LM

"Lee Michaels"

19/04/2010 12:05 AM

Cordless Eggbeater Drill

All this talk of cordless and corded drills. I miss my old eggbeater drill.
A former room mate decided it was his. I had been thinking about getting one
since I need one once in a great while. But mostly for nostalgia. A useful
item mind you, just probably not essential.

Well, today I am helping to install some wiring in a small home studio. I
needed to drill some pilot holes. He had no drill and I brought in my
cordless makita and found both batteries dead. I forgot to recharge them
after the last job. I can't complain too much since the batteries usually
stay charged till the job is done. But the drill don't work too good
without a charged battery.

So I needed an eggbeater drill. I found a modern, plastic covered version at
the Ace Hardware down the street. I thought it looked ugly and I wouldn't
have bought it unless I needed it today.

I just didn't feel right holding a pistol grip eggbeater drill. But it holds
up to a 1/4' drilll in in its chuck. It is a little awkward to tighten the
chuck. But amazingly, it worked like a champ. It made all my pilot holes
quickly and easily. It drilled through both soft and hard material without
any problem. In fact the biggest problem I had was that it worked a little
too good and I could easliy punch through the material. I needed to drill
slowly and carefully to stay in the material.

So I got a new cordless drill today. And I never have to worry about
batteries with this thing. I am going to keep it in the house for odd jobs.

And both batteries are charged now.





This topic has 33 replies

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 5:29 AM

On Apr 19, 12:05=A0am, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*[email protected]> wrote:
> All this talk of cordless and corded drills. I miss my old eggbeater dril=
l.
> A former room mate decided it was his. I had been thinking about getting =
one
> since I need one once in a great while. But mostly for nostalgia. A usefu=
l
> item mind you, just probably not essential.
>
> Well, today I am helping to install some wiring in a small home studio. I
> needed to drill some pilot holes. He had no drill and I brought in my
> cordless makita and found both batteries dead. I forgot to recharge them
> after the last job. I can't complain too much since the batteries usually
> stay charged till the job is done. =A0But the drill don't work too good
> without a charged battery.
>
> So I needed an eggbeater drill. I found a modern, plastic covered version=
at
> the Ace Hardware down the street. =A0I thought it looked ugly and I would=
n't
> have bought it unless I needed it today.
>
> I just didn't feel right holding a pistol grip eggbeater drill. But it ho=
lds
> up to a 1/4' drilll in in its chuck. It is a little awkward to tighten th=
e
> chuck. =A0But amazingly, it worked like a champ. It made all my pilot hol=
es
> quickly and easily. It drilled through both soft and hard material withou=
t
> any problem. In fact the biggest problem I had was that it worked a littl=
e
> too good and I could easliy punch through the material. I needed to drill
> slowly and carefully to stay in the material.
>
> So I got a new cordless drill today. And I never have to worry about
> batteries with this thing. I am going to keep it in the house for odd job=
s.
>
> And both batteries are charged now.

Even if batteries are the means to make a drill portable, it is not
really completely 'cordless' as you are now depending on a cord AND
your memory to do all that complex recharging.
An eggbeater drill, on the other hand, is truly independent from any
cords/chargers or fleeting memory. I would spend a decent buck for a
quality egg-beater drill. Ball bearings, a nice case, a quality chuck.
Maybe Rolex can make us one....I meant Festool.

NH

N Hurst

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

21/04/2010 7:01 AM

Do you have any advice as to how to sharpen the bits? I have a push
drill, I don't think it's a Stanley, but I've snapped the smallest
bit, and some of the bigger ones don't cut as fast.

