac will make one exclaim (forgive my spelling/french) "Comme
l'enfant jesus au pantelon valours."
Loosely translated: Like child Jesus peeing through velvet pants.
Of course, this is from a crowd that makes cheese, lets it rot then
exclaims "like from between the toes of the apostles!!"
I like visiting France, a great place to buy rifles: "never used,
dropped only once."
In NATO, back in the sixties, you could always tell a French tank by
the fact it had back-up lights.
...but then there was Bardot....(didn't age well though, unlike
calvado or camembert)
Sun, May 27, 2007, 9:57am (EDT-3) [email protected] (Robatoy) doth
sayeth:
Calvados, cognacs and armagnacs are all brandies. The Calvados is apple
based <snip>
Thought it was understood they're all brandies. Maybe not.
Apple jack is also apple based. And, amazingly, scumble is also .
And neither is French.
The reason I omitted French drinks from my list is simple. I just
don't think tat most of them are that good, There's a lot of stuff out
there that's better. I "have" had some quite good Napolean brandy
before, but as it seem to be applied to any cognac aged more than 5
years, there's really not much I'd consider that good.
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
Sat, May 26, 2007, 8:51am (EDT-3) [email protected] (Robatoy)
confesses he likes French beer:
Upon further reflection, Kronenbourg is pretty darn drinkable. Of
course, having said that, it might ruffle the feathers of a few who
would dispute its 'Frenchness',
Oh no, after checking their site, I wouldn't "dream" of disputing
its "Frenchiness".
http://www.k1664.co.uk/index_html.htm
Then he goes on to exclaim:
The French do know a thing or two about alcoholic beverages. Calvados,
Armagnacs, Cognacs, Champaigne, and a slew of reds and whites. But I'm
sure they have a few bad beers as well.
A thing or two yes.
Champaigne, sour wine. Might as well drink vinegar, with a bit of
everclear in it.
Cognac, apple brandy, and not that great; none of he others are that
fantastic eiher. Yeah, some of the wines are good, But iff you think
champagknee is drinkable, you need to try a sparkling white wine. And,
if you think Cognk is so great, you really ought to try a Napoleon
brandy.
If I were still a drinking man tho, I'd have a stock of DonQ laid
in. For wine, it'd be scuppernong. For beer, I would reallike like one
or two of te German brews, but they don't export the one's I'd line.
So, probably some San Miguel, Singha, and Bud. My tastes are simple.
Ah yes, before I forget, I'd lay in a bit of peppermint schnaps
also. For those of you that don't know, one drop of pepermint scnhaps
in a shot of cheap booze with turn it into a very smooh drink. Same
with a lousy beer, one drop per glass, improves the taste immensely.
I'd lay in a stock of cheap booze and beer for guests to drink, ecause I
sure wouldn't lay out good coin buying te good stuff for someone else to
swill down.
However, I'm no longer a drinking man, so now I occassionally have
a non-alcoholic beer, usually O'Douls, I believe it is, dark. I love
the taste of a bood beer, but don't like the effect of the alcohol.
Because I can feel the alcohol in even one, now I never drink more than
one of the "non-alcoholic" beers per day. Life is not so bad even
wthout real beer. It's even better without French beer.
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
Sun, May 27, 2007, 1:09am [email protected] (J=A0T) I wandered in
and mumbled:
<snip>=A0If I were still a drinking man tho, I'd have a stock of DonQ
laid in. For wine, it'd be scuppernong. For beer, I would really like
like one or two of the German brews, but they don't export the one's I'd
line. So, probably some San Miguel, Singha, and Bud. My tastes are
simple. <snip>
Now that I've thought of it a bit, I'd add a few more. Drambuie,
Newfoundland rum, and, if I could find any I could trust (that's not
going to happen), I'd lay in a gallon or two of real moonshine, about
120 proof or so. I had one of my clerks bring me back a bottle of
tequila out of Mexico one time, I'm not sure if they made it for export
or not, might have been something like Red Rooster, I'd lay in a couple
of bottles of that two. I think a bit of Napoleon brandy would pretty
well top off the list.
