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samson

10/03/2008 1:45 PM

Where to buy magnets

I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
Does Home Depot have them?

I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
just plain magnets.

Thanks,

S.


This topic has 22 replies

JW

Jim Weisgram

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

11/03/2008 2:34 PM

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:05:44 -0500, "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> wrote:

>
>
>"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:866fe0bd-1da2-4621-a7e7-7d2d41719cfd@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 10, 2:45 pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
>>> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
>>> Does Home Depot have them?
>>>
>>> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
>>> just plain magnets.
>>
>> You don't have to buy long magnets, you can attach the magnet to a
>> piece of steel, say a ruler from a combo square. I get magnets on
>> eBay. You can get some rare earth magnets for pretty damn cheap.
>>
>> R
>
>I think what he wants to do is lay the long magnet on the outfeed table so
>it also contacts the blades. This would make the blade level with the
>outfeed table.
>
>Not a bad idea. I wonder if you would have to first flatten the magnets.

Fine Woodworking web site shows a pair of jigs that you can make with
3 (6 total) ceramic magnets to set your jointer blade; you place all 3
magnets spaced apart on your jointer table, glue a piece of wood
across the 3 with silicone adhesive. After the glue sets, the magnets
are all in a plane. Place the jig so that one magnet is over the
blade, the other 2 over the table. Make 2 of these to set the blade.

Sounds pretty simple and I am going to make my sets pretty soon.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 3:27 PM

On Mar 10, 4:24 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 10, 2:45 pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> > on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> > Does Home Depot have them?
>
> > I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> > just plain magnets.
>
> You don't have to buy long magnets, you can attach the magnet to a
> piece of steel, say a ruler from a combo square. I get magnets on
> eBay. You can get some rare earth magnets for pretty damn cheap.

CB antenna bases are good sources of free strong magnets. So are
old loudspeakers or microwave magnetrons -- do be careful not to
touch the big oil filled capacitor, a full charge can be enough to
make flesh explode.

Br

Bas

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 3:36 PM

samson wrote:
> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> Does Home Depot have them?
>
> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> just plain magnets.
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.

Just built a jig like that last week. You can find ceramic magnets at
Lowe's, package of two for ~$2.25. Pretty darn strong, certainly more
than enough power to lift a knife. They're 1" long.

Alternatively, try Radio Shack, although every store in my area (NC)
seems to be out. Sears has ceramic magnets listed on their web site
("Skil" magnets), but I wasn't able to find them in the store.

Bas.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 8:13 PM

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
>
> When I'm looking for cheap magnets, I think Harbor Freight.
>

More generally:
When I'm looking for cheap <tool>, I think Harbor Freight.

Puckdropper

JJ

in reply to Puckdropper on 10/03/2008 8:13 PM

10/03/2008 7:32 PM

Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 8:13pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
More generally: doth sayeth:
When I'm looking for cheap <tool>, I think Harbor Freight.

All depends on what you mean by cheap. I've bought welding magnets
at HF for $2 each, on sale, regular price $4-5 each. And have seen the
exact same magnet for sale at a welding supply company, same size, same
color, same packaging even, priced at $18 each. You look close at small
tools, up to an including bench saws, etc., and you'll see the same
stuff HF is selling, at lower prices at HF. When I bought my wood
lathes at HF, I paid $127. And saw the same lathe, different color,
selling for up to $300. I have NO problems shopping at HF. But if all
I wanted was magnets, there's plenty of places closer than HF I could
buy 'em - Ace, Wally World, etc.



JOAT
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I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

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"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.>

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 5:05 PM



"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:866fe0bd-1da2-4621-a7e7-7d2d41719cfd@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 10, 2:45 pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
>> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
>> Does Home Depot have them?
>>
>> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
>> just plain magnets.
>
> You don't have to buy long magnets, you can attach the magnet to a
> piece of steel, say a ruler from a combo square. I get magnets on
> eBay. You can get some rare earth magnets for pretty damn cheap.
>
> R

I think what he wants to do is lay the long magnet on the outfeed table so
it also contacts the blades. This would make the blade level with the
outfeed table.

