OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander to
get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
speed):
Porter-Cable 333VS
Bosch 1295DVSK
Makita BO5012K (new)
I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
Anyway...any help is appreciated!
How important do you feel the VS is in a ROS ??
thanks,
Ed Angell
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just used the Makita for the first time last night. 10-minute test on
> poplar with 3 different grits:
>
> As compared to my old 1.7 amp non VS Makita of which I was very fond,
here
> are my impressions.
>
> 1. Shape: same height and weight (light), but the top is just a tab wider
> and less convex than the prior model. It did not fit my hand quite as
well.
> But I have smallish hands.
>
> 2. Vibration-Very good. noticeably less than the old one.
>
> 3. Aggressiveness - I was not overwhelmed but it was only a 10-minute test
> and I was using a different brand of paper than usual. I would have to say
> that the test was a bit inconclusive, but the rating is still "perfectly
> adequate but nothing to write home about"
>
> 4. H&L - *very* grippy... maybe it's just new, but I the hooks look
> different to me
>
> 5. Dust collection - I had low expectations and they were exceeded. The
> baggy got maybe 3/4 of the dust (tough to judge). The weak point as I
could
> tell was the elastic connection between the baggie and the connector. A
fine
> mist of dust was "blowing out of the seam. It appears that this little
beast
> actually creates a bit of air-flow.
>
> Conclusion: If I could touch the competition before-hand, I would. But I
> couldn't and didn't. Since I put a premium on weight as a criteria, I
think
> I made the right choice *for me*.
>
> Steve
>
> "superlast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander to
> > get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
> > speed):
> >
> > Porter-Cable 333VS
> > Bosch 1295DVSK
> > Makita BO5012K (new)
> >
> > I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
> > motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
> > Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
> >
> > Anyway...any help is appreciated!
>
>
I have about a half dozen of each.
The Bosches last the longest.
The Dewalts are the worst.
"superlast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander to
> get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
> speed):
>
> Porter-Cable 333VS
> Bosch 1295DVSK
> Makita BO5012K (new)
>
> I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
> motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
> Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
>
> Anyway...any help is appreciated!
"superlast" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Preston...after doing some research in the newsgroups +
> amazon.com....the Porter 333 seems to have a problem with the motor
> burning out + a little more "problems" than the Makita or Bosch. Don't
> know if it's that model only, but fortunately the Porter 333VS has
> actually got good reviews.....that's why I'm stumped. There's not much
> reviews for the Bosch's and nothing really on the new Makita, but my
> gut feeling is either Makita or Bosch. I just want to purchase a tool
> for under $100.00 that will last me a long time. It's only for home
> use, so I just want to make a smart decision. I don't own any power
> tools from either of the 3 brands, but historically...all 3 are good
> brands, but the Porter being the better priced probably than the other
> 2.
>
> > I am curious what the motor problems are that you refer to?
> >
> > Preston
Good luck,
I treat power tools, especially sanders, under $100.00 as a through
away tool. It works till it stops, through it away, and buy a new
one. I wish I could tell you different, but sanders are an usuable
product. A power tool that sells for less than $100.00 does not have a
very long life in a shop like mine than uses it every day.
Mike
I won't be using the tool everyday, Mike...only on weekends and even
then it won't be non-stop sanding....10-15 minutes here and there and
that's it. So...I'd like to consider it as a "consumable" item, but
for what I'll use it for and as often as I'll use it...I really
can't....it's more of an "asset" to me.
I'm sure all 3 brands are decent...I just need something to push me
over the hill on whichever brand. I don't have any experience with any
of the 3 brands...so that doesn't help. Cost is not a major
concern...no problem paying $20.00 difference on one brand over the
other...
Cheers....
> I treat power tools, especially sanders, under $100.00 as a through
> away tool. It works till it stops, through it away, and buy a new
> one. I wish I could tell you different, but sanders are an usuable
> product. A power tool that sells for less than $100.00 does not have a
> very long life in a shop like mine than uses it every day.
> Mike
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:39:27 GMT, "Ed Angell" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >How important do you feel the VS is in a ROS ??
> >thanks,
> >
> >Ed Angell
>
>
> essential.
>>>>> Tell me more !!
Thank you, that put it in perspective.
Ed Angell
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> >How important do you feel the VS is in a ROS ??
> >> >thanks,
> >> >
> >> >Ed Angell
> >>
> >>
> >> essential.
