In article <[email protected]>, R.H.
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted a few more this morning:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
236 is a bicycle chain tool.
238 is a can opener
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> Or maybe it's called a concrete saw. A diamond or carbide tipped thing
> for making holes in concrete and similar stuff.
This one isn't any type of tool, it an old type of toy.
Jeff Wisnia wrote:
> Jack wrote:
>
>> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Just posted a few more this morning:
>>>
>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener
>>
>>
>
> So named because it was supposed to take 38 punches to work its way
> around the top of a standard K-ration can.
>
> Jeff (Smoke 'em if youve got 'em...)
>
I think it was C-rations and not K-rations.
Philski
Forget the guides. They're out of date before they are published. Run
price histories on Ebay.
--
Ross
www.myoldtools.com
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm thinking about getting one of the two antique tool pricing guides and
> was wondering if anyone has seen them and has a preference one way or the
> other.
>
> There is one by Barlow:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895380994/qid=1105389673/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-2371772-2348119?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
>
> And one by Kean:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1879335972/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/102-2371772-2348119?v=glance&s=books&st=*
>
>
> I'm looking for info concerning if one of them has more photos, better
> descriptions, wider variety of entries, etc.
>
>
> Rob
>
>
Here I go.
237 looks exactly like the tool we used way back there when I was a
typewriter repair guy. It was for machines with the keys that flew up
and hit a ribbon which transferred to the paper. You know, the kind
that jammed all the time and got the letters messed up from hitting
each other? It's a peener or a crimper depending on who you ask. It's
for adjusting the typefaces so they line up again after hard use. Pinch
the type bar in one place and the typeface moves up, pinch it someplace
else and it moves down. It was an art I didn't really get the hang of
till electronics took over. Probably used for other applications too.
The heads are adjustable and replaceable so you and peen different
thicknesses of metal in different configurations. Eventually the
letters just won't line up and you had to replace or resolder the
typeface.
Boy, that brought up a few years I haven't thought about for a while.
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:21:50 -0600, "My Old Tools"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Forget the guides. They're out of date before they are published. Run
>price histories on Ebay.
They do have some value in pointing out that the left-handed whiffle
scraper was particularly rare, in comparison to the right-handed
version. Very often you don't need an absolute price estimate (and
many damned fools take these books as gospel), you just need the hint
as to which is the one worth bothering over.
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:21:50 -0600, "My Old Tools"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Forget the guides. They're out of date before they are published. Run
> >price histories on Ebay.
>
> They do have some value in pointing out that the left-handed whiffle
> scraper was particularly rare, in comparison to the right-handed
> version. Very often you don't need an absolute price estimate (and
> many damned fools take these books as gospel), you just need the hint
> as to which is the one worth bothering over.
That's more like what I want it for, I'm guessing they would have a few
nuggets of info that some of the other books don't.
[email protected] wrote:
>
...
> ... The woman who owned the shop would not sell it
> to me because she had not been able to find a price for it in any of
> her "price guides!" Nuts!
Smart lady...she obviously had been in business for a while... :)
>>Forget the guides. They're out of date before they are published. Run
>>price histories on Ebay.
>They do have some value in pointing out that the left-handed whiffle
>scraper was particularly rare, in comparison to the right-handed
>version. Very often you don't need an absolute price estimate (and
>many damned fools take these books as gospel), you just need the hint
>as to which is the one worth bothering over.
I once ran across a luncheon set of depression glass in a small shop.
It was not one of the well known or often collected patterns but it
was one that I was familiar with and liked. I wanted to buy it and
asked about the price. The woman who owned the shop would not sell it
to me because she had not been able to find a price for it in any of
her "price guides!" Nuts!
Maryann
"Anything can be anywhere!"
> Number 241 is a watchmakers tool. Perhaps more properly, part of a
> watchmakers tool. It is a hexagon anvil anvil. The small holes are
> used to hold the shoulders of balance staffs while a stake with a hole
> in it is used to rivet the staff to the wheel. The larger holes can
> be used to riviet wheels to pinions in a similar manner.