I'm pretty sure my Drill Doctor won't sharpen these very well. :-)

On Apr 19, 10:27=A0am, Dddudley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/19/2010 8:11 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 4/19/2010 6:26 AM, burtwitlin wrote:
> >> Lee,
>
> >> I've got an old one plus 2 of the really old crank types, but the kind
> >> I really find usefull is the push type. They work lik a Yankee
> >> Screwdriver. You push the handle and the drill bit turns. The bits are
> >> in the handle. Just great for drilling a bunch of pilot holes quickly.
>
> > I would kind of like to have an old fashioned Yankee Drill. My father
> > was a carpenter and we always had one around the house. They
> > were really handy for pilot holes. You just put in the appropriate
> > bit, then pumped the handle a few times and there it was.
>
> > Hmm, I hadn't thought, but maybe Google would help me. Well, there are
> > a bunch of listings, but checking Amazon they are out and don't know if
> > they will get any more. I bet if I look around I can find one.
>
> Search "Yankee Push Drill" or "Stanley Push Drill" on eBay and you'll
> find quite a number of them. =A0Everything from the bit sets themselves t=
o
> the whole thing. =A0Not too badly priced either.
>
> There's a No. 41 with 7 bits, 99% of the finish intact for $25 Buy it
> Now and $5 shipping.
>
> I'd jump on it myself if I didn't already have one in the shop. =A0Handy
> buggers.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 7:47 AM

On Apr 19, 9:45=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Robatoy" =A0wrote
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=3D1&p=3D32294&cat=3D1,180,42337=
&ap=3D1
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> <drool>
>
> A little more than I wanted to spend. But ocviously a nice one.

If you have a little more room to swing, and some more cash, then
you'll probably have some more drool.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/Commemorative+Tools/CT-16+Palm+Brac=
e

R

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 9:45 AM


"Robatoy" wrote

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32294&cat=1,180,42337&ap=1
============

<drool>

A little more than I wanted to spend. But ocviously a nice one.


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 9:50 AM


"burtwitlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:e2831db8-321f-4372-87d4-7887e42120f9@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> Lee,
>
> I've got an old one plus 2 of the really old crank types, but the kind
> I really find usefull is the push type. They work lik a Yankee
> Screwdriver. You push the handle and the drill bit turns. The bits are
> in the handle. Just great for drilling a bunch of pilot holes quickly.

I don't know why I didn't think of that. Back in the day, I had several
yankee screwdrivers. They were the original cordless screwdrivers. I am
fairly certain that they were not available yesterday when I needed
something fast.

i had a friend who was getting a masters degree in fine arts (drama). They
used the yankee screwdrivers to build and break down all the sets for his
stage productions.


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 9:52 AM


"Robatoy" wrote

An eggbeater drill, on the other hand, is truly independent from any
cords/chargers or fleeting memory.
================

Fleeting memory?? FLEETING MEMORY??

Harumph!

Hey, I resemble that remark.


Nn

Nova

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 10:22 AM

Bill Gill wrote:

>
> I would kind of like to have an old fashioned Yankee Drill. My father
> was a carpenter and we always had one around the house. They
> were really handy for pilot holes. You just put in the appropriate
> bit, then pumped the handle a few times and there it was.
>
> Hmm, I hadn't thought, but maybe Google would help me. Well, there are
> a bunch of listings, but checking Amazon they are out and don't know if
> they will get any more. I bet if I look around I can find one.
>
> Bill
>

http://www.garrettwade.com/product.asp?pn=69P01.01&bhcd2=1271686930

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

Dp

Dddudley

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 9:27 AM

On 4/19/2010 8:11 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
> On 4/19/2010 6:26 AM, burtwitlin wrote:
>> Lee,
>>
>> I've got an old one plus 2 of the really old crank types, but the kind
>> I really find usefull is the push type. They work lik a Yankee
>> Screwdriver. You push the handle and the drill bit turns. The bits are
>> in the handle. Just great for drilling a bunch of pilot holes quickly.
>
> I would kind of like to have an old fashioned Yankee Drill. My father
> was a carpenter and we always had one around the house. They
> were really handy for pilot holes. You just put in the appropriate
> bit, then pumped the handle a few times and there it was.
>
> Hmm, I hadn't thought, but maybe Google would help me. Well, there are
> a bunch of listings, but checking Amazon they are out and don't know if
> they will get any more. I bet if I look around I can find one.

