JS

"Joseph Smith"

11/06/2004 12:06 AM

Framing Glass for Military ShadowBox

I got nominated for making a shadowbox for a cooworker who is retiring.
I am an amatuer/weekend WW, but that's the best in my office at the moment.
Since the front will be lidded and have a glass pane so everyone can ooooh
and
ahhh over the years at his medals, ribbons, an etc... I am in the process of
figuring
out an easy way to accomplish this.
This is what i was going to do. Getting the glass cut to my needed
dimensions is
easy. lot of people around here for that. I was wondering if I used my
"raised
panel" stile and rail bits if that would suffice for this task, since they
would provide
the same interior groove I would use for a raised panel. Then I would slip
in the
glass pane in the grooves and attached my last wood piece to hold the glass
in
(rectangular). Hope I didn't confuse anyone.

Joey in chesapeake


This topic has 9 replies

JJ

in reply to "Joseph Smith" on 11/06/2004 12:06 AM

10/06/2004 8:10 PM

Fri, Jun 11, 2004, 12:06am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Joseph=A0Smith)
says:
I got nominated for making a shadowbox for a cooworker who is retiring.
<snip> Since the front will be lidded and have a glass pane so everyone
can ooooh and
ahhh over the years at his medals, ribbons, an etc...

Hmm, makes me wonder if he knows he's getting it. If not, betcha
gotta explain what it's for. Unless you've already got the medals,
etc., in it.

On a personal note, if I ever got something like that, I don't know
if I'd ever put any medals in it. I'd probably use it for something
else. I'm proud of what I got, and what I got them for, but that was in
another life.

On the other hand, a small wooden box, with a lid, would be kinda
nice. Stick it away, and every once in awhile pull it out, and just
look inside for a bit, then stick it away again. I figure nobody else
will really care anyway. Maybe include a small notebook, telling what
each is, when I got it, and what for, so the kids will know later.
Yeah, I might just make one of those for myself.



JOAT
You know it's gonna be a bad day, when you turn on the news and they're
showing escape routes out of the city.

Gn

"George"

in reply to "Joseph Smith" on 11/06/2004 12:06 AM

10/06/2004 11:07 PM

If the contents of the shadowbox has important keepsakes (like ribbons or
papers) that could be harmed by UV rays in normal sunlight, you might want
to do what most museums do and use OP-3 acrylic instead of glass. The last
time I bought some it was about $0.08 per square inch for the regular and
slightly more for the abrasion resistant.

"Joseph Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I got nominated for making a shadowbox for a cooworker who is retiring.
> I am an amatuer/weekend WW, but that's the best in my office at the
moment.
> Since the front will be lidded and have a glass pane so everyone can ooooh
> and
> ahhh over the years at his medals, ribbons, an etc... I am in the process
of
> figuring
> out an easy way to accomplish this.
> This is what i was going to do. Getting the glass cut to my needed
> dimensions is
> easy. lot of people around here for that. I was wondering if I used my
> "raised
> panel" stile and rail bits if that would suffice for this task, since they
> would provide
> the same interior groove I would use for a raised panel. Then I would
slip
> in the
> glass pane in the grooves and attached my last wood piece to hold the
glass
> in
> (rectangular). Hope I didn't confuse anyone.
>
> Joey in chesapeake
>
>

dA

[email protected] (Andy Dingley)

in reply to "Joseph Smith" on 11/06/2004 12:06 AM

11/06/2004 6:46 AM

[email protected] (J T) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> On the other hand, a small wooden box, with a lid, would be kinda
> nice.

I'd make one with two lids. The outer is solid wood, the inner is
glazed. Use quadrant hinges for the outer (solid) lid, so that it
stays open unassisted.

That way you get all three options; closed and not so blatant,
viewable through glass with dust protection etc., and open for access.


The http://amol.org.au/recollections/ site has lots of useful
information on museum-grade conservation, UV fading etc.