But any more the only hard stuff I drink is if I've got a real bad
cold. I get some cheap booze for mixing up a tall hot toddy, with
whiskey, lemon juice, sugar, hot water. Straitly medicinal, so not much
concerned with taste, just gulp one down, and hit the bed.
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
On Sun, 27 May 2007 01:09:44 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
...
> However, I'm no longer a drinking man, so now I occassionally have
>a non-alcoholic beer, usually O'Douls, I believe it is, dark. I love
>the taste of a bood beer, but don't like the effect of the alcohol.
...
JOAT, I'm beginning to get worried. Neither of us likes American
football, we both like O'Douls Amber... If I start painting my tools
yellow, I'm gonna have my wife call the men in the white coats.
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA
Sun, May 27, 2007, 4:17pm (EDT-1) Tom Veatch starts to worry me with:
JOAT, I'm beginning to get worried. Neither of us likes American
football, we both like O'Douls Amber... If I start painting my tools
yellow, I'm gonna have my wife call the men in the white coats.
If you didn't live so far away, I'd begn to suspect I'm soon to be
a victim of identity theft. Say hello to Auntie Em by the way. Don't
worry about painting your ools yellow. If you get that far along you be
granted inner peace. Unles you have kids that is. LMAO
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
Fri, May 25, 2007, 5:43pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Doug=A0Miller)
doth proclaimeth:
Don't forget Rhinelander -- worst beer _by_far_ that I have ever tasted.
<snip>
Obviously then, you have never tried French beer.
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>Fri, May 25, 2007, 5:43pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Doug=A0Miller)
>doth proclaimeth:
>Don't forget Rhinelander -- worst beer _by_far_ that I have ever tasted.
><snip>
>
> Obviously then, you have never tried French beer.
That is true. And I shudder to imagine what it might be like.
The French produce some pretty damn fine wines, though.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
In article <[email protected]>, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>Doug Miller wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
> duckecho@gmail-dot-com wrote:
>>
>>>Nummienums? Please. I recall the days when I was living in Illinois
>>>(where we had to put up with Stroh's and Falstaff)
>>
>>
>> Don't forget Rhinelander -- worst beer _by_far_ that I have ever tasted.
>>
>>
>[snippage]
>Guess you never had a Brown Derby (IIRC a Safeway brand). College
>students drink for cost but that stuff was truly awful.
No, I never did, but I'm sure Rhinelander is worse. Let me put it this way: I
was at a science fiction convention in Chicago once, lo these many years ago
in my foolish and misspent youth. They had Rhinelander in the hospitality
suite, and it was free. I drew a cup from the keg, and after one swallow, I
began looking for a trash can --- ah-HAH! over there in the corner! Walked
over... and it was already one-third full of nearly-full cups of beer. Now
THAT is truly bad beer, so bad that people won't drink it even when it's free.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Robatoy wrote:
>
> What is amazing, is how much your average consumer forgets when they
> taste something 'without' a label.
I always found it interesting here in the US that the federal gov't
defines how you can make vodka as well as gin.
You can start by fermenting anything you want, (ie: corn, potato
peels, whatever), to get the alcohol.
You then triple distill it to get 200 proof alcohol, then cut it with
distilled water to get whatever proof is desired, then bottle & sell.
Gin is the same except it is double distilled and the juniper berry
flavor is added.
Those are the minimums, but they sure seem to cover things.
I'm sure similar rules are in place for other spirits.
BTW, I can sure tell the difference between 80 proof dishwater and 100
proof vodka, but among 100 proof brands, NAW, they all taste good.
Lew
On 24 May 2007 08:15:00 -0700, GROVER <[email protected]>
wrote:
...
>TANSTAFL There ain't no such thing as a free lunch
...
Already been mentioned that it's actually TANSTAAFL. Might be nice to
credit Robert A. Heinlein for coining the term in his novel, "The Moon
is a Harsh Mistress".
