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Electric Comet

25/07/2016 3:00 PM

four cylinder saw


wonder if anyone makes these any more

https://archive.org/stream/TM5-4016-nsia


guess the seabees used these









This topic has 75 replies

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Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 5:47 PM

On 7/29/2016 10:45 AM, Swingman wrote:

>
> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>
> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
> on the head, Bubba!
>


It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)

k

in reply to Leon on 29/07/2016 5:47 PM

04/08/2016 9:18 PM

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 15:13:35 -0700, Rudy Canoza <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 8/4/2016 2:48 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 8/4/2016 3:42 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 8/4/2016 1:25 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 8/4/2016 1:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 8/4/2016 2:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>>>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>>>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>>>>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> first place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
>>>>>> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
>>>>>> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
>>>>>> unwanted pregnancy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
>>>>>> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
>>>>>> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
>>>>>> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude.
>>>>> Males
>>>>> think it is macho to make babies, women think they are showing how
>>>>> they
>>>>> can have a man, like a status symbol.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know a young lady about 30, single, but has been in a couple of
>>>>> relationships. Her female Hispanic co-workers just cannot imagine why
>>>>> she doesn't have a baby or two yet.
>>>>>
>>>> And that attitude is destructive to the notion of an intact nuclear
>>>> family, and so is an indirect cause of gun violence. Man-babies grow up
>>>> poor and without a responsible father figure, and eventually turn to
>>>> gangs, drugs and crime.
>>>
>>> 100% of them? Really? Bullshit. I know plenty who haven't. It's true
>>> that there is a lower incidence of social pathology among children
>>> coming from intact nuclear families, but the rate is not 100% for
>>> children from one-parent families, nor is it zero for children from
>>> intact nuclear families.
>>>
>> Please point out where I wrote "100%".
>
>It was when you omitted to write "*Some* 'man-babies' [sic] grow up poor
>and..." *THAT'S* when you said 100%.

Nonsense.

GS

Governor Swill

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 2:26 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul Butch McClure wrote:
>Is it just me or have we become a nation of pussies?

It's not just you. The whole country has gone soft, especially
conservatives shaking in their boots for fear some Muslim terrorist is
going to invade their home and kill them in their sleep.

Swill
--
#imwithher

"With Hillary Clinton, our international relations will not be reduced
to a business transaction." - Marine 4 star General John Allen (ret.)

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

28/07/2016 12:40 PM

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 9:06:38 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
> On 7/26/2016 5:55 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>
> > Those old mills are scary to look at - not only the blade
> > with absolutely no guards, but all the other belts and
> > stuff totally unprotected, all the way back to the motor.
>
> Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
> sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before diving
> boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from playgrounds,
> horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.
>

I upgraded my corn hole set to be more like Tejo, a Columbian
sport that combines alcohol and explosives. What could go wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o16LyndAY2U

BV

Bob Villa

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

25/07/2016 4:40 PM

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 5:03:49 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> wonder if anyone makes these any more
>
> https://archive.org/stream/TM5-4016-nsia
>
>
> guess the seabees used these

You're probably seen this: https://youtu.be/T5WO9nulOXc

EH

Ed Huntress

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 12:33 PM

On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:24:20 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 7/29/2016 3:24 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:29:57 -0400, Tekkie® <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Huntress posted for all of us...
>>>
>>>> Did you get rid of that gas?
>>>>
>>> I heard the fart from here!
>>
>> That essay was written by a guy who watches too much television and
>> spends too little time with the young people he's writing about.
>>
>This reply was written by a guy that spends too much time teaching our
>boys how to apply moisturizer and getting stupid warning labels stuck on
>on everything.

Geez, what are you moisturizing? The place where your balls are
supposed to be?

--
Ed Huntress

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

26/07/2016 4:18 AM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:nn6a6b$1rr$2
@dont-email.me:

> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:40:34 -0700 (PDT)
> Bob Villa <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You're probably seen this: https://youtu.be/T5WO9nulOXc
>
> not able to see at the moment
>
> what is it
>
> let me guess nuclear powered lathe
>
>

Mine's powered by a mix of coal, natural gas, wind, solar, and nuclear. In
spite of all that, it probably has one of the smallest operating costs of
anything I own.

Puckdropper

EH

Ed Huntress

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 6:58 AM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 05:47:03 -0500, Woody Sawyer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Jack <[email protected]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
>[email protected]...
>>
>>On 7/26/2016 5:55 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>>
>>> Those old mills are scary to look at - not only the blade
>>> with absolutely no guards, but all the other belts and
>>> stuff totally unprotected, all the way back to the motor.
>>
>>Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
>>sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before diving
>>boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from playgrounds,
>>horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.
>>
>>Millennials, raised in the home on digital games by hand wringing
>>mothers, are finding Pokemon too dangerous as the pantywaists are forced
>>to actually walk around loose, walking into cars and what-not.
>>
>>They should not be allowed near power tools, particularly anything sharp
>>that is not 110% safe with every guard known to man, wearing chain-link
>>suits of armor, gas masks for dust, giant helmets with bullet proof face
>>masks and built in ear muffs, and the tools should instantly slam to a
>>stop if they even think about putting a pinky in danger.
>
>The wussy force is strong with the American male these days. College boys are
>pitching little hissy fits and demanding ‘safe rooms’ because they happened to
>pass by a ‘Vote For Donald Trump’ sign. Oh, the poor little useless wussies!
>Hard to believe 70 years ago, their great-grandfathers were eating machine gun
>fire on the beaches of Normandy and spitting out lead at the same age.
>
>I suppose the great wealth of America over the past 30 years has allowed males
>the poisonous privilege of not having to work or sacrifice. It made them selfish
>and lazy since nearly every single thing they enjoy has been given to them by
>parents or government with little or no expectation in return. Worse yet, not
>having to work to buy their own sports car gave American boys time to think. As
>we have seen from the youthful supporters of Bernie Sanders, young people with
>time on their hands to think is a dangerous thing.
>
>Young people, as a general rule, are idiots. It’s not their fault. Growing up
>under the total protection and financial support of Mom and Dad does not prepare
>young people for the real world. Experience is a valuable thing and kids of 19
>have no fucking idea of how the real world works. But don’t tell them that. They
>know everything. They’ll tell you as they scream in your face that Bernie
>Sanders is the answer. If you destroy their pitiful arguments of socialist
>utopia, they instantly require a safe room and tissues. This is the spoiled,
>stupid youth of America.
>
>Tomi Lahren has noticed that young men her age are not men at all, but merely
>useless boys:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwwBHuaW4J4
>
>I’m not sure where this metrosexual lumberjack beard thing started. Probably
>Nueva Jork or Mexifornia. Places full of sissified males who read GQ Magazine to
>learn how to be what they think are men. Like I have said on several occasions,
>if you read a men's fashion magazine to learn about being a man, you’re doing it
>all wrong, junior.
>
>It seems that every time the filly and I go out to eat at a restaurant these
>days, our waiter looks like a gay Paul Bunyan. Instead of carrying an axe, they
>carry a moisturizing kit. And we can imagine the only ‘wood’ they are familiar
>with... and it ain’t found in the forest!
>
>These are the types of wussified males Tomi speaks of in her video post. Their
>grandfathers took apart, cleaned and reassembled 1911 .45 ACP’s in the dark.
>Today, wussified metrosexuals moisturize and take lavender scented bubble baths
>in the dark.
>
>While savage Muslims are teaching their children to decapitate their enemies,
>our boys are learning to be offended. They have no idea of the true cost of
>freedom and what is required to retain it. We need to slap the shit out of our
>boys so they will wake up and be able to kick the asses of Muslim boys when the
>time comes.
>
>I suppose we have arrived at this embarrassing moment where too many American
>males are really American women because we allowed liberals and political
>correctness to infect our culture. White males are told from an early age by
>society that they are responsible for everything wrong in the world. They are
>responsible for the malleable actions of their forefathers but receive zero
>credit for the good. They are told white males are responsible for slavery but
>never receive thanks for the fact that white men ended slavery. Any success they
>achieve is due to white privilege and not through hard work and sacrifice.
>
>So males are taught that they must sacrifice their real desires and instincts as
>men to atone for the sins of their forefathers centuries ago. Garrison Keillor
>wrote of this in The Book of Guys:
>
>"Guys are in trouble these days. Years ago, manhood was an opportunity for
>achievement and now it’s just a problem to be overcome. Guys who once might have
>painted the Sistine Chapel ceiling are now just trying to be Mr. O.K. All-Rite,
>the man who can bake a cherry pie, be passionate in a skillful way, and yet also
>lift them bales and tote that barge."
>
>Exactly! Men in America are blamed for everything less than perfect in the world
>but receive no credit for the great things we provide. And the results are
>telling. Our boys often become wussified and poisoned with political correctness
>sacrificing themselves upon the altar of liberalism and feminism.
>
>While women play a very important role in American society, who are you going to
>call when the SHTF? Code Pink? The National Association of Ugly Women? I prefer
>the United States Marine Corp. But that is the point. When both sexes play their
>natural roles, things run smooth. When men try to be women or women try to be
>men, you get Europe. Or San Francisco. Or New York. And each is a fucking
>disaster zone.
>
>Ironically, any woman worth having doesn’t want a wussified metrosexual as a
>mate. Women still prefer a strong, gentle, hard-working, responsible man who
>will protect and provide for her and her children. Unless said women are
>hard-core liberals and/or lesbians. And then their problems have only begun.
>Liberals and/or lesbians are destined to a life of anger, loneliness and the
>ownership of numerous cats. Just like metrosexuals. And both will be miserable
>failures.
>
>America’s future is in deep Dukakis based upon what we see from young wussified
>males. As Tomi pointed out, most can’t change a tire or oil. Guns scare them.
>Bless their little worthless hearts. I’m not sure how this nightmare will change
>at this point.
>
>Wealth is a good thing but it is also dangerous if not controlled. Wealth allows
>our progeny to live comfortable easy lives without doing a thing to earn it. But
>it makes us soft. And that softness makes us vulnerable to America’s enemies.
>
>When ISIS or any other enemy decides to attack America, it will likely fall to
>us older American men to protect our society. Too many of our young men will be
>found cowering in safe rooms on university campuses. Moisturizing.

Did you get rid of that gas?

--
Ed Huntress

GS

Governor Swill

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

03/08/2016 1:43 PM

On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>> kids, than men.

>If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>fewer abortions,

Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
unwanted pregnancy? It may not be the solution you or I would like,
but she's resolving the issue herself.

>fewer unwed mothers,

She's an unwed mother because she refused to get an abortion and the
guy who knocked her up ran away because he didn't want to be
responsible for the baby he made.

>and fewer welfare moms.

Women make less money than men. That's a fact that conservatives
generally don't want to see change. Since she's been abandoned by the
father, government takes the responsibility to help make sure those
kids don't starve. How is that a bad thing? And isn't she taking
responsibility for the child she had by raising it?

In short, your argument has more holes than a shotgun target.

Swill
--
#imwithher

"[With Hillary Clinton] our international relations will not be reduced
to a business transaction." - Marine 4 star General John Allen (ret.)

GS

Governor Swill

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

04/08/2016 11:29 PM

On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 21:54:36 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:46:47 -0400, Governor Swill
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 31 Jul [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Fri, 29 Jul Leon wrote:
>>>>On 7/29/2016 Swingman wrote:
>>>>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>>>>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>>>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>>>>> on the head, Bubba!
>>>>It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>>>>day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)
>>
>>>Air conditioning was what allowed the South to grow (good or bad).
>>>Atlanta would still be a wide spot in the road without cheap AC. It
>>>didn't take off until the '60s.
>>
>>Atlanta was a regional city even before the Civil War. But you're
>>right about cheap ac and the city taking off in the sixties.
>
>Sure, I was being a "tad" hyperbolic. The growth has been amazing,
>though.
>
>Metro population:
>1950 - 1960 - 1970 - 1980 - 1990 - 2000 - 2010
>1.0M 1.3M 1.8M 2.2M 3.0M 4.1M 5.3M
> 30% 38% 22% 44% 37% 29%
>
>>When I first moved there, the tallest building in town was 22 floors
>>and there weren't a dozen of what we'd call "skyscrapers".
>
>I first moved here in '11 (three years earlier we moved 70mi down the
>road)

I first moved there back in 1969 when the Hyatt's "flying saucer" was
a local landmark. Now it's completely obscured by taller structures.

>>Today, it's skyline rivals all but the very largest of cities.
>
>It's not all in one place, making it look smaller than it is.

Depends on your point of view. The 'scrapers are spread in clumps
northward from Five Points along the Peachtree ridge, so a view from
the east or west makes it look bigger. The majority of the tallest
ones have addresses on Peachtree Street.

Then there's the growing Buckhead cluster along Peachtree Rd and the
Marietta cluster at 285 and 75 in the nw corner.

Swill
--
#imwithher

Vote Trump/Pence
Make Russia Great Again!

Mm

Markem

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

28/07/2016 3:41 PM

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:06:31 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 7/26/2016 5:55 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>
>> Those old mills are scary to look at - not only the blade
>> with absolutely no guards, but all the other belts and
>> stuff totally unprotected, all the way back to the motor.
>
>Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
>sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before diving
>boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from playgrounds,
>horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.
>
>Millennials, raised in the home on digital games by hand wringing
>mothers, are finding Pokemon too dangerous as the pantywaists are forced
>to actually walk around loose, walking into cars and what-not.
>
>They should not be allowed near power tools, particularly anything sharp
>that is not 110% safe with every guard known to man, wearing chain-link
>suits of armor, gas masks for dust, giant helmets with bullet proof face
>masks and built in ear muffs, and the tools should instantly slam to a
>stop if they even think about putting a pinky in danger.

And they should definitely stay off your lawn, right Jack.

BM

Beam Me Up Scotty

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 8:08 PM

On 07/29/2016 07:12 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:47:46 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/29/2016 10:45 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>>
>>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>>> on the head, Bubba!
>>>
>>
>>
>> It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>> day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)
>
> Real men sweat in the heat and watch 8-inch black and white TVs. <g>
>
> I wonder how often these guys get out and see the real world.
>
You mean the Blue people in AVATAR are real?

I always figured they were gray.

--
That's Karma ;)






*Rumination*
#78 - And Liberal-Democrats as we know, want all the money, benefits and
accolades.... but they want *none* of the responsibility, work or
consequences.

iT

=?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?=

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 2:29 PM

Ed Huntress posted for all of us...


>
> Did you get rid of that gas?
>

I heard the fart from here!

--
Tekkie

MC

Mike Colangelo

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

03/08/2016 12:38 PM

On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>> kids, than men.
>
>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>> fewer abortions,
>
> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
> unwanted pregnancy?

"taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in the
first place.

BM

Beam Me Up Scotty

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

03/08/2016 3:47 PM

On 08/03/2016 03:39 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>
>>> and fewer welfare moms.
>>
>> Women make less money than men. That's a fact that conservatives
>> generally don't want to see change.
>
> Bullshit. There is no "gender gap" in wages and salaries.


Hillary laughing at 12 year old girl being raped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDzRtZLUkc

https://youtu.be/w__PJ8ymliw?t=6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT9jeK30yH8

Feminism-->Fempocalypse-->Liberalism-->Marxism

MC

Mike Colangelo

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

03/08/2016 12:39 PM

On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:

>> and fewer welfare moms.
>
> Women make less money than men. That's a fact that conservatives
> generally don't want to see change.

Bullshit. There is no "gender gap" in wages and salaries.

JW

Just Wondering

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

02/08/2016 1:46 AM

On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>
> Women are always more responsible, especially about
> kids, than men.
>
If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
fewer abortions,
fewer unwed mothers, and
fewer welfare moms.

BM

Beam Me Up Scotty

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

03/08/2016 3:49 PM

On 08/03/2016 03:38 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>> kids, than men.
>>
>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>> fewer abortions,
>>
>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>> unwanted pregnancy?
>
> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in the
> first place.
>
So murdering someone and stealing their money is taking responsibility
for being poor? At least in the Liberals world it is.

--
That's Karma ;)






*Rumination*
#27 - Liberalism is a black hole from which no intelligence escapes.

JM

John McCoy

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

26/07/2016 9:55 PM

John McGaw <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 7/25/2016 6:00 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>>
>> wonder if anyone makes these any more
>>
>> https://archive.org/stream/TM5-4016-nsia
>>
>>
>> guess the seabees used these
>>
>>
> Probably not although I did run across a circular saw mill in one of
> the hollers east of here that was powered by a Ford Model T engine in
> all its glory. It even had the wide canvas belts what were engaged by
> a big lever.

Up near Perry FL there's an old cracker with a saw mill
powered by a Chrysler FirePower V8 (at least, I think
that's what it is). It doesn't look like it's run in
the last half century, altho the old guy insists he's
still in business milling lumber. Swindell, I think his
name was - I have his card around somewhere.

Those old mills are scary to look at - not only the blade
with absolutely no guards, but all the other belts and
stuff totally unprotected, all the way back to the motor.

John

JW

Just Wondering

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 2:19 PM

On 8/4/2016 12:31 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo wrote:
>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>
>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>
>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a
>>> surprise or unwanted pregnancy?
>>
>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted
>> pregnancy in the first place.
>
> Which makes men equally liable.
>
No one has claimed otherwise.

RC

Rudy Canoza

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 2:00 PM

On 8/4/2016 12:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 2:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>>
>>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in
>>>> the
>>>> first place.
>>>
>>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>
>> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
>> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
>> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
>> unwanted pregnancy.
>>
>> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
>> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
>> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
>> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>>
>
> The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude. Males
> think it is macho to make babies,

That's bullshit. Most unattached men having sex with women either don't
think about a baby being conceived, or don't want it to happen but
aren't willing to take the first step to prevent it. I think even in an
age of many men thinking "that's *her* problem," they still would rather
a baby not be conceived, because some women will come after them for money.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 7:59 PM

On 8/4/2016 5:00 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:

>>>
>>
>> The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude. Males
>> think it is macho to make babies,
>
> That's bullshit. Most unattached men having sex with women either don't
> think about a baby being conceived, or don't want it to happen but
> aren't willing to take the first step to prevent it. I think even in an
> age of many men thinking "that's *her* problem," they still would rather
> a baby not be conceived, because some women will come after them for money.

I'd agree if I didn't hear some of the guys bragging how many babies
they have, often with two or three mothers. Since many of the fathers
don't have regular employment they are content getting state aid.

RC

Rudy Canoza

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 2:42 PM

On 8/4/2016 1:25 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 1:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/4/2016 2:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>>>
>>>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in
>>>>> the
>>>>> first place.
>>>>
>>>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>>
>>> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
>>> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
>>> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
>>> unwanted pregnancy.
>>>
>>> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
>>> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
>>> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
>>> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>>
>> The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude. Males
>> think it is macho to make babies, women think they are showing how they
>> can have a man, like a status symbol.
>>
>> I know a young lady about 30, single, but has been in a couple of
>> relationships. Her female Hispanic co-workers just cannot imagine why
>> she doesn't have a baby or two yet.
>>
> And that attitude is destructive to the notion of an intact nuclear
> family, and so is an indirect cause of gun violence. Man-babies grow up
> poor and without a responsible father figure, and eventually turn to
> gangs, drugs and crime.

100% of them? Really? Bullshit. I know plenty who haven't. It's true
that there is a lower incidence of social pathology among children
coming from intact nuclear families, but the rate is not 100% for
children from one-parent families, nor is it zero for children from
intact nuclear families.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 3:20 PM

On 8/4/2016 2:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>
>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>
>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>
>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in the
>>> first place.
>>
>> Which makes men equally liable.
>
> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
> unwanted pregnancy.
>
> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>

The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude. Males
think it is macho to make babies, women think they are showing how they
can have a man, like a status symbol.

I know a young lady about 30, single, but has been in a couple of
relationships. Her female Hispanic co-workers just cannot imagine why
she doesn't have a baby or two yet.

The don't want pills, condoms or abortions, the want food stamps.

JW

Just Wondering

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 3:48 PM

On 8/4/2016 3:42 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 1:25 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 8/4/2016 1:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 8/4/2016 2:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> first place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>>>
>>>> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
>>>> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
>>>> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
>>>> unwanted pregnancy.
>>>>
>>>> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
>>>> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
>>>> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
>>>> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>>>
>>> The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude. Males
>>> think it is macho to make babies, women think they are showing how they
>>> can have a man, like a status symbol.
>>>
>>> I know a young lady about 30, single, but has been in a couple of
>>> relationships. Her female Hispanic co-workers just cannot imagine why
>>> she doesn't have a baby or two yet.
>>>
>> And that attitude is destructive to the notion of an intact nuclear
>> family, and so is an indirect cause of gun violence. Man-babies grow up
>> poor and without a responsible father figure, and eventually turn to
>> gangs, drugs and crime.
>
> 100% of them? Really? Bullshit. I know plenty who haven't. It's true
> that there is a lower incidence of social pathology among children
> coming from intact nuclear families, but the rate is not 100% for
> children from one-parent families, nor is it zero for children from
> intact nuclear families.
>
Please point out where I wrote "100%".
< crickets chirping >

SE

Sam E

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

06/08/2016 11:06 AM

On 08/05/2016 10:07 PM, [email protected] wrote:

[snip]

> But *everything* in Georgia is named "Peachtree" something. I work in
> Peachtree City (where there are tons of cherry trees, pear trees, and
> golf carts but no peach trees).

I used to live on Sycamore Street, where there were a lot of oak trees
but no sycamore trees. There were plenty of sycamore trees a block away,
on Mulberry Street.

BTW, the place I used to live is now a parking lot.

[snip]

RC

Rudy Canoza

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 1:58 PM

On 8/4/2016 1:21 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 12:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>>
>>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in
>>>> the
>>>> first place.
>>>
>>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>
>> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
>> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
>> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
>> unwanted pregnancy.
>>
> None of which negates the idea that if there is an unwanted pregnancy,
> both participants are equally liable.

You're stupid. What I wrote *does* negate that there is equal liability.

The responsibility for preventing pregnancy falls heavier on the woman.

>> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
>> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
>> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
>> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>>
> True, but that also does not negate a man's responsibility
> in the matter.

It's not negated, but it's less. Men don't get pregnant.

RC

Rudy Canoza

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 11:38 AM

On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>
>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>
>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>
>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in the
>> first place.
>
> Which makes men equally liable.

No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
unwanted pregnancy.

It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
[chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.

GS

Governor Swill

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 2:31 PM

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
wrote:

>On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>> kids, than men.
>>
>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>> fewer abortions,
>>
>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>> unwanted pregnancy?
>
>"taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in the
>first place.

Which makes men equally liable.

