I've finally gotten around to tidying up the side of our house so that
I can build a shed. I'm thinking of using it to store some of our
larger ugly stuff (eg, wheelbarrow, lawnmower, rakes, etc). Also, I'm
guessing it might be safer to put my gasoline/propane tanks in it
instead of keeping them in my garage.
Anyway, here's a pic of the side area:
http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-bigpic.JPG
Just in case it's not obvious, I plan to build the shed over the dirt
area. If I build the shed all the way to the gate, the length would be
12'. However, if I build it shorter to allow the gate to fully open,
then the maximum length the shed could have is 8.5'. (The width in
both cases would be 3' to allow sufficient space for the paver
walkway. I haven't settled on a height for the shed, but my neighbors
are fine as long as it's no taller than 10".)
I took some pics of the gate in various positions, and laid some rocks
just to better illustrate the path of the door:
http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-1close.jpg
http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-2mid.jpg
http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-3open.jpg
My first question: Would you go with a 12' long shed, or would you
leave room so the gate can fully open? (At this point in time, I can't
think of a reason why I'd need the gate to fully open. But then again,
I'm not the brightest at thinking of all the scenarios possible.)
My next question is regarding shed plans.... Here are my door
requirements:
1) I want the shed to have a door at the lower left hand side of the
picture. (Sorry about the junk in the pic--I forgot to move it out of
the way beforehand.) The reason I'd like a door there is so that I can
conveniently roll the lawnmower into the shed.
2) I also want the shed to have a door of some sort along the length
of the shed so that I can easily access other stuff (eg, wheelbarrow)
without having to first remove the lawnmower.
Any idea where I can get plans for a shed with these specs? (FYI, as a
first time homeowner, I try to be handy whenever possible, but I don't
have a whole lot of experience just yet. I do have basic tools,
though, as well as a miter saw and circular saw.)
Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> My first question: Would you go with a 12' long shed, or would you
> leave room so the gate can fully open?
Since your proposed shed is so narrow, only 3 feet wide, you may want
to make it as long as possible. So far as the gate is concerned, it
can be temporarily removed if at some point it is in the way.
>
> Any idea where I can get plans for a shed with these specs?
There will be no plans with specs for a 3 foot wide shed unless it is
a woodshed. Considering your situation you might consider making it
like a wood shed with a shed roof and open walls.
The most straightforward way is to dig holes for supports at the
corners and plant a treated 4x4 in each corner. Then frame it up like
any pole barn. Any book on pole barns or residential framing will
give you the details.
This type of construction greatly simplifies the framing compared to
stud walls and gives you a totally open design allowing you to put in
doors at any location. You could even go without doors or walls, like
a wood shed, perhaps having a tarp stretched over the framework rather
than solid walls. Out of sight, out of mind?
My real opinion is that this is not a good space for a shed. Not only
is the space too narrow but the fence is in the way. And which way
will the water from the shed roof drain?? It will drain towards the
fence possible damaging it and perhaps upsetting the neighbors.
3 foot wide shed? If each wall is 6 inches thick the inside will be 2 feet
wide!
You can change the gate so it opens the other direction.
The fence and gate can be one end and back.
I would just put a roof up and build it so it overhangs the path.
Leave the front open for access next to the path. No doors.
If you wish another gate could be installed to create the other end of the
shed and control access.
"sohungry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've finally gotten around to tidying up the side of our house so that
> I can build a shed. I'm thinking of using it to store some of our
> larger ugly stuff (eg, wheelbarrow, lawnmower, rakes, etc). Also, I'm
> guessing it might be safer to put my gasoline/propane tanks in it
> instead of keeping them in my garage.
>
> Anyway, here's a pic of the side area:
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-bigpic.JPG
>
> Just in case it's not obvious, I plan to build the shed over the dirt
> area. If I build the shed all the way to the gate, the length would be
> 12'. However, if I build it shorter to allow the gate to fully open,
> then the maximum length the shed could have is 8.5'. (The width in
> both cases would be 3' to allow sufficient space for the paver
> walkway. I haven't settled on a height for the shed, but my neighbors
> are fine as long as it's no taller than 10".)
