Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
> Does anybody out there work much with redgum? There's a sawyer
> down in Southern Maryland who has a lot of it. I've notice that
> a lot of the redgums around here are getting sick and dying and
> have al ot of fungus growing on them so I figure there
> must be a lot of spalted wood in them.
Not yet, who anre where's the sawyer? S MD isn't too far a drive
for some neat wood.
Dave in Fairfax
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Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
Maryland Forest Products in Nanjemoy, MD, on the Potomac.
Thanks, I check them out as soon as I can manage it.
Dave in Fairfax
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Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
same old same old. you really are in a rut.
dave
Tom Watson wrote:
> On Wed, 05 May 2004 02:51:53 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>More egomaniacal claptrap from he who thinks he is a shrink.
>> All that has shrunk is the portion of your brain that
>>controls impulse posting to "attempt" to bait me. I'm not
>>biting, Tommy WasteOne. Go back to limericks. Those were
>>pretty good from time to time.
>>
>
>
>
> http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/dsm-iv.html
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Tom.
>
> Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
> tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
anything you can do to make them stop? :) That would be
fine with me! It's always amazed me that the miscreants keep
writing that I want attention. If that's the case why do I
not care when the miscreant crowd plonks me. That's my
PREFERENCE. sheesh!
dav
dave
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Tue, 04 May 2004 22:32:03 -0400, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 May 2004 02:30:41 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>><more crap>
>>
>>From DSM IV
>>
>>"Bipolar I: For a diagnosis of Bipolar I disorder, a person must have
>>at least one manic episode. Mania is sometimes referred to as the
>
>
> Boy, lots of troll-feeding going on. I'm sure he's enjoying the attention.
>
On Tue, 04 May 2004 02:30:41 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
wrote:
<more crap>
From DSM IV
"Bipolar I: For a diagnosis of Bipolar I disorder, a person must have
at least one manic episode. Mania is sometimes referred to as the
other extreme to depression. Mania is an intense high where the person
feels euphoric, almost indestructible in areas such as personal
finances, business dealings, or relationships. They may have an
elevated self-esteem, be more talkative than usual, have flight of
ideas, a reduced need for sleep, and be easily distracted. The high,
although it may sound appealing, will often lead to severe
difficulties in these areas, such as spending much more money than
intended, making extremely rash business and personal decisions,
involvement in dangerous sexual behavior, and/or the use of drugs or
alcohol. Depression is often experienced as the high quickly fades and
as the consequences of their activities becomes apparent, the
depressive episode can be exacerbated."
Regards,
Tom.
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> All that has shrunk is the portion of your brain that
> controls impulse posting to "attempt" to bait me.
You just bit, IDIOT!
P.S. Fuck Off
On Tue, 04 May 2004 22:32:03 -0400, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 04 May 2004 02:30:41 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
><more crap>
>
> From DSM IV
>
> "Bipolar I: For a diagnosis of Bipolar I disorder, a person must have
> at least one manic episode. Mania is sometimes referred to as the
Boy, lots of troll-feeding going on. I'm sure he's enjoying the attention.
More egomaniacal claptrap from he who thinks he is a shrink.
All that has shrunk is the portion of your brain that
controls impulse posting to "attempt" to bait me. I'm not
biting, Tommy WasteOne. Go back to limericks. Those were
pretty good from time to time.
dave
Tom Watson wrote:
> On Tue, 04 May 2004 02:30:41 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> <more crap>
>
> From DSM IV
>
> "Bipolar I: For a diagnosis of Bipolar I disorder, a person must have
> at least one manic episode. Mania is sometimes referred to as the
> other extreme to depression. Mania is an intense high where the person
> feels euphoric, almost indestructible in areas such as personal
> finances, business dealings, or relationships. They may have an
> elevated self-esteem, be more talkative than usual, have flight of
> ideas, a reduced need for sleep, and be easily distracted. The high,
> although it may sound appealing, will often lead to severe
> difficulties in these areas, such as spending much more money than
> intended, making extremely rash business and personal decisions,
> involvement in dangerous sexual behavior, and/or the use of drugs or
> alcohol. Depression is often experienced as the high quickly fades and
> as the consequences of their activities becomes apparent, the
> depressive episode can be exacerbated."
