Does anyone have a reasonably easy solution for this?
I often wish I had a micro height adjustment feature on my router
table. But I don't. Neither does the router that's in there. So
every time I want to adjust the cutter height I have to struggle
against the upside down plunger springs and if I get within 1/4" of
where I need to be I feel I've done well, especially if I haven't
injured myself in the process. What I'm thinking about is something
like a very small scissor jack or screw jack that I can place below the
upside down-hanging router and (with the table bolted to the bench) be
able to push and also release the jack to fine degrees to give me some
measure of control. I've looked to see but I can't find any way of
removing the plunge springs which are inside steel tubes.
Anyone have any ideas? Are there router tables sold which incorporate
a micro adjustment feature or is that always a function of the router
itself?
Thanx
FoggyTown
> If you are suggesting the purchase of a new router, why not one that is
> built to fit into a router table and has micro adjust to start with. PC,
> Milwaukee, and Triton to name a few offer this feature.
Alternatively, if a new router is not an option, will your current
router/table setup allow you to replace the plunge base with a standard
fixed (non-plunge) base?
The fixed base for my Dewalt usually lives in my table, and the big
depth adjustment ring works quite well as a (relatively) fine adjuster.
Probably not as good as a true micro adjust, but lots easier than
trying to plunge it up from under the table.
Or, (now I'm really thinking crazily) if you can't get a fixed base,
what about somehow hooking a strap/band clamp to both sides of your
table, and running it under the router motor, such that when you
tighten the band clamp, it raises the router just a little bit? You'd
need to secure the strap to the router so it couldn't slip off, but it
might be an idea to start with...
Good luck,
Andy
My TR12 (hitachi non-variable speed) lives in the router table with a
router razier. The RR was about $90.00 shipped in, works well if you
rotate your router so the hole is at the front instead of the back of
the plate.
There have been some people make their own with a fine pitch threaded
rod and a pawnshop ratchet and socket.
Alan
James E. Cannon wrote:
> > If you are suggesting the purchase of a new router, why not one that is
> > built to fit into a router table and has micro adjust to start with. PC,
> > Milwaukee, and Triton to name a few offer this feature.
>
>
> I just mentioned one that happened to be particularly inexpensive right now.
> People don't always appreciate hearing that the easy fix for their problems
> involves dropping $500.
You missed Leon's point. The Milwaukee and Triton are self contained
table ready. No added lift is required. I bought the Triton last year
on sale for $250 and that was all I spent to get micro adjust in the
table.
Bob
"foggytown"
> Does anyone have a reasonably easy solution for this?
> Anyone have any ideas? Are there router tables sold which incorporate
> a micro adjustment feature or is that always a function of the router
> itself?
>
As Ed said "Easy is not cheap". True. However, is your budget is strained
to the breaking point, try this, get a dial indicator and a short stool.
Before I purchased the Jessem Master Lift, I would set the bit using an old
dial indicator. Worked fine.
Dave
foggytown wrote:
> Does anyone have a reasonably easy solution for this?
> I often wish I had a micro height adjustment feature on my router
> table. But I don't. Neither does the router that's in there. So
> every time I want to adjust the cutter height I have to struggle
> against the upside down plunger springs and if I get within 1/4" of
> where I need to be I feel I've done well, especially if I haven't
> injured myself in the process. What I'm thinking about is something
> like a very small scissor jack or screw jack that I can place below the
> upside down-hanging router and (with the table bolted to the bench) be
> able to push and also release the jack to fine degrees to give me some
> measure of control. I've looked to see but I can't find any way of
> removing the plunge springs which are inside steel tubes.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? Are there router tables sold which incorporate
> a micro adjustment feature or is that always a function of the router
> itself?
>
> Thanx
> FoggyTown
First off, if they put springs in your router, you can take them out.
What kind of router is it? You may get more specific answers from the
group if you tell such details.
Small scissor jacks are great for making router lifts. Go for it--it's
a good cheap solution. No need to run off and buy the latest trendy
tool. (OTOH, if you've got plenty of $$, that Milwaukee begins to look
attractive....)
H
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&p=40361&cat=3,43715,43727
I have to make a router jack. For this you can make a 4 sided base out of 4
pieces of wood that look like
_
|_( , seen sideways. Draw all sides together and stand up. Put a top on
it, and drill and inset a T-nut.
Then make a spinner out of wood, a circle with four nobbies, that you can
spin by hand, and put a carriage bolt through it, secured over the top with
a nut, on top.
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"foggytown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> every time I want to adjust the cutter height I have to struggle
> against the upside down plunger springs and if I get within 1/4" of
> where I need to be I feel I've done well, especially if I haven't
> injured myself in the process. What I'm thinking about is something
> like a very small scissor jack or screw jack that I can place below the
> upside down-hanging router and (with the table bolted to the bench) be
> able to push and also release the jack to fine degrees to give me some
> measure of control. I've looked to see but I can't find any way of
> removing the plunge springs which are inside steel tubes.
I was under the impression that the springs were usually removed for router
table use. What kind of router do you have? LV has a step detent device for
routers in a table.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=43039&cat=1,43000
"James E. Cannon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Ytvog.58300$9c6.47104@dukeread11...
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "James E. Cannon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:TYuog.58299$9c6.25519@dukeread11...
>>>2 step solution...
>>>
>>> First, get a router that will allow you to remove or disengage the
>>> springs. Amazon has the Hitachi M12V (3 1/4 horse, variable speed) for
>>> all of $130 right now with free shipping.