> The hole in the bottom suggests that this was part of or could be used
> as part of) a "Staking tool". The stakes were guided plumbly over
> the holes that cold be rotated under the guide.
>
> You might want to check out this URL to see what the anvil alone and
> the staking took look like.
>
> http://shorinternational.com/JewelingStaking.htm
I forgot to ask, what are the slots for?
#238 is actually called a P38. It is a can opener that came about WWII and
the Korean War for opening those infamous rations. They even ended up being
given out along with some canned good in the stores at one time......
I may even still have one or two around here some place....
--
George H Hughes
Warner Robins, GA
"Philski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jeff Wisnia wrote:
> > Jack wrote:
> >
> >> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >>> Just posted a few more this morning:
> >>>
> >>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener
> >>
> >>
> >
> > So named because it was supposed to take 38 punches to work its way
> > around the top of a standard K-ration can.
> >
> > Jeff (Smoke 'em if youve got 'em...)
> >
> I think it was C-rations and not K-rations.
>
> Philski
Jack wrote:
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Just posted a few more this morning:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>Rob
>
>
> How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener
>
>
So named because it was supposed to take 38 punches to work its way
around the top of a standard K-ration can.
Jeff (Smoke 'em if youve got 'em...)
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public
schools"
Gunner wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:25:20 -0500, "George H Hughes"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>#238 is actually called a P38. It is a can opener that came about WWII and
>>the Korean War for opening those infamous rations. They even ended up being
>>given out along with some canned good in the stores at one time......
>>I may even still have one or two around here some place....
>
>
> You mean you dont keep one on your keychain?
Yep, I do....
http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/jeff/KEYS.jpg
Right in between a .45ACP cartridge and the wooden fob, which before it
got so worn, could easily be seen to read "WTF". SWMBO and I have a
matching pair of those which we got a guy at a crafts fair to make for
us on the spot about 15 years ago. I remember telling the carver we
wanted to remember my dead uncle Willam Thomas Feinbaum. If you look
close you'll see where I epoxied in a brass bushing when the hole in the
wood got worn dangerously large.
Needless to say all my keys save one for the car stay behind when taking
a commercial flight or entering a court building.
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public
schools"
Geeze, my server blows today. Piggybacking.
>In article <[email protected]>,
>R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Just posted a few more this morning:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
236. Bicycle chain destroyer tool.
237. Pimple squeezer.
238. Airplane hijacking device.
239. Cup holder adapter.
240. Nostril flaring tool.
241. Fastener from foreign car brake system--the bastards.
--
B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net
http://web2.airmail.net/thegoat4/
"R.H." <[email protected]> writes:
>Just posted a few more this morning:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
>
>
#236 Bicycle Chain link removal tool
#238 Can opener
#239 Camera Lens Shade
scott
"Ned Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, rhvp67
> @cinci.rr.com says...
> > Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
>
> 236 Bicycle chain breaker
Correct
> 237 Spring wire cutter -- cuts hard wire
I don't see any cutting edges on this one
> 238 GI can opener -- popular among backpackers
Yes
> 239 ?
> 240 ?
> 241 Bench block used when driving out small pins, etc.
It's a watchmaker's tool, so I suppose they could use it for that.
Bob? Is that you, you BASTARD!!!!!!
PCB bound!!!
"B.B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Geeze, my server blows today. Piggybacking.
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>Just posted a few more this morning:
> >>
> >>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 236. Bicycle chain destroyer tool.
> 237. Pimple squeezer.
> 238. Airplane hijacking device.
> 239. Cup holder adapter.
> 240. Nostril flaring tool.
> 241. Fastener from foreign car brake system--the bastards.
>
> --
> B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net
> http://web2.airmail.net/thegoat4/
In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted a few more this morning:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
239 appears to be an automobile ashtray for an old Dodge
241 -- perhaps part of wire-extruding machinery?
In article <[email protected]>, rhvp67
@cinci.rr.com says...
> Just posted a few more this morning:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
236 Bicycle chain breaker
237 Spring wire cutter -- cuts hard wire
238 GI can opener -- popular among backpackers
239 ?
240 ?
241 Bench block used when driving out small pins, etc.
Ned Simmons
In article <[email protected]>, rhvp67
@cinci.rr.com says...