Search "Yankee Push Drill" or "Stanley Push Drill" on eBay and you'll
find quite a number of them. Everything from the bit sets themselves to
the whole thing. Not too badly priced either.

There's a No. 41 with 7 bits, 99% of the finish intact for $25 Buy it
Now and $5 shipping.

I'd jump on it myself if I didn't already have one in the shop. Handy
buggers.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 10:44 AM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> http://www.garrettwade.com/product.asp?pn=69P01.01&bhcd2=1271686930
>
Nice. And their version of the eggbeater drill. (A lower cost version than
the Lee Valley model)

http://www.garrettwade.com/a-real-solid-hand-drill/p/89B04.01/


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 10:46 AM


"HeyBub" wrote
>
> Luddite.
Hardly. I use a lot of technology in my work. But sometimes simple is best.


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 9:55 PM


"Elrond Hubbard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> It is a little awkward to
>> tighten the chuck.
>
> The second time you snag the webbing of your thumb between the pinion and
> crank wheel gears while tightening the chuck, you'll understand that it is
> a sign of intelligence to recognize that you've made the same mistake
> twice.
>
> I love my eggbeater, but it's bitten me worse than some of my corded
> friends.

I have a modern version of this old drill. It is completely enclosed with no
exposed gears. I think it is ugly but no pinching.

It is a cheapie. But I am not really placing any real demands on it.




Sk

Steve

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

20/04/2010 12:24 AM

On 2010-04-19 09:11:36 -0400, Bill Gill <[email protected]> said:

> I would kind of like to have an old fashioned Yankee Drill.

Hey, kid! You'll put your eye out with that thing!

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 9:53 PM


"J. Clarke" wrote:

> 40 bucks is about the right price for that. I can't believe they're
> asking almost 200 bucks for a glorified Panavise.
-----------------------------------------
First saw a Panavise in the early '60s.

Still have one in it's box, buried in a desk drawer someplace.

Lew



Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 6:47 AM

On Apr 19, 9:11=A0am, Bill Gill <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/19/2010 6:26 AM, burtwitlin wrote:
>
> > Lee,
>
> > I've got an old one plus 2 of the really old crank types, but the kind
> > I really find usefull is the push type. They work lik a Yankee
> > Screwdriver. You push the handle and the drill bit turns. The bits are
> > in the handle. Just great for drilling a bunch of pilot holes quickly.
>
> I would kind of like to have an old fashioned Yankee Drill. =A0My father
> was a carpenter and we always had one around the house. =A0They
> were really handy for pilot holes. =A0You just put in the appropriate
> bit, then pumped the handle a few times and there it was.
>
> Hmm, I hadn't thought, but maybe Google would help me. =A0Well, there are
> a bunch of listings, but checking Amazon they are out and don't know if
> they will get any more. =A0I bet if I look around I can find one.

They're all over eBay. Stanley's lineup included the 41 and 45. I
like the 45 as it fits the hand better - looks better, too!

R

bf

burtwitlin

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

20/04/2010 9:13 AM

> Even if batteries are the means to make a drill portable, it is not
> really completely 'cordless' as you are now depending on a cord AND
> your memory to do all that complex recharging.
> An eggbeater drill, on the other hand, is truly independent from any
> cords/chargers or fleeting memory.

