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"largecorp"

16/09/2005 2:36 PM

Chopsaw to cut through metal--should I? Could I?

Hi, folks,

Does anyone know if I can use a chopsaw to cut through metal pipe? Is
there a special kind of blade that would do it?

I've got some fairly heavy-duty square pipe (railing, actually--it's
sliding door hardware for an old garage), and I don't have a hacksaw.
For the amount of work (4 cuts), I'd rather buy a blade for the chopsaw
than buy a hand hacksaw.

Any advice? Thanks!

ds


This topic has 16 replies

Bb

"BillyBob"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

17/09/2005 4:03 AM


"largecorp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi, folks,
>
> Does anyone know if I can use a chopsaw to cut through metal pipe? Is
> there a special kind of blade that would do it?
>
> I've got some fairly heavy-duty square pipe (railing, actually--it's
> sliding door hardware for an old garage), and I don't have a hacksaw.
> For the amount of work (4 cuts), I'd rather buy a blade for the chopsaw
> than buy a hand hacksaw.

For only four cuts, I wouldn't even bother. What's the problem with a human
powered hacksaw? With a good blade, its amazing how fast you can cut mild
steel.

Bob

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"largecorp"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

16/09/2005 2:54 PM

Well, thanks!

Make it a million and one.

ds

mg

"mschips"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

17/09/2005 4:21 PM

Google search of "Metal cutting blade:

Ernie Leimkuhler on Mar 27 2004, 7:15 pm said:

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking
From: Ernie Leimkuhler <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 00:15:18 GMT
Local: Sat, Mar 27 2004 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: metal cutting circular saw?


In article <[email protected]>, Roger

Hull <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can anyone comment on the "7 1/4" metal cutting circular saw" from Harbor
> Freight? I'm torn between it and the Evolution saw at twice the price. Plus
> the Evolution ad says "Blade sold seperately" and I can't find a listing for
> the blade. Any info appreciated.

> Roger in Vegas
> Worlds Greatest Impulse Buyer

A far better option is to simply buy a used Skil 77 wormdrive saw and
buy a steel cutting blade for it.

The 7-1/4" steel cutting blades from Tenryo, Morse and Matsushita all
cost around $50.

I have used the Matsushita and the Tenryu blades with great success.

Tenryu now offers 3 blades, fine, medium and coarse toothed depending
on how thick the materiel is you are cutting.

The dedicated steel saws run even lower RPM, and in theory are better
at deflecting the hot chips from hitting you in the face.

I bought a Skill 77 saw at the flea market for $35, and paid $50 for a
Tenryu Steel-Pro blade.

I diced up a lot of 1/2" plate with that combo.

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"largecorp"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

19/09/2005 11:30 AM

Hi, folks,
I'm the original poster here. Well, for 4 bucks I bought a metal
cut-off blade (cheaper than a hacksaw?), and with a minumum of metal
particles, made my four cuts.

So, thanks for advice (and the debate). Now I've got the rails, I just
need to build a garage door!

ds

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

17/09/2005 7:44 AM


"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > "no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> >>
> >>... and hope that the metal filing don't get in the saw's bearings.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Sealed bearings. I've used a chop saw with a metal cutting blade for
over
> > 10 years with no problem.
> >
>
> Is it a woodworking chop saw or one designed for metal work?
>
> I'm pretty sure my Makita LS1013 doesn't have sealed bearings.
>

I'll bet it does Jack. I've been using an old Black and Decker for metal
cutting and it's sealed. Heck - when was the last time you saw bearings
that weren't sealed? At least in the areas of the tool where it's going to
be affected by anything. The question about bearings has come up here
before when people have asked about cutting steel with a chop saw and
usually someone posts that they'd be concerned about the bearings. Well -
if steel is a threat to those bearings, then so is wood. But again - I've
been doing it with an old saw for years and I've cut a lot of steel on this
saw - no problems at all.
--

-Mike-
[email protected]

nn

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

16/09/2005 9:52 PM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>>
>>... and hope that the metal filing don't get in the saw's bearings.
>>
>
>
> Sealed bearings. I've used a chop saw with a metal cutting blade for over
> 10 years with no problem.
>

Is it a woodworking chop saw or one designed for metal work?

I'm pretty sure my Makita LS1013 doesn't have sealed bearings.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
(Remove -SPAM- to send email)

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

16/09/2005 5:44 PM


"largecorp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi, folks,
>
> Does anyone know if I can use a chopsaw to cut through metal pipe? Is
> there a special kind of blade that would do it?
>
> I've got some fairly heavy-duty square pipe (railing, actually--it's
> sliding door hardware for an old garage), and I don't have a hacksaw.
> For the amount of work (4 cuts), I'd rather buy a blade for the chopsaw
> than buy a hand hacksaw.
>
> Any advice? Thanks!
>
> ds
>

Put a metal cutting blade in it and have at it. It's done everyday by
millions of people.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

DD

David

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

16/09/2005 3:01 PM

largecorp wrote:

> Hi, folks,
>
> Does anyone know if I can use a chopsaw to cut through metal pipe? Is
> there a special kind of blade that would do it?
>
> I've got some fairly heavy-duty square pipe (railing, actually--it's
> sliding door hardware for an old garage), and I don't have a hacksaw.
> For the amount of work (4 cuts), I'd rather buy a blade for the chopsaw
> than buy a hand hacksaw.
>
> Any advice? Thanks!
>
> ds
>
get an abrasive chopsaw blade. no teeth.

