Newbie question:
How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
Rockler has a nice looking one
(http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li
ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
and so does Jet (http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm).
I have one, in brand-new condition and I'll sell it to you for a reasonable
discount, say $125+shipping. Seriously. It's not bad, but it isn't what I
expected.
Mike
"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here is one on my "to buy" list:
>
> http://www.osbornemfg.com/close-up.html
>
> Dave.
>
> Sammy wrote:
> > Newbie question:
> >
> > How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> > comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
> >
> > Rockler has a nice looking one
> >
(http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li
> > ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
> >
> > and so does Jet (http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm).
> >
> >
>
Second that. Don't want to tell you how many times over the 25 years I've
owned the saw I've rechecked the square or angle, but I think I'm still
counting the number of times I've found it in error on easily visible body
parts.
Drops are another matter.
"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If memory serves me correct, one of the highest rated ones was a
> Delta, which is only slightly beefed up from the cheap one they
> include with their TS. I would definitely pick up that article before
> you spend $100+. It had more info on mitre gauges than I ever
> considered.
>
> Chuck
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 04:12:15 GMT, Dave <[email protected]>
wrote:
>You SUCK! ;-)
*In a deep voice* Thank you. Thank you very much.
Sammy wrote:
> Newbie question:
>
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
>
> Rockler has a nice looking one
> (http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li
> ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
It appears we're not allowed to look in your shopping cart.
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Buffalo, NY - USA
Here is one on my "to buy" list:
http://www.osbornemfg.com/close-up.html
Dave.
Sammy wrote:
> Newbie question:
>
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
>
> Rockler has a nice looking one
> (http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li
> ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
>
> and so does Jet (http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm).
>
>
Sammy wrote:
>
> Newbie question:
>
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
I've been extremely happy with the Incra 1000SE.
http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4385&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1046%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CPower%20Tool%20Accessories&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D5009%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CINCRA%20Miter%20Gauges&Gift=False&mscssid=776FF06F979143689C1F523594995166
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Sammy wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input, all.
>
> I will read the latest FWW for comparisons before making my purchase. Before
> reading your message I was about to buy the Incra 3000SE, because at 200
> bucks it *has* to be good.
>
> Right?
95% of your crosscuts will be dead square or dead 45. Build sleds
permanently set for those two angles.
I appreciate the offer... but that looks like a US dollar
figure. By the time I bring it up to Canada with shipping
etc... I would not be too far behind a new one purchased
locally. If I am wrong, and it is in Canadian funds, I'll
take it if jmac didn't beat me to it! ;-)
Dave.
Mike in Mystic wrote:
> I have one, in brand-new condition and I'll sell it to you for a reasonable
> discount, say $125+shipping. Seriously. It's not bad, but it isn't what I
> expected.
>
> Mike
>
> "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Here is one on my "to buy" list:
>>
>>http://www.osbornemfg.com/close-up.html
>>
>>Dave.
>>
>>Sammy wrote:
>>
>>>Newbie question:
>>>
>>>How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
>>>comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
>>>
>>>Rockler has a nice looking one
>>>
>>
> (http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li
>
>>>ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
>>>
>>>and so does Jet (http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm).
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
You SUCK! ;-)
Dave.
jmac wrote:
> Sorry, Dave, but I beat you to it. Actually, I'm not that sorry.
> Yesterday was my lucky day. Got the miter gauge, then at the SDFWA
> meeting last night I parlayed $10 in drawing tickets into a PC 693LPRK
> router I'd been lusting after.
> I guess that would have qualified as a gloat, but I'm not one to do
> that.
>
> Hah!
>
> jmac
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Check Fine Woodworking's recent review of aftermarket gauges. Incra rated either
above average or average, but was the only gauge that can do consistent cuts at
odd angles. Author seemed to think the Woodhaven Deluxe was top rated.
Dave wrote:
> Here is one on my "to buy" list:
>
> http://www.osbornemfg.com/close-up.html
>
> Dave.
>
> Sammy wrote:
> > Newbie question:
> >
> > How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> > comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
> >
> > Rockler has a nice looking one
> > (http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li
> > ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
> >
> > and so does Jet (http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm).
> >
> >
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Check Fine Woodworking's recent review of aftermarket gauges. Incra
rated either above average or average, but was the only gauge that can
do consistent cuts at odd angles. Author seemed to think the Woodhaven
Deluxe was top rated.
<p>Dave wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Here is one on my "to buy" list:
<p><a href="http://www.osbornemfg.com/close-up.html">http://www.osbornemfg.com/close-up.html</a>
<p>Dave.