For a lot of things. I just got through helping my son hang sheetrock
after gutting part of his kitchen. I would f...ing hate to try that
with an egbeater (which I own) or even a crankshaft drill (I've got
2). We used a Rigid 12V and it was a dream to use. I don't need
lectures from you 18V guys - the ergonimics of the Rigid beats the
c..p out of any drill that has that lump at the base. When the battery
went we just stuck it in the charger and used the 2nd battery (it
comes with 2 batteries & charger & case for $99). Before the 2nd one
went dead, the 1st was charged. Its got a clutch lock-out and 16
clutch settings, key free chuck (with no lock button needed, thank you
very much), a light on the work area, reverse, variable speed, and
plenty enough torque to drive deck screws and drill cast iron and
steel. No conflict of interest. It's just one of the 2 best hand tool
purchases I ever made. The other was a Bosch jigsaw. More features
than Carter has little peanuts. I better get off this soapbox.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

22/04/2010 5:31 PM

On Apr 19, 12:05=A0am, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*[email protected]> wrote:
> All this talk of cordless and corded drills. I miss my old eggbeater dril=
l.
> A former room mate decided it was his. I had been thinking about getting =
one
> since I need one once in a great while. But mostly for nostalgia. A usefu=
l
> item mind you, just probably not essential.
>
> Well, today I am helping to install some wiring in a small home studio. I
> needed to drill some pilot holes. He had no drill and I brought in my
> cordless makita and found both batteries dead. I forgot to recharge them
> after the last job. I can't complain too much since the batteries usually
> stay charged till the job is done. =A0But the drill don't work too good
> without a charged battery.
>
> So I needed an eggbeater drill. I found a modern, plastic covered version=
at
> the Ace Hardware down the street. =A0I thought it looked ugly and I would=
n't
> have bought it unless I needed it today.
>
> I just didn't feel right holding a pistol grip eggbeater drill. But it ho=
lds
> up to a 1/4' drilll in in its chuck. It is a little awkward to tighten th=
e
> chuck. =A0But amazingly, it worked like a champ. It made all my pilot hol=
es
> quickly and easily. It drilled through both soft and hard material withou=
t
> any problem. In fact the biggest problem I had was that it worked a littl=
e
> too good and I could easliy punch through the material. I needed to drill
> slowly and carefully to stay in the material.

Simplify bit changing by replacing the chuck with a keyed
Jacobs salvaged from a dead power drill.

These are great for drilling small holes within an inch of an
inside corner. Flea markets are the cheapest source. No
sense paying the better part of $100 for a new tool that only
sees occasional use.

I suppose you could always cobble together a bow drill
from the armature from a dead electric drill, a stick, and
a piece of rope.

EH

Elrond Hubbard

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

20/04/2010 1:02 AM

"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> It is a little awkward to
> tighten the chuck.

The second time you snag the webbing of your thumb between the pinion and
crank wheel gears while tightening the chuck, you'll understand that it is
a sign of intelligence to recognize that you've made the same mistake
twice.

I love my eggbeater, but it's bitten me worse than some of my corded
friends.

BG

Bill Gill

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 8:11 AM

On 4/19/2010 6:26 AM, burtwitlin wrote:
> Lee,
>
> I've got an old one plus 2 of the really old crank types, but the kind
> I really find usefull is the push type. They work lik a Yankee
> Screwdriver. You push the handle and the drill bit turns. The bits are
> in the handle. Just great for drilling a bunch of pilot holes quickly.

I would kind of like to have an old fashioned Yankee Drill. My father
was a carpenter and we always had one around the house. They
were really handy for pilot holes. You just put in the appropriate
bit, then pumped the handle a few times and there it was.

Hmm, I hadn't thought, but maybe Google would help me. Well, there are
a bunch of listings, but checking Amazon they are out and don't know if
they will get any more. I bet if I look around I can find one.