Dave

nn

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

16/09/2005 9:13 PM

Christian wrote:
> go at it but make sure to remove the nylon bag <G>
>
> Christian
>
>

... and hope that the metal filing don't get in the saw's bearings.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
(Remove -SPAM- to send email)

Cu

"Christian"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

16/09/2005 11:48 PM

go at it but make sure to remove the nylon bag <G>

Christian




"largecorp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi, folks,
>
> Does anyone know if I can use a chopsaw to cut through metal pipe? Is
> there a special kind of blade that would do it?
>
> I've got some fairly heavy-duty square pipe (railing, actually--it's
> sliding door hardware for an old garage), and I don't have a hacksaw.
> For the amount of work (4 cuts), I'd rather buy a blade for the chopsaw
> than buy a hand hacksaw.
>
> Any advice? Thanks!
>
> ds
>

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

17/09/2005 3:00 PM


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "BillyBob" wrote in message
>
> > For only four cuts, I wouldn't even bother. What's the problem with a
> human
> > powered hacksaw? With a good blade, its amazing how fast you can cut
mild
> > steel.
>
> Ahhhh ... The light of uncommon sense finally shines on the
problem/thread.
>
> Not to mention that a shop without a hacksaw is as useless as a pre-op
John
> Wayne Bobbit after Lorena did her/his thing.
>

Oh, I don't know that it's such common sense. The chop saw will make a much
better cut than a hack saw will and will certainly require a lot less
effort. Cost - negligible difference between the cost of the blade and a
hacksaw.
--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

16/09/2005 9:23 PM


"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Christian wrote:
> > go at it but make sure to remove the nylon bag <G>
> >
> > Christian
> >
> >
>
> ... and hope that the metal filing don't get in the saw's bearings.
>

Sealed bearings. I've used a chop saw with a metal cutting blade for over
10 years with no problem.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

19/09/2005 6:37 AM

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 02:06:07 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
"BillyBob" <[email protected]> quickly quoth:

>
>"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> Oh, I don't know that it's such common sense. The chop saw will make a
>much
>> better cut than a hack saw will and will certainly require a lot less
>> effort. Cost - negligible difference between the cost of the blade and a
>> hacksaw.
>
>I just don't put that much care into garage doors. Besides I like to work
>up a sweat. I grab my Japanese hand saw frequently for quick rough cuts
>because I'm too lazy to drag something over to the table saw and do the set
>up.

If you're working up a sweat with a Japanese handsaw, you're doing
something very wrong. I can cut a tubafore in half with one held
between my thumb and forefinger and never work up a sweat. They're
great!

It'd probably work on an aluminum-sheathed/foam-filled garage door or
whatever you guys were talking about, but for real metal, a hacksaw
(or cold saw) would definitely be in order.


- Metaphors Be With You -
http://diversify.com Web Application Programming

Bb

"BillyBob"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

19/09/2005 2:06 AM


"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Oh, I don't know that it's such common sense. The chop saw will make a
much
> better cut than a hack saw will and will certainly require a lot less
> effort. Cost - negligible difference between the cost of the blade and a
> hacksaw.

I just don't put that much care into garage doors. Besides I like to work
up a sweat. I grab my Japanese hand saw frequently for quick rough cuts
because I'm too lazy to drag something over to the table saw and do the set
up.

Bob

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

17/09/2005 7:12 AM

"BillyBob" wrote in message

> For only four cuts, I wouldn't even bother. What's the problem with a
human
> powered hacksaw? With a good blade, its amazing how fast you can cut mild
> steel.

Ahhhh ... The light of uncommon sense finally shines on the problem/thread.

Not to mention that a shop without a hacksaw is as useless as a pre-op John
Wayne Bobbit after Lorena did her/his thing.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/12/05

sa

sadler

in reply to "largecorp" on 16/09/2005 2:36 PM

18/09/2005 1:46 PM

This should be "A Termite's Guide to cutting Metal." Get serious. As
an electrician we use these everday.
http://www.toolbarn.com/product/panasonic/EY3530NQMKW/

Hey it's only $300. After you use it for your 4 cuts, you'll find
lots of other things to cut. If you can't, e-mail me and I'll take it
off you hands for 50%. I need another one. ;-)


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