> Just posted a few more this morning:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
235, Tube flaring tool.
233, Tap or die holder.
238, GI can opener.
236, Bicycle chain tool.
--
"Trust me, I do this all the time"
Mike M
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Just posted a few more this morning:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
236. (I've got one exactly like this) - it is for pushing
out/replacing the removable rivet/pin in a bicycle chain
237 - (my micrometer is ls starrett and i'm english bought
it in a junk sale it is beautiful engineering )this has
gotta be some form of adjustable jaw cutters/nipper used
from clipping tiles to shape - but the blades look round
the wrong way
238 (I've got one of these as well ) it's a tin opener, I
believe it was a us military design/issue
239. (you've not broken into my home to take photos have
you?) - my zoetrope looks just like this
240
241 could be a drill bit holder d-i-y style
Thanks and Regards
Matthew Newell
"Dennis Arenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:39:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >Rob
> >
> Number 241 is a watchmakers tool. Perhaps more properly, part of a
> watchmakers tool. It is a hexagon anvil anvil. The small holes are
> used to hold the shoulders of balance staffs while a stake with a hole
> in it is used to rivet the staff to the wheel. The larger holes can
> be used to riviet wheels to pinions in a similar manner.
> The hole in the bottom suggests that this was part of or could be used
> as part of) a "Staking tool". The stakes were guided plumbly over
> the holes that cold be rotated under the guide.
>
> You might want to check out this URL to see what the anvil alone and
> the staking took look like.
>
> http://shorinternational.com/JewelingStaking.htm
Thanks for the link! I wasn't sure about this one.
"Matthew Russotto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 239 appears to be an automobile ashtray for an old Dodge
The slots are too thin for it to be an ashtray.
>
> 241 -- perhaps part of wire-extruding machinery?
Nope
I'm thinking about getting one of the two antique tool pricing guides and
was wondering if anyone has seen them and has a preference one way or the
other.
There is one by Barlow:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895380994/qid=1105389673/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-2371772-2348119?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
And one by Kean:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1879335972/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/102-2371772-2348119?v=glance&s=books&st=*
I'm looking for info concerning if one of them has more photos, better
descriptions, wider variety of entries, etc.
Rob
"John Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in news:pYhDd.9687$iu5.6281
> @fe2.columbus.rr.com:
>
> >> #240 really funny pliers or spreaders of some kind...specific uses I
> >> have no idea though.
> >> #241 wire thickness guage
> >
> >
>
> #240's a spreader for battery terminals (car battery).
Correct
> #231 looks like something telephone related (dialer from a switchboard?)
Yes, it's telephone related but not from a switchboard
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> R.H. wrote:
>
> >Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> #236 looks like another chain breaker.
Correct.
> #237 almost looks like a wire stripper but because it is compound, is
> probably a crimper of some sort.
It's a crimper, but that's all I know about it.
> #238 can opener
Yes
> #239 ??
> #240 tool for spreading automotive battery terminal clamps.
Correct
> #241 looks like a thickness gauge.
Nope
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in news:pYhDd.9687$iu5.6281
@fe2.columbus.rr.com:
>> #240 really funny pliers or spreaders of some kind...specific uses I
>> have no idea though.
>> #241 wire thickness guage
>
>
#240's a spreader for battery terminals (car battery).
#231 looks like something telephone related (dialer from a switchboard?)
Regards,
JT
R.H. wrote:
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> So... is 239 a zoetrope or a zeotrope and what is it for?
>>
>
> I had to check, it's zoetrope, I think I've been pronouncing it
> wrong for years. You put in strips of paper with drawings on it
> and then when you spin it the drawings appear animated when viewed
> through the slots.
>
> http://courses.ncssm.edu/gallery/collections/toys/html/exhibit10.ht
> m
A word (and device) I'm familiar with, but never checked the etymology
of. The OED reports its first use in 1867:
zoetrope [irreg. f. Gr. life + turning.]
A mechanical toy or optical instrument consisting of a cylinder open at
the top, with a series of slits in the circumference, and a series of
figures representing successive positions of a moving object arranged
along the inner surface, which when viewed through the slits while the
cylinder is in rapid rotation produce the impression of actual movement
of the object. Also called wheel of life.