>
> I took some pics of the gate in various positions, and laid some rocks
> just to better illustrate the path of the door:
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-1close.jpg
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-2mid.jpg
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-3open.jpg
>
> My first question: Would you go with a 12' long shed, or would you
> leave room so the gate can fully open? (At this point in time, I can't
> think of a reason why I'd need the gate to fully open. But then again,
> I'm not the brightest at thinking of all the scenarios possible.)
>
> My next question is regarding shed plans.... Here are my door
> requirements:
> 1) I want the shed to have a door at the lower left hand side of the
> picture. (Sorry about the junk in the pic--I forgot to move it out of
> the way beforehand.) The reason I'd like a door there is so that I can
> conveniently roll the lawnmower into the shed.
> 2) I also want the shed to have a door of some sort along the length
> of the shed so that I can easily access other stuff (eg, wheelbarrow)
> without having to first remove the lawnmower.
>
> Any idea where I can get plans for a shed with these specs? (FYI, as a
> first time homeowner, I try to be handy whenever possible, but I don't
> have a whole lot of experience just yet. I do have basic tools,
> though, as well as a miter saw and circular saw.)
>
> Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
sohungry wrote:
> I've finally gotten around to tidying up the side of our house so that
> I can build a shed. I'm thinking of using it to store some of our
> larger ugly stuff (eg, wheelbarrow, lawnmower, rakes, etc). Also, I'm
> guessing it might be safer to put my gasoline/propane tanks in it
> instead of keeping them in my garage.
>
> Anyway, here's a pic of the side area:
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-bigpic.JPG
Just adding my two cents worth here:
Consider a sliding door (or two) across the front of the shed. If you
re-hinge the gate, it could swing shut and latch on the corner of the
shed. Most especially, it could swing outward.
I actually think the suggestion to NOT enclose it (just roof it) is a
good one. Once paved, it should be simple enough to keep neat and
presentable. Possibly limit storage there to lawn & garden tools with
one end lockable for various chemicals such as fuels, fertilizers and
pesticides.
I think the walkway is going to feel cramped with a shed there. You may
want to put a gutter on the shed rather than drain into the neighbors
yard. He might be agreeable to that but, if he ever sells the house, the
next guy might raise objections. Alternatively, slope the roof to the
right or the left. Do NOT 'do a Jonestown' on the site of a future
flower garden.
Bill
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Sat, Jun 16, 2007, 12:30am (EDT+4) [email protected] (sohungry) came
in and mumbled:
<snip> Here are my door
requirements:
1) I want the shed to have a door at the lower left hand side of the
picture. (Sorry about the junk in the pic--I forgot to move it out of
the way beforehand.) The reason I'd like a door there is so that I can
conveniently roll the lawnmower into the shed.
2) I also want the shed to have a door of some sort along the length of
the shed so that I can easily access other stuff (eg, wheelbarrow)
without having to first remove the lawnmower. <snip>
I've got news for you. A door on the end is well enough, but I'd
want a lot more than just one door along the length. I'd want several.
You're gonna wind up stuffing all sorts of stuff in there, and I for
one, would not feel like trying to get it thru a 3' wide space to an
opening. Doors, lots of doors.
JOAT
If a man does his best, what else is there?
- General George S. Patton
sohungry wrote:
> I've finally gotten around to tidying up the side of our house so that
> I can build a shed. I'm thinking of using it to store some of our
> larger ugly stuff (eg, wheelbarrow, lawnmower, rakes, etc). Also, I'm
> guessing it might be safer to put my gasoline/propane tanks in it
> instead of keeping them in my garage.
>
> Anyway, here's a pic of the side area:
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-bigpic.JPG
>
> Just in case it's not obvious, I plan to build the shed over the dirt
> area. If I build the shed all the way to the gate, the length would be
> 12'. However, if I build it shorter to allow the gate to fully open,
> then the maximum length the shed could have is 8.5'. (The width in
> both cases would be 3' to allow sufficient space for the paver
> walkway. I haven't settled on a height for the shed, but my neighbors
> are fine as long as it's no taller than 10".)