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Tom.
>
> Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
> tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
Not the redgum from Oz but the tree with the star-haped leaves
that looks like a sweetgum until Fall when the leaves turn deep
purple.
Does anybody out there work much with redgum? There's a sawyer
down in Southern Maryland who has a lot of it. I've notice that
a lot of the redgums around here are getting sick and dying and
have al ot of fungus growing on them so I figure there
must be a lot of spalted wood in them.
--
FF
Red The Red Shirt asks:
>
>Does anybody out there work much with redgum? There's a sawyer
>down in Southern Maryland who has a lot of it. I've notice that
>a lot of the redgums around here are getting sick and dying and
>have al ot of fungus growing on them so I figure there
>must be a lot of spalted wood in them.
Can't help you with the spalted wood, but you might consider the following:
"Ribbon stripes are common because of the interlocked grain, which makes the
wood mildly hard to work (it will knock the edges off your non-carbide tools
fairly quickly, but otherwise it works very well), but exceptionally beautiful.
Texture is uniform, wide boards are available, the wood is strong and stiff,
there is no problem with splitting, glues work well, it holds detail at the
edges (edges stay nice and sharp unless you really want to round them). It does
not steam bend well, but overall red gum is a fantastic wood that is seldom
used by hobby woodworkers."
Quoting myself there. In other words, go for it.
Charlie Self
"Don't let yesterday use up too much of today." Will Rogers
dave in fairfax <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
> > ... I've notice that
> > a lot of the redgums around here are getting sick and dying and
> > have a lot of fungus growing on them so I figure there
> > must be a lot of spalted wood in them.
>
> Not yet, who anre where's the sawyer? S MD isn't too far a drive
> for some neat wood.
> Dave in Fairfax
Maryland Forest Products in Nanjemoy, MD, on the Potomac.
--
FF
This whole thing has turned into another name-calling and pissing contest.
Let's call it off, hose down the playground, and get back to work.
Bob
"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I swear they told me to go and fuck m*s*lf.
>
> I'm telling you they did.
>
> UA100
seems YOUR writer has resorted to re-runs. Just how much
mileage did he expect from a few kernels of corn, Tommy-Boy?
Keeter's got him a new writer; now it's time for you to
pony up and get some new talent. The current writer is way
past his prime.
dave
Tom Watson wrote:
> On Mon, 03 May 2004 16:19:41 -0500, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I swear they told me to go and fuck m*s*lf.
>>
>>I'm telling you they did.
>>
>>UA100
>
>
>
> "Sitting by the stream
> Corn encrusted poo floats by
> Bay Area Dave"
>
> (this haiku by c. potts is da bombe)
>
>
> Regards,
> Tom.
>
> Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
> tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Do any of you guys have a life?
>
John,
Living solely for happiness - avarice - is wrong. Not in the moral sense -
many great things have been achieved through greed. I am speaking here not
only of the "base" desires that led to the invention of fire, but more
refined desires, such as the desire for freedom, the desire for knowledge,
even the desire for higher intelligence. The only reason to do a thing is
because it is right. There is no end which we ought to pursue even if we
knew it to be wrong. Living for happiness is wrong in the logical sense -
whether avarice walks paths that are noble or mean, it is a sign of a
disorganized philosophy. Goals have to be justified.
The second theory might be called "confusion" - roughly, the belief that we
can't really be certain what's going on, because the human species isn't
smart enough to Figure It All Out. Confusion is the simplest of all
philosophies, and the most durable. It is the one that assumes the least;
by Occam's Razor, the strongest. Confusion is the underpinning of altruism
and the last refuge of a Singularitarian under fire. Avarice shades into
confusion through the hope that a superintelligence will explain things to
you; confusion shades into altruism through the hopes that a
superintelligence will know and do, whether or not it chooses to explain.