1867 Aunt Carrie Popular Pastimes for Field & Fireside 229 The
Zoetrope is a newly invented toy. It presents a series of striking
optical delusions. 1869 W. S. Gilbert Bab Ball., Capt. Reece vi,
And, also, with amusement rife, A Zoetrope, or Wheel of Life. 1881
Athenæum 29 Oct. 567/2 By a zoetrope these figures are projected on a
screen, and the clown exhibited as in motion, with all his changes of
position.
--
Bill Burns, Long Island, NY, USA
mailto:[email protected]
History of Technology Websites:
http://ftldesign.com
"Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, rhvp67
> @cinci.rr.com says...
> > Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> 235, Tube flaring tool.
> 233, Tap or die holder.
> 238, GI can opener.
> 236, Bicycle chain tool.
These are all correct.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 239 cement drill
Nope, it's made of plastic.
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, R.H.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 236 is a bicycle chain tool.
>
> 238 is a can opener
Both of these are correct.
R.H. wrote:
> "DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Just posted a few more this morning:
>>>
>>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>236) Some sort of tool for pressing a pin out or in? Perhaps for
>>roller drive chains?
>
>
>
> Correct, it's for bike chains, I'm not familiar with roller drive chains.
>
>
>
>>237) A set of Starrett compound leverage end cutter pliers (Cutnippers).
>>Except that the replaceable blades don't look right. I suspect
>>that this has been modified to act as a crimper. These are
>>normally avaialbe with either tool steel blades or carbide
>>blades, and are normally used for cutting things like (hardened
>>spring) music wire.
>>
>
>
> Yes, someone from Starrett also suggested that they might have been
> modified.
>
>
>>There are two sizes of these, and mine are the smaller ones (No
>>1-5-1/2"). This marking is right where the "S-Y" marking is on
>>your example.
>
>
> It's hard to read, but for the record mine says "S-7".
>
>
>>Note that there is an adjustable stop screw in the center of the
>>spring (from the left-hand handle a shown), to adjust so the
>>blades *almost* but not quite touch after re-sharpening. (The
>>instruction slip packed with them suggests 0.001" clearance.)
>>
>>But these have no edges, which is why I suggest that they have
>>been modified to serve as some form of crimper.
>>
>>O.K. I've just gone on down to the next image, and the end
>>shape supports my feeling. Note also, that the screw on the jaw
>>to the right is totally non-standard, while the one on the left
>>may well be original.
>
>
> I hadn't noticed the stop screw, thanks for the info.
>
>
>
>>238) K-ration can opener.
>
>
> Correct.
>
>
>>239) Some form of lens hood? I can't see the small end, to tell
>>whether it is open, and threads into a lens. If so, the slots
>>may allow the large end to be stored reversed on a lens body.
>
>
> The bottom of this one isn't open, it's not a lens hood.
>
>
>
>>240) Pliers to expand the inside of something -- perhaps flexible
>>tubing prior to slipping onto a fitting?
>
>
> Yes, it's for expanding something, but not for tubing.
>
>
>
>>241) Jeweler's bench block. I've never known what function the
>>slots along the near edge serve, but I suspect for holding a
>>gear for filing or other work?
>
>
> Correct.
>
>
>
A bicycle chain is a roller chain.
I did a search on "peener" and couldn't find anything. My final answer on
this one is going to be "Starrett adjustable jaw cut nipper that has been
modified into a crimper", unless I hear some evidence that indicates
otherwise.
"s2s" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here I go.
>
> 237 looks exactly like the tool we used way back there when I was a
> typewriter repair guy. It was for machines with the keys that flew up
> and hit a ribbon which transferred to the paper. You know, the kind
> that jammed all the time and got the letters messed up from hitting
> each other? It's a peener or a crimper depending on who you ask. It's
> for adjusting the typefaces so they line up again after hard use. Pinch
> the type bar in one place and the typeface moves up, pinch it someplace
> else and it moves down. It was an art I didn't really get the hang of
> till electronics took over. Probably used for other applications too.