Swill
--
#imwithher

Vote Trump/Pence
Make Russia Great Again!

JW

Just Wondering

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 2:21 PM

On 8/4/2016 12:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>
>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>
>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>
>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in the
>>> first place.
>>
>> Which makes men equally liable.
>
> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
> unwanted pregnancy.
>
None of which negates the idea that if there is an unwanted pregnancy,
both participants are equally liable.

> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>
True, but that also does not negate a man's responsibility
in the matter.

RC

Rudy Canoza

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 3:13 PM

On 8/4/2016 2:48 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 3:42 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 8/4/2016 1:25 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 8/4/2016 1:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 8/4/2016 2:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>>>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> first place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
>>>>> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
>>>>> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
>>>>> unwanted pregnancy.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
>>>>> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
>>>>> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
>>>>> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude.
>>>> Males
>>>> think it is macho to make babies, women think they are showing how
>>>> they
>>>> can have a man, like a status symbol.
>>>>
>>>> I know a young lady about 30, single, but has been in a couple of
>>>> relationships. Her female Hispanic co-workers just cannot imagine why
>>>> she doesn't have a baby or two yet.
>>>>
>>> And that attitude is destructive to the notion of an intact nuclear
>>> family, and so is an indirect cause of gun violence. Man-babies grow up
>>> poor and without a responsible father figure, and eventually turn to
>>> gangs, drugs and crime.
>>
>> 100% of them? Really? Bullshit. I know plenty who haven't. It's true
>> that there is a lower incidence of social pathology among children
>> coming from intact nuclear families, but the rate is not 100% for
>> children from one-parent families, nor is it zero for children from
>> intact nuclear families.
>>
> Please point out where I wrote "100%".

It was when you omitted to write "*Some* 'man-babies' [sic] grow up poor
and..." *THAT'S* when you said 100%.

c

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

07/08/2016 7:56 PM

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:39:23 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
wrote:

>On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>
>>> and fewer welfare moms.
>>
>> Women make less money than men. That's a fact that conservatives
>> generally don't want to see change.
>
>Bullshit. There is no "gender gap" in wages and salaries.
Both of my daughters make more than I ever did. My wife made a lot
more than I did when she was also working.

JW

Just Wondering

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 2:25 PM

On 8/4/2016 1:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 2:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>>
>>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in
>>>> the
>>>> first place.
>>>
>>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>
>> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
>> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
>> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
>> unwanted pregnancy.
>>
>> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
>> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
>> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
>> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>
> The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude. Males
> think it is macho to make babies, women think they are showing how they
> can have a man, like a status symbol.
>
> I know a young lady about 30, single, but has been in a couple of
> relationships. Her female Hispanic co-workers just cannot imagine why
> she doesn't have a baby or two yet.
>
And that attitude is destructive to the notion of an intact nuclear
family, and so is an indirect cause of gun violence. Man-babies grow up
poor and without a responsible father figure, and eventually turn to
gangs, drugs and crime.

k

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

03/08/2016 9:24 PM

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
wrote:

>On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>> kids, than men.
>>
>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>> fewer abortions,
>>
>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>> unwanted pregnancy?
>
>"taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in the
>first place.

Bingo!

k

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

05/08/2016 11:07 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 23:29:32 -0400, Governor Swill
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 21:54:36 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:46:47 -0400, Governor Swill
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 31 Jul [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 29 Jul Leon wrote:
>>>>>On 7/29/2016 Swingman wrote:
>>>>>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>>>>>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>>>>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>>>>>> on the head, Bubba!
>>>>>It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>>>>>day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)
>>>
>>>>Air conditioning was what allowed the South to grow (good or bad).
>>>>Atlanta would still be a wide spot in the road without cheap AC. It
>>>>didn't take off until the '60s.
>>>
>>>Atlanta was a regional city even before the Civil War. But you're
>>>right about cheap ac and the city taking off in the sixties.
>>
>>Sure, I was being a "tad" hyperbolic. The growth has been amazing,
>>though.
>>
>>Metro population:
>>1950 - 1960 - 1970 - 1980 - 1990 - 2000 - 2010
>>1.0M 1.3M 1.8M 2.2M 3.0M 4.1M 5.3M
>> 30% 38% 22% 44% 37% 29%
>>
>>>When I first moved there, the tallest building in town was 22 floors
>>>and there weren't a dozen of what we'd call "skyscrapers".
>>
>>I first moved here in '11 (three years earlier we moved 70mi down the
>>road)
>
>I first moved there back in 1969 when the Hyatt's "flying saucer" was
>a local landmark. Now it's completely obscured by taller structures.
>
>>>Today, it's skyline rivals all but the very largest of cities.
>>
>>It's not all in one place, making it look smaller than it is.
>
>Depends on your point of view. The 'scrapers are spread in clumps
>northward from Five Points along the Peachtree ridge, so a view from
>the east or west makes it look bigger. The majority of the tallest
>ones have addresses on Peachtree Street.

But *everything* in Georgia is named "Peachtree" something. I work in
Peachtree City (where there are tons of cherry trees, pear trees, and
golf carts but no peach trees).

>Then there's the growing Buckhead cluster along Peachtree Rd and the
^^^^^^^^^^^^ see?
>Marietta cluster at 285 and 75 in the nw corner.

Buckhead and Marietta were what I was referring to.

MC

Mike Colangelo

in reply to John McCoy on 26/07/2016 9:55 PM

04/08/2016 1:56 PM

On 8/4/2016 1:19 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 12:31 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>
>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>
>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a
>>>> surprise or unwanted pregnancy?
>>>
>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted
>>> pregnancy in the first place.
>>
>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>
> No one has claimed otherwise.

I have claimed otherwise. The liability is not equal.

Mo

Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

08/08/2016 11:15 AM

Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Women make less money than men. That's a fact that conservatives
> generally don't want to see change.

You are so full of shit. Ypu clearly have not worked in a long time.

ALL of my managers in the last 20 years have been woman and presumably paid
more than I am. And in general they have been terrible. Bad people skills,
bad tech skills. The fact that they are working is an EEOC gift.

--
"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned
from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let
them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and
pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of
liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and
tyrants. It is its natural manure."--Thomas Jefferson, Nov. 13, 1787

c

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

26/07/2016 8:17 PM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:33:19 -0400, John McGaw <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 7/25/2016 6:00 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>>
>> wonder if anyone makes these any more
>>
>> https://archive.org/stream/TM5-4016-nsia
>>
>>
>> guess the seabees used these
>>
>>
>Probably not although I did run across a circular saw mill in one of the
>hollers east of here that was powered by a Ford Model T engine in all its
>glory. It even had the wide canvas belts what were engaged by a big lever.
Has a circular saw (abou 40 inch diameter) that was belt driven off
the pulley of the 1949 Massey Harris 44 with a 6 inch wide flat belt.
Cutting rock elm would open the governor up pretty good.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 10:45 AM

On 7/29/2016 7:55 AM, Butch McClure wrote:

> Is it just me or have we become a nation of pussies? And where was
> I when this cosmic shift took place? Let me explain "cosmic shift"
> through example. When I was a baby we did not have a car seat, no
> one did. When I got older I would sit in the front seat without a
> seatbelt, everyone did. I did not own or wear a bicycle helmet as
> a kid - I still don't. In any event, somewhere along the line a
> cosmic shift took place where only lunatics would put a baby in a
> car without a car seat or drive without seatbelts. The same sort
> of cosmic shift is nearly completed with bicycle helmets. It's a
> strange sort of phenomenon that sometimes makes sense but at other
> times it doesn't.
>
> Another cosmic shift has taken place in America but this one is
> repugnant in all ways. I'm talking about the pussification of
> American men. The seat belts and the bike helmets are all part of
> this and the cosmic shift really accelerated after 9-11. Fear
> began to trump sex on Madison Avenue. The metrosexual has become
> the symbol of American masculinity. Hugh Grant has replaced Cary
> Grant as a Hollywood icon of masculinity. I was at a party
> recently and some hag was blathering on about how hot David
> Schwimmer is. He's the guy that was on Friends always blubbering
> on about his feelings or something. Can you imagine this guy
> playing along side of John Wayne in the Sands of Iwo Jima?
>
> I was really struck by this pussification this summer at my
> son's t-ball game. It was warm and sunny but nothing unusual. A
> mother came out of the stands and asked me, the coach, if I had
> sun screen and water for the kids. I just sort of looked at her in
> a mystified state. I said we have hats and a bubbler behind the
> back stop. T-ball is not really known for making kids sweat much
> at all and I figured sun tan lotion is for the beach. I'm not
> opposed to a kid running over to the bubbler for a drink. She then
> proceeded to spray sun screen on all 15 kids and practically
> forced them to gulp some bottled water. Parents in the stands
> literally cheered her for her safety first approach.
>
> I just sort of shrugged it off but later I heard one boy comment
> to Mrs. Worrywart's kid, "Why was your mom spraying us with that
> stuff. You're mom's stupid." A few other kids chimed in as well
> and Mrs. Worrywart's son just sort of sat there in a state of
> slumped resignation. It pretty much ended at that but I was just a
> little inspired to know that masculinity is still inherent in
> boys. Its society and people like Mrs. Worrywart that beat it out
> of them.
>
> I have been blessed with three sons and counting. It's my mission
> in life to see that they don't become metrosexuals. My wife can
> harp on them about washing their hands and not farting at the
> dinner table but I'm in charge of what they do out of the house.
> They're boy's, boys complete with dirty faces and skinned knees.
> They jump, wrestle and horse play at every opportunity. They are
> not and will not be pussies.
>
> Of course this will be a challenge in this day and age of hand
> wringing and anti-anxiety medications. I was called into school
> for one of my kids last year. A kid cut in front of him in line
> and he corrected the punk. I didn't see the big deal but the
> principle did so we took our licks. I still instructed him to
> stand up for himself, not be punked by a punk and to choose his
> battles wisely.
>
> At this juncture many of you are proving my point with your
> thoughts. Those of you that think I'm an awful father for not
> telling my son to ignore the bully, to tell the teacher or run
> away have bought into the pussification of American men lock,
> stock and barrel.
>
> Just this past 4th of July weekend some punks were blowing of
> fireworks in the park behind my house. I had no problem with this
> until they started launching shit into my backyard. I marched over
> there and gave them two choices. I guess that makes me pro-choice.
> They had the choice to launch their shit at my house or away from
> my house. The consequences of course would be different for each
> choice. They chose to launch away from my house - the correct
> choice. My neighbors chastised me for being so rash and
> challenging the punks. "What if they would have had a gun?" My
> response was that we would have had a gun fight. You see I'd
> rather do something and take the chance than to have my sons see
> me cower behind the curtains like half a fag.
>
> There was a time in this country when most men would have acted
> just like I did. When I was kid the adult men were all WWII vets
> and those guys put up with no shit. Consequently we had little
> crime in our neighborhood. A lot of fist fights but little crime.
> In that exact same neighborhood we now have the opposite. No fist
> fights but a shit load of bullshit crime and good men that do
> nothing. They have all the excuses down about having kids, fearing
> lawsuits and guns but all this is simply caving into cowardice.
>
> Maybe I'm an anomaly but I was taught that it's my job as the man
> of the house to put his balls on the line from time to time. This
> means protecting my home and neighborhood. I don't have problem
> with this and it comes quite natural but I learned this throughout
> a childhood and adolescent of rough play and risk taking. I'm not
> talking about foolishness here. I'm talking about bravery,
> toughness and balls. These used to be cherished traits among men
> and women admired these qualities in men as well. Nowadays we are
> all confused about these things. Being a hard dude doesn't mean
> you are misogynistic piece of shit that we see glorified in rap
> videos. A real man has a big heart that he reserves for his family
> and friends. For the assholes in the world he has his balls, big
> ones.
>
> We have a lot of social problems in our country these days and
> everyone has their pet theory that explains the reasons for the
> proliferation of these problems. Conservatives blame big
> government and welfare. Liberals think we don't have enough big
> government and welfare. It's Bush's fault! Blame it on Obama!
> Bullshit. I blame it on men who have ceased to be men.
>
> Behind ever battered woman, every knocked up teenage girl and
> every punk firing off guns indiscriminately are millions of men
> that won't do their jobs as fathers or simply as stand up guys
> that won't abide by bullshit. Men have become pussified in America
> but I won't have any part of it.

Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.

Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
on the head, Bubba!

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k

in reply to Swingman on 29/07/2016 10:45 AM

04/08/2016 9:18 PM

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 14:42:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 8/4/2016 1:25 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 8/4/2016 1:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 8/4/2016 2:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> first place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>>>
>>>> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
>>>> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
>>>> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
>>>> unwanted pregnancy.
>>>>
>>>> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
>>>> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
>>>> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
>>>> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>>>
>>> The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude. Males
>>> think it is macho to make babies, women think they are showing how they
>>> can have a man, like a status symbol.
>>>
>>> I know a young lady about 30, single, but has been in a couple of
>>> relationships. Her female Hispanic co-workers just cannot imagine why
>>> she doesn't have a baby or two yet.
>>>
>> And that attitude is destructive to the notion of an intact nuclear
>> family, and so is an indirect cause of gun violence. Man-babies grow up
>> poor and without a responsible father figure, and eventually turn to
>> gangs, drugs and crime.
>
>100% of them? Really? Bullshit. I know plenty who haven't. It's true
>that there is a lower incidence of social pathology among children
>coming from intact nuclear families, but the rate is not 100% for
>children from one-parent families, nor is it zero for children from
>intact nuclear families.

That's an absurd argument. The fact is that fatherless kids are *far*
more likely to drop out of school, turn to drugs, become criminals,
and die at the hands of other fatherless kids.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

03/08/2016 2:11 PM

On 8/3/2016 1:43 PM, Governor Swill wrote:


> Women make less money than men. That's a fact that conservatives
> generally don't want to see change.

That depends on how you do the numbers. in the past, employers did pay
women less for the same job, perhaps a few do. Most have come to the
21st century either because the are enlightened or fear of government
regulation. Most businesses now pay the same wage for a man and woman
working side by side doing the same job.

Why the difference? If you randomly take 10, 100, or 1000 men and the
same number of women, the man's wage will come out higher. The reason
is obvious if you look. Engineers. miners, doctors positions pay more
than bank tellers, nurses, and secretaries. More men still tend to go
to the first three professions while women tend to go to the last three.
As long as you use those statistics and women make the same choices,
they as a group will earn less.

EH

Ed Huntress

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 9:46 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:57:53 -0700, Woody Sawyer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Ed Huntress <[email protected]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
>[email protected]...
>>
>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:29:57 -0400, Tekkie® <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Ed Huntress posted for all of us...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you get rid of that gas?
>>>>
>>>
>>>I heard the fart from here!
>>
>>That essay was written by a guy who watches too much television and
>>spends too little time with the young people he's writing about.
>
>How bout you and your fart sniffing Ladyboy friend tuck your tender little
>manginas in a pair of these and keep right on pretending old Woody don't know
>what he's writing about. ;)

Who do you think you are, Melania Trump? You didn't write anything.
That stupid "essay" is all over the Web:

http://awdude.com/2016/03/is-manliness-doomed-in-america-the-wussification-of-males/

--
Ed Huntress

EH

Ed Huntress

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 3:24 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:29:57 -0400, Tekkie® <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Ed Huntress posted for all of us...
>
>
>>
>> Did you get rid of that gas?
>>
>
>I heard the fart from here!

That essay was written by a guy who watches too much television and
spends too little time with the young people he's writing about.

--
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b

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

28/07/2016 10:58 AM

"first thing i did when i got my skilsaw so many years ago was to jam
a sixteen penny nail to keep that guard out of the way"

This kind of explains the whys and wherefores of the vast majority of your "contributions" to this board...sadly, I might add...

Might I assume the shift and punctuation keys have been disabled for a similar reason?

k

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

03/08/2016 9:54 PM

On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:46:47 -0400, Governor Swill
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Jul [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 29 Jul Leon wrote:
>>>On 7/29/2016 Swingman wrote:
>>>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>>>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>>>> on the head, Bubba!
>>>It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>>>day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)
>
>>Air conditioning was what allowed the South to grow (good or bad).
>>Atlanta would still be a wide spot in the road without cheap AC. It
>>didn't take off until the '60s.
>
>Atlanta was a regional city even before the Civil War. But you're
>right about cheap ac and the city taking off in the sixties.

Sure, I was being a "tad" hyperbolic. The growth has been amazing,
though.

Metro population:
1950 - 1960 - 1970 - 1980 - 1990 - 2000 - 2010
1.0M 1.3M 1.8M 2.2M 3.0M 4.1M 5.3M
30% 38% 22% 44% 37% 29%

>When I first moved there, the tallest building in town was 22 floors
>and there weren't a dozen of what we'd call "skyscrapers".

I first moved here in '11 (three years earlier we moved 70mi down the
road)
>
>Today, it's skyline rivals all but the very largest of cities.

It's not all in one place, making it look smaller than it is.

GS

Governor Swill

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 2:28 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 19:12:13 -0400, Ed Huntress
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:47:46 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>wrote:
>
>>On 7/29/2016 10:45 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>>
>>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>>> on the head, Bubba!
>>>
>>
>>
>>It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>>day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)
>
>Real men sweat in the heat and watch 8-inch black and white TVs. <g>
>
>I wonder how often these guys get out and see the real world.

Real World is that show on MTV innit? ;)

Swill
--
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to a business transaction." - Marine 4 star General John Allen (ret.)

GS

Governor Swill

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

01/08/2016 11:52 PM

On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:55:05 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:

>It all started when wall to wall carpeting was invented. The wife wanted
>it, they couldn't afford it on the guys income, so the wife had to go to
>work to afford wall to wall carpet. Next, she screwed her boss, got
>divorced, raised the youngsters unsupervised, and with no father figure
>anywhere to be found.
>
>This destroyed the classic family where the wife nurtures the kids by
>day, and the father teaches the boys how to be a man, and administers
>discipline by night. The result is few men exist, but they all know how
>to cook and apply moisturizer, but change oil replace a light switch, no
>way. Shop class is replaced with home ec, laws are passed to remove all
>risk from all activities, personal responsibility is eliminated as much
>as possible, and table saws shriek to a stop if you look at them crooked.
>
>Soon people will be turned into to just a fat head in a jar, willing
>everything to happen at a safe distance, completely protected from... Life.

Yeah. Blame the woman.

How about the guy who dumps his wife and kids because he wants a
pretty young thing in his middle age to tell him he's just as good as
he was twenty years ago?

Or the alcoholic abuser who can't keep a job so his wife has to work
to keep food on the table?

Or the dude who told her he loved her, sweet talked her into the sack
and when she turned up pregnant after a couple months of sweet lovin',
packed his bags and hit the road?

Clue: Women are always more responsible, especially about kids, than
men.

Swill
--
#imwithher

"[With Hillary Clinton] our international relations will not be reduced
to a business transaction." - Marine 4 star General John Allen (ret.)

EH

Ed Huntress

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 7:12 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:47:46 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 7/29/2016 10:45 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>>
>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>
>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>> on the head, Bubba!
>>
>
>
>It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)

Real men sweat in the heat and watch 8-inch black and white TVs. <g>

I wonder how often these guys get out and see the real world.

--
Ed Huntress

EH

Ed Huntress

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 8:25 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 20:08:58 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
<Liberalism-is-exposed-as-unsustainable-self-destructive-and-contradicting@cyberspace.nebulax.com>
wrote:

>On 07/29/2016 07:12 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:47:46 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/29/2016 10:45 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>>>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>>>> on the head, Bubba!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>>> day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)
>>
>> Real men sweat in the heat and watch 8-inch black and white TVs. <g>
>>
>> I wonder how often these guys get out and see the real world.
>>
>You mean the Blue people in AVATAR are real?
>
>I always figured they were gray.

They're about as real as 1,036% inflation since 1980, BMUS, as you
have tried to convince us. d8-)

