Just went to Woodcraft today.. They opened a new franchise in Allentown
PA... Still the same old expensive place...
But hey looked everything over.... good deal on purple heart 4.83 bd ft
Terrible deal on cherry $8.xx / bd ft 4/4... what are they insane... I
pay anywhere from 3.40 to 5 for 4/4... I could understand the thicker
stock, but .... these guys and gals...
Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling marks
on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on
the bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time
when I got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal
amount. But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended
list. So the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to
come. Lower quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and
Decker (never owned one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.
>Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
>took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling marks
>on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on
>the bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time
>when I got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal
>amount. But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended
>list. So the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to
>come. Lower quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and
>Decker (never owned one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.
Well I picked up the Marples from Costco the other day. I know nothing about
older Marples or whether the quality has declined. However, I did do some
sharpening this evening. I laid out the marble sill and glued down a strip of
220 and a strip of 320 for the initial lapping of the backs. The 1" took a
minute or so on the 220 to get a little dip out at the tip. All 5 of the others
were flat out of the pack and only took a few strokes on the 220 to remove all
machining marks on the last inch or two of the backs. A few more on the 320 and
they were ready for the waterstones. A few strokes on the backs on the 1500
stone and I put the first on in the sharpening jig. A little work on the 1500
then on to the 6000 and the hair is gone from the back of my left hand. I have
no idea if the edges will last or if the steel is good, but I do know that the
initial machining of these six chisels was better than my expectations.
Dave Hall
Dave Jackson wrote:
> enough to pare the thinnest shaving. ...AAAAAAHHHHH. Baby, that was
> wonderful. Anyone got a cigarette? --dave
Cigarette hell, at that age it was like "Baby, that was wonderful. Wanna do
it again?"
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tiredofspam wrote:
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> Lower quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and
> Decker (never owned one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.
It really isn't Irwin anymore than it's Marples. It's
Rubbermaid. They bought American Tool, Record both of the others
and a pile of other companies and then destroyed them. Hell, Buck
used to be a good company name.
Dave in Fairfax
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Out of curiosity, what makes you think this? So far, I thought they've
taken and held an edge very well. --dave
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If Crowns are better than the Blue Chips, I wouldn't have anything to do
> with them. I have never seen a crown anything that was worth having. Nice
> looking, lousy steel.
>
> "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I noticed the same thing several weeks ago. The Irwin/Marples are
> definately
>> cheaper looking and feeling.
>> I have a set of "fat max" stanley chisels i have for use at work, and
> they
>> are great for that purpose, but i wanted a "good" set to keep in the
>> shop
>> for finer woodworking tasks. The new Marples, unfortunately, didn't make
>> the cut .
>> I decided on the somewhat more pricey Crown chisels.
>> The sensation i got after lapping and honing them was like my first time
>> with a woman. Albeit, the lapping and honing took a little longer than
>> the
>> latter, both were equally satisfying. The feel of the rosewood handles
> and
>> silky smooth polished steel, sharp enough to dismember, and still
>> delicate
>> enough to pare the thinnest shaving. ...AAAAAAHHHHH. Baby, that was
>> wonderful. Anyone got a cigarette? --dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Just went to Woodcraft today.. They opened a new franchise in Allentown
>> > PA... Still the same old expensive place...
>> > But hey looked everything over.... good deal on purple heart 4.83 bd ft
>> > Terrible deal on cherry $8.xx / bd ft 4/4... what are they insane... I
> pay
>> > anywhere from 3.40 to 5 for 4/4... I could understand the thicker
>> > stock,
>> > but .... these guys and gals...
>> >
>> > Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
>> > took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling
>> > marks
>> > on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on
> the
>> > bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time when
> I
>> > got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal
>> > amount.
>> > But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended list.
>> > So
>> > the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to come. Lower
>> > quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and Decker (never
> owned
>> > one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.
>>
>>
>
>
If Crowns are better than the Blue Chips, I wouldn't have anything to do
with them. I have never seen a crown anything that was worth having. Nice
looking, lousy steel.
"Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I noticed the same thing several weeks ago. The Irwin/Marples are
definately
> cheaper looking and feeling.
> I have a set of "fat max" stanley chisels i have for use at work, and
they
> are great for that purpose, but i wanted a "good" set to keep in the shop
> for finer woodworking tasks. The new Marples, unfortunately, didn't make
> the cut .
> I decided on the somewhat more pricey Crown chisels.
> The sensation i got after lapping and honing them was like my first time
> with a woman. Albeit, the lapping and honing took a little longer than the
> latter, both were equally satisfying. The feel of the rosewood handles
and
> silky smooth polished steel, sharp enough to dismember, and still delicate
> enough to pare the thinnest shaving. ...AAAAAAHHHHH. Baby, that was
> wonderful. Anyone got a cigarette? --dave
>
>
>
>
>
> "tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Just went to Woodcraft today.. They opened a new franchise in Allentown
> > PA... Still the same old expensive place...
> > But hey looked everything over.... good deal on purple heart 4.83 bd ft
> > Terrible deal on cherry $8.xx / bd ft 4/4... what are they insane... I
pay
> > anywhere from 3.40 to 5 for 4/4... I could understand the thicker stock,
> > but .... these guys and gals...
> >
> > Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
> > took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling marks
> > on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on
the
> > bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time when
I
> > got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal amount.
> > But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended list. So
> > the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to come. Lower
> > quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and Decker (never
owned
> > one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.
>
>
I noticed the same thing several weeks ago. The Irwin/Marples are definately
cheaper looking and feeling.
I have a set of "fat max" stanley chisels i have for use at work, and they
are great for that purpose, but i wanted a "good" set to keep in the shop
for finer woodworking tasks. The new Marples, unfortunately, didn't make
the cut .
I decided on the somewhat more pricey Crown chisels.
The sensation i got after lapping and honing them was like my first time
with a woman. Albeit, the lapping and honing took a little longer than the
latter, both were equally satisfying. The feel of the rosewood handles and
silky smooth polished steel, sharp enough to dismember, and still delicate
enough to pare the thinnest shaving. ...AAAAAAHHHHH. Baby, that was
wonderful. Anyone got a cigarette? --dave
"tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just went to Woodcraft today.. They opened a new franchise in Allentown
> PA... Still the same old expensive place...
> But hey looked everything over.... good deal on purple heart 4.83 bd ft
> Terrible deal on cherry $8.xx / bd ft 4/4... what are they insane... I pay
> anywhere from 3.40 to 5 for 4/4... I could understand the thicker stock,
> but .... these guys and gals...
>
> Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
> took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling marks
> on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on the
> bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time when I
> got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal amount.
> But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended list. So
> the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to come. Lower
> quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and Decker (never owned
> one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.