<p>Sammy wrote:
<br>> Newbie question:
<br>>
<br>> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to
what
<br>> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
<br>>
<br>> Rockler has a nice looking one
<br>> (<a href="http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li">http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li</a>
<br>> ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
<br>>
<br>> and so does Jet (<a href="http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm">http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm</a>).
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"Sammy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Newbie question:
>
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
>
> Rockler has a nice looking one
>
(http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li
> ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
>
> and so does Jet (http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm).
>
>
Incra miter gauges are often considered one of the best
www.incra.com
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Sammy,
FWW's current issue actually does a review of miter guages.
Surprisingly the Rockler is rated among the poorest. Also, they
weren't impressed with any of the Incra's excepts the 1000, which is
cheapest. I was actually glad to hear that since I bought that model
last year. I love mine, but admittedly haven't been working on too
many projects with crazy angles, so I can't attest to its accuracy.
90 & 45 degree cuts have been perfect.
If memory serves me correct, one of the highest rated ones was a
Delta, which is only slightly beefed up from the cheap one they
include with their TS. I would definitely pick up that article before
you spend $100+. It had more info on mitre gauges than I ever
considered.
Chuck
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:42:04 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have one, in brand-new condition and I'll sell it to you for a reasonable
>discount, say $125+shipping. Seriously. It's not bad, but it isn't what I
>expected.
>
>Mike
I shot off an email to your address as shown, but it was kicked back
as a failed delivery.
I'm interested in the miter gauge, if you still have it.
Remove the nospam from my email address to reply.
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:00:14 GMT, "Sammy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Newbie question:
>
>How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
>comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
I like my Incra 1000, Woodpeckers offers a $40 model that does 90 and
45 degrees, and I've seen many more at my local tool stores.
ANYTHING is usually better than what came with the saw.
Barry
"Sammy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Newbie question:
>
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
>
The only one I've had experience with is the Accu Miter. It is available
from Lee Valley or Woodcraft and probably others. If you want accurate,
repeatable cuts, they are a dream to use. The stop on mine is micro
adjustable and easy to set. For me, it was well worth the investment.
Ed
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Which one do you use, Steve? Just curious.
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There are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
"Steve Knight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:10:50 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The only one I've had experience with is the Accu Miter. It is available
> >from Lee Valley or Woodcraft and probably others. If you want accurate,
> >repeatable cuts, they are a dream to use. The stop on mine is micro
> >adjustable and easy to set. For me, it was well worth the investment.
>
> I think the accumiter sucks. its way too heavy and bulky and can have a
fair
> amount of slop in it. the only good part was the clamp. there are better
tools
> out there now.
>
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>
> 95% of your crosscuts will be dead square or dead 45. Build sleds
> permanently set for those two angles.
That makes sense, and the 95% is probably light. B U T. the nice thing
about a good miter gauge is the accuracy of the stop. It can be set rather
precisely for not just an accurate cut, but repeatable cuts. If that can be
built into a sled up to 48" cut, then it makes a lot of sense.
Ed
Sammy wrote:
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
Very important! The one that comes with the saw is accurate
enough for framing a barn, but not fine furniture.
My favorite ones are the ones I build myself. I made a 90deg for
frequent use and a 45deg for mitering. Both took <30min to make.
When I need another angle, I'll make another one....or add a
wedge to my panel-cutting sled.
Oh, and mine are quite lightweight :) and cheap, too!
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"Sammy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Newbie question:
>
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
Equally important. However the precision miter gauges make the ones that
come with the saw look like a toy when comparing performance and function.
I personally use the left and right side Dubby miter sleds.
"Steve Knight" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> I just found it did not go back to 90 very accurately. Mine was about 10
years
> old and they may have improved it. but the extension arm does not touch
the wood
> so it adds no support.
Beyond the first 24", it does not contact the wood. I've not found that a
problem because I'm holding it tightly at the other end. It has never
racked on me.
Ed
Good Lord, that is a serious miter gauge!
"Woody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Incra miter gauges are often considered one of the best
> www.incra.com
>
Sammy wrote:
> Newbie question:
>
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
>
=======================================================================
Not very important at all UNTIL you start putting a project together and
discover that you miter cut was "off" by a hair...
I have an Incra 2000 and honestly it is accurate as the devil BUT I do
not like it...went out and bought the 1000 and not only was it cheaper
but it is much easier to use...
HOWEVER for my common miter cuts (45 and 22 1/2 degree miters) I use
home made sleds that are dead on .. they took some time to "zero" in
but once that task was accomplished (years ago) I have been setup to cut
a percent 45 or 22 1/2 miter in the time it takes to throw the sled on
the saw ...