--
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GA

Gunner Asch

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 4:24 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 05:47:03 -0500, Woody Sawyer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Jack <[email protected]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
>[email protected]...
>>
>>On 7/26/2016 5:55 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>>
>>> Those old mills are scary to look at - not only the blade
>>> with absolutely no guards, but all the other belts and
>>> stuff totally unprotected, all the way back to the motor.
>>
>>Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
>>sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before diving
>>boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from playgrounds,
>>horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.
>>
>>Millennials, raised in the home on digital games by hand wringing
>>mothers, are finding Pokemon too dangerous as the pantywaists are forced
>>to actually walk around loose, walking into cars and what-not.
>>
>>They should not be allowed near power tools, particularly anything sharp
>>that is not 110% safe with every guard known to man, wearing chain-link
>>suits of armor, gas masks for dust, giant helmets with bullet proof face
>>masks and built in ear muffs, and the tools should instantly slam to a
>>stop if they even think about putting a pinky in danger.
>
>The wussy force is strong with the American male these days. College boys are
>pitching little hissy fits and demanding ‘safe rooms’ because they happened to
>pass by a ‘Vote For Donald Trump’ sign. Oh, the poor little useless wussies!
>Hard to believe 70 years ago, their great-grandfathers were eating machine gun
>fire on the beaches of Normandy and spitting out lead at the same age.
>
>I suppose the great wealth of America over the past 30 years has allowed males
>the poisonous privilege of not having to work or sacrifice. It made them selfish
>and lazy since nearly every single thing they enjoy has been given to them by
>parents or government with little or no expectation in return. Worse yet, not
>having to work to buy their own sports car gave American boys time to think. As
>we have seen from the youthful supporters of Bernie Sanders, young people with
>time on their hands to think is a dangerous thing.
>
>Young people, as a general rule, are idiots. It’s not their fault. Growing up
>under the total protection and financial support of Mom and Dad does not prepare
>young people for the real world. Experience is a valuable thing and kids of 19
>have no fucking idea of how the real world works. But don’t tell them that. They
>know everything. They’ll tell you as they scream in your face that Bernie
>Sanders is the answer. If you destroy their pitiful arguments of socialist
>utopia, they instantly require a safe room and tissues. This is the spoiled,
>stupid youth of America.
>
>Tomi Lahren has noticed that young men her age are not men at all, but merely
>useless boys:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwwBHuaW4J4
>
>I’m not sure where this metrosexual lumberjack beard thing started. Probably
>Nueva Jork or Mexifornia. Places full of sissified males who read GQ Magazine to
>learn how to be what they think are men. Like I have said on several occasions,
>if you read a men's fashion magazine to learn about being a man, you’re doing it
>all wrong, junior.
>
>It seems that every time the filly and I go out to eat at a restaurant these
>days, our waiter looks like a gay Paul Bunyan. Instead of carrying an axe, they
>carry a moisturizing kit. And we can imagine the only ‘wood’ they are familiar
>with... and it ain’t found in the forest!
>
>These are the types of wussified males Tomi speaks of in her video post. Their
>grandfathers took apart, cleaned and reassembled 1911 .45 ACP’s in the dark.
>Today, wussified metrosexuals moisturize and take lavender scented bubble baths
>in the dark.
>
>While savage Muslims are teaching their children to decapitate their enemies,
>our boys are learning to be offended. They have no idea of the true cost of
>freedom and what is required to retain it. We need to slap the shit out of our
>boys so they will wake up and be able to kick the asses of Muslim boys when the
>time comes.
>
>I suppose we have arrived at this embarrassing moment where too many American
>males are really American women because we allowed liberals and political
>correctness to infect our culture. White males are told from an early age by
>society that they are responsible for everything wrong in the world. They are
>responsible for the malleable actions of their forefathers but receive zero
>credit for the good. They are told white males are responsible for slavery but
>never receive thanks for the fact that white men ended slavery. Any success they
>achieve is due to white privilege and not through hard work and sacrifice.
>
>So males are taught that they must sacrifice their real desires and instincts as
>men to atone for the sins of their forefathers centuries ago. Garrison Keillor
>wrote of this in The Book of Guys:
>
>"Guys are in trouble these days. Years ago, manhood was an opportunity for
>achievement and now it’s just a problem to be overcome. Guys who once might have
>painted the Sistine Chapel ceiling are now just trying to be Mr. O.K. All-Rite,
>the man who can bake a cherry pie, be passionate in a skillful way, and yet also
>lift them bales and tote that barge."
>
>Exactly! Men in America are blamed for everything less than perfect in the world
>but receive no credit for the great things we provide. And the results are
>telling. Our boys often become wussified and poisoned with political correctness
>sacrificing themselves upon the altar of liberalism and feminism.
>
>While women play a very important role in American society, who are you going to
>call when the SHTF? Code Pink? The National Association of Ugly Women? I prefer
>the United States Marine Corp. But that is the point. When both sexes play their
>natural roles, things run smooth. When men try to be women or women try to be
>men, you get Europe. Or San Francisco. Or New York. And each is a fucking
>disaster zone.
>
>Ironically, any woman worth having doesn’t want a wussified metrosexual as a
>mate. Women still prefer a strong, gentle, hard-working, responsible man who
>will protect and provide for her and her children. Unless said women are
>hard-core liberals and/or lesbians. And then their problems have only begun.
>Liberals and/or lesbians are destined to a life of anger, loneliness and the
>ownership of numerous cats. Just like metrosexuals. And both will be miserable
>failures.
>
>America’s future is in deep Dukakis based upon what we see from young wussified
>males. As Tomi pointed out, most can’t change a tire or oil. Guns scare them.
>Bless their little worthless hearts. I’m not sure how this nightmare will change
>at this point.
>
>Wealth is a good thing but it is also dangerous if not controlled. Wealth allows
>our progeny to live comfortable easy lives without doing a thing to earn it. But
>it makes us soft. And that softness makes us vulnerable to America’s enemies.
>
>When ISIS or any other enemy decides to attack America, it will likely fall to
>us older American men to protect our society. Too many of our young men will be
>found cowering in safe rooms on university campuses. Moisturizing.
>
>
>
:Why My Liberal Neighbors Aren’t Speaking To Me Anymore

"I recently asked my neighbors’ little girl what she wanted to be when
she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day. Both of
her parents, are liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked
her, ‘If you were President what would be the first thing you would
do?’

She replied, ‘I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people.’

Her parents beamed with pride.

’Wow…what a worthy goal.’ I told her, ‘But you don’t have to wait
until you’re President to do that! You can come over to my house and
mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I’ll pay you $50.
Then I’ll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy
hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new
house.‘

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight
in the eye and asked, ’ Why doesn’t the homeless guy come over and do
the work, and you can just pay him the $50? ‘

I said, ‘Welcome to Conservatism.’

Her parents still aren’t speaking to me."


http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-enduring-millennial-liberalism/
The Myth of Enduring Millennial Liberalism
As the Obama generation matures, its overhyped Democratic tilt could
vanish entirely.
By Donald Devine • November 18, 2015


Millennials entered the popular imagination in 2008, when pollsters
found people born between 1980 and 2000 were overwhelmingly supportive
of Barack Obama for president. While the term had been used earlier,
the dramatic election results that year permanently established the
new designation. Millennials voted for Obama by an impressive
two-to-one margin, 66 to 32 percent, higher than any group other than
African-Americans. As a result they were labeled as ideological
left-liberals, a solid base for Democratic victories for as far as the
eye could see.

This view of millennials as left-leaning was reinforced by the more
recent gay marriage debate, where polls found millennials supporting
same sex marriage much more than other generational cohorts, at 70
percent, 10 percent higher than the next most supportive generation.
As millennials surged this year to become America’s largest
generation, this solidified the view of them as Democrats-forever,
especially by a media with liberal predilections.

But this characterization has always been a myth.

A Reason-Rupe Poll last year presented a more nuanced view. A majority
of millennials did tell pollsters they preferred a larger government
with more liberal services. But when asked about such a government if
it required higher taxes to pay for the services, 57 percent preferred
a smaller conservative government with fewer services. Almost
two-thirds not only thought government was usually wasteful but
preferred free markets to a regulating government. Yet, substantial
majorities supported government to provide for the poor, build public
housing, support college education, and guarantee living wages
(although the question did not mention the level of government
required to achieve such goals).

Two-thirds of millennials did self-identify as moderate or strong
liberals on social issues, generally were opposed to government
restrictions on lifestyle matters, supported same-sex marriage
legalization, and opposed government restrictions on abortion. Yet, as
on economic issues, there were qualifications. Only one-quarter of
millennials favored legalizing abortion “in all cases,” but most would
restrict them only under some circumstances. Even for same-sex
marriage legalization, only 25 percent said they felt so strongly
about the matter that they would vote against a candidate on those
grounds alone, as opposed to 20 percent who would not vote for a
candidate who favored such marriages.

Even politically, Pew found that millennials changed over time, being
rather evenly split between Democrats and Republicans in the 2000
election, zooming to 53 to 37 percent toward Democrats in 2004, and up
again to 62 to 30 percent for Obama in 2008; but they were back down
to 54 to 43 percent Democratic in 2014.

Way back in 2010, when the Pew Research Center first popularized the
category, millennials were asked open-ended questions about what were
the “most important things in their lives.” The five most
spontaneously-mentioned priorities were: becoming a good parent (52
percent), having a successful marriage (30 percent), helping others
(21 percent), owning a home (20 percent), and living a religious life
(15 percent); only then followed by having a high-paying career (15
percent) and having more free time (9 percent). Millennials reported
closer relationships with their families and were much more supportive
of a responsibility to care for elderly parents than earlier
generations. These do not seem to be wildly leftist views.

What is most obvious about millennials is that they are less trusting
of individuals and less comfortable with social institutions,
including government. A mere 19 percent told Pew in 2014 that most
people can be trusted compared to twice that level of trust among
seniors that year. Half called themselves independents rather than
identifying as Republican or Democrat, compared to only a third of
their elders. And while they were three times less attached to
institutional religion as seniors, still only 29 percent said they did
not belong to a religion at all.

Pew found fewer millennials considered themselves religious,
patriotic, or environmentalist than any earlier generation. Still, 86
percent said that they believed in God, although with less certainty
than older Americans, and only 11 percent said they did not believe at
all. All in all, the only convincing support for the liberal typecast
was that only 26 percent of millennials were married compared to 36
percent of Generation Xers and 48 percent of Boomers.

Even the marriage stereotype might be premature. A new forecast by
Recent Demographic Intelligence notes that when the oldest of the
millennials reached marriageable age in their twenties the economy was
just recovering from the Great Recession, a time when all groups were
delaying marriage or having children, married or not. Now, as the
millennials are nearing their 30s, 59 percent of children born to them
had married parents in 2015, which RDI forecasted will rise to 77
percent over the next decade. More are getting married, having
children, and buying homes. Pew estimated that while the marriage rate
of millennials will remain below earlier generations, in the end only
one quarter will remain unmarried.

Why do millennials seem to be settling down like earlier generations,
especially when a recent study in Germany by Rachel Margolis and Mikko
Myrskyla found that married people with children are sadder than those
without? Self-described “Gay Uncle” Brett Berk—who considered himself
happier because he and his partner never had children—questioned why
so many prefer having children anyway. He concluded that other studies
do show that longer-term life satisfaction is higher among those who
have children, because at the end they “feel they have accomplished
something meaningful.” They “feel supported in their old age by the
close community of relatives they’ve created.” Apparently millennials
came to the same conclusion.

In sum, millennials seemed perhaps a bit more liberal on social and
economic issues than the population but not much. A prediction: as
millennials mature they will become increasingly conservative and
indeed, with the younger millennial unemployment rate still double the
overall rate, will probably even vote Republican in the 2016
presidential election, undermining the myth entirely.

Donald Devine is senior scholar at the Fund for American Studies, the
author of America’s Way Back: Reclaiming Freedom, Tradition, and
Constitution, and was Ronald Reagan’s director of the U.S. Office of
Personnel Management during his first term and one of his campaign
strategists.

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Governor Swill

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

03/08/2016 1:46 PM

On Sun, 31 Jul [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Jul Leon wrote:
>>On 7/29/2016 Swingman wrote:
>>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>>> on the head, Bubba!
>>It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>>day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)

>Air conditioning was what allowed the South to grow (good or bad).
>Atlanta would still be a wide spot in the road without cheap AC. It
>didn't take off until the '60s.

Atlanta was a regional city even before the Civil War. But you're
right about cheap ac and the city taking off in the sixties.

When I first moved there, the tallest building in town was 22 floors
and there weren't a dozen of what we'd call "skyscrapers".

Today, it's skyline rivals all but the very largest of cities.

Swill
--
#imwithher

"[With Hillary Clinton] our international relations will not be reduced
to a business transaction." - Marine 4 star General John Allen (ret.)

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

25/07/2016 5:14 PM

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:40:34 -0700 (PDT)
Bob Villa <[email protected]> wrote:

> You're probably seen this: https://youtu.be/T5WO9nulOXc

not able to see at the moment

what is it

let me guess nuclear powered lathe









EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

27/07/2016 8:27 AM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:33:19 -0400
John McGaw <[email protected]> wrote:

> Probably not although I did run across a circular saw mill in one of

it is mounted on a skid and has its own power

designed for mobility and early deployment

sounds like seabee equipment






Jj

Jack

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

28/07/2016 9:06 AM

On 7/26/2016 5:55 PM, John McCoy wrote:

> Those old mills are scary to look at - not only the blade
> with absolutely no guards, but all the other belts and
> stuff totally unprotected, all the way back to the motor.

Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before diving
boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from playgrounds,
horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.

Millennials, raised in the home on digital games by hand wringing
mothers, are finding Pokemon too dangerous as the pantywaists are forced
to actually walk around loose, walking into cars and what-not.

They should not be allowed near power tools, particularly anything sharp
that is not 110% safe with every guard known to man, wearing chain-link
suits of armor, gas masks for dust, giant helmets with bullet proof face
masks and built in ear muffs, and the tools should instantly slam to a
stop if they even think about putting a pinky in danger.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

k

in reply to Jack on 28/07/2016 9:06 AM

03/08/2016 9:22 PM

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 14:11:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 8/3/2016 1:43 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>
>
>> Women make less money than men. That's a fact that conservatives
>> generally don't want to see change.
>
>That depends on how you do the numbers. in the past, employers did pay
>women less for the same job, perhaps a few do. Most have come to the
>21st century either because the are enlightened or fear of government
>regulation. Most businesses now pay the same wage for a man and woman
>working side by side doing the same job.