> The heads are adjustable and replaceable so you and peen different
> thicknesses of metal in different configurations. Eventually the
> letters just won't line up and you had to replace or resolder the
> typeface.
> Boy, that brought up a few years I haven't thought about for a while.
>
I happen to own one of the original version of a Royal portable with its
case. And I even remember when they were the new thing......
And that thing got used a couple of months ago..... Try to make your word
processor fit some these little bitty pre-printed forms and they tell you to
print or type. Hxxx!
--
George H Hughes
Warner Robins, GA
"C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "s2s" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> (snip)
> > typewriter repair guy. It was for machines with the keys that flew up
> > and hit a ribbon which transferred to the paper. You know, the kind
> > that jammed all the time and got the letters messed up from hitting
> > each other?
>
> Typewriter? What is this "writer of types" you speak of? Keys flying up?
> Ribbon?
>
> > Boy, that brought up a few years I haven't thought about for a while.
>
> You and me both. 8-)
>
> C.
> Who still has his trusty Manual Olympia close at hand, because, well,
> You Never Know...
>
>
>
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:39:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >Rob
> >
>
> #237: Connector crimping tool for coaxial cables. Hexagonal shape inside
> the jaws is for the connector.
I'll have to check into this...
R.H. wrote:
>Just posted a few more this morning:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>
#236 looks like another chain breaker.
#237 almost looks like a wire stripper but because it is compound, is
probably a crimper of some sort.
#238 can opener
#239 ??
#240 tool for spreading automotive battery terminal clamps.
#241 looks like a thickness gauge.
In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted a few more this morning:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
236) Some sort of tool for pressing a pin out or in? Perhaps for
roller drive chains?
237) A set of Starrett compound leverage end cutter pliers (Cutnippers).
Except that the replaceable blades don't look right. I suspect
that this has been modified to act as a crimper. These are
normally avaialbe with either tool steel blades or carbide
blades, and are normally used for cutting things like (hardened
spring) music wire.
There are two sizes of these, and mine are the smaller ones (No
1-5-1/2"). This marking is right where the "S-Y" marking is on
your example.
Note that there is an adjustable stop screw in the center of the
spring (from the left-hand handle a shown), to adjust so the
blades *almost* but not quite touch after re-sharpening. (The
instruction slip packed with them suggests 0.001" clearance.)
But these have no edges, which is why I suggest that they have
been modified to serve as some form of crimper.
O.K. I've just gone on down to the next image, and the end
shape supports my feeling. Note also, that the screw on the jaw
to the right is totally non-standard, while the one on the left
may well be original.
238) K-ration can opener.
239) Some form of lens hood? I can't see the small end, to tell
whether it is open, and threads into a lens. If so, the slots
may allow the large end to be stored reversed on a lens body.
240) Pliers to expand the inside of something -- perhaps flexible
tubing prior to slipping onto a fitting?
241) Jeweler's bench block. I've never known what function the
slots along the near edge serve, but I suspect for holding a
gear for filing or other work?
Enjoy,
DoN.
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In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Just posted a few more this morning:
>> >
>> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>> 236) Some sort of tool for pressing a pin out or in? Perhaps for
>> roller drive chains?
>
>
>Correct, it's for bike chains, I'm not familiar with roller drive chains.
I bike chain is only one example (and size) of roller drive
chain. Larger ones are used in motorcycles, and they are used in
various pieces of equipment elsewhere. I have a tiny one which was used
to transfer the rotation of a knob to the shaft of a switch somewhat
remotely located. A larger one is used in the Logan shaper to drive the
bull gear from the motor in the base.
>
>> 237) A set of Starrett compound leverage end cutter pliers (Cutnippers).
>> Except that the replaceable blades don't look right. I suspect
>> that this has been modified to act as a crimper. These are
>> normally available with either tool steel blades or carbide
>> blades, and are normally used for cutting things like (hardened
>> spring) music wire.
>>
>
>Yes, someone from Starrett also suggested that they might have been
>modified.
Very likely.
>> There are two sizes of these, and mine are the smaller ones (No
>> 1-5-1/2"). This marking is right where the "S-Y" marking is on
>> your example.