JJ

in reply to [email protected] (Andy Dingley) on 11/06/2004 6:46 AM

11/06/2004 6:12 PM

Fri, Jun 11, 2004, 6:46am (EDT-3) [email protected]
(Andy=A0Dingley) says:
I'd make one with two lids. The outer is solid wood, the inner is
glazed. Use quadrant hinges for the outer (solid) lid, so that it stays
open unassisted.
That way you get all three options; closed and not so blatant, viewable
through glass with dust protection etc., and open for access.

I go along with the solid lid, and it staying up, but not an inner
lid. Way I figure, I'd probably be about the only one looking, and I
don't think I'd want to look at memories through glass, or plastic. I'd
just stick with a decent, smallish, wooden box (shopmade, of course, not
bought), I could stick somewhere, handy enough to pull out once in
awhile, look for a bit, then put back. It's one of those, "If you
weren't there, you'll never understand", things.

JOAT
You know it's gonna be a bad day, when you turn on the news and they're
showing escape routes out of the city.

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Joseph Smith" on 11/06/2004 12:06 AM

11/06/2004 8:03 AM

You probably noticed that the rail/style bits give you a 1/4" groove which
you'll have to shim to hold the plastic, which is, by the way, nicer, and
easier to work with, especially with big stuff. Made a frame for my
daughter's fiancé's college jersey last Christmas - wife's choice - and the
lighter plastic really makes sense when you're marrying a former offensive
tackle!

With permanently closed items like picture frames, it's especially important
to have an antistatic spray or wipe on hand. There's always dust stuck to
the plastic in the most obvious places, else.

Now were those medals or ribbons in the box he threw over the fence....

"Joseph Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That sounds like a good idea. Tks
> "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > If the contents of the shadowbox has important keepsakes (like ribbons
or
> > papers) that could be harmed by UV rays in normal sunlight, you might
want
> > to do what most museums do and use OP-3 acrylic instead of glass. The
> last
> > time I bought some it was about $0.08 per square inch for the regular
and
> > slightly more for the abrasion resistant.
> >
> > "Joseph Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I got nominated for making a shadowbox for a cooworker who is
retiring.
> > > I am an amatuer/weekend WW, but that's the best in my office at the
> > moment.
> > > Since the front will be lidded and have a glass pane so everyone can
> ooooh
> > > and
> > > ahhh over the years at his medals, ribbons, an etc... I am in the
> process
> > of
> > > figuring
> > > out an easy way to accomplish this.

JS

"Joseph Smith"

in reply to "Joseph Smith" on 11/06/2004 12:06 AM

11/06/2004 1:13 PM

Excellent advice and very funny!
But even though we're at the end of our military careers
in my office we are all too young for the fence throwing thing.
How time does fly, though.
"George" <george@least> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You probably noticed that the rail/style bits give you a 1/4" groove which
> you'll have to shim to hold the plastic, which is, by the way, nicer, and
> easier to work with, especially with big stuff. Made a frame for my
> daughter's fiancé's college jersey last Christmas - wife's choice - and
the
> lighter plastic really makes sense when you're marrying a former offensive
> tackle!
>
> With permanently closed items like picture frames, it's especially
important
> to have an antistatic spray or wipe on hand. There's always dust stuck to
> the plastic in the most obvious places, else.
>
> Now were those medals or ribbons in the box he threw over the fence....
>
> "Joseph Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > That sounds like a good idea. Tks
> > "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > If the contents of the shadowbox has important keepsakes (like ribbons
> or
> > > papers) that could be harmed by UV rays in normal sunlight, you might
> want
> > > to do what most museums do and use OP-3 acrylic instead of glass. The
> > last
> > > time I bought some it was about $0.08 per square inch for the regular
> and
> > > slightly more for the abrasion resistant.
> > >
> > > "Joseph Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I got nominated for making a shadowbox for a cooworker who is
> retiring.
> > > > I am an amatuer/weekend WW, but that's the best in my office at the
> > > moment.
> > > > Since the front will be lidded and have a glass pane so everyone can
> > ooooh
> > > > and
> > > > ahhh over the years at his medals, ribbons, an etc... I am in the
> > process
> > > of
> > > > figuring
> > > > out an easy way to accomplish this.
>
>

JS

"Joseph Smith"

in reply to "Joseph Smith" on 11/06/2004 12:06 AM

11/06/2004 1:34 AM

He knows and I got the medals for it on hand but not
mounted in the box yet. A shadowbox is pretty standard
around here. Most retirement ceremonies include the presentation
of one to the sevicemember (if he/she wants one). This one I designed
a little differently for him. The glass lid will be hinged and latched so
he'll be able to get to his medals if he does the VFW thing and
needs to get dressed up.


