Gs

"Gramps' shop"

24/03/2015 10:43 AM

How to affix a template

I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply template =
on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed. I'm thinking a=
bout a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it for the routing an=
d should be relatively easy to knock off when done, oui? I could also shoo=
t a couple of finishing nails in and fill later. Thoughts?

Larry


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Leon

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

24/03/2015 3:57 PM

On 3/24/2015 12:43 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed. I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when done, oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and fill later. Thoughts?
>
> Larry
>


One more. ;!)

I has to create 12 identical arms. I first cut off the excess with my
BS and then I clamped an MDF template on top of each. I then used a top
bearing 1/2" diameter flush cut bit to cut about 3/16" deep with my trim
router. This provided a smooth ledge for the bigger 1/125" diameter
bottom bearing bit mounted in my router table to follow.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/16731993750/

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

25/03/2015 8:55 AM

On 3/25/2015 8:47 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 3/24/2015 4:57 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 3/24/2015 12:43 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
>>> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply
>>> template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed.
>>> I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it
>>> for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when done,
>>> oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and fill
>>> later. Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>
>>
>> One more. ;!)
>>
>> I has to create 12 identical arms. I first cut off the excess with my
>> BS and then I clamped an MDF template on top of each. I then used a top
>> bearing 1/2" diameter flush cut bit to cut about 3/16" deep with my trim
>> router. This provided a smooth ledge for the bigger 1/125" diameter
>> bottom bearing bit mounted in my router table to follow.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/16731993750/
>
> You just wanted to show off the Festool clamps. And dust collector. Is
> that a Festool *bike* in the corner of the photo? Hell, even the MDF
> looks greenish.


LOL, Guilty.
Actually the mike is an Electra, my wife's.
The green MDF is water resistant, a scrap.
The work bench is, however, Festool. ;~)

Gs

"Gramps' shop"

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

24/03/2015 2:53 PM

On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:43:05 PM UTC-5, Gramps' shop wrote:
> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply templat=
e on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed. I'm thinking=
about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it for the routing =
and should be relatively easy to knock off when done, oui? I could also sh=
oot a couple of finishing nails in and fill later. Thoughts?
>=20
> Larry

Thanks, guys. I elected to use screws as I can easily fill the holes in th=
e piece and they are going to be covered with black latex paint.

wn

woodchucker

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

24/03/2015 6:53 PM

On 3/24/2015 1:43 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed. I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when done, oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and fill later. Thoughts?
>
> Larry
>
double stick carpet tape.
get the good stuff.
I usually control the amount of stick by using my tshirt to block some
of the tackiness. You just touch the tape if it is too tacky to your
tshirt and it usually knocks it down a little.


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Jeff

JM

John McCoy

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

24/03/2015 5:48 PM

"Gramps' shop" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply
> template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed.
> I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it
> for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when done,
> oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and fill
> later. Thoughts?

Double sided carpet tape?

If there's an area that will later be hidden or removed,
the nails, or perhaps better screws, would be most secure.

John

Mm

Markem

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

24/03/2015 2:27 PM

On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:43:03 -0700 (PDT), "Gramps' shop"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed. I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when done, oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and fill later. Thoughts?
>
>Larry

Double sided tape is an option too.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

24/03/2015 1:52 PM

On 3/24/2015 12:43 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed. I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when done, oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and fill later. Thoughts?

Rally depends upon the shape and complexity.

In critical projects, where material is at a premium, I always shy away
from double-sided tape and hot melt glue alone, and try to incorporate
some type of mechanical fastener as well (screws, where any holes will
be hidden; toggle clamps, etc.), similar to the following.

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionChairReproduction2013?noredirect=1#5851593470085447266

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionChairReproduction2013?noredirect=1#5854869020206490178


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"dadiOH"

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

24/03/2015 2:01 PM

Gramps' shop wrote:
> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply
> template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed.
> I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold
> it for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when
> done, oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and
> fill later. Thoughts?
>
> Larry

I use carpet tape, as John suggested. Note: the tape I use is a thin film,
not foam; it is white, maybe two inches wide...3 or 4 pieces 3/4" are
plenty in most cases, even when routing from a template, as long as the
template/work surfaces are flat & smooth.
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in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

24/03/2015 1:56 PM

On 3/24/15 12:43 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply
> template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed.
> I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold
> it for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when
> done, oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and
> fill later. Thoughts?
>
> Larry
>

I use carpet tape with great success.


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Greg Guarino

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

24/03/2015 4:47 PM

On 3/24/2015 1:43 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed. I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when done, oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and fill later. Thoughts?
>
> Larry
>
This worked very nicely for me. Secure, safe, and no adhesive to remove:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gdguarino/14316360681/in/album-72157644207411490/lightbox/

My template was on mdf.

Those are Harbor Freight toggle clamps. I have no experience with any
other brand, but I can detect no obvious flimsiness about them, cheap as
they were.

Hey, there's even a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnU1bJEV9yk

I took some grief here, likely deservedly, for not roughing out the
shape before routing. But the jig worked very nicely.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

25/03/2015 9:47 AM

On 3/24/2015 4:57 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 3/24/2015 12:43 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
>> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply
>> template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed.
>> I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it
>> for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when done,
>> oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and fill
>> later. Thoughts?
>>
>> Larry
>>
>
>
> One more. ;!)
>
> I has to create 12 identical arms. I first cut off the excess with my
> BS and then I clamped an MDF template on top of each. I then used a top
> bearing 1/2" diameter flush cut bit to cut about 3/16" deep with my trim
> router. This provided a smooth ledge for the bigger 1/125" diameter
> bottom bearing bit mounted in my router table to follow.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/16731993750/

You just wanted to show off the Festool clamps. And dust collector. Is
that a Festool *bike* in the corner of the photo? Hell, even the MDF
looks greenish.

Bb

Brewster

in reply to "Gramps' shop" on 24/03/2015 10:43 AM

28/03/2015 7:42 AM

On 3/24/15, 4:53 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 3/24/2015 1:43 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
>> I need to rout a pattern on some 3/4 plywood. I've cut a 3/4 ply
>> template on my BS and need to affix it the part that's being routed.
>> I'm thinking about a couple of dabs of CA glue. That ought to hold it
>> for the routing and should be relatively easy to knock off when done,
>> oui? I could also shoot a couple of finishing nails in and fill
>> later. Thoughts?
>>
>> Larry
>>
> double stick carpet tape.
> get the good stuff.
> I usually control the amount of stick by using my tshirt to block some
> of the tackiness. You just touch the tape if it is too tacky to your
> tshirt and it usually knocks it down a little.
>
>

As stated, screws/clamps if you have the room and/or are a bit paranoid.

For my stuff, I've settled on DS tape. Not just any tape, for me it has
to be the 'film' style, not the mushy foam type or cloth type. I've gone
through dozens of rolls through the years and as typical, as soon as I
run out of one purchase lot, the store no longer carries the same stuff.
This forces me to try a new type, sometimes with better, sometimes with
worse results.

This is the stuff I'm currently using with great results:

http://www.amazon.com/9971-1-88-Inch-10-Yard-Double-Sided-Natural/dp/B000FKH3BY/ref=pd_sim_hi_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=09QGXP3K8MXFXWHSY2T5

It sticks well, yet still can be pulled apart. Occasionally it will pull
some fibers from the template material,

I route with 1/4" hardboard templates on wood that has been sanded to at
least 120. Sometimes it is two pieces of wood taped together to make
duplicates when I don't have a template. Typically I'll use a 1"x1"
piece of tape on the corners and every few inches between.

-BR



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