> >
> >>>>>> Tell me more !!
> >
>
>
>
>
> a single speed ROS would be fine in a production setting where flat
> surfaces only were being sanded and the conditions were controlled-
> always the same abrasive, always the same material with the same
> veneer thickness, etc.
>
> the variable speed allows you to slow way down for applications where
> the pad only makes partial contact- like on curved surfaces. at full
> speed it would do significant damage to a curve, but slowed all of the
> way down you can use it to sand roundovers and fair in parts that need
> a delicate touch.
>
> when you are dealing with thin veneers it is useful to be able to slow
> the ROS down to gain control of stock removal. it's easy to burn
> through at full speed.
buy the one that feels best in your hand. in the end, you gotta use the
thing.
randy
"superlast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander to
> get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
> speed):
>
> Porter-Cable 333VS
> Bosch 1295DVSK
> Makita BO5012K (new)
>
> I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
> motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
> Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
>
> Anyway...any help is appreciated!
I just used the Makita for the first time last night. 10-minute test on
poplar with 3 different grits:
As compared to my old 1.7 amp non VS Makita of which I was very fond, here
are my impressions.
1. Shape: same height and weight (light), but the top is just a tab wider
and less convex than the prior model. It did not fit my hand quite as well.
But I have smallish hands.
2. Vibration-Very good. noticeably less than the old one.
3. Aggressiveness - I was not overwhelmed but it was only a 10-minute test
and I was using a different brand of paper than usual. I would have to say
that the test was a bit inconclusive, but the rating is still "perfectly
adequate but nothing to write home about"
4. H&L - *very* grippy... maybe it's just new, but I the hooks look
different to me
5. Dust collection - I had low expectations and they were exceeded. The
baggy got maybe 3/4 of the dust (tough to judge). The weak point as I could
tell was the elastic connection between the baggie and the connector. A fine
mist of dust was "blowing out of the seam. It appears that this little beast
actually creates a bit of air-flow.
Conclusion: If I could touch the competition before-hand, I would. But I
couldn't and didn't. Since I put a premium on weight as a criteria, I think
I made the right choice *for me*.
Steve
"superlast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander to
> get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
> speed):
>
> Porter-Cable 333VS
> Bosch 1295DVSK
> Makita BO5012K (new)
>
> I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
> motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
> Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
>
> Anyway...any help is appreciated!
Frankly,
I haven't a clue. I thought that since I was buying I might as well move a
bit "up-market". I suspect that it might be handy when sanding between coats
if finish when I want a really light pass.
Only time will tell if I actually use the feature.
-Steve
"Ed Angell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3J_zc.31611$Hg2.22674@attbi_s04...
> How important do you feel the VS is in a ROS ??
> thanks,
>
> Ed Angell
>
> "Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I just used the Makita for the first time last night. 10-minute test on
> > poplar with 3 different grits:
> >
> > As compared to my old 1.7 amp non VS Makita of which I was very fond,
> here
> > are my impressions.
> >
> > 1. Shape: same height and weight (light), but the top is just a tab
wider
> > and less convex than the prior model. It did not fit my hand quite as
> well.
> > But I have smallish hands.
> >
> > 2. Vibration-Very good. noticeably less than the old one.
> >
> > 3. Aggressiveness - I was not overwhelmed but it was only a 10-minute
test
> > and I was using a different brand of paper than usual. I would have to
say
> > that the test was a bit inconclusive, but the rating is still
"perfectly
> > adequate but nothing to write home about"
> >
> > 4. H&L - *very* grippy... maybe it's just new, but I the hooks look
> > different to me
> >
> > 5. Dust collection - I had low expectations and they were exceeded. The
> > baggy got maybe 3/4 of the dust (tough to judge). The weak point as I
> could
> > tell was the elastic connection between the baggie and the connector. A
> fine
> > mist of dust was "blowing out of the seam. It appears that this little
> beast
> > actually creates a bit of air-flow.
> >
> > Conclusion: If I could touch the competition before-hand, I would. But I
> > couldn't and didn't. Since I put a premium on weight as a criteria, I
> think
> > I made the right choice *for me*.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > "superlast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander
to
> > > get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
> > > speed):
> > >
> > > Porter-Cable 333VS
> > > Bosch 1295DVSK
> > > Makita BO5012K (new)
> > >
> > > I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
> > > motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
> > > Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
> > >
> > > Anyway...any help is appreciated!