Not a bad idea. I wonder if you would have to first flatten the magnets.

--
www.garagewoodworks.com

Bb

Bruce

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 7:05 PM

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:45:54 -0600, samson wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> Does Home Depot have them?
>
> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> just plain magnets.
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/
I got some of their 'big' ones when they were on sale, still afraid to try
and pull them off my filing cabinet 8^)


-Bruce

CE

"C & E"

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 11:01 PM


"none of the above" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Find an old dead hard drive and take it apart.
> They have NIB magnets that will give you a blister if they pinch your
> skin.
> If you have the old 5" full height drives, some have magnets that will pin
> YOU to the fridge.

I've disected HDDs and didn't find a magnet. How big is it and where is it
located? Sorry to be a putz but I shot up some HDDs and when I got them
apart, nothing found. They weren't so shot up that they were disintegrating
so I wouldn't think that I lost them.

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 3:50 PM

samson wrote:
> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> Does Home Depot have them?
>
> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> just plain magnets.


When I'm looking for cheap magnets, I think Harbor Freight.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

NR

Nahmie

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

18/03/2008 8:51 AM

On Mar 13, 6:32=A0pm, Tanus <[email protected]> wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
> > On Mar 10, 2:45 pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> >> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> >> Does Home Depot have them?
>
> >> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> >> just plain magnets.
>
> > You don't have to buy long magnets, you can attach the magnet to a
> > piece of steel, say a ruler from a combo square. =A0I get magnets on
> > eBay. =A0You can get some rare earth magnets for pretty damn cheap.
>
> > R
>
> I get my 1/2" R.E. magnets at the local
> hardware store for less than a buck apiece.
>
> Tanus
>
> --

IIRC, someone, or some magazine mentioned a year or few back, using
"cow magnets" from local feed or ag store to align jointer blades.
(Cow magnets are round, about 1/2"D by 2 or 2 1/2" long. They feed
them to a cow to attract and hold any wire, etc. that may get
ingested.)

TR

TwoGuns

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 6:00 PM

On Mar 10, 1:45=A0pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> Does Home Depot have them?
>
> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> just plain magnets.
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.

I have bought from K&J Magnets several time and have had great luck
with them. They do have a website and you can GOOGLE for it. Their
prices are great and the selection is awesome.
Good luck,
Dennis

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 8:58 PM

On Mar 10, 11:01 pm, "C & E" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I've disected HDDs and didn't find a magnet. How big is it and where is it
> located? Sorry to be a putz but I shot up some HDDs and when I got them
> apart, nothing found. They weren't so shot up that they were disintegrating
> so I wouldn't think that I lost them.

http://halogen.note.amherst.edu/~wing/wingie/tech/hdchime/hdchime.php

R

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 1:24 PM

On Mar 10, 2:45 pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> Does Home Depot have them?
>
> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> just plain magnets.

You don't have to buy long magnets, you can attach the magnet to a
piece of steel, say a ruler from a combo square. I get magnets on
eBay. You can get some rare earth magnets for pretty damn cheap.

R

no

"none of the above"

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

11/03/2008 3:16 PM

> I've disected HDDs and didn't find a magnet. How big is it and where is
it
> located? Sorry to be a putz but I shot up some HDDs and when I got them
> apart, nothing found. They weren't so shot up that they were
disintegrating
> so I wouldn't think that I lost them.
>
>
Some REALLY OLD hd's do not have magnets. They have motors to move the
heads in and out.

The normal ones use "voice coil" head positioning.
These work like speakers that have a fixed magnet and a moving coil of wire.
When current flows thru the wire the head moves in and out very quickly.

Most 1/3 height 5.5" drives have magnets with keepers like those in these
pictures:
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-separate-the-Magnets-from-an-old-hard
disk/

jn

"joe"

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

11/03/2008 7:40 PM


"Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mar 10, 4:24 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mar 10, 2:45 pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
>> > on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
>> > Does Home Depot have them?
>>
>> > I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
>> > just plain magnets.
>>


microwave magnetrons -- do be careful not to touch the big oil filled
capacitor, a full charge can be enough to make flesh explode.