>
>It's hard to read, but for the record mine says "S-7".
O.K. The other size is a 7" one, so the part number may reflect
that. Looking in an old Starrett catalog, I see that the wire cutters
are "No. 1" (followed by some suffix), and the same plier bodies, but
with tile-cutting blades, bears a "235" part number.
>> Note that there is an adjustable stop screw in the center of the
>> spring (from the left-hand handle a shown), to adjust so the
>> blades *almost* but not quite touch after re-sharpening. (The
>> instruction slip packed with them suggests 0.001" clearance.)
[ ... ]
>I hadn't noticed the stop screw, thanks for the info.
It helps that I have bought them new, and thus gotten the
instruction sheet which accompanies them.
>
>> 238) K-ration can opener.
>
>Correct.
>
>>
>> 239) Some form of lens hood? I can't see the small end, to tell
>> whether it is open, and threads into a lens. If so, the slots
>> may allow the large end to be stored reversed on a lens body.
>
>The bottom of this one isn't open, it's not a lens hood.
I have now read what it is.
>
>> 240) Pliers to expand the inside of something -- perhaps flexible
>> tubing prior to slipping onto a fitting?
>
>Yes, it's for expanding something, but not for tubing.
And this.
Out of curiosity -- why do you keep accepting guesses after you
have posted the answers?
Enjoy,
DoN.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:39:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Just posted a few more this morning:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>Rob
>>
>
>#237: Connector crimping tool for coaxial cables. Hexagonal shape inside
>the jaws is for the connector.
Absolutely not. This is a modified (by some unknown party)
Starrett adjustable jaw cut nipper. The original blades have been
replaced with something different which may be intended to serve as an
indenter in some form of crimper, but the aperture is *not* a hexagonal
crimp dies.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
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>"s2s" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Here I go.
>>
>> 237 looks exactly like the tool we used way back there when I was a
>> typewriter repair guy. It was for machines with the keys that flew up
>> and hit a ribbon which transferred to the paper. You know, the kind
>> that jammed all the time and got the letters messed up from hitting
>> each other? It's a peener or a crimper depending on who you ask. It's
>> for adjusting the typefaces so they line up again after hard use. Pinch
>> the type bar in one place and the typeface moves up, pinch it someplace
>> else and it moves down. It was an art I didn't really get the hang of
>> till electronics took over. Probably used for other applications too.
>> The heads are adjustable and replaceable so you and peen different
>> thicknesses of metal in different configurations. Eventually the
>> letters just won't line up and you had to replace or resolder the
>> typeface.
[ ... ]
>I did a search on "peener" and couldn't find anything. My final answer on
>this one is going to be "Starrett adjustable jaw cut nipper that has been
>modified into a crimper", unless I hear some evidence that indicates
>otherwise.
I know of the practice, though I have never seen the tools
designed for the task -- but this sounds like an excellent explanation
of what you have. There were not enough of them made to justify making
them from scratch, and the compound leverage of the Starrett cut nipper,
plus the ratchet jaw mounting would work very well for the task.
Like many specialized toolkits, different people have different
names for the same tool, so this may be a term for it which is not
widely distributed.
One thing which would confirm this would be if the jaws are more
domed in both dimensions. They are obviously so in one dimension, but I
don't think that the other shot (which shows from the proper direction,
but shows the whole tool) has enough detail available.
If nothing else, it at least could be a cut nipper modified by
an individual to serve that function.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "R.H." <[email protected]> writes:
> >Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
>
> #236 Bicycle Chain link removal tool
> #238 Can opener
> #239 Camera Lens Shade
The first two are right, but not the last.
"My Old Tools" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Forget the guides. They're out of date before they are published. Run
> price histories on Ebay.
If I got one it would probably be more for general reference than for
pricing, I already have five different books on tools so I'm not sure it
would be worth my money getting one for this purpose. I'd sure like to see
one before I bought it.
R.H. wrote:
> Just posted a few more this morning:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
I'm sure someone's answered this already, but here are my answers:
#236 is a bicycle chain link tool
#237 looks like a crimping tool of some kind, though I couldn't say what for
#238 P-38 can opener, issued to GIs when rations were in cans, before
MREs became the standard ration
#239 Looks like one of those 70s plastic ashtrays but that's not it...