Bill

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 9:20 AM

Lee Michaels wrote:
> All this talk of cordless and corded drills. I miss my old eggbeater
> drill. A former room mate decided it was his. I had been thinking
> about getting one since I need one once in a great while. But mostly
> for nostalgia. A useful item mind you, just probably not essential.
>
> Well, today I am helping to install some wiring in a small home
> studio. I needed to drill some pilot holes. He had no drill and I
> brought in my cordless makita and found both batteries dead. I forgot
> to recharge them after the last job. I can't complain too much since
> the batteries usually stay charged till the job is done. But the
> drill don't work too good without a charged battery.
>
> So I needed an eggbeater drill. I found a modern, plastic covered
> version at the Ace Hardware down the street. I thought it looked
> ugly and I wouldn't have bought it unless I needed it today.
>
> I just didn't feel right holding a pistol grip eggbeater drill. But
> it holds up to a 1/4' drilll in in its chuck. It is a little awkward
> to tighten the chuck. But amazingly, it worked like a champ. It made
> all my pilot holes quickly and easily. It drilled through both soft
> and hard material without any problem. In fact the biggest problem I
> had was that it worked a little too good and I could easliy punch
> through the material. I needed to drill slowly and carefully to stay
> in the material.
> So I got a new cordless drill today. And I never have to worry about
> batteries with this thing. I am going to keep it in the house for odd
> jobs.
> And both batteries are charged now.

Luddite.

bf

burtwitlin

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 4:26 AM

Lee,

I've got an old one plus 2 of the really old crank types, but the kind
I really find usefull is the push type. They work lik a Yankee
Screwdriver. You push the handle and the drill bit turns. The bits are
in the handle. Just great for drilling a bunch of pilot holes quickly.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 5:42 AM

On Apr 19, 8:29=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 12:05=A0am, "Lee Michaels"
>
>
>
>
>
> <leemichaels*[email protected]> wrote:
> > All this talk of cordless and corded drills. I miss my old eggbeater dr=
ill.
> > A former room mate decided it was his. I had been thinking about gettin=
g one
> > since I need one once in a great while. But mostly for nostalgia. A use=
ful
> > item mind you, just probably not essential.
>
> > Well, today I am helping to install some wiring in a small home studio.=
I
> > needed to drill some pilot holes. He had no drill and I brought in my
> > cordless makita and found both batteries dead. I forgot to recharge the=
m
> > after the last job. I can't complain too much since the batteries usual=
ly
> > stay charged till the job is done. =A0But the drill don't work too good
> > without a charged battery.
>
> > So I needed an eggbeater drill. I found a modern, plastic covered versi=
on at
> > the Ace Hardware down the street. =A0I thought it looked ugly and I wou=
ldn't
> > have bought it unless I needed it today.
>
> > I just didn't feel right holding a pistol grip eggbeater drill. But it =
holds
> > up to a 1/4' drilll in in its chuck. It is a little awkward to tighten =
the
> > chuck. =A0But amazingly, it worked like a champ. It made all my pilot h=
oles
> > quickly and easily. It drilled through both soft and hard material with=
out
> > any problem. In fact the biggest problem I had was that it worked a lit=
tle
> > too good and I could easliy punch through the material. I needed to dri=
ll
> > slowly and carefully to stay in the material.
>
> > So I got a new cordless drill today. And I never have to worry about
> > batteries with this thing. I am going to keep it in the house for odd j=
obs.
>
> > And both batteries are charged now.
>
> Even if batteries are the means to make a drill portable, it is not
> really completely 'cordless' as you are now depending on a cord AND
> your memory to do all that complex recharging.
> An eggbeater drill, on the other hand, is truly independent from any
> cords/chargers or fleeting memory. I would spend a decent buck for a
> quality egg-beater drill. Ball bearings, a nice case, a quality chuck.
> Maybe Rolex can make us one....I meant Festool.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=3D1&p=3D32294&cat=3D1,180,42337&a=
p=3D1

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

18/04/2010 10:08 PM

"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> All this talk of cordless and corded drills. I miss my old eggbeater
> drill. A former room mate decided it was his. I had been thinking about
> getting one since I need one once in a great while. But mostly for
> nostalgia. A useful item mind you, just probably not essential.
>
> Well, today I am helping to install some wiring in a small home studio. I
> needed to drill some pilot holes. He had no drill and I brought in my
> cordless makita and found both batteries dead. I forgot to recharge them
> after the last job. I can't complain too much since the batteries usually
> stay charged till the job is done. But the drill don't work too good
> without a charged battery.
>
> So I needed an eggbeater drill. I found a modern, plastic covered version
> at the Ace Hardware down the street. I thought it looked ugly and I
> wouldn't have bought it unless I needed it today.

>
> I just didn't feel right holding a pistol grip eggbeater drill. But it
> holds up to a 1/4' drilll in in its chuck. It is a little awkward to
> tighten the chuck. But amazingly, it worked like a champ. It made all my
> pilot holes quickly and easily. It drilled through both soft and hard
> material without any problem. In fact the biggest problem I had was that
> it worked a little too good and I could easliy punch through the material.
> I needed to drill slowly and carefully to stay in the material.


I've had one of those for 20 years or so. It is a great little drill. No
Noise. As you say, it is a little awkward tightening the chuck. I capture
the crank handle between the forefinger and thumb of my left hand - right
into the web - and clasp the butt betwwen the other three fingers and the
palm. Then tighten the chuck with my right hand. Mine is a bright yellow
Screwball. The barrel is grooved to hold bits with an inner tube strength
rubber band. Very handy and very light weight.

>
> So I got a new cordless drill today. And I never have to worry about
> batteries with this thing. I am going to keep it in the house for odd
> jobs.
>
> And both batteries are charged now.
>
>
>
>
>

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 3:44 PM

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 00:05:20 -0400, Lee Michaels wrote:

> So I needed an eggbeater drill. I found a modern, plastic covered
> version at the Ace Hardware down the street. I thought it looked ugly
> and I wouldn't have bought it unless I needed it today.

I've got an small old eggbeater from Goodell-Pratt circa 1898 and a
somewhat newer larger one. ALso a couple of old push drills, one Goodell-
Pratt and one Stanley.

I love'em all :-).

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 3:46 PM

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:11:36 -0500, Bill Gill wrote:

> I would kind of like to have an old fashioned Yankee Drill. My father
> was a carpenter and we always had one around the house. They were
> really handy for pilot holes. You just put in the appropriate bit, then
> pumped the handle a few times and there it was.

There are Stanleys all over Ebay, but try to find a Goodell-Pratt if you
can. The G-P has, IMNSHO, much more convenient bit storage. But make
sure it has a full set of bits, they're easy to sharpen but hard to find.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 5:09 PM

"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:f319def7-ace4-4a7f-92c0-95978f38989b@k41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 19, 8:29 am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 12:05 am, "Lee Michaels"
>
>
>
>
>
> <leemichaels*[email protected]> wrote:
> > All this talk of cordless and corded drills. I miss my old eggbeater
> > drill.
> > A former room mate decided it was his. I had been thinking about getting
> > one
> > since I need one once in a great while. But mostly for nostalgia. A
> > useful
> > item mind you, just probably not essential.
>
> > Well, today I am helping to install some wiring in a small home studio.
> > I
> > needed to drill some pilot holes. He had no drill and I brought in my
> > cordless makita and found both batteries dead. I forgot to recharge them
> > after the last job. I can't complain too much since the batteries
> > usually
> > stay charged till the job is done. But the drill don't work too good
> > without a charged battery.
>
> > So I needed an eggbeater drill. I found a modern, plastic covered
> > version at
> > the Ace Hardware down the street. I thought it looked ugly and I
> > wouldn't
> > have bought it unless I needed it today.
>
> > I just didn't feel right holding a pistol grip eggbeater drill. But it
> > holds
> > up to a 1/4' drilll in in its chuck. It is a little awkward to tighten
> > the
> > chuck. But amazingly, it worked like a champ. It made all my pilot holes
> > quickly and easily. It drilled through both soft and hard material
> > without
> > any problem. In fact the biggest problem I had was that it worked a
> > little
> > too good and I could easliy punch through the material. I needed to
> > drill
> > slowly and carefully to stay in the material.
>
> > So I got a new cordless drill today. And I never have to worry about
> > batteries with this thing. I am going to keep it in the house for odd
> > jobs.
>
> > And both batteries are charged now.
>
> Even if batteries are the means to make a drill portable, it is not
> really completely 'cordless' as you are now depending on a cord AND
> your memory to do all that complex recharging.
> An eggbeater drill, on the other hand, is truly independent from any
> cords/chargers or fleeting memory. I would spend a decent buck for a
> quality egg-beater drill. Ball bearings, a nice case, a quality chuck.
> Maybe Rolex can make us one....I meant Festool.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32294&cat=1,180,42337&ap=1

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You can find old drills a lot cheaper than that.

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 5:11 PM

"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Apr 19, 9:45 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32294&cat=1,180,42337&ap=1
> ============
>
> <drool>
>
> A little more than I wanted to spend. But ocviously a nice one.

If you have a little more room to swing, and some more cash, then
you'll probably have some more drool.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/Commemorative+Tools/CT-16+Palm+Brace

R

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And dozens of the originals cropping up on eBay for far less an outlay ...

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 6:57 PM

"Elrond Hubbard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> It is a little awkward to
>> tighten the chuck.
>
> The second time you snag the webbing of your thumb between the pinion and
> crank wheel gears while tightening the chuck, you'll understand that it is
> a sign of intelligence to recognize that you've made the same mistake
> twice.
>
> I love my eggbeater, but it's bitten me worse than some of my corded
> friends.


The gears on the plastic eggbeaters are enclosed.

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 7:00 PM

"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Elrond Hubbard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> It is a little awkward to
>>> tighten the chuck.
>>
>> The second time you snag the webbing of your thumb between the pinion and
>> crank wheel gears while tightening the chuck, you'll understand that it
>> is
>> a sign of intelligence to recognize that you've made the same mistake
>> twice.
>>
>> I love my eggbeater, but it's bitten me worse than some of my corded
>> friends.
>
> I have a modern version of this old drill. It is completely enclosed with
> no exposed gears. I think it is ugly but no pinching.
>
> It is a cheapie. But I am not really placing any real demands on it.
>

Mine has been in use for about 20 years. Been dropped on concrete and had
various and sundry items dropped on it. They take a licking and keep on
drilling.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 9:55 PM

On 4/19/2010 8:11 PM, LDosser wrote:
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> On Apr 19, 9:45 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote
>>
>> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32294&cat=1,180,42337&ap=1
>> ============
>>
>> <drool>
>>
>> A little more than I wanted to spend. But ocviously a nice one.
>
> If you have a little more room to swing, and some more cash, then
> you'll probably have some more drool.
>
> http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/Commemorative+Tools/CT-16+Palm+Brace

Looking at their prices, there's no drool at all. Some of their stuff
is at a level where you can almost buy the machine shop to make it for
the price of the tool. They're clearly aiming at a sucker market and
not at people who are buying tools to do work.

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 7:16 PM

"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/19/2010 8:11 PM, LDosser wrote:
>> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> On Apr 19, 9:45 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> "Robatoy" wrote
>>>
>>> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32294&cat=1,180,42337&ap=1
>>> ============
>>>
>>> <drool>
>>>
>>> A little more than I wanted to spend. But ocviously a nice one.
>>
>> If you have a little more room to swing, and some more cash, then
>> you'll probably have some more drool.
>>
>> http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/Commemorative+Tools/CT-16+Palm+Brace
>
> Looking at their prices, there's no drool at all. Some of their stuff is
> at a level where you can almost buy the machine shop to make it for the
> price of the tool. They're clearly aiming at a sucker market and not at
> people who are buying tools to do work.


Yep. They used to be not quite so bad, but over the last 15 or so years it's
become outrageous. Definitely the display cabinet market. That said, I do
own three of their tools. A combination square bought at a charity auction ,
a blem 7" bevel picked up in their shop, and a new in open box BV-1 that I
got for $40 including shipping on eBay.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/Vises/BV-1+Bench+Vise

Great for some of the small stuff I play with!