Altruism supplies direction. Altruism can provide a full, logical
justification for a course of action. The price of that is the loss of
simplicity. Only altruism qualifies as a genuine Meaning of Life Altruism
is the simplest explanation that relates choices to reality; confusion is
the simplest explanation that relates choices to mind.
You should get up in the morning because you will make the Universe a better
place. Or rather, you will make it more likely that humanity's successors
will make it a better place. Same cause-and-effect relation; the length of
the chain of events doesn't matter.
Oh wait - you're another WebTV user?
Sorry. Here's yours:
John,
F**k off.
mttt responds:
>
>"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> Do any of you guys have a life?
>>
>
>John,
>Living solely for happiness - avarice - is wrong. Not in the moral sense -
>many great things have been achieved through greed. I am speaking here not
>only of the "base" desires that led to the invention of fire, but more
>refined desires, such as the desire for freedom, the desire for knowledge,
>even the desire for higher intelligence. The only reason to do a thing is
>because it is right. There is no end which we ought to pursue even if we
>knew it to be wrong. Living for happiness is wrong in the logical sense -
>whether avarice walks paths that are noble or mean, it is a sign of a
>disorganized philosophy. Goals have to be justified.
>
>The second theory might be called "confusion" - roughly, the belief that we
>can't really be certain what's going on, because the human species isn't
>smart enough to Figure It All Out. Confusion is the simplest of all
>philosophies, and the most durable. It is the one that assumes the least;
>by Occam's Razor, the strongest. Confusion is the underpinning of altruism
>and the last refuge of a Singularitarian under fire. Avarice shades into
>confusion through the hope that a superintelligence will explain things to
>you; confusion shades into altruism through the hopes that a
>superintelligence will know and do, whether or not it chooses to explain.
>
>Altruism supplies direction. Altruism can provide a full, logical
>justification for a course of action. The price of that is the loss of
>simplicity. Only altruism qualifies as a genuine Meaning of Life Altruism
>is the simplest explanation that relates choices to reality; confusion is
>the simplest explanation that relates choices to mind.
>
>
>You should get up in the morning because you will make the Universe a better
>place. Or rather, you will make it more likely that humanity's successors
>will make it a better place. Same cause-and-effect relation; the length of
>the chain of events doesn't matter.
>
>
>
>Oh wait - you're another WebTV user?
>
>Sorry. Here's yours:
>
>John,
>
>F**k off.
>
I love it.
Except some web tv users are intelligent. Course that's probably what the
Martians said when they first landed on earth: Some of them are sentient. Then
they took a few of our cats and left.
Charlie Self
"The lust of avarice as so totally seized upon mankind that their wealth seems
rather to possess them than they possess their wealth." Pliny
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Except some web tv users are intelligent. Course that's probably what the
> Martians said when they first landed on earth: Some of them are sentient. Then
> they took a few of our cats and left.
>
Or, as Shaw said, "intelligence is an experiment that failed."
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Well, mttt, you got me. I use webtv by choice, while sitting six feet
> from my computer. I can skim through the latest 1500 posts to this NG in
> a matter of minutes. Can you do that? You do a lot of talking to show
> that you are also a man (?) of word.
>
<sigh>
Last post from me on this subject. Have you been here long? There's a long
running, fairly amusing thread about WebTV users. Kind'a like we used to
poke fun @ AO Lusers. Second, your post and mine were quite similar in that
neither added any value to the 'net. I just used up a few more bytes on a
sector on a hard drive. Not sure what enticed you into a reply on this
thread, especially a "get a life" rejoinder that I haven't heard in quite
some time. Third, I don't know whether I'm able (capable) of skimming
through 1500 posts in a matter of minutes but I'm pretty sure I don't want
the ability. Fourth, when UA100, TW or CS post, I *always* read them, and I
usually enjoy them. Finally, are you unsure of the spelling of "man" or are
you wondering about whether I have 2 X's or an XY pair? [ Can't keep
"gender" and "sex" straight, so I prefer to drop [to] the genes. ]
Gothumbs babbles:
>
> Well mttt I use web tv by choice. Yes I do have a puter. You must
>have a problem with an inferiority complex. I sure hope you seek help
>soon. By the way, mine IS bigger than yours.
