I've not been here in a long time -- too many things to do at my 1-man
job. And, this is way OT, but I figure if you're here then you
probably have some familiarity with the (computer) mouse. And, since
much of the talk here is about working with one's hands - preferably
with tools that fit and feel right - I thought there might be some
helpful opinions here.
While I know that there is a good deal of tech knowledge here, I am
not looking for any special performance -- e.g., games. Mostly, just
a good fit.
I have large hands -- not basketball-player large, but XL glove large.
I'm looking for a large mouse (optical). I'd love one that is the
size of the Logitech track ball -- but a mouse. I'd like at least 4
buttons; a scroll wheel would be nice, but not required.
A reluctant Plan B is to make a large platform for my hand, with
cutouts for the mouse to slip into. The problem is not really
repetitive stress, it's that my hand cramps up. (This is also why I
don't like mini cell phones.)
Anyone know of a large mouse? A computer rat? TIA - Igor
I have found that a small, custom shaped wooden block and some double stick tape
(the spongy kind) are a big help in enlarging the effective size of a mouse, and
makes it much more comfortable for me to hold. This keeps my thumb from having
to squeeze in too tightly toward my palm. Modify any mouse you like the controls
on. After all this is a woodworking forum...
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In article <[email protected]>, Igor
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Anyone know of a large mouse? A computer rat? TIA - Igor
I use the Intellimouse Explorer (with my Mac, FWIW). It's large, 5
button plus scroll wheel.
Check it out.
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:25:32 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>You might take a look at some of the ergonomic and assistive technology
>stuff.
>
>http://www.sforh.com/pointing/mice.html
>
>http://www.ergonomicsmadeeasy.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=12
>
>http://www.fentek-ind.com/ergmouse.htm
>
>
Thanks, all, for the suggestions. Quite helpful. Since the larger
mice that look about the right size lack the function buttons I'd
like, I think I may still go with one of those but also add this
gaming Belkin keypad on the left side of the keyboard and program its
keys to do all sorts of stuff - especially to have a have 1-click way
to open links in a new window.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000DC643/104-4745168-2601529?redirect=true&%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=172282
- Igor
Igor wrote:
> The problem is not really repetitive stress, it's that my hand cramps up.
It's actually the same problem, except that you don't have RSI yet.
The problem is mainly caused by holding static muscle tension, and
you can still do that with all the ergonomic design in the world.
A suitable-sized mouse will help, but don't forget that you need
to train yourself to relax any muscle that isn't *moving*.
Our biological systems have not evolved to sustain static tension.
Every muscle in the body must be either relaxed or moving, or you
run into trouble. Motion means that the sponge-like muscle tissue
gets its energy supply pumped through it, and relaxation means its
energy needs are minimised and the sponge is loose enough to allow
energy supply through diffusion. Static tension depletes the local
energy supply until there isn't enough ATP to allow the muscle to
release, and you have a locked muscle that needs stretching or
massage to free it up. The problem applies also to tendons, etc,
because they have such limited blood supply anyhow.
This is the basic physical principle behind almost all tension-
related problems, and the behavioural remedies (Alexander technique,
Tai Chi, etc). Learn it, apply it, and you'll have a much more
comfortable life. Deep relaxation practice is a good start, as it
helps you learn to recognise unnecessary tension.
Clifford Heath.
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:45:29 GMT, Igor <[email protected]> wrote:
>I've not been here in a long time -- too many things to do at my 1-man
>job. And, this is way OT, but I figure if you're here then you
>probably have some familiarity with the (computer) mouse. And, since
>much of the talk here is about working with one's hands - preferably
>with tools that fit and feel right - I thought there might be some
>helpful opinions here.
>
>While I know that there is a good deal of tech knowledge here, I am
>not looking for any special performance -- e.g., games. Mostly, just
>a good fit.
>
>I have large hands -- not basketball-player large, but XL glove large.