> >
> >
>
>
I have the Bosch 3107DVS which does include variable speed to adjust
some of its aggression. It does come in a cardboard box, which might
be adequate for home use. I like it very much, it has done all that I
asked it to do. It was more than $100 as I recall. Its aggression was
controlled by going to a finer grit.
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:37:17 GMT, "superlast" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander to
>get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
>speed):
>
>Porter-Cable 333VS
>Bosch 1295DVSK
>Makita BO5012K (new)
>
>I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
>motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
>Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
>
>Anyway...any help is appreciated!
In article <[email protected]>,
superlast <[email protected]> wrote:
>OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander to
>get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
>speed):
>
>Porter-Cable 333VS
>Bosch 1295DVSK
>Makita BO5012K (new)
>
>I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
>motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
>Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
>
>Anyway...any help is appreciated!
When in doubt, get one of _each_!
That way you're *sure* to have the best choice. <evil grin>
(and a spare or two, if it breaks.)
"superlast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Preston...after doing some research in the newsgroups +
> amazon.com....the Porter 333 seems to have a problem with the motor
> burning out + a little more "problems" than the Makita or Bosch. Don't
> know if it's that model only, but fortunately the Porter 333VS has
> actually got good reviews.....that's why I'm stumped.
It may have more posted problems because their are many more of them out
there. Sort of like saying 1,000,000 Chevy's needed new tires last month
while only 100 Ferraris did. Therefore,, Ferraris have less tire problems.
Ed
Preston...after doing some research in the newsgroups +
amazon.com....the Porter 333 seems to have a problem with the motor
burning out + a little more "problems" than the Makita or Bosch. Don't
know if it's that model only, but fortunately the Porter 333VS has
actually got good reviews.....that's why I'm stumped. There's not much
reviews for the Bosch's and nothing really on the new Makita, but my
gut feeling is either Makita or Bosch. I just want to purchase a tool
for under $100.00 that will last me a long time. It's only for home
use, so I just want to make a smart decision. I don't own any power
tools from either of the 3 brands, but historically...all 3 are good
brands, but the Porter being the better priced probably than the other
2.
> I am curious what the motor problems are that you refer to?
>
> Preston
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:39:27 GMT, "Ed Angell" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>How important do you feel the VS is in a ROS ??
>thanks,
>
>Ed Angell
essential.
>>
>> >How important do you feel the VS is in a ROS ??
>> >thanks,
>> >
>> >Ed Angell
>>
>>
>> essential.
>
>>>>>> Tell me more !!
>
a single speed ROS would be fine in a production setting where flat
surfaces only were being sanded and the conditions were controlled-
always the same abrasive, always the same material with the same
veneer thickness, etc.
the variable speed allows you to slow way down for applications where
the pad only makes partial contact- like on curved surfaces. at full
speed it would do significant damage to a curve, but slowed all of the
way down you can use it to sand roundovers and fair in parts that need
a delicate touch.
when you are dealing with thin veneers it is useful to be able to slow
the ROS down to gain control of stock removal. it's easy to burn
through at full speed.
I am curious what the motor problems are that you refer to?
Preston
"superlast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander to
> get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
> speed):
>
> Porter-Cable 333VS
> Bosch 1295DVSK
> Makita BO5012K (new)
>
> I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
> motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
> Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
>
> Anyway...any help is appreciated!
unfortunately the Makita and Bosch's are not available locally...only
online. Of course, I went by Home Depot & Lowe's and held the Porter
333....that's feels fine, but they don't carry the other brands...which
is wierd as they carry their other tools. Didn't really care for the
Dewalt...
> buy the one that feels best in your hand. in the end, you gotta use
> the thing.
>
> randy
superlast wrote:
> OK fellas....I'm stuck and can't decide on which random orbit sander to
> get. I've whittled it down to the following sanders (all variable
> speed):
>
> Porter-Cable 333VS
> Bosch 1295DVSK
> Makita BO5012K (new)
>
> I'm sort of leaning towards the Makita as the Porter's seem to have
> motor problems and I've read the Bosch's are real aggressive + the
> Makita (and Bosch) come with cases.
The June 2004 issue of Workbench rated 6" random orbital sanders. On the
strength of that, I ended up with the Ridgid R-2610 for $149 at the Borg. Very
nice.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com