>
You sure as hell aren't talking about IQs.
Charlie Self
"Don't let yesterday use up too much of today." Will Rogers
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Gothumbs babbles:
>
> >
> > Well mttt I use web tv by choice. Yes I do have a puter. You must
> >have a problem with an inferiority complex. I sure hope you seek help
> >soon. By the way, mine IS bigger than yours.
> >
>
> You sure as hell aren't talking about IQs.
Charlie,
DFTT!
Having nothing better to do this morning after getting ready for church,
I just got curious, so spent a little *giggle* time. Mr. Thumbs apparently
has made a total of 16 posts to Usenet in the last 5 yr., first to
alt.homerepair, and then to the wRECk, not prolific in either arena.
However, his last 4 posts have been in the last week or so, 1 to
congratulate someone on their shop, the other 3 to rant & rave about you,
TW, other regulars on the group, or what he calls the "in" crowd, and
apparently to commiserate with BAD. Seems like Thumbs, BAD, the Dizum dodo
and some others, all lumped into TWSRUN, are about the same caliber people
we used to put up with in CB radio. They figured they could spew whatever
filth they felt like because they were hiding behind the anonymity of the
microphone, while the new ones think they can hide behind the anonymity of
the net.
I don't remember right this instant exactly who said what, BUT - - there
were comments made about people being on the public tit, as if anyone using
the 'net has no job or life otherwise. WRONG!!! There are some on the wRECk
who are retired, disabled, etc., but for the one who was complaining about
them living off *his* paycheck, just remember something - most of those you
seem to hold in such disdain (including me) have had long productive
careers, and worked damned hard all our lives! When you've expended the time
& effort & experience we have, then you will have the right to complain
about how we live, until then, just SHUT UP!
I find it difficult to believe any of them have ever read Davy Eisan's
mini-FAQ about our group being like a bunch of guys gathered around the
coffee pot BSing about ww'ing and whatever else comes to mind. We joke, pick
on each other, pick on newbies, make them *work* a little to be accepted,
but still try to answer their questions. Occasionally, in ANY group, someone
will show up who is just an irritating A**HOLE, who for some reason cannot
seem to get along with anyone, who continually spouts inane, assinine
blather that does nothing except aggravate people. Sometimes these people
are easily identified TROLLS, other times they are as above, irritating
A**HOLES, which in some ways are harder to put up with than trolls, because
they don't quite fit the troll mold, but display a lot of the same
characteristics, yet you want to try and be kind to them, until you've been
s**t on enough times that you don't care any more, then they join the
killfile or TWSRUN.
Well, I think I've wasted enough webspace for today. Rant/off.
--
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Nahmie notes:
> I don't remember right this instant exactly who said what, BUT - - there
>were comments made about people being on the public tit, as if anyone using
>the 'net has no job or life otherwise. WRONG!!! There are some on the wRECk
>who are retired, disabled, etc., but for the one who was complaining about
>them living off *his* paycheck, just remember something - most of those you
>seem to hold in such disdain (including me) have had long productive
>careers, and worked damned hard all our lives! When you've expended the time
>& effort & experience we have, then you will have the right to complain
>about how we live, until then, just SHUT UP!
There are people who are disabled and who woodwork and who post. I guess they
draw checks of some kind or another--SSI? What the hell does Mr. Thumbs think
they should do? Shut up and die? I work full time (well, sort of: this year,
I've been going something like 60-70 hours a week to repair damage to my
business caused by my attempt to "go corporate"), so his insistance that we
"get a life" finds me without the time to look for one.
His telling Tom to act like a pro is laughable. This guy should know some of
the pro woodworkers I've known! Tom is super mild, a really sweet guy (Jaysus,
am I going to catch it for that one!).
