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"bdeditch"

05/05/2006 11:29 AM

what are the best screws for Melamine Board?

What are the best screws to use with Melamine Board, it seems that
woodscrews strip out very quickly.


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"MJ"

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

05/05/2006 5:33 PM

Norm uses a special stepdrill and screws. I think McFeely's sells them.
He's built several things with PB and this setup.

MJ Wallace

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in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

06/05/2006 6:40 PM

I'm no pro at this, but I did use MB to make an L-shaped computer desk
and support units w/shelving for my computer room last fall (it's still
hangin' together). I had good luck using dadoes combined with those
course deck screws you can get at Home Depot. Pre-drill the holes, of
course, and be gentle when you drive the screws, don't run them in
hard. (I faced the support units with white vinyl, but faced the table
top with red-oak banding with an application of tung oil. It turned out
purtee good, if I do say so myself.)

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"bdeditch"

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

06/05/2006 10:54 PM

Well this I what I am doing as well. I am building Kitchen cabinets for
my Daughter. I perfer to use a nice cabinet grade Plywood. But since
she is paying for most of it, we went to the Melamine board route. I
have been counter sinker, but it just seems that I have to go about a
snails pace with the screw gun and be so darn careful when I get near
the end.

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

05/05/2006 1:03 PM

bdeditch wrote:
> What are the best screws to use with Melamine Board, it seems that
> woodscrews strip out very quickly.

There are special particleboard screws. They have very thin sharp
coarse threads that stick out more than normal from the shaft so that
they grip as much material as possible while causing minimal disturbance.

Chris

Bn

"BobS"

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

05/05/2006 6:42 PM

Drill hole, insert glue and a piece of dowel - cut flush. Pre-drill dowel
then when you put the screw in, it will have something better to grip. End
grain is not the best but it beats particle board.

Bob S.

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> What are the best screws to use with Melamine Board, it seems that
> woodscrews strip out very quickly.
>

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

05/05/2006 9:26 PM

bdeditch wrote:

> What are the best screws to use with Melamine Board, it seems that
> woodscrews strip out very quickly.

You can't get there from here with wood screws IMHO.

There are some options as follows:

1) Use coarse thread sheet metal screws rather than wood screws.

2) Drill an oversize hole(1/2"), then glue in a 1/2" dowel. Drill
pilot hole in dowel for screw.

3) Drill an oversize hole (1/2"), then fill with epoxy thickened with
micro-balloons. When cured, drill pilot hole for sheet metal screw.

Option 3 is by far the most complex; however, it is also the strongest.

Lew

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"dadiOH"

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

06/05/2006 11:32 AM

Robatoy wrote:

> IOW... don't reject PB as a legit material, just because you don't
> understand its limitations.

I don't. I use it for all sorts of stuff. I even use screws in it...but
mostly to hold it together while the glue dries :)


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klaatu

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

05/05/2006 5:14 PM

On 5 May 2006 11:29:22 -0700, "bdeditch" <[email protected]> wrote:

>What are the best screws to use with Melamine Board, it seems that
>woodscrews strip out very quickly.
I use these.
http://wwhardware.com/catalog.cfm/ProductID/T0077

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

05/05/2006 5:29 PM

In article <fXM6g.969$OF6.824@trnddc06>,
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:

> It (or any particle board) doesn't hold screws well.

Compared to a pre-drilled and threaded solid block of maple?...I guess
you're right.

But... I have driven ( and had driven for me) literally tens of
thousands of low-root PB nub-head screws and seldom did I experience a
failure in any of the assemblies.

What it comes down to, is to make sure that there is sufficient particle
board to screw into and that the proper pre-drill/screw combo is used.
If you screw a # 10 wood screw at 1/2" from the edge of a piece of 5/8
PB...of course it is going to fail.

So much of this is common sense.

Is it wood?

No.


...but I have been in some pretty spectacular houses which were nothing
but concrete and steel. It's all what you do with the materials you
select.

IOW... don't reject PB as a legit material, just because you don't
understand its limitations.

Respectfully I remain,

r

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

05/05/2006 6:36 PM

bdeditch wrote:
> What are the best screws to use with Melamine Board, it seems that
> woodscrews strip out very quickly.

It (or any particle board) doesn't hold screws well.

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"Ron Magen"

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

05/05/2006 7:49 PM

a} 'Thru-Bolt' with flat washers whenever possible
b}Use use Stainless Steel or Brass 'Threaded Inserts' when you can't / won't
/ don't want to

Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

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> What are the best screws to use with Melamine Board, it seems that
> woodscrews strip out very quickly.
>

Js

Jesse

in reply to "bdeditch" on 05/05/2006 11:29 AM

06/05/2006 2:57 AM

On 5 May 2006 17:33:27 -0700, "MJ" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Norm uses a special stepdrill and screws. I think McFeely's sells them.
>He's built several things with PB and this setup.
>
>MJ Wallace


I use conformat screws, work well.
http://www.cabinetmart.com/69-6350C.html


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