I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood. I've
removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out. I
can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in it.
TIA
"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood.
>I've
> removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out.
> I
> can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
> bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
> cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>
> WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
> cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in
> it.
Besides the other advice, On many occasions it is easier to keep the tops of
the cabinets aligned by attaching a piece of wood to the top of a cabinet
that will stick out where the next cabinet will go. You simply jam the next
cabinet up against that piece of wood and the tops are even. Your cabinet
could also be attached to that piece of wood if one was used. Look on the
top to see if any screws were used.
It's probably got a screw you are not finding, and it could be from the side
through the adjoining cabinet. It's common to connect through the face
frame or the carcase with screws. If it swings out at the bottom, then
taking note of the pivot point can help locate a screw (or brad/nail).
--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com
"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood.
I've
> removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out.
I
> can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
> bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
> cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>
> WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
> cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in
it.
>
> TIA
>
>
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:45:41 GMT, "Gary" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood.
>I've
>> removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out.
>I
>> can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
>> bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
>> cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>>
>> WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
>> cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in
>it.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>
>One word.... sawzall!!
>
>Gary
>
Wrong word. RotoZip
A recip saw would be difficult to work near the ceiling...without
damaging the wall.
Have a nice one...
Trent
Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876!
"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood.
>I've
> removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out.
> I
> can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
> bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
> cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>
> WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
> cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in
> it.
>
> TIA
>
>
If that cabinet is still hanging. As posted, look for a screw between
adjoining face frame members. As posted by Brad, look under hinges. If
it's still there, a common occurance when fastening hardwood face frames
with drywall^H^H^H^H^H^H^H *ahem* Multipurpose screws is a sheared screw.
The shanks can and do hold things together as you describe. Sacrificing a
good quality finetooth sawzall blade is the only sure salvage plan I have.
"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Check the fuses for the stove first, the may be stealing the 120 from
there.
>
I was considering that when I thought I would have to do the wiring.
Although I understand it's not kosher.
It wasn't too bad finding the fuse, just turned them off in groups until I
found it. It actually had it's own breaker, one less mystery in the panel.
"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood.
I've
> removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out.
I
> can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
> bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
> cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>
> WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
> cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in
it.
>
> TIA
>
>
One word.... sawzall!!
Gary
Mike Patterson wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:51:30 -0400, "Bill Stock" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood. I've
>>removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out. I
>>can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
>>bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
>>cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>>
>>WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
>>cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in it.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>
>
>
> Do you have any room to lift it a couple inches at the back? It may be
> hung on a french cleat:
>
> http://www.newwoodworker.com/frenchcleat.html
>
> HTH
>
> Mike Patterson
> Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
> "I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin
It may be screwed to an adjoining cabinet (Don't forget to look behind
hinges)
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> It's probably got a screw you are not finding, and it could be from
> the side through the adjoining cabinet. It's common to connect
> through the face frame or the carcase with screws. If it swings out
> at the bottom, then taking note of the pivot point can help locate a
> screw (or brad/nail).
>
> --
> ********
> Bill Pounds
> http://www.billpounds.com
>
>
> "Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range
>> hood.
> I've
>> removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come
>> out.
> I
>> can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge.
>> The bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the
>> adjoining cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small
>> cabinet?
>>
>> WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
>> cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting
>> in
> it.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>
>
What he said.
Or if you're lucky, you can do what I did.
I removed all of the apparent screws from my upper cabinet over the
counter. It didn't move. I looked for more screws, but couldn't find
any. I tugged at it, but it didn't move. I looked all around the edges
to see if it was painted in. Nope, no paint buildup around the edges.
So I stepped back to think.
BANG!
The darn thing fell off the wall, just like that! Fortunately, I wasn't
under it, or I could have wound up with a pretty good headache.
--
John Snow
"If I knew what I was doing, I wouldn't be here"
"Charles Spitzer" wrote in message
> is it hung on a french cleat? you might have to lift up and away from the
> wall to get it off.
If I ever find a wall plumb, flush and square enough to hang a _row_ of
kitchen cabinets on french cleats, you'll see it here as a "gloat" :)
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/04/04
"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood.
>I've
> removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out.
> I
> can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
> bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
> cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>
> WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
> cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in
> it.
>
> TIA
is it hung on a french cleat? you might have to lift up and away from the
wall to get it off.
Check the fuses for the stove first, the may be stealing the 120 from there.
George
"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood.
> I've
> > removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come
out.
> I
> > can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
> > bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the
adjoining
> > cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
> >
> > WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
> > cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in
> it.
> >
> > TIA
> >
>
> After cursing and swearing at this thing for an hour and then posting
here.
> My brain kicked in after I relaxed a bit. I took a piece of paper and slid
> it between the cabinets to find the hang up. Turned out someone replaced a
> couple of stripped hinge screws with longer ones that bored into the
> neighbouring cabinets.
>
> I also discovered the missing wiring for the range hood buried in the wall
> behind the cabinet. It had no electrical box and no Marr connectors on the
> end of the wire. How much you wanna bet this thing is live. This saves me
> doing the wiring, but was just a tad unsafe. I have no idea which fuse
this
> might be, guess it's time to make all the clocks flash. :)
>
>
>
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:43:48 -0400, Trent© <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:45:41 GMT, "Gary" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood.
>>I've
>>> removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out.
>>I
>>> can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
>>> bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
>>> cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>>>
>>> WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
>>> cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in
>>it.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>>
>>
>>One word.... sawzall!!
>>
>>Gary
>>
>
>Wrong word. RotoZip
>
>A recip saw would be difficult to work near the ceiling...without
>damaging the wall.
a rotozip would be *impossible* to use for a flush cut against the
ceiling. with a sawzall you can put in a long blade and flex it into
the gap.
rotozip is a perfect example of a tool that does nothing well but
sells for a great deal more than it's practical value entirely because
of agressive advertising to a gullible amateur tool buying public.
"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood.
I've
> removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out.
I
> can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
> bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
> cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>
> WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
> cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in
it.
>
> TIA
>
After cursing and swearing at this thing for an hour and then posting here.
My brain kicked in after I relaxed a bit. I took a piece of paper and slid
it between the cabinets to find the hang up. Turned out someone replaced a
couple of stripped hinge screws with longer ones that bored into the
neighbouring cabinets.
I also discovered the missing wiring for the range hood buried in the wall
behind the cabinet. It had no electrical box and no Marr connectors on the
end of the wire. How much you wanna bet this thing is live. This saves me
doing the wiring, but was just a tad unsafe. I have no idea which fuse this
might be, guess it's time to make all the clocks flash. :)
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Charles Spitzer" wrote in message
>
>> is it hung on a french cleat? you might have to lift up and away from the
>> wall to get it off.
>
> If I ever find a wall plumb, flush and square enough to hang a _row_ of
> kitchen cabinets on french cleats, you'll see it here as a "gloat" :)
No kidding.
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:51:30 -0400, "Bill Stock" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have to remove a kitchen cabinet over the stove to redo a range hood. I've
>removed all of the screws (that I know of), but the bitch won't come out. I
>can practically hang of the top of the cabinet, but it won't budge. The
>bottom will swing out from the wall, but not the top. Could the adjoining
>cabinet be putting that much pressure on this small cabinet?
>
>WTF is the secret here? I'd prefer not to remove the adjoining (BIG)
>cabinet, as it's probably a two man job and it has recessed lighting in it.
>
>TIA
>
Do you have any room to lift it a couple inches at the back? It may be
hung on a french cleat:
http://www.newwoodworker.com/frenchcleat.html
HTH
Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin