Hi,
Speaking of HD(American) and Rona(Canadian, Beaver>Revy>Rona), prices
are often better at HD for identical item.
Tony
[email protected] wrote:
> On 22 Oct 2003 20:34:34 GMT, [email protected] (Chris Lewis) wrote:
>
>
>>According to <[email protected]>:
>>
>>
>>>Well in Canada the biggest downside is Home Depot has an exclusive on it.
>>>Can't buy it anywhere else.
>>
>>What!!???
>>
>
>
>
>>I've bought the stuff from Beaver, and I'm pretty sure the catalogs for
>>several other chains (like Home Hardware) show it.
>>
>>Roxul is made in Guelph, Ontario and Grand Forks BC.
>>
>>For Ontario, their web site says:
>>
>
> I'm in BC.
> http://199.202.236.133/canada/where_to_buy_details.asp?prov=1&type=Retail
>
>
>>"Available through all retail building supply dealers."
>>
>>Oh, I see, it looks as if Manitoba and westwards are HD only for retail.
>>
>>
>>>BUT it's almost 30% cheaper than buying the pink with a higher R value too
>>>boot!
>>
>>That's largely a matter of spot market demand. I've seen the cost comparison
>>go either way.
>>
>>
>>>I think I can live with the down sides if Home Depot ever gets it in in
>>>24x6 batts. Supposed to be in stock by the end of the month.
>>
>>Beaver has carried that for _years_. Not exactly a new product.
>
>
On 21 Oct 2003 16:14:01 GMT, [email protected] (Chris Lewis) wrote:
>According to <[email protected]>:
>> It seems to be great. Cheaper than Pink, more R value, better sound
>> proofing. I'm in Canada but here is the USA site.
>> http://199.202.236.133/usa/english.asp
>
>It _is_ great.
>
>There's only two ways it's not as good as fiberglass:
>
>1) You can't buy it in "handi-packs" or rolls, so, it can be a
>major annoyance if you're just doing small jobs. Only full size
>bags of batts - which are quite big and heavy compared to fiberglass.
>
>Thus, DIYers tend not to get a good chance to familiarize themselves
>with it on small jobs, and thus don't think to try it on big ones.
>
>Even the guys who blow this stuff into attics buy batts and feed them
>to a chopper/blower.
>
>2) Takes up a lot more room in storage/shipping because it doesn't
>pack as well into bags as fiberglass - so you have more and larger
>bags of Roxul for a given job than you would with fiberglass.
>
>Ie: more trips to the homebuilding store.
>Ie: Always in the way if you're trying to store them inside the building
>you're insulating...
>
>Still, I'll never use fiberglass again...
Well in Canada the biggest downside is Home Depot has an exclusive on it.
Can't buy it anywhere else.
BUT it's almost 30% cheaper than buying the pink with a higher R value too
boot!
I think I can live with the down sides if Home Depot ever gets it in in
24x6 batts. Supposed to be in stock by the end of the month.
On 22 Oct 2003 20:34:34 GMT, [email protected] (Chris Lewis) wrote:
>According to <[email protected]>:
>
>> Well in Canada the biggest downside is Home Depot has an exclusive on it.
>> Can't buy it anywhere else.
>
>What!!???
>
>I've bought the stuff from Beaver, and I'm pretty sure the catalogs for
>several other chains (like Home Hardware) show it.
>
>Roxul is made in Guelph, Ontario and Grand Forks BC.
>
>For Ontario, their web site says:
>
I'm in BC.
http://199.202.236.133/canada/where_to_buy_details.asp?prov=1&type=Retail
>"Available through all retail building supply dealers."
>
>Oh, I see, it looks as if Manitoba and westwards are HD only for retail.
>
>> BUT it's almost 30% cheaper than buying the pink with a higher R value too
>> boot!
>
>That's largely a matter of spot market demand. I've seen the cost comparison
>go either way.
>
>> I think I can live with the down sides if Home Depot ever gets it in in
>> 24x6 batts. Supposed to be in stock by the end of the month.
>
>Beaver has carried that for _years_. Not exactly a new product.
According to <[email protected]>:
> It seems to be great. Cheaper than Pink, more R value, better sound
> proofing. I'm in Canada but here is the USA site.
> http://199.202.236.133/usa/english.asp
It _is_ great.
There's only two ways it's not as good as fiberglass:
1) You can't buy it in "handi-packs" or rolls, so, it can be a
major annoyance if you're just doing small jobs. Only full size
bags of batts - which are quite big and heavy compared to fiberglass.
Thus, DIYers tend not to get a good chance to familiarize themselves
with it on small jobs, and thus don't think to try it on big ones.
Even the guys who blow this stuff into attics buy batts and feed them
to a chopper/blower.
2) Takes up a lot more room in storage/shipping because it doesn't
pack as well into bags as fiberglass - so you have more and larger
bags of Roxul for a given job than you would with fiberglass.
Ie: more trips to the homebuilding store.
Ie: Always in the way if you're trying to store them inside the building
you're insulating...
Still, I'll never use fiberglass again...
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.
According to <[email protected]>:
> Well in Canada the biggest downside is Home Depot has an exclusive on it.
> Can't buy it anywhere else.
What!!???
I've bought the stuff from Beaver, and I'm pretty sure the catalogs for
several other chains (like Home Hardware) show it.
Roxul is made in Guelph, Ontario and Grand Forks BC.
For Ontario, their web site says:
"Available through all retail building supply dealers."
Oh, I see, it looks as if Manitoba and westwards are HD only for retail.
> BUT it's almost 30% cheaper than buying the pink with a higher R value too
> boot!
That's largely a matter of spot market demand. I've seen the cost comparison
go either way.
> I think I can live with the down sides if Home Depot ever gets it in in
> 24x6 batts. Supposed to be in stock by the end of the month.
Beaver has carried that for _years_. Not exactly a new product.
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.
According to Tony Hwang <[email protected]>:
> Hi,
> Speaking of HD(American) and Rona(Canadian, Beaver>Revy>Rona), prices
> are often better at HD for identical item.
Often, certainly, but not always.
HD Canada appears to be run somewhat more at "arms length" from the US
parent than is usual for Canadian divisions of US chains. Ie: entirely
different staff hiring practises. Canadian HD employees tend to know
what they're talking about - eg: the guy in the plumbing section is often
a licensed plumber with lots of experience.[+]
By all reports, US HD employees generally don't (and are as bad as the kids
at Canadian Tire).
[+] A plumber told me that many of his licensed plumber friends part time
at HD to fill in the gaps in their contracts...
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.
Whereas On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:24:45 -0700, [email protected]
scribbled:
, I thus relpy:
>It seems to be great. Cheaper than Pink, more R value, better sound
>proofing. I'm in Canada but here is the USA site.
>http://199.202.236.133/usa/english.asp
We did our kitchen walls with that (but used pink FG in the attic).
--
Gary J. Tait . Email is at yahoo.com ; ID:classicsat