That certainly depends on the job and employer. Women (quite) often
make more than men, doing the same job. The "diversity" keeps the
government off their case (similar to what you said, but backwards).

>Why the difference? If you randomly take 10, 100, or 1000 men and the
>same number of women, the man's wage will come out higher. The reason
>is obvious if you look. Engineers. miners, doctors positions pay more
>than bank tellers, nurses, and secretaries. More men still tend to go
>to the first three professions while women tend to go to the last three.
> As long as you use those statistics and women make the same choices,
>they as a group will earn less.

Men tend to have more experience, as well. Women take more time off
for families. The original proposition that somehow women are
discriminated against, so make less than men, is a lie.

GS

Governor Swill

in reply to Jack on 28/07/2016 9:06 AM

06/08/2016 3:23 PM

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 23:07:14 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 23:29:32 -0400, Governor Swill
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 21:54:36 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:46:47 -0400, Governor Swill
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 31 Jul [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>On Fri, 29 Jul Leon wrote:
>>>>>>On 7/29/2016 Swingman wrote:
>>>>>>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>>>>>>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>>>>>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>>>>>>> on the head, Bubba!
>>>>>>It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>>>>>>day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)
>>>>
>>>>>Air conditioning was what allowed the South to grow (good or bad).
>>>>>Atlanta would still be a wide spot in the road without cheap AC. It
>>>>>didn't take off until the '60s.
>>>>
>>>>Atlanta was a regional city even before the Civil War. But you're
>>>>right about cheap ac and the city taking off in the sixties.
>>>
>>>Sure, I was being a "tad" hyperbolic. The growth has been amazing,
>>>though.
>>>
>>>Metro population:
>>>1950 - 1960 - 1970 - 1980 - 1990 - 2000 - 2010
>>>1.0M 1.3M 1.8M 2.2M 3.0M 4.1M 5.3M
>>> 30% 38% 22% 44% 37% 29%
>>>
>>>>When I first moved there, the tallest building in town was 22 floors
>>>>and there weren't a dozen of what we'd call "skyscrapers".
>>>
>>>I first moved here in '11 (three years earlier we moved 70mi down the
>>>road)
>>
>>I first moved there back in 1969 when the Hyatt's "flying saucer" was
>>a local landmark. Now it's completely obscured by taller structures.
>>
>>>>Today, it's skyline rivals all but the very largest of cities.
>>>
>>>It's not all in one place, making it look smaller than it is.
>>
>>Depends on your point of view. The 'scrapers are spread in clumps
>>northward from Five Points along the Peachtree ridge, so a view from
>>the east or west makes it look bigger. The majority of the tallest
>>ones have addresses on Peachtree Street.
>
>But *everything* in Georgia is named "Peachtree" something. I work in
>Peachtree City (where there are tons of cherry trees, pear trees, and
>golf carts but no peach trees).
>
>>Then there's the growing Buckhead cluster along Peachtree Rd and the
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ see?

Lol! "Peachtree Battle Avenue"

The local joke is that when Sherman took Atlanta, he should have
trimmed the peach trees. :)

>>Marietta cluster at 285 and 75 in the nw corner.
>
>Buckhead and Marietta were what I was referring to.

Swill
--
The only time NATO has ever invoked Article 5 and rushed to
the aid of a NATO ally in response to an attack was on September 11,
2001. On that day, monsters murdered 2,977 people in New York
City; Washington, DC; and Shanksville, PA.

Almost 3,000 Americans were murdered by monsters and our NATO
allies for the first time in the history of the NATO Alliance
rose as one and defended American airspace and American interests
around the entire freaking world while we wrestled with what had happened.

Donald Trump wants to turn NATO into a damn shakedown scheme and
you people are cheering him on.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
You should be ashamed of the fact that your cult leader who claims
to have been personally affected by 9/11 does not even know our NATO allies
protected his ass that day.
You should be ashamed that he wants to turn one of the strongest military
alliances in the history of the world into a racket where
protection is bought.
You should be ashamed that you are not ashamed. -- Eric Erickson

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

28/07/2016 9:58 AM

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:06:31 -0400
Jack <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
> sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before
> diving boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from
> playgrounds, horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.

haha this is good

damn are they really replacing horseshoe pits

first thing i did when i got my skilsaw so many years ago was to jam
a sixteen penny nail to keep that guard out of the way

it is an interesting trajectory that humanity is on right now
with interesting used in the same way as that old saying
may you live in interesting times

should also mention stick shift cars
most kids at driving age will not and or cannot drive a stick


> Millennials, raised in the home on digital games by hand wringing
> mothers, are finding Pokemon too dangerous as the pantywaists are
> forced to actually walk around loose, walking into cars and what-not.

society and culture now is very risk averse
constant fear drummed in all the time

> They should not be allowed near power tools, particularly anything
> sharp that is not 110% safe with every guard known to man, wearing
> chain-link suits of armor, gas masks for dust, giant helmets with
> bullet proof face masks and built in ear muffs, and the tools should
> instantly slam to a stop if they even think about putting a pinky in
> danger.

yes they will have to wear a brain machine interface and if they even
think of putting their hand near the cutter it shuts off the machine
and gives them a 50000 volt reminder and deducts 5 dollars from their
account and transfers it to the health and safety department to improve
the tv programming to remove thoughts of using the equipment at all










WS

Woody Sawyer

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 5:47 AM

Jack <[email protected]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[email protected]...
>
>On 7/26/2016 5:55 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>
>> Those old mills are scary to look at - not only the blade
>> with absolutely no guards, but all the other belts and
>> stuff totally unprotected, all the way back to the motor.
>
>Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
>sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before diving
>boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from playgrounds,
>horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.
>
>Millennials, raised in the home on digital games by hand wringing
>mothers, are finding Pokemon too dangerous as the pantywaists are forced
>to actually walk around loose, walking into cars and what-not.
>
>They should not be allowed near power tools, particularly anything sharp
>that is not 110% safe with every guard known to man, wearing chain-link
>suits of armor, gas masks for dust, giant helmets with bullet proof face
>masks and built in ear muffs, and the tools should instantly slam to a
>stop if they even think about putting a pinky in danger.

The wussy force is strong with the American male these days. College boys are
pitching little hissy fits and demanding ‘safe rooms’ because they happened to
pass by a ‘Vote For Donald Trump’ sign. Oh, the poor little useless wussies!
Hard to believe 70 years ago, their great-grandfathers were eating machine gun
fire on the beaches of Normandy and spitting out lead at the same age.

I suppose the great wealth of America over the past 30 years has allowed males
the poisonous privilege of not having to work or sacrifice. It made them selfish
and lazy since nearly every single thing they enjoy has been given to them by
parents or government with little or no expectation in return. Worse yet, not
having to work to buy their own sports car gave American boys time to think. As
we have seen from the youthful supporters of Bernie Sanders, young people with
time on their hands to think is a dangerous thing.

Young people, as a general rule, are idiots. It’s not their fault. Growing up
under the total protection and financial support of Mom and Dad does not prepare
young people for the real world. Experience is a valuable thing and kids of 19
have no fucking idea of how the real world works. But don’t tell them that. They
know everything. They’ll tell you as they scream in your face that Bernie
Sanders is the answer. If you destroy their pitiful arguments of socialist
utopia, they instantly require a safe room and tissues. This is the spoiled,
stupid youth of America.

Tomi Lahren has noticed that young men her age are not men at all, but merely
useless boys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwwBHuaW4J4

I’m not sure where this metrosexual lumberjack beard thing started. Probably
Nueva Jork or Mexifornia. Places full of sissified males who read GQ Magazine to
learn how to be what they think are men. Like I have said on several occasions,
if you read a men's fashion magazine to learn about being a man, you’re doing it
all wrong, junior.

It seems that every time the filly and I go out to eat at a restaurant these
days, our waiter looks like a gay Paul Bunyan. Instead of carrying an axe, they
carry a moisturizing kit. And we can imagine the only ‘wood’ they are familiar
with... and it ain’t found in the forest!

These are the types of wussified males Tomi speaks of in her video post. Their
grandfathers took apart, cleaned and reassembled 1911 .45 ACP’s in the dark.
Today, wussified metrosexuals moisturize and take lavender scented bubble baths
in the dark.

While savage Muslims are teaching their children to decapitate their enemies,
our boys are learning to be offended. They have no idea of the true cost of
freedom and what is required to retain it. We need to slap the shit out of our
boys so they will wake up and be able to kick the asses of Muslim boys when the
time comes.

I suppose we have arrived at this embarrassing moment where too many American
males are really American women because we allowed liberals and political
correctness to infect our culture. White males are told from an early age by
society that they are responsible for everything wrong in the world. They are
responsible for the malleable actions of their forefathers but receive zero
credit for the good. They are told white males are responsible for slavery but
never receive thanks for the fact that white men ended slavery. Any success they
achieve is due to white privilege and not through hard work and sacrifice.

So males are taught that they must sacrifice their real desires and instincts as
men to atone for the sins of their forefathers centuries ago. Garrison Keillor
wrote of this in The Book of Guys:

"Guys are in trouble these days. Years ago, manhood was an opportunity for
achievement and now it’s just a problem to be overcome. Guys who once might have
painted the Sistine Chapel ceiling are now just trying to be Mr. O.K. All-Rite,
the man who can bake a cherry pie, be passionate in a skillful way, and yet also
lift them bales and tote that barge."

Exactly! Men in America are blamed for everything less than perfect in the world
but receive no credit for the great things we provide. And the results are
telling. Our boys often become wussified and poisoned with political correctness
sacrificing themselves upon the altar of liberalism and feminism.

While women play a very important role in American society, who are you going to
call when the SHTF? Code Pink? The National Association of Ugly Women? I prefer
the United States Marine Corp. But that is the point. When both sexes play their
natural roles, things run smooth. When men try to be women or women try to be
men, you get Europe. Or San Francisco. Or New York. And each is a fucking
disaster zone.

Ironically, any woman worth having doesn’t want a wussified metrosexual as a
mate. Women still prefer a strong, gentle, hard-working, responsible man who
will protect and provide for her and her children. Unless said women are
hard-core liberals and/or lesbians. And then their problems have only begun.
Liberals and/or lesbians are destined to a life of anger, loneliness and the
ownership of numerous cats. Just like metrosexuals. And both will be miserable
failures.

America’s future is in deep Dukakis based upon what we see from young wussified
males. As Tomi pointed out, most can’t change a tire or oil. Guns scare them.
Bless their little worthless hearts. I’m not sure how this nightmare will change
at this point.

Wealth is a good thing but it is also dangerous if not controlled. Wealth allows
our progeny to live comfortable easy lives without doing a thing to earn it. But
it makes us soft. And that softness makes us vulnerable to America’s enemies.

When ISIS or any other enemy decides to attack America, it will likely fall to
us older American men to protect our society. Too many of our young men will be
found cowering in safe rooms on university campuses. Moisturizing.


k

in reply to Woody Sawyer on 29/07/2016 5:47 AM

06/08/2016 5:47 PM

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 11:06:03 -0500, Sam E
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 08/05/2016 10:07 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> But *everything* in Georgia is named "Peachtree" something. I work in
>> Peachtree City (where there are tons of cherry trees, pear trees, and
>> golf carts but no peach trees).
>
>I used to live on Sycamore Street, where there were a lot of oak trees
>but no sycamore trees. There were plenty of sycamore trees a block away,
>on Mulberry Street.