Since 95 percent of my miters are either 45 or 22 1/2 degrees I really
do not use the Incras much at all... the 2000 was a waste of my money,
the 1000 was a much better buy but I still do not use it enough to
justify the price .. but like anything else I have it when I need it...
Just my opinion..
Bob Griffiths
"Sammy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Newbie question:
>
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
>
> Rockler has a nice looking one
> (http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li
> ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
>
> and so does Jet (http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm).
This id the manufacturer of the fasttrack miter gage. Sold by many
tool companies including Amazon. Best in all of the reviews I have
ever seen as of late.
http://www.woodworkingfasttrak.com/
I replaced my Delta with the Accu-Miter from the JDS company. The
Accu-Miter is solid, and I like the optional hold-down clamp and micro
adjustable flip stop.
Andy
<http://www.thejdscompany.com/Accu.htm>
"Sammy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Newbie question:
>
> How important is one of these "precision" mitre gauges compared to what
> comes with the saw, and which would you recommend?
>
> Rockler has a nice looking one
> (http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10883&Li
> ne_ID=3610447&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0),
>
> and so does Jet (http://www.woodworkersshop.com/JET_Mitre_Gauge.htm).
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:10:50 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The only one I've had experience with is the Accu Miter. It is available
>from Lee Valley or Woodcraft and probably others. If you want accurate,
>repeatable cuts, they are a dream to use. The stop on mine is micro
>adjustable and easy to set. For me, it was well worth the investment.
I think the accumiter sucks. its way too heavy and bulky and can have a fair
amount of slop in it. the only good part was the clamp. there are better tools
out there now.
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Well Steve, I have the Accumiter and love it. It IS rather heavy but
there is always some kind of drawback. I actually grab my Delta when
making a rough cut. The Acu-miter has a aluminum head so I don't know
how they can remove a lot of weight there. Almost every review I have
read says the same thing: "It is a little too heavy". But they all
love it. What do you prefer?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:11:11 GMT, Steve Knight
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:10:50 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The only one I've had experience with is the Accu Miter. It is available
>>from Lee Valley or Woodcraft and probably others. If you want accurate,
>>repeatable cuts, they are a dream to use. The stop on mine is micro
>>adjustable and easy to set. For me, it was well worth the investment.
>
>I think the accumiter sucks. its way too heavy and bulky and can have a fair
>amount of slop in it. the only good part was the clamp. there are better tools
>out there now.
>Well Steve, I have the Accumiter and love it. It IS rather heavy but
>there is always some kind of drawback. I actually grab my Delta when
>making a rough cut. The Acu-miter has a aluminum head so I don't know
>how they can remove a lot of weight there. Almost every review I have
>read says the same thing: "It is a little too heavy". But they all
>love it. What do you prefer?
I just found it did not go back to 90 very accurately. Mine was about 10 years
old and they may have improved it. but the extension arm does not touch the wood
so it adds no support.
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On 24 Sep 2003 06:40:40 -0700, [email protected] (WoodChuck34)
wrote:
>Sammy,
>
>FWW's current issue actually does a review of miter guages.
>Surprisingly the Rockler is rated among the poorest. Also, they
>weren't impressed with any of the Incra's excepts the 1000, which is
>cheapest. I was actually glad to hear that since I bought that model
>last year.
Me too. I like my 1000. However in hindsight, I would go with a
flip-up stop.
Incra now makes a $60 version of the 1000.
The Woodhaven 90/45 gauge is excellent for about $60. My buddy has
one and I'm impressed with it's accuracy and simplicity.
Barry
Sorry, Dave, but I beat you to it. Actually, I'm not that sorry.
Yesterday was my lucky day. Got the miter gauge, then at the SDFWA
meeting last night I parlayed $10 in drawing tickets into a PC 693LPRK
router I'd been lusting after.
I guess that would have qualified as a gloat, but I'm not one to do
that.
Hah!
jmac
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:55:26 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>That makes sense, and the 95% is probably light. B U T. the nice thing
>about a good miter gauge is the accuracy of the stop.
I also use my good miter gauge on my router table.
Barry
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:13:33 GMT, "Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Which one do you use, Steve? Just curious.
well I struggled with the accumiter for awhile. but then I got the makita SCMS
and do all the miter cuts on it. I did a trade for a incra one as I was getting
a bit of flex in my cuts on the SCMS. but once I got a forrest blade the cuts
were perfect and now it just hangs there (G) but I am not the one to ask as I
only used it 10 times.
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>Beyond the first 24", it does not contact the wood. I've not found that a
>problem because I'm holding it tightly at the other end. It has never
>racked on me.
>Ed
>
but all it is useful for is a measurement gage. it adds a lot of weight for that
job.
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