#240 really funny pliers or spreaders of some kind...specific uses I
have no idea though.
#241 wire thickness guage
thanks for sharing, that's a very interesting page you've got there.
bkr
"RellikJM" <GO@SPAM SOMEONE ELSE.COM> wrote in message
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> 237.
>
> Adjustable-Jaw Cut Nippers
>
> http://catalog.starrett.com/catalog/catalog/groups.asp?GroupID=465
Yes, 237 looks just like the ones on that page except mine are crimpers not
cutters, maybe someone modified them.
> One thing which would confirm this would be if the jaws are more
> domed in both dimensions. They are obviously so in one dimension, but I
> don't think that the other shot (which shows from the proper direction,
> but shows the whole tool) has enough detail available.
They're just domed in the one dimension.
>
> If nothing else, it at least could be a cut nipper modified by
> an individual to serve that function.
I've got a couple more things that I pulled from the same tool box that I'll
be posting shortly, if anyone recognizes them maybe it will help ID this
one.
"Ian Noble" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:39:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >Rob
> >
> The easy ones:
>
> 236 is a bicycle chain link removal and replacement tool.
>
> 238 is a basic can-opener, of a type often found in shops specialising
> in outdoor stuff.
Both correct.
Hee Hee Hee no not anymore, remember those days though.
George
"Gunner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:25:20 -0500, "George H Hughes"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >#238 is actually called a P38. It is a can opener that came about WWII
and
> >the Korean War for opening those infamous rations. They even ended up
being
> >given out along with some canned good in the stores at one time......
> >I may even still have one or two around here some place....
>
> You mean you dont keep one on your keychain?
>
> Sigh..no pocket knife or cigarette lighter either I suppose...
>
> Gunner
>
> "The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any
better,
> on average, than the citizens of Baltimore.
> True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee,
> but why this is more stylish than
> sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
> -- P.J O'Rourke (1989)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:39:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted a few more this morning:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
>
Number 241 is a watchmakers tool. Perhaps more properly, part of a
watchmakers tool. It is a hexagon anvil anvil. The small holes are
used to hold the shoulders of balance staffs while a stake with a hole
in it is used to rivet the staff to the wheel. The larger holes can
be used to riviet wheels to pinions in a similar manner.
The hole in the bottom suggests that this was part of or could be used
as part of) a "Staking tool". The stakes were guided plumbly over
the holes that cold be rotated under the guide.
You might want to check out this URL to see what the anvil alone and
the staking took look like.
http://shorinternational.com/JewelingStaking.htm
"Jack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > Rob
>
> How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener
That worked out pretty good, I didn't know it was a P-38.
"bkr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> R.H. wrote:
>
> > Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> I'm sure someone's answered this already, but here are my answers:
>
> #236 is a bicycle chain link tool
> #237 looks like a crimping tool of some kind, though I couldn't say what
for
> #238 P-38 can opener, issued to GIs when rations were in cans, before
> MREs became the standard ration
These are all correct
> #239 Looks like one of those 70s plastic ashtrays but that's not it...
You're correct that it isn't an ashtray.
> #240 really funny pliers or spreaders of some kind...specific uses I
> have no idea though.
> #241 wire thickness guage
It's not a thickness gauge.
"Fred R" <"spam "@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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> 241 the anvil part of a staking press
Correct
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> So... is 239 a zoetrope or a zeotrope and what is it for?
>
I had to check, it's zoetrope, I think I've been pronouncing it wrong for
years. You put in strips of paper with drawings on it and then when you
spin it the drawings appear animated when viewed through the slots.
http://courses.ncssm.edu/gallery/collections/toys/html/exhibit10.htm
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:25:20 -0500, "George H Hughes"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>#238 is actually called a P38. It is a can opener that came about WWII and
>the Korean War for opening those infamous rations. They even ended up being
>given out along with some canned good in the stores at one time......
>I may even still have one or two around here some place....
You mean you dont keep one on your keychain?