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

19/04/2010 11:41 PM

On 4/19/2010 10:16 PM, LDosser wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 4/19/2010 8:11 PM, LDosser wrote:
>>> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Apr 19, 9:45 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Robatoy" wrote
>>>>
>>>> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32294&cat=1,180,42337&ap=1
>>>>
>>>> ============
>>>>
>>>> <drool>
>>>>
>>>> A little more than I wanted to spend. But ocviously a nice one.
>>>
>>> If you have a little more room to swing, and some more cash, then
>>> you'll probably have some more drool.
>>>
>>> http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/Commemorative+Tools/CT-16+Palm+Brace
>>>
>>
>> Looking at their prices, there's no drool at all. Some of their stuff
>> is at a level where you can almost buy the machine shop to make it for
>> the price of the tool. They're clearly aiming at a sucker market and
>> not at people who are buying tools to do work.
>
>
> Yep. They used to be not quite so bad, but over the last 15 or so years
> it's become outrageous. Definitely the display cabinet market. That
> said, I do own three of their tools. A combination square bought at a
> charity auction , a blem 7" bevel picked up in their shop, and a new in
> open box BV-1 that I got for $40 including shipping on eBay.
>
> http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/Vises/BV-1+Bench+Vise
>
> Great for some of the small stuff I play with!

40 bucks is about the right price for that. I can't believe they're
asking almost 200 bucks for a glorified Panavise.

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

20/04/2010 7:05 PM

"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/19/2010 10:16 PM, LDosser wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On 4/19/2010 8:11 PM, LDosser wrote:
>>>> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Apr 19, 9:45 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> "Robatoy" wrote
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32294&cat=1,180,42337&ap=1
>>>>>
>>>>> ============
>>>>>
>>>>> <drool>
>>>>>
>>>>> A little more than I wanted to spend. But ocviously a nice one.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a little more room to swing, and some more cash, then
>>>> you'll probably have some more drool.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/Commemorative+Tools/CT-16+Palm+Brace
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at their prices, there's no drool at all. Some of their stuff
>>> is at a level where you can almost buy the machine shop to make it for
>>> the price of the tool. They're clearly aiming at a sucker market and
>>> not at people who are buying tools to do work.
>>
>>
>> Yep. They used to be not quite so bad, but over the last 15 or so years
>> it's become outrageous. Definitely the display cabinet market. That
>> said, I do own three of their tools. A combination square bought at a
>> charity auction , a blem 7" bevel picked up in their shop, and a new in
>> open box BV-1 that I got for $40 including shipping on eBay.
>>
>> http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/Vises/BV-1+Bench+Vise
>>
>> Great for some of the small stuff I play with!
>
> 40 bucks is about the right price for that. I can't believe they're
> asking almost 200 bucks for a glorified Panavise.
>

It is very well made and designed.

ss

spaco

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 19/04/2010 12:05 AM

21/04/2010 10:36 AM

I like an eggbeater drill for drilling out broken screws because I have
great control. With even a variable speed electric drill, it's always
tempting to pull the trigger all the way and then things can get out of
hand quickly.

If you are interested in getting one, you can find them on Ebay for
(usually) reasonable prices; $10 and up.

Not all eggbeater drills were created equal, so do a little googling to
learn more.

You might start with this page:
http://homepage.mac.com/galoot_9/eggbeater.html

I re-learned to use one when I took a class to make a medieval metal
chest. (Still no quite finished)
(See:
http://www.spaco.org/chest.htm
if interested.)

After chiseling and jeweler's sawing for hours and hours, I didn't want
to take any chances with the small holes being misaligned and the hand
powered drilling machine was just the ticket. Besides, it was in
character for the other fabrication methods I learned.

Pete Stanaitis
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