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[email protected] (Ian Dodd)

09/12/2003 10:16 PM

Festool jigsaw close out vs. Bosch?

Last night I opened a thread looking for recommendations on a new
jigsaw. The universal opinion seems to be that Bosch is the one to
beat.

But I found a close out on the Festool PS 2 e, which I'm guessing is
last year's model discontinued since the Trion ($250) came out. The
price is $159, about the same as the Bosch or high end DeWalt.

Festool enjoys a great reputation and always seems to be highly
regarded in reviews. So, even though it's not the latest and
greatest, I'm thinking the PS 2 e might be a good deal.

Any thoughts? TIA.


This topic has 11 replies

GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

10/12/2003 8:05 AM

Joe as someone who has owned many Bosch Jig saws over a time when most of
you guys with home workshops never even heard of them, You either definately
have something wrong with your machine or you are doing something wrong with
it.

It does sort of sound like you have not been able to lock the blade down
properly
Bosch jig saws just do not wander unless the blade is loose simple as that.

Get it checked out once you have it working properly you will enjoy it.

Good Luck,
George
"Joseph Crowe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ian Dodd wrote:
> > Last night I opened a thread looking for recommendations on a new
> > jigsaw. The universal opinion seems to be that Bosch is the one to
> > beat.
>
> Let me give you one opinion based on my experiences with the Bosch
> 1584ASK that I own. It was built in Mexico, IIRC and frankly, I am
> pretty underwhelmed. The mechanism for changing blades is almost non
> functional and blade wander is all over the place. I don't know if I
> have a defective saw, but its performance has been a huge disappointment
> to me. That said, my Bosch routers work fine. The Bosch orbital sander
> I have is also borderline.......I ordered it and the jigsaw at the same
> time.
>
> >
> > But I found a close out on the Festool PS 2 e, which I'm guessing is
> > last year's model discontinued since the Trion ($250) came out. The
> > price is $159, about the same as the Bosch or high end DeWalt.
>
> I saw that somewhere too. Frankly, it's worth a try. I now wish
> I had waited on that purchase.
> >
> > Festool enjoys a great reputation and always seems to be highly
> > regarded in reviews. So, even though it's not the latest and
> > greatest, I'm thinking the PS 2 e might be a good deal.
> >
> > Any thoughts? TIA.
>

KY

Ken Yee

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

10/12/2003 11:22 PM

[email protected] (Ian Dodd) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> do you know about Metabo? TIA.

I have this jigsaw and like it quite a bit; I reviewed
it on Amazon.

If I had known Festools cleared out their stuff for
$150, I probably would have considered it instead :-)


ken

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

10/12/2003 1:16 PM

I rate AEG right up there with Matebo.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:32:30 -0500, "Jim Ray" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I can't offer an opinion on this without stating that we sell the Festool
>PS2e, so take this for what its worth.
>
>I have used the Bosch for many years, having worn out one and replaced it
>with the updated "Clic" version several years ago. I loved the Bosch - it
>was avast improvement over my original Craftsman saw. It cut fast in the
>orbital mode, the blade changes were easy, and the variable speed was nice.
>
>When we were considering the addition of Festool to our catalog, the Festool
>rep came in to demonstrate the tools. He pulled out the PS2e and I said,
>don't bother (proudly) I use a Bosch. He said, that's why I want to show you
>the PS2e. We started out making a cut of the end of a 2-1/2" thick piece of
>hard maple. Nothing fancy, just a nice smooth "S" shape across the end
>grain. The cut was smooth and straight up and down. So then he said, lets do
>another one. Sure. So he made a parallel cut about 1/8" from the first one.
>And the resulting piece was a 2-1/2" tall, 1/8" thick, "S" shaped piece of
>end grain hard maple with parallel sides! It just got better after that. The
>vacuum system sucked the chips right up, so you could see the cut line, it
>connected easily to the straightedge system for super accurate cuts, and the
>tilt mechanism was easy to use - and accurate. The downside? Festool uses
>thicker blades for added stiffness, although it will work with other
>manufacturer's blades, you won't get the same results.
>
>Hope this helps. Feel free to call my tech director, Darin Lawrence, if you
>would like further info (1-800-443-7937).
>
>Jim Ray, President
>McFeely's Square Drive Screws
>www.mcfeelys.com

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[email protected] (Ian Dodd)

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

10/12/2003 9:40 AM

Following up on this thought, I found a Metabo jigsaw for sale on
eBay. No bids yet and asking to start at $85 plus $12 shipping. What
do you know about Metabo? TIA.