On that happy note, I'll think I'll just spend a couple of bucks ;-)

jc

>

Lr

Larry

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

11/03/2008 2:35 AM

samson <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> Does Home Depot have them?
>
> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> just plain magnets.
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.

As was previously mentioned, dead hard drives are a great source
of magnets. The older/larger, the better. 5 1/4" full height
SCSI drives have the strongest magnets I've ever seen.

FWW just had an article about setting jointer knives. You can
view the video at http://tinyurl.com/326c3t.

Larry

no

"none of the above"

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

10/03/2008 3:27 PM

Find an old dead hard drive and take it apart.
They have NIB magnets that will give you a blister if they pinch your skin.
If you have the old 5" full height drives, some have magnets that will pin
YOU to the fridge.

"samson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> Does Home Depot have them?
>
> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> just plain magnets.
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.

MF

"Michael Faurot"

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

11/03/2008 1:18 PM

samson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades on my jointer.
> Where does one buy magnets this size?

If "long" = "powerful" then you can get some rare earth magnets
from Woodcraft. I've used some of the 8mm variety for keeping box
lids closed, and they are surprisingly strong.

Another option is Lee Valley[2]. LV has a "50-Piece Magnet
Sampler"[3] that looks really interesting for $13.50.

[1]: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=1139
[2]: http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&cat=1&p=42363
[3]: http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=59362&cat=1,42363,42348&ap=1

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beecrofter

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

11/03/2008 11:11 AM

On Mar 10, 2:45=A0pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> Does Home Depot have them?
>
> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> just plain magnets.
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.

try a couple rare earth magnets from Lee Valley, 1/8"x1/2" are
plenty strong enough. attach them to something straight.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

11/03/2008 11:14 PM

On Mar 11, 3:40 pm, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On Mar 10, 4:24 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Mar 10, 2:45 pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
> >> > on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
> >> > Does Home Depot have them?
>
> >> > I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
> >> > just plain magnets.
>
> microwave magnetrons -- do be careful not to touch the big oil filled
> capacitor, a full charge can be enough to make flesh explode.
>
> On that happy note, I'll think I'll just spend a couple of bucks ;-)

Let is sit for a month. It should leak off. Very educational to
take one apart once it's dead. Magnetrons are just plain
cool looking, 1950s retro, like a prop from Forbidden
Planet. Just an empty can with two very strong ring
magnets on either end, yet it cooks perfect rice in
25 minutes.

There's a HUGE high current low voltage transformer
in there feeding the death ray. Don't fuck with it. It's
even more lethal than the magnetron. Makes a nice
bookend.

Don't bother putting the oven back together, because it's
designed to die whenever a consumer does something
amazingly stupid with a source of flesh-roasting em
radiation, like opening it up.

TT

Tanus

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

13/03/2008 6:32 PM

RicodJour wrote:
> On Mar 10, 2:45 pm, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need a couple of longish magnets to align the blades
>> on my jointer. Where does one buy magnets this size?
>> Does Home Depot have them?
>>
>> I'd prefer not to buy the 40 dollar gizmo from Rockler,
>> just plain magnets.
>
> You don't have to buy long magnets, you can attach the magnet to a
> piece of steel, say a ruler from a combo square. I get magnets on
> eBay. You can get some rare earth magnets for pretty damn cheap.
>
> R

I get my 1/2" R.E. magnets at the local
hardware store for less than a buck apiece.

Tanus

--

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to samson on 10/03/2008 1:45 PM

11/03/2008 5:45 PM

"Jim Weisgram" wrote

> Fine Woodworking web site shows a pair of jigs that you can make with
> 3 (6 total) ceramic magnets to set your jointer blade; you place all 3
> magnets spaced apart on your jointer table, glue a piece of wood
> across the 3 with silicone adhesive. After the glue sets, the magnets
> are all in a plane. Place the jig so that one magnet is over the
> blade, the other 2 over the table. Make 2 of these to set the blade.
>
> Sounds pretty simple and I am going to make my sets pretty soon.

After reading your description, looking at the video was almost a waste of
time! :)

Great idea ... thanks for the tip-off.

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