On 24 May 2007 08:15:00 -0700, GROVER <[email protected]>
wrote:
> ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>
>
>The following list was posted several years ago, so it's probably
>worth repeating it for those who came later. It's not an exhaustive
>list, probably the tip of the iceberg, but you get what you pay for.
>No claims are made for its accuracy or political correctness.
>
SNIP
>Yellow tools Tools made by DeWalt
>YMMV disclaimer (Your milage may vary)
I always thought that "yellow tools" were those that belonged to JOAT
and had not been "borrowed" by his kids.
Dave Hall
GROVER <[email protected]> wrote:
> ACRONYMS & SLANG FOR REC WOODWORKING
>KD Kiln dried
Or knock-down, depending on context.
FIL, MIL, BIL, SIL the in laws
>SWMBO She who must be obeyed (aka a wife)
Also LOML (love of my life)
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.
On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:36:41 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
> Iwas at a science fiction convention in Chicago once,
Did you play D&D? <G>
If you need to list these common items for folks who do NOT know these
things, you should probably include some emoticons as well. After all, a
proper understanding (and use) of emoticons can prevent some flame wars.
Maybe we need some kinda nerd version of Smoky Bear. (Only you can prevent
flame wars)
LRod wrote:
>
> Maybe it's not the same as the old days, and the chief practitioner
> has wandered away, but at one time it was quite common to supplement
> any word which has an alternative Canuckistani spelling with a
> parenthetical rendering of that spelling including an aside to David
> (as in David Eisan, now, unfortunately, an infrequent visitor, but at
> one time perhaps the most successful fisherman on the wreck). e.g.
> "that's a nice color (colour, David)."
>
> You can check (cheque, David) with other regulars on that.
>
>
SOB! I miss that guy. :-(
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
"LRod" wrote in message
>
> Once it eventually became available east of the river, I tried it
> again with the same result. There is no Coors heavy. There's Coors
> (translate to "Coors Lite") and then there's Coors Lite, which as I
> say, is redundant. They could have perfectly described their
> tasteless, body-less "light" offering just by saying Coors.
Yabbut, you just never had to drink Pearl, or else! ;)
Brings to mind an old post:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.woodworking/browse_frm/thread/bc71c1198cabe13d/5167c08298805988?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1#5167c08298805988
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/20/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Fri, 25 May 2007 17:43:17 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, duckecho@gmail-dot-com wrote:
>>Nummienums? Please. I recall the days when I was living in Illinois
>>(where we had to put up with Stroh's and Falstaff)
>
>Don't forget Rhinelander -- worst beer _by_far_ that I have ever tasted.
Hamms did it for me.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:36:41 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
>> Iwas at a science fiction convention in Chicago once,
>
> Did you play D&D? <G>
I did/still do. And for those in the Philly area there was Piels and
Ortliebs. Two proven stomach lining and paint removers.
--
"Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes
balls to get old!"
On 25 May 2007 08:25:53 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>On May 25, 10:16 am, LRod <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 25 May 2007 05:55:24 -0700, RayV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Coors Light
>>
>> Isn't that redundant?
>>
>> --
>LOL...but try to think of Coors Heavy. Nummienums...all that flavour!
>*rubbing my tummy and drooling in anticipation!*
Nummienums? Please. I recall the days when I was living in Illinois
(where we had to put up with Stroh's and Falstaff) and Coors was
legendary there. It was never sold east of the Mississippi in those
days, and I guess that must have made it seem mystical. However, when
I made my first trip to Denver and tried one out I thought, "what the
hell is the fuss about? This is like flavored water."
Once it eventually became available east of the river, I tried it
again with the same result. There is no Coors heavy. There's Coors
(translate to "Coors Lite") and then there's Coors Lite, which as I
say, is redundant. They could have perfectly described their
tasteless, body-less "light" offering just by saying Coors.
>Is this Friday?
Yes.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.