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Fri, Jun 11, 2004, 12:06am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Joseph Smith)
says:
I got nominated for making a shadowbox for a cooworker who is retiring.
<snip> Since the front will be lidded and have a glass pane so everyone
can ooooh and
ahhh over the years at his medals, ribbons, an etc...

Hmm, makes me wonder if he knows he's getting it. If not, betcha
gotta explain what it's for. Unless you've already got the medals,
etc., in it.

On a personal note, if I ever got something like that, I don't know
if I'd ever put any medals in it. I'd probably use it for something
else. I'm proud of what I got, and what I got them for, but that was in
another life.

On the other hand, a small wooden box, with a lid, would be kinda
nice. Stick it away, and every once in awhile pull it out, and just
look inside for a bit, then stick it away again. I figure nobody else
will really care anyway. Maybe include a small notebook, telling what
each is, when I got it, and what for, so the kids will know later.
Yeah, I might just make one of those for myself.



JOAT
You know it's gonna be a bad day, when you turn on the news and they're
showing escape routes out of the city.

JS

"Joseph Smith"

in reply to "Joseph Smith" on 11/06/2004 12:06 AM

11/06/2004 10:15 AM

That sounds like a good idea. Tks
"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If the contents of the shadowbox has important keepsakes (like ribbons or
> papers) that could be harmed by UV rays in normal sunlight, you might want
> to do what most museums do and use OP-3 acrylic instead of glass. The
last
> time I bought some it was about $0.08 per square inch for the regular and
> slightly more for the abrasion resistant.
>
> "Joseph Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I got nominated for making a shadowbox for a cooworker who is retiring.
> > I am an amatuer/weekend WW, but that's the best in my office at the
> moment.
> > Since the front will be lidded and have a glass pane so everyone can
ooooh
> > and
> > ahhh over the years at his medals, ribbons, an etc... I am in the
process
> of
> > figuring
> > out an easy way to accomplish this.
> > This is what i was going to do. Getting the glass cut to my needed
> > dimensions is
> > easy. lot of people around here for that. I was wondering if I used
my
> > "raised
> > panel" stile and rail bits if that would suffice for this task, since
they
> > would provide
> > the same interior groove I would use for a raised panel. Then I would
> slip
> > in the
> > glass pane in the grooves and attached my last wood piece to hold the
> glass
> > in
> > (rectangular). Hope I didn't confuse anyone.
> >
> > Joey in chesapeake
> >
> >
>
>

rr

"rj"

in reply to "Joseph Smith" on 11/06/2004 12:06 AM

11/06/2004 2:29 AM

The little box and notebook is a great idea, wonder which box in the attic
holds my old military stuff .
RJ
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Fri, Jun 11, 2004, 12:06am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Joseph Smith)
says:
I got nominated for making a shadowbox for a cooworker who is retiring.
<snip> Since the front will be lidded and have a glass pane so everyone
can ooooh and
ahhh over the years at his medals, ribbons, an etc...

Hmm, makes me wonder if he knows he's getting it. If not, betcha
gotta explain what it's for. Unless you've already got the medals,
etc., in it.

On a personal note, if I ever got something like that, I don't know
if I'd ever put any medals in it. I'd probably use it for something
else. I'm proud of what I got, and what I got them for, but that was in
another life.

On the other hand, a small wooden box, with a lid, would be kinda
nice. Stick it away, and every once in awhile pull it out, and just
look inside for a bit, then stick it away again. I figure nobody else
will really care anyway. Maybe include a small notebook, telling what
each is, when I got it, and what for, so the kids will know later.
Yeah, I might just make one of those for myself.



JOAT
You know it's gonna be a bad day, when you turn on the news and they're
showing escape routes out of the city.


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