>I'm looking for a large mouse (optical). I'd love one that is the
>size of the Logitech track ball -- but a mouse. I'd like at least 4
>buttons; a scroll wheel would be nice, but not required.
>
>A reluctant Plan B is to make a large platform for my hand, with
>cutouts for the mouse to slip into. The problem is not really
>repetitive stress, it's that my hand cramps up. (This is also why I
>don't like mini cell phones.)
>
>Anyone know of a large mouse? A computer rat? TIA - Igor
I use the Fellowes Opti Gel 99932. It is about as large as I've seen
in stores. It also has a "skirt" to rest your fingers on, a gel palm
pad and boasts 5 programmable buttons / scroll wheel. You might also
look into the Perfit x-large mouse, but it retails for around $100.
HTH
Bill
How about something like this?
http://www.mysimon.com/Kids-Mice/9000-11584_8-0.html?mlpid=20301506
I think it may be intended for kids with small hands and yet-to-be-perfected
motor skills, but it may be what you need.
Lee
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Igor wrote:
> I've not been here in a long time -- too many things to do at my 1-man
> job. And, this is way OT, but I figure if you're here then you
> probably have some familiarity with the (computer) mouse. And, since
> much of the talk here is about working with one's hands - preferably
> with tools that fit and feel right - I thought there might be some
> helpful opinions here.
>
> While I know that there is a good deal of tech knowledge here, I am
> not looking for any special performance -- e.g., games. Mostly, just
> a good fit.
>
> I have large hands -- not basketball-player large, but XL glove large.
> I'm looking for a large mouse (optical). I'd love one that is the
> size of the Logitech track ball -- but a mouse. I'd like at least 4
> buttons; a scroll wheel would be nice, but not required.
>
> A reluctant Plan B is to make a large platform for my hand, with
> cutouts for the mouse to slip into. The problem is not really
> repetitive stress, it's that my hand cramps up. (This is also why I
> don't like mini cell phones.)
>
> Anyone know of a large mouse? A computer rat? TIA - Igor
An outfit called "Countour Perfit" makes mice in several different sizes
<http://www.contourdesign.com/perfit.htm>. Not cheap though. The Lenovo
Scrollpoint Pro 31P8700
<http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=-840&storeId=10000001&langId=-1&dualCurrId=1000073&categoryId=2581898&productId=8564784>
is a fairly hefty mouse but I don't recall how many buttons it has.
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Clifford Heath <[email protected]> said:
-snip-
>... Static tension depletes the local
>energy supply until there isn't enough ATP to allow the muscle to
>release, and you have a locked muscle that needs stretching or
>massage to free it up. ...
-snip-
Thanks, that explains why my jaw muscles are so tight and sore for
several days after encountering some of those BORG drones.
"Igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've not been here in a long time -- too many things to do at my 1-man
> job. And, this is way OT, but I figure if you're here then you
> probably have some familiarity with the (computer) mouse. And, since
> much of the talk here is about working with one's hands - preferably
> with tools that fit and feel right - I thought there might be some
> helpful opinions here.
>
> While I know that there is a good deal of tech knowledge here, I am
> not looking for any special performance -- e.g., games. Mostly, just
> a good fit.
>
> I have large hands -- not basketball-player large, but XL glove large.
> I'm looking for a large mouse (optical). I'd love one that is the
> size of the Logitech track ball -- but a mouse. I'd like at least 4
> buttons; a scroll wheel would be nice, but not required.
>
> A reluctant Plan B is to make a large platform for my hand, with
> cutouts for the mouse to slip into. The problem is not really
> repetitive stress, it's that my hand cramps up. (This is also why I
> don't like mini cell phones.)
>
> Anyone know of a large mouse? A computer rat? TIA - Igor
You might take a look at some of the ergonomic and assistive technology
stuff.
http://www.sforh.com/pointing/mice.html
http://www.ergonomicsmadeeasy.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=12
http://www.fentek-ind.com/ergmouse.htm