>>
>>
>> If you are suggesting the purchase of a new router, why not one that is
>> built to fit into a router table and has micro adjust to start with. PC,
>> Milwaukee, and Triton to name a few offer this feature.
>
>
> I just mentioned one that happened to be particularly inexpensive right
> now. People don't always appreciate hearing that the easy fix for their
> problems involves dropping $500.
$500 is about double what you whould have to pay for a good router.
2 step solution...
First, get a router that will allow you to remove or disengage the springs.
Amazon has the Hitachi M12V (3 1/4 horse, variable speed) for all of $130
right now with free shipping.
Then, route a plate/lift into your table to mount the router. Pick any one
of a hundred plates on the market that offer above-the-table fine/micro
height adjustment. Personally, I'm partial to the Woodpeckers Plungelift.
http://www.woodpeck.com/plungelift.html Others seem to like the
RouterRaizer.
Myself, once fall comes I'll be buying the Bosch 1619evs and a Plungelift to
match. I've already got a Woodpeckers aluminum plate in my table but I want
a bigger router.
http://www.ruckover.com/router/page2/images/IMG_0547.jpg
"foggytown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone have a reasonably easy solution for this?
> I often wish I had a micro height adjustment feature on my router
> table. But I don't. Neither does the router that's in there. So
> every time I want to adjust the cutter height I have to struggle
> against the upside down plunger springs and if I get within 1/4" of
> where I need to be I feel I've done well, especially if I haven't
> injured myself in the process. What I'm thinking about is something
> like a very small scissor jack or screw jack that I can place below the
> upside down-hanging router and (with the table bolted to the bench) be
> able to push and also release the jack to fine degrees to give me some
> measure of control. I've looked to see but I can't find any way of
> removing the plunge springs which are inside steel tubes.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? Are there router tables sold which incorporate
> a micro adjustment feature or is that always a function of the router
> itself?
>
> Thanx
> FoggyTown
>
"foggytown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Does anyone have a reasonably easy solution for this?
>
> Anyone have any ideas? Are there router tables sold which incorporate
> a micro adjustment feature or is that always a function of the router
> itself?
Easy is not cheap. You can always buy the Benchdog setup and a good router
to go with it. www.benchdog.com Even the slightest of adjustments are
easy, repeatable, and hold constant.
There are other similar systems of varying price available. I would think a
fixed base router would be easier to adjust also. Or find a way to get the
springs out. If one man put them in there, another can figure a way to get
them out. Perhaps if you tell us the brand, someone that has already done
it can help you.
"James E. Cannon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:TYuog.58299$9c6.25519@dukeread11...
>2 step solution...
>
> First, get a router that will allow you to remove or disengage the
> springs. Amazon has the Hitachi M12V (3 1/4 horse, variable speed) for all
> of $130 right now with free shipping.
If you are suggesting the purchase of a new router, why not one that is
built to fit into a router table and has micro adjust to start with. PC,
Milwaukee, and Triton to name a few offer this feature.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "James E. Cannon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:TYuog.58299$9c6.25519@dukeread11...
>>2 step solution...
>>
>> First, get a router that will allow you to remove or disengage the
>> springs. Amazon has the Hitachi M12V (3 1/4 horse, variable speed) for
>> all of $130 right now with free shipping.
>
>
> If you are suggesting the purchase of a new router, why not one that is
> built to fit into a router table and has micro adjust to start with. PC,
> Milwaukee, and Triton to name a few offer this feature.
I just mentioned one that happened to be particularly inexpensive right now.
People don't always appreciate hearing that the easy fix for their problems
involves dropping $500. Also, the Hitachi is one of the more popular
routers for table use. Marc Sommerfeld and John Lucas, two people I've
learned a lot from, both swear by it.
If he does want to buy a more expensive router that is a little better
suited right from the get go, just read a few more paragraphs. How much
more strongly can I recommend the Bosch 1619EVS than by saying that I'm
buying it myself?
I put a new Freud router in my table. It comes with an above the table
adjuster and lock. Works great! It even raises enough to change the bit
above the table. About $168. Love it.
Jim
"foggytown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone have a reasonably easy solution for this?
> I often wish I had a micro height adjustment feature on my router
> table. But I don't. Neither does the router that's in there. So
> every time I want to adjust the cutter height I have to struggle
> against the upside down plunger springs and if I get within 1/4" of
> where I need to be I feel I've done well, especially if I haven't
> injured myself in the process. What I'm thinking about is something
> like a very small scissor jack or screw jack that I can place below the
> upside down-hanging router and (with the table bolted to the bench) be
> able to push and also release the jack to fine degrees to give me some
> measure of control. I've looked to see but I can't find any way of
> removing the plunge springs which are inside steel tubes.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? Are there router tables sold which incorporate
> a micro adjustment feature or is that always a function of the router
> itself?
>
> Thanx
> FoggyTown
>
If you have a scissors jack it works great, you just have to lock the
plate in place, and have suface to rest the jack on. My fence
straddles the plate and locks it down, and the adjustment is very
fine. I use it with a the large Dewalt plunger.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:45:00 -0400, "bent" <[email protected]> wrote:
>http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&p=40361&cat=3,43715,43727
>
>I have to make a router jack. For this you can make a 4 sided base out of 4
>pieces of wood that look like
>_
>|_( , seen sideways. Draw all sides together and stand up. Put a top on
>it, and drill and inset a T-nut.
>
>Then make a spinner out of wood, a circle with four nobbies, that you can
>spin by hand, and put a carriage bolt through it, secured over the top with
>a nut, on top.
>
>
>
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