>
> I took some pics of the gate in various positions, and laid some rocks
> just to better illustrate the path of the door:
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-1close.jpg
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-2mid.jpg
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-3open.jpg
>
> My first question: Would you go with a 12' long shed, or would you
> leave room so the gate can fully open? (At this point in time, I can't
> think of a reason why I'd need the gate to fully open. But then again,
> I'm not the brightest at thinking of all the scenarios possible.)
>
> My next question is regarding shed plans.... Here are my door
> requirements:
> 1) I want the shed to have a door at the lower left hand side of the
> picture. (Sorry about the junk in the pic--I forgot to move it out of
> the way beforehand.) The reason I'd like a door there is so that I can
> conveniently roll the lawnmower into the shed.
> 2) I also want the shed to have a door of some sort along the length
> of the shed so that I can easily access other stuff (eg, wheelbarrow)
> without having to first remove the lawnmower.
>
> Any idea where I can get plans for a shed with these specs? (FYI, as a
> first time homeowner, I try to be handy whenever possible, but I don't
> have a whole lot of experience just yet. I do have basic tools,
> though, as well as a miter saw and circular saw.)
>
> Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
I have actually seen this kind of shed sold in hardware house.Also pool
companies have similar ones for store away the filter and other stuff
that is needed for salt water pools ( they are normally narrow and long
to fit on the side of the pool next to the fence). it is made out of
colourbond (tin), which makes sense in your case, you do not have to
worry about the thickness of the walls. And as a bonus they are really
cheap. I think they are abut the 200 Au dollars. All you do is to
either make some sort of base eg concrete, timber, paver's etc. or just
leave it as is and plunk the shed on it.
cheers
Al
"sohungry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've finally gotten around to tidying up the side of our house so that
> I can build a shed. I'm thinking of using it to store some of our
> larger ugly stuff (eg, wheelbarrow, lawnmower, rakes, etc). Also, I'm
> guessing it might be safer to put my gasoline/propane tanks in it
> instead of keeping them in my garage.
>
> Anyway, here's a pic of the side area:
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-bigpic.JPG
>
> Just in case it's not obvious, I plan to build the shed over the dirt
> area. If I build the shed all the way to the gate, the length would be
> 12'. However, if I build it shorter to allow the gate to fully open,
> then the maximum length the shed could have is 8.5'. (The width in
> both cases would be 3' to allow sufficient space for the paver
> walkway. I haven't settled on a height for the shed, but my neighbors
> are fine as long as it's no taller than 10".)
>
> I took some pics of the gate in various positions, and laid some rocks
> just to better illustrate the path of the door:
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-1close.jpg
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-2mid.jpg
> http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07246/asdf-3open.jpg
>
> My first question: Would you go with a 12' long shed, or would you
> leave room so the gate can fully open? (At this point in time, I can't
> think of a reason why I'd need the gate to fully open. But then again,
> I'm not the brightest at thinking of all the scenarios possible.)
>
> My next question is regarding shed plans.... Here are my door
> requirements:
> 1) I want the shed to have a door at the lower left hand side of the
> picture. (Sorry about the junk in the pic--I forgot to move it out of
> the way beforehand.) The reason I'd like a door there is so that I can
> conveniently roll the lawnmower into the shed.
> 2) I also want the shed to have a door of some sort along the length
> of the shed so that I can easily access other stuff (eg, wheelbarrow)
> without having to first remove the lawnmower.
>
> Any idea where I can get plans for a shed with these specs? (FYI, as a
> first time homeowner, I try to be handy whenever possible, but I don't
> have a whole lot of experience just yet. I do have basic tools,
> though, as well as a miter saw and circular saw.)
>
> Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
Is the fence yours or the neighbors?
3' isn't very much room. Conventional framing would take up quite a bit. If
the fence is yours, I would remove 2 sections leaving the posts. Then frame
as a polebarn as described in a previous post. You can always match the new
siding for your shed to the old fence maybe even using the old fence as the
siding.
You will really want to think about water drainage from the roof.
Also I would leave the sides open. Go to the BORG and buy some outdoor roll
up shades to use as the doors. They come in 3'-8' lengths. As far as the
floor, either regrade the floor and add some gravel or extend the pavers to
the rest of the area.
Some pictures from the other side of the fence would be helpful.
Allen