But no mulberry trees, one assumes. ;-)

>BTW, the place I used to live is now a parking lot.

They took all the trees
And put them in a tree museum?

DK

Destiny Kemp

in reply to Woody Sawyer on 29/07/2016 5:47 AM

06/08/2016 6:44 PM

replying to Woody Sawyer, Destiny Kemp wrote:
I agree with this poast.

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Butch McClure

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 12:55 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 05:47:03 -0500, Woody Sawyer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Jack <[email protected]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
>[email protected]...
>>
>>On 7/26/2016 5:55 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>>
>>> Those old mills are scary to look at - not only the blade
>>> with absolutely no guards, but all the other belts and
>>> stuff totally unprotected, all the way back to the motor.
>>
>>Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
>>sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before diving
>>boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from playgrounds,
>>horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.
>>
>>Millennials, raised in the home on digital games by hand wringing
>>mothers, are finding Pokemon too dangerous as the pantywaists are forced
>>to actually walk around loose, walking into cars and what-not.
>>
>>They should not be allowed near power tools, particularly anything sharp
>>that is not 110% safe with every guard known to man, wearing chain-link
>>suits of armor, gas masks for dust, giant helmets with bullet proof face
>>masks and built in ear muffs, and the tools should instantly slam to a
>>stop if they even think about putting a pinky in danger.
>
>The wussy force is strong with the American male these days. College boys are
>pitching little hissy fits and demanding ?safe rooms? because they happened to
>pass by a ?Vote For Donald Trump? sign. Oh, the poor little useless wussies!
>Hard to believe 70 years ago, their great-grandfathers were eating machine gun
>fire on the beaches of Normandy and spitting out lead at the same age.
>
>I suppose the great wealth of America over the past 30 years has allowed males
>the poisonous privilege of not having to work or sacrifice. It made them selfish
>and lazy since nearly every single thing they enjoy has been given to them by
>parents or government with little or no expectation in return. Worse yet, not
>having to work to buy their own sports car gave American boys time to think. As
>we have seen from the youthful supporters of Bernie Sanders, young people with
>time on their hands to think is a dangerous thing.
>
>Young people, as a general rule, are idiots. It?s not their fault. Growing up
>under the total protection and financial support of Mom and Dad does not prepare
>young people for the real world. Experience is a valuable thing and kids of 19
>have no fucking idea of how the real world works. But don?t tell them that. They
>know everything. They?ll tell you as they scream in your face that Bernie
>Sanders is the answer. If you destroy their pitiful arguments of socialist
>utopia, they instantly require a safe room and tissues. This is the spoiled,
>stupid youth of America.
>
>Tomi Lahren has noticed that young men her age are not men at all, but merely
>useless boys:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwwBHuaW4J4
>
>I?m not sure where this metrosexual lumberjack beard thing started. Probably
>Nueva Jork or Mexifornia. Places full of sissified males who read GQ Magazine to
>learn how to be what they think are men. Like I have said on several occasions,
>if you read a men's fashion magazine to learn about being a man, you?re doing it
>all wrong, junior.
>
>It seems that every time the filly and I go out to eat at a restaurant these
>days, our waiter looks like a gay Paul Bunyan. Instead of carrying an axe, they
>carry a moisturizing kit. And we can imagine the only ?wood? they are familiar
>with... and it ain?t found in the forest!
>
>These are the types of wussified males Tomi speaks of in her video post. Their
>grandfathers took apart, cleaned and reassembled 1911 .45 ACP?s in the dark.
>Today, wussified metrosexuals moisturize and take lavender scented bubble baths
>in the dark.
>
>While savage Muslims are teaching their children to decapitate their enemies,
>our boys are learning to be offended. They have no idea of the true cost of
>freedom and what is required to retain it. We need to slap the shit out of our
>boys so they will wake up and be able to kick the asses of Muslim boys when the
>time comes.
>
>I suppose we have arrived at this embarrassing moment where too many American
>males are really American women because we allowed liberals and political
>correctness to infect our culture. White males are told from an early age by
>society that they are responsible for everything wrong in the world. They are
>responsible for the malleable actions of their forefathers but receive zero
>credit for the good. They are told white males are responsible for slavery but
>never receive thanks for the fact that white men ended slavery. Any success they
>achieve is due to white privilege and not through hard work and sacrifice.
>
>So males are taught that they must sacrifice their real desires and instincts as
>men to atone for the sins of their forefathers centuries ago. Garrison Keillor
>wrote of this in The Book of Guys:
>
>"Guys are in trouble these days. Years ago, manhood was an opportunity for
>achievement and now it?s just a problem to be overcome. Guys who once might have
>painted the Sistine Chapel ceiling are now just trying to be Mr. O.K. All-Rite,
>the man who can bake a cherry pie, be passionate in a skillful way, and yet also
>lift them bales and tote that barge."
>
>Exactly! Men in America are blamed for everything less than perfect in the world
>but receive no credit for the great things we provide. And the results are
>telling. Our boys often become wussified and poisoned with political correctness
>sacrificing themselves upon the altar of liberalism and feminism.
>
>While women play a very important role in American society, who are you going to
>call when the SHTF? Code Pink? The National Association of Ugly Women? I prefer
>the United States Marine Corp. But that is the point. When both sexes play their
>natural roles, things run smooth. When men try to be women or women try to be
>men, you get Europe. Or San Francisco. Or New York. And each is a fucking
>disaster zone.
>
>Ironically, any woman worth having doesn?t want a wussified metrosexual as a
>mate. Women still prefer a strong, gentle, hard-working, responsible man who
>will protect and provide for her and her children. Unless said women are
>hard-core liberals and/or lesbians. And then their problems have only begun.
>Liberals and/or lesbians are destined to a life of anger, loneliness and the
>ownership of numerous cats. Just like metrosexuals. And both will be miserable
>failures.
>
>America?s future is in deep Dukakis based upon what we see from young wussified
>males. As Tomi pointed out, most can?t change a tire or oil. Guns scare them.
>Bless their little worthless hearts. I?m not sure how this nightmare will change
>at this point.
>
>Wealth is a good thing but it is also dangerous if not controlled. Wealth allows
>our progeny to live comfortable easy lives without doing a thing to earn it. But
>it makes us soft. And that softness makes us vulnerable to America?s enemies.
>
>When ISIS or any other enemy decides to attack America, it will likely fall to
>us older American men to protect our society. Too many of our young men will be
>found cowering in safe rooms on university campuses. Moisturizing.

Is it just me or have we become a nation of pussies? And where was
I when this cosmic shift took place? Let me explain "cosmic shift"
through example. When I was a baby we did not have a car seat, no
one did. When I got older I would sit in the front seat without a
seatbelt, everyone did. I did not own or wear a bicycle helmet as
a kid - I still don't. In any event, somewhere along the line a
cosmic shift took place where only lunatics would put a baby in a
car without a car seat or drive without seatbelts. The same sort
of cosmic shift is nearly completed with bicycle helmets. It's a
strange sort of phenomenon that sometimes makes sense but at other
times it doesn't.

Another cosmic shift has taken place in America but this one is
repugnant in all ways. I'm talking about the pussification of
American men. The seat belts and the bike helmets are all part of
this and the cosmic shift really accelerated after 9-11. Fear
began to trump sex on Madison Avenue. The metrosexual has become
the symbol of American masculinity. Hugh Grant has replaced Cary
Grant as a Hollywood icon of masculinity. I was at a party
recently and some hag was blathering on about how hot David
Schwimmer is. He's the guy that was on Friends always blubbering
on about his feelings or something. Can you imagine this guy
playing along side of John Wayne in the Sands of Iwo Jima?

I was really struck by this pussification this summer at my
son's t-ball game. It was warm and sunny but nothing unusual. A
mother came out of the stands and asked me, the coach, if I had
sun screen and water for the kids. I just sort of looked at her in
a mystified state. I said we have hats and a bubbler behind the
back stop. T-ball is not really known for making kids sweat much
at all and I figured sun tan lotion is for the beach. I'm not
opposed to a kid running over to the bubbler for a drink. She then
proceeded to spray sun screen on all 15 kids and practically
forced them to gulp some bottled water. Parents in the stands
literally cheered her for her safety first approach.

I just sort of shrugged it off but later I heard one boy comment
to Mrs. Worrywart's kid, "Why was your mom spraying us with that
stuff. You're mom's stupid." A few other kids chimed in as well
and Mrs. Worrywart's son just sort of sat there in a state of
slumped resignation. It pretty much ended at that but I was just a
little inspired to know that masculinity is still inherent in
boys. Its society and people like Mrs. Worrywart that beat it out
of them.

I have been blessed with three sons and counting. It's my mission
in life to see that they don't become metrosexuals. My wife can
harp on them about washing their hands and not farting at the
dinner table but I'm in charge of what they do out of the house.
They're boy's, boys complete with dirty faces and skinned knees.
They jump, wrestle and horse play at every opportunity. They are
not and will not be pussies.

Of course this will be a challenge in this day and age of hand
wringing and anti-anxiety medications. I was called into school
for one of my kids last year. A kid cut in front of him in line
and he corrected the punk. I didn't see the big deal but the
principle did so we took our licks. I still instructed him to
stand up for himself, not be punked by a punk and to choose his
battles wisely.

At this juncture many of you are proving my point with your
thoughts. Those of you that think I'm an awful father for not
telling my son to ignore the bully, to tell the teacher or run
away have bought into the pussification of American men lock,
stock and barrel.

Just this past 4th of July weekend some punks were blowing of
fireworks in the park behind my house. I had no problem with this
until they started launching shit into my backyard. I marched over
there and gave them two choices. I guess that makes me pro-choice.
They had the choice to launch their shit at my house or away from
my house. The consequences of course would be different for each
choice. They chose to launch away from my house - the correct
choice. My neighbors chastised me for being so rash and
challenging the punks. "What if they would have had a gun?" My
response was that we would have had a gun fight. You see I'd
rather do something and take the chance than to have my sons see
me cower behind the curtains like half a fag.

There was a time in this country when most men would have acted
just like I did. When I was kid the adult men were all WWII vets
and those guys put up with no shit. Consequently we had little
crime in our neighborhood. A lot of fist fights but little crime.
In that exact same neighborhood we now have the opposite. No fist
fights but a shit load of bullshit crime and good men that do
nothing. They have all the excuses down about having kids, fearing
lawsuits and guns but all this is simply caving into cowardice.

Maybe I'm an anomaly but I was taught that it's my job as the man
of the house to put his balls on the line from time to time. This
means protecting my home and neighborhood. I don't have problem
with this and it comes quite natural but I learned this throughout
a childhood and adolescent of rough play and risk taking. I'm not
talking about foolishness here. I'm talking about bravery,
toughness and balls. These used to be cherished traits among men
and women admired these qualities in men as well. Nowadays we are
all confused about these things. Being a hard dude doesn't mean
you are misogynistic piece of shit that we see glorified in rap
videos. A real man has a big heart that he reserves for his family
and friends. For the assholes in the world he has his balls, big
ones.

We have a lot of social problems in our country these days and
everyone has their pet theory that explains the reasons for the
proliferation of these problems. Conservatives blame big
government and welfare. Liberals think we don't have enough big
government and welfare. It's Bush's fault! Blame it on Obama!
Bullshit. I blame it on men who have ceased to be men.