> I find it difficult to believe any of them have ever read Davy Eisan's
>mini-FAQ about our group being like a bunch of guys gathered around the
>coffee pot BSing about ww'ing and whatever else comes to mind. We joke, pick
>on each other, pick on newbies, make them *work* a little to be accepted,
>but still try to answer their questions.
Yeah, and that's one of the best parts of this NG. Anyone who is truly
interested in woodworking is welcome to become one of the "regulars".
Regardless of what Mr. Thumb thinks, there is no absolute requirement that they
be on the "public tit". A full-time job is acceptable. But it is also not
demanded. Part-time works. Housewives and househusbands are also welcome. Is
househusbands one word?
My contribution to wasted web space.
Charlie Self
"In our civilization, and under our republican form of government, intelligence
is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of
office." Ambrose Bierce
John, can you give me the short version of MTTT's long
winded post? I couldn't get past the first paragraph...
did it make any sense or was he in a fugue state again?
dave
John wrote:
> Well, mttt, you got me. I use webtv by choice, while sitting six feet
> from my computer. I can skim through the latest 1500 posts to this NG in
> a matter of minutes. Can you do that? You do a lot of talking to show
> that you are also a man (?) of word.
>
John, the weather is GREAT! It's been in the 80's and 90's
lately. Several days of hot weather broke all time records
about 2 weeks ago.
I lived in Novato and Petaluma (Chickentuma <g>) back in the
70's. What a great area of the Bay Area. If I could afford
it, I'd move back up there.
Three for a dollar? That's before I bought any! :)
Where are you at now?
dave
John wrote:
> Sorry, Dave. Didn't get very far myself. It was like he was doing the
> spray paint in a paper bag thing. How's the weather? Lived 16 years in
> Sebastopol. Enjoyed the predictable weather, and remember at one time
> (it's been a while) buying 8 foot redwood 2x4s at three for a dollar.
>
Hey Dave, in Arkansas now, surrounded by pine and red oak. Used to fly
in and out of the old Marin Co. (grass) and new airport, also Petaluma,
Santa Rosa and all the Bay area airports, and seaplanes at Sausalito.
Lots of fun but all good things must come to an end.
Re: this NG. Remember, you are swimming with sharks.
John, I never flew a seaplane. Never even BEEN in a
seaplane. All my flying was done out of Reid Hillview and
San Jose Airport. and I did a few cross wind landings at a
tiny airfield south of San Jose. Can't remember it's name.
No control tower, potholes everywhere and WINDY as hell.
thanks for the reminder. :)
dave
John wrote:
> Hey Dave, in Arkansas now, surrounded by pine and red oak. Used to fly
> in and out of the old Marin Co. (grass) and new airport, also Petaluma,
> Santa Rosa and all the Bay area airports, and seaplanes at Sausalito.
> Lots of fun but all good things must come to an end.
>
> Re: this NG. Remember, you are swimming with sharks.
>
On Wed, 05 May 2004 02:51:53 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
wrote:
>More egomaniacal claptrap from he who thinks he is a shrink.
> All that has shrunk is the portion of your brain that
>controls impulse posting to "attempt" to bait me. I'm not
>biting, Tommy WasteOne. Go back to limericks. Those were
>pretty good from time to time.
>
http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/dsm-iv.html
Regards,
Tom.
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
Gothumbs blurts:
>Hey Tom, If you don't like this group, why don't you start your own?
>Would anyone come? You're suposely a pro woodworker, why not act like
>one? Do some woodworking instead of talking trash.
Probably not more than 3-4 Toms on here.
Why are you on here insulting people instead of out playing with your wood?
Charlie Self
"Don't let yesterday use up too much of today." Will Rogers
On Mon, 03 May 2004 16:19:41 -0500, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I swear they told me to go and fuck m*s*lf.
>
>I'm telling you they did.
>
>UA100
"Sitting by the stream
Corn encrusted poo floats by
Bay Area Dave"
(this haiku by c. potts is da bombe)
Regards,
Tom.
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1