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 10/12/2003 9:40 AM

10/12/2003 5:48 PM

iandodd asks:

>
>Following up on this thought, I found a Metabo jigsaw for sale on
>eBay. No bids yet and asking to start at $85 plus $12 shipping. What
>do you know about Metabo?
>

Excellent tools. Tend to lack extraneous fancy features, but exceptionally well
made.

Charlie Self

"In the final choice a soldier's pack is not so heavy as a prisoner's chains."
Dwight D. Eisenhower





















GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

10/12/2003 7:10 AM

I have never used Festools units but I understand that they are of
Impeccable quality and would like to try some of there things.
Yes they are very high price and that is what mainly keeps me away from
them,
But when they have a special they have a special and they really cut the
price way down.
If you get it let us know what you think I do not think that you would go
wrong in getting one

Good Luck,
George
"Ian Dodd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Last night I opened a thread looking for recommendations on a new
> jigsaw. The universal opinion seems to be that Bosch is the one to
> beat.
>
> But I found a close out on the Festool PS 2 e, which I'm guessing is
> last year's model discontinued since the Trion ($250) came out. The
> price is $159, about the same as the Bosch or high end DeWalt.
>
> Festool enjoys a great reputation and always seems to be highly
> regarded in reviews. So, even though it's not the latest and
> greatest, I'm thinking the PS 2 e might be a good deal.
>
> Any thoughts? TIA.

JC

Joseph Crowe

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

10/12/2003 8:01 AM

Ian Dodd wrote:
> Last night I opened a thread looking for recommendations on a new
> jigsaw. The universal opinion seems to be that Bosch is the one to
> beat.

Let me give you one opinion based on my experiences with the Bosch
1584ASK that I own. It was built in Mexico, IIRC and frankly, I am
pretty underwhelmed. The mechanism for changing blades is almost non
functional and blade wander is all over the place. I don't know if I
have a defective saw, but its performance has been a huge disappointment
to me. That said, my Bosch routers work fine. The Bosch orbital sander
I have is also borderline.......I ordered it and the jigsaw at the same
time.

>
> But I found a close out on the Festool PS 2 e, which I'm guessing is
> last year's model discontinued since the Trion ($250) came out. The
> price is $159, about the same as the Bosch or high end DeWalt.

I saw that somewhere too. Frankly, it's worth a try. I now wish
I had waited on that purchase.
>
> Festool enjoys a great reputation and always seems to be highly
> regarded in reviews. So, even though it's not the latest and
> greatest, I'm thinking the PS 2 e might be a good deal.
>
> Any thoughts? TIA.

JR

"Jim Ray"

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

10/12/2003 8:32 AM

I can't offer an opinion on this without stating that we sell the Festool
PS2e, so take this for what its worth.

I have used the Bosch for many years, having worn out one and replaced it
with the updated "Clic" version several years ago. I loved the Bosch - it
was avast improvement over my original Craftsman saw. It cut fast in the
orbital mode, the blade changes were easy, and the variable speed was nice.

When we were considering the addition of Festool to our catalog, the Festool
rep came in to demonstrate the tools. He pulled out the PS2e and I said,
don't bother (proudly) I use a Bosch. He said, that's why I want to show you
the PS2e. We started out making a cut of the end of a 2-1/2" thick piece of
hard maple. Nothing fancy, just a nice smooth "S" shape across the end
grain. The cut was smooth and straight up and down. So then he said, lets do
another one. Sure. So he made a parallel cut about 1/8" from the first one.
And the resulting piece was a 2-1/2" tall, 1/8" thick, "S" shaped piece of
end grain hard maple with parallel sides! It just got better after that. The
vacuum system sucked the chips right up, so you could see the cut line, it
connected easily to the straightedge system for super accurate cuts, and the
tilt mechanism was easy to use - and accurate. The downside? Festool uses
thicker blades for added stiffness, although it will work with other
manufacturer's blades, you won't get the same results.

Hope this helps. Feel free to call my tech director, Darin Lawrence, if you
would like further info (1-800-443-7937).

Jim Ray, President
McFeely's Square Drive Screws
www.mcfeelys.com

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"Ian Dodd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Last night I opened a thread looking for recommendations on a new
> jigsaw. The universal opinion seems to be that Bosch is the one to
> beat.
>
> But I found a close out on the Festool PS 2 e, which I'm guessing is
> last year's model discontinued since the Trion ($250) came out. The
> price is $159, about the same as the Bosch or high end DeWalt.
>
> Festool enjoys a great reputation and always seems to be highly
> regarded in reviews. So, even though it's not the latest and
> greatest, I'm thinking the PS 2 e might be a good deal.
>
> Any thoughts? TIA.


jj

j

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

12/12/2003 2:59 AM

Does the Festool PS 2 e have a quick release blade? How do the Festool
baldes compare with others in terms of price, logevity and availability?

Bb

"Brian"

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

10/12/2003 9:58 PM

Thank for the tip! I just ordered one of the closeout Festool jig saws.
Great deal on a great tool.

Brian.


"Ian Dodd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Last night I opened a thread looking for recommendations on a new
> jigsaw. The universal opinion seems to be that Bosch is the one to
> beat.
>
> But I found a close out on the Festool PS 2 e, which I'm guessing is
> last year's model discontinued since the Trion ($250) came out. The
> price is $159, about the same as the Bosch or high end DeWalt.
>
> Festool enjoys a great reputation and always seems to be highly
> regarded in reviews. So, even though it's not the latest and
> greatest, I'm thinking the PS 2 e might be a good deal.
>
> Any thoughts? TIA.

GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to [email protected] (Ian Dodd) on 09/12/2003 10:16 PM

10/12/2003 6:01 PM

I also agree with Both the AEG and The Metabo I believe they both have a
full 1" stroke wheras the beloved Bosch if Memory serves me right is onlt
7/8"
"Lawrence A. Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I rate AEG right up there with Matebo.
>
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:32:30 -0500, "Jim Ray" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I can't offer an opinion on this without stating that we sell the Festool
> >PS2e, so take this for what its worth.
> >
> >I have used the Bosch for many years, having worn out one and replaced it
> >with the updated "Clic" version several years ago. I loved the Bosch - it
> >was avast improvement over my original Craftsman saw. It cut fast in the
> >orbital mode, the blade changes were easy, and the variable speed was
nice.
> >
> >When we were considering the addition of Festool to our catalog, the
Festool
> >rep came in to demonstrate the tools. He pulled out the PS2e and I said,
> >don't bother (proudly) I use a Bosch. He said, that's why I want to show
you
> >the PS2e. We started out making a cut of the end of a 2-1/2" thick piece
of
> >hard maple. Nothing fancy, just a nice smooth "S" shape across the end
> >grain. The cut was smooth and straight up and down. So then he said, lets
do
> >another one. Sure. So he made a parallel cut about 1/8" from the first
one.
> >And the resulting piece was a 2-1/2" tall, 1/8" thick, "S" shaped piece
of
> >end grain hard maple with parallel sides! It just got better after that.
The
> >vacuum system sucked the chips right up, so you could see the cut line,
it
> >connected easily to the straightedge system for super accurate cuts, and
the
> >tilt mechanism was easy to use - and accurate. The downside? Festool uses
> >thicker blades for added stiffness, although it will work with other
> >manufacturer's blades, you won't get the same results.
> >
> >Hope this helps. Feel free to call my tech director, Darin Lawrence, if
you
> >would like further info (1-800-443-7937).
> >
> >Jim Ray, President
> >McFeely's Square Drive Screws
> >www.mcfeelys.com
>


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