Behind ever battered woman, every knocked up teenage girl and
every punk firing off guns indiscriminately are millions of men
that won't do their jobs as fathers or simply as stand up guys
that won't abide by bullshit. Men have become pussified in America
but I won't have any part of it.


EH

Ed Huntress

in reply to Butch McClure on 29/07/2016 12:55 PM

04/08/2016 5:44 PM

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 14:00:45 -0700, Rudy Canoza <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 8/4/2016 12:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/4/2016 2:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 8/4/2016 11:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:38:09 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/3/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/1/2016 9:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>> Women are always more responsible, especially about
>>>>>>>> kids, than men.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you said generally rather than always, I might agree.
>>>>>>> But if what you wrote ("always") was true there would be
>>>>>>> fewer abortions,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Getting an abortion is not taking responsibility for a surprise or
>>>>>> unwanted pregnancy?
>>>>>
>>>>> "taking responsibility" would be not having an unwanted pregnancy in
>>>>> the
>>>>> first place.
>>>>
>>>> Which makes men equally liable.
>>>
>>> No, not equally. Men don't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to
>>> get pregnant, she can either abstain from sex or take contraceptive
>>> measures. The woman always bears the greater responsibility for an
>>> unwanted pregnancy.
>>>
>>> It is just mind-boggling that the out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth
>>> rates got sky-high in the 1970s and 1980s after contraception became
>>> widely and *cheaply* available, and after women became "empowered"
>>> [chortle] following the sexual "revolution". Simply inexcusable.
>>>
>>
>> The problem is not availability of contraception, it is attitude. Males
>> think it is macho to make babies,
>
>That's bullshit. Most unattached men having sex with women either don't
>think about a baby being conceived, or don't want it to happen but
>aren't willing to take the first step to prevent it. I think even in an
>age of many men thinking "that's *her* problem," they still would rather
>a baby not be conceived, because some women will come after them for money.

All of which is just another way of saying that men don't accept their
responsibilities in matters conception. They never have and maybe they
never will. None of your argument addresses whether or not they
should, only whether they do.

It's not a matter of appropriate "liability" or responsibility. It's a
matter of males' social underdevelopment of character and morals.
That's what you get from a historically patriarcal society.

--
Ed Huntress

WS

Woody Sawyer

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

29/07/2016 5:57 PM

Ed Huntress <[email protected]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[email protected]...
>
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:29:57 -0400, Tekkie® <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Ed Huntress posted for all of us...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Did you get rid of that gas?
>>>
>>
>>I heard the fart from here!
>
>That essay was written by a guy who watches too much television and
>spends too little time with the young people he's writing about.

How bout you and your fart sniffing Ladyboy friend tuck your tender little
manginas in a pair of these and keep right on pretending old Woody don't know
what he's writing about. ;)

http://nypost.com/2016/07/28/theyre-making-lingerie-for-dudes-now/

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8vvI


Jj

Jack

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 9:02 AM

On 7/28/2016 4:41 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:06:31 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 7/26/2016 5:55 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>>
>>> Those old mills are scary to look at - not only the blade
>>> with absolutely no guards, but all the other belts and
>>> stuff totally unprotected, all the way back to the motor.
>>
>> Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
>> sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before diving
>> boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from playgrounds,
>> horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.
>>
>> Millennials, raised in the home on digital games by hand wringing
>> mothers, are finding Pokemon too dangerous as the pantywaists are forced
>> to actually walk around loose, walking into cars and what-not.
>>
>> They should not be allowed near power tools, particularly anything sharp
>> that is not 110% safe with every guard known to man, wearing chain-link
>> suits of armor, gas masks for dust, giant helmets with bullet proof face
>> masks and built in ear muffs, and the tools should instantly slam to a
>> stop if they even think about putting a pinky in danger.
>
> And they should definitely stay off your lawn, right Jack.

I don't know what you mean, or, what is the relationship to what I said,
and "they" coming into my yard?

Anyone is allowed on my lawn as long as they come in peace. If not,
well, they enter at their own risk.

In my house... not unless invited.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

Jj

Jack

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 9:24 AM

On 7/29/2016 3:24 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:29:57 -0400, Tekkie® <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Ed Huntress posted for all of us...
>>
>>> Did you get rid of that gas?
>>>
>> I heard the fart from here!
>
> That essay was written by a guy who watches too much television and
> spends too little time with the young people he's writing about.
>
This reply was written by a guy that spends too much time teaching our
boys how to apply moisturizer and getting stupid warning labels stuck on
on everything. Slides, swings, diving boards, horseshoe pits and every
other risky activity removed from our life. They think scores
traumatize losers, bullies are to be castrated instead of punched in the
mouth, and it's too dangerous for a kid to walk across the street to
school, and needs bus service to his door.

He might be right about watching TV to see what our kids are doing,
because the kids rarely go outside today. Playgrounds are empty, and
until Pokemon came out they were nowhere to be found. Now a few can be
seen walking around like zombies, staring into their cells, walking into
trees, traffic and other highly dangerous objects.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

Jj

Jack

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 9:55 AM

On 7/29/2016 6:47 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 7/29/2016 10:45 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>>
>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>
>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>> on the head, Bubba!
>>
> It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
> day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)

It all started when wall to wall carpeting was invented. The wife wanted
it, they couldn't afford it on the guys income, so the wife had to go to
work to afford wall to wall carpet. Next, she screwed her boss, got
divorced, raised the youngsters unsupervised, and with no father figure
anywhere to be found.

This destroyed the classic family where the wife nurtures the kids by
day, and the father teaches the boys how to be a man, and administers
discipline by night. The result is few men exist, but they all know how
to cook and apply moisturizer, but change oil replace a light switch, no
way. Shop class is replaced with home ec, laws are passed to remove all
risk from all activities, personal responsibility is eliminated as much
as possible, and table saws shriek to a stop if you look at them crooked.

Soon people will be turned into to just a fat head in a jar, willing
everything to happen at a safe distance, completely protected from... Life.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

Jj

Jack

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 10:11 AM

On 7/29/2016 8:57 PM, Woody Sawyer wrote:

> How bout you and your fart sniffing Ladyboy friend tuck your tender little
> manginas in a pair of these and keep right on pretending old Woody don't know
> what he's writing about. ;)
>
> http://nypost.com/2016/07/28/theyre-making-lingerie-for-dudes-now/

I think these might be useful if a bleeding heart wants an easy route
into the Marines CorPse and all those luscious men...

--
Jack
Got Change, And the Change SUCKS!
http://jbstein.com

Jj

Jack

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 10:59 AM

On 7/29/2016 9:46 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:

> Who do you think you are, Melania Trump? You didn't write anything.
> That stupid "essay" is all over the Web:

> http://awdude.com/2016/03/is-manliness-doomed-in-america-the-wussification-of-males/

Doesn't matter who wrote it, now does it?

The follow up by the Butch guy was also all over the web. So what?

Both are well written essays on what's been going on for years now.
Attempting to re-direct the issue to *who* said it rather than *what*
was said is blatantly lame, and a sure sign that you might disagree but
have no clue why. For all you know woody sawyer could have written it
before it went all over the web, or hired someone to put his thoughts
into words. Makes zero difference.

BTW, professional politicians ALL hire speech writers, are you so lame
that you actually think Melania Trump wrote her own speech? She
delivered the speech, and did a fine job for a non professional, and
both sounded and looked good doing it. The fact Elizabeth Dole and
Moochel's speech writers used a similar sentence in their speeches in
the past means zip, nada nothing.
--
Jack
Never miss a good chance to shut up.
http://jbstein.com

MM

Mike Marlow

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 4:39 PM

Governor Swill wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul Butch McClure wrote:
>> Is it just me or have we become a nation of pussies?
>
> It's not just you. The whole country has gone soft, especially
> conservatives shaking in their boots for fear some Muslim terrorist is
> going to invade their home and kill them in their sleep.
>
> Swill
>

Why don't you assholes take this stuff to a more appropriate newsgroup?
Is that too complicated a concept for you?

--
-Mike-
[email protected]

Jj

Jack

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

01/08/2016 10:20 AM

On 7/25/2016 7:40 PM, Bob Villa wrote:
> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 5:03:49 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> wonder if anyone makes these any more
>>
>> https://archive.org/stream/TM5-4016-nsia
>>
>>
>> guess the seabees used these
>
> You're probably seen this: https://youtu.be/T5WO9nulOXc

Exactly the right tool to make this patio:

http://tinyurl.com/h55h35v

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/82/60/31/8260319ba69acbe4e101f85124b2efeb.jpg



--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

GS

Governor Swill

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 2:27 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul Leon wrote:
>On 7/29/2016 10:45 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>> on the head, Bubba!

>It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)

Humorous, yes. But also true.

Swill
--
#imwithher

"With Hillary Clinton, our international relations will not be reduced
to a business transaction." - Marine 4 star General John Allen (ret.)

k

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

28/07/2016 9:05 PM

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:58:13 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:06:31 -0400
>Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like my table saw. Only "guard" is the operator using common
>> sense. This equipment should only be used by men raised before
>> diving boards were removed from public pools, swings removed from
>> playgrounds, horseshoe pits replaced with Corn hole crap and so on.
>
>haha this is good
>
>damn are they really replacing horseshoe pits

Sure, shoes are dangerous weapons in the hands of BLM.
>
>first thing i did when i got my skilsaw so many years ago was to jam
>a sixteen penny nail to keep that guard out of the way

You're kidding, right?
>
>it is an interesting trajectory that humanity is on right now
>with interesting used in the same way as that old saying
>may you live in interesting times

It is interesting to see Darwin at work, daily. Seems you're leading
the parade.

>should also mention stick shift cars
>most kids at driving age will not and or cannot drive a stick

...and why should they? They're rare, now, and getting more rare
every year.
\

k

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 7:54 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:47:46 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 7/29/2016 10:45 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>>
>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>
>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>> on the head, Bubba!
>>
>
>
>It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)

Air conditioning was what allowed the South to grow (good or bad).
Atlanta would still be a wide spot in the road without cheap AC. It
didn't take off until the '60s.

JM

John McGaw

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

26/07/2016 4:33 PM

On 7/25/2016 6:00 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>
> wonder if anyone makes these any more
>
> https://archive.org/stream/TM5-4016-nsia
>
>
> guess the seabees used these
>
>
Probably not although I did run across a circular saw mill in one of the
hollers east of here that was powered by a Ford Model T engine in all its
glory. It even had the wide canvas belts what were engaged by a big lever.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 25/07/2016 3:00 PM

31/07/2016 10:20 AM

On 7/31/2016 8:55 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 7/29/2016 6:47 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 7/29/2016 10:45 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Don't normally re-post in entirety, nor cross post, BUT, IMNSFHO this
>>> deserves to be seen, taken to heart and disseminated far and wide.
>>>
>>> Sadly, it might be too late for the country, but you hit the fark'n nail
>>> on the head, Bubba!
>>>
>> It all started when we started living in air conditioned comfort every
>> day instead of when company was expected. That and color TV. ;~)
>
> It all started when wall to wall carpeting was invented. The wife wanted
> it, they couldn't afford it on the guys income, so the wife had to go to
> work to afford wall to wall carpet. Next, she screwed her boss, got
> divorced, raised the youngsters unsupervised, and with no father figure
> anywhere to be found.

I have to agree. I have often commented that it was when the neighbors
tried to out do the Jones.


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