Sigh..no pocket knife or cigarette lighter either I suppose...
Gunner
"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better,
on average, than the citizens of Baltimore.
True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee,
but why this is more stylish than
sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
-- P.J O'Rourke (1989)
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:39:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted a few more this morning:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
>
The easy ones:
236 is a bicycle chain link removal and replacement tool.
238 is a basic can-opener, of a type often found in shops specialising
in outdoor stuff.
Cheers - Ian
"Matthew Newell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> 236. (I've got one exactly like this) - it is for pushing
> out/replacing the removable rivet/pin in a bicycle chain
Correct
> 237 - (my micrometer is ls starrett and i'm english bought
> it in a junk sale it is beautiful engineering )this has
> gotta be some form of adjustable jaw cutters/nipper used
> from clipping tiles to shape - but the blades look round
> the wrong way
I'm not sure exactly what this one is for
> 238 (I've got one of these as well ) it's a tin opener, I
> believe it was a us military design/issue
Yes
>
> 239. (you've not broken into my home to take photos have
> you?) - my zoetrope looks just like this
Zeotrope is correct, and no I haven't broken into your house recently.
>
> 240
>
> 241 could be a drill bit holder d-i-y style
Nope
237.
Adjustable-Jaw Cut Nippers
http://catalog.starrett.com/catalog/catalog/groups.asp?GroupID=465
RellikJM
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just posted a few more this morning:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
"s2s" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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(snip)
> typewriter repair guy. It was for machines with the keys that flew up
> and hit a ribbon which transferred to the paper. You know, the kind
> that jammed all the time and got the letters messed up from hitting
> each other?
Typewriter? What is this "writer of types" you speak of? Keys flying up?
Ribbon?
> Boy, that brought up a few years I haven't thought about for a while.
You and me both. 8-)
C.
Who still has his trusty Manual Olympia close at hand, because, well,
You Never Know...
"Dave W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 240 is, you asked for it, a nostril spreader for examination purposes.
Yes, but you forgot to mention that it doubles as an automotive tool.
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:39:19 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted a few more this morning:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
>
#237: Connector crimping tool for coaxial cables. Hexagonal shape inside
the jaws is for the connector.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Just posted a few more this morning:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 236) Some sort of tool for pressing a pin out or in? Perhaps for
> roller drive chains?
Correct, it's for bike chains, I'm not familiar with roller drive chains.
> 237) A set of Starrett compound leverage end cutter pliers (Cutnippers).
> Except that the replaceable blades don't look right. I suspect
> that this has been modified to act as a crimper. These are
> normally avaialbe with either tool steel blades or carbide
> blades, and are normally used for cutting things like (hardened
> spring) music wire.
>
Yes, someone from Starrett also suggested that they might have been
modified.
> There are two sizes of these, and mine are the smaller ones (No
> 1-5-1/2"). This marking is right where the "S-Y" marking is on
> your example.
It's hard to read, but for the record mine says "S-7".
> Note that there is an adjustable stop screw in the center of the
> spring (from the left-hand handle a shown), to adjust so the
> blades *almost* but not quite touch after re-sharpening. (The
> instruction slip packed with them suggests 0.001" clearance.)
>
> But these have no edges, which is why I suggest that they have
> been modified to serve as some form of crimper.
>
> O.K. I've just gone on down to the next image, and the end
> shape supports my feeling. Note also, that the screw on the jaw
> to the right is totally non-standard, while the one on the left
> may well be original.
I hadn't noticed the stop screw, thanks for the info.
> 238) K-ration can opener.
Correct.
>
> 239) Some form of lens hood? I can't see the small end, to tell
> whether it is open, and threads into a lens. If so, the slots
> may allow the large end to be stored reversed on a lens body.
The bottom of this one isn't open, it's not a lens hood.
> 240) Pliers to expand the inside of something -- perhaps flexible
> tubing prior to slipping onto a fitting?
Yes, it's for expanding something, but not for tubing.
> 241) Jeweler's bench block. I've never known what function the
> slots along the near edge serve, but I suspect for holding a
> gear for filing or other work?
Correct.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just posted a few more this morning:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener