I'm paying too much for walnut locally, and most of it sucks (sapwood
galore), anyway. Are there any mail order outfits you have dealt with
that YOU CAN TRUST TO SEND YOU ONLY GOOD WOOD? What's the max length
they can ship?
I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut. I'm going broke buying it.
And I'm not getting much of a break on 6/4 maple, except when the
counterman at the local store takes pity on me and changes the
classification of the wood so that I get a decent price.
I don't want to drive 80 miles round trip to go through a warehouse of
lumber, only to find that their stuff is no better than what I've been
putting up with locally.
Bottom line, who can you trust to buy from, sight unseen? Anyone?
Dave
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:17:33 -0500, Duane Bozarth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> BTW, I'm trying a new version of my mail reader in the groups. If you
>> see this, I guess it's working. My address is suppose to show up as
>> [email protected]
>
>Just out of curiousity, which are you using? I've been using an <old>
>NS version on a really old W95 box for 'net access, but it's about to
>die dead so I'm going to have to move to something newer...I just don't
>know what that's going to be, but it ain't gonna' be Outlook altho I'll
>probably end up going w/ a MS OS owing to the compatibility issue w/
>what few clients I'm still consulting for...
I'm using Agent 3.1. They have a 30 day trial period for the full
version and after 30 days it reverts to a version called Free Agent
that has some limitations but doesn't expire. You can experiment with
it and it will import messages from other readers if they will export
in the standard UNIX email message format.
The web site is www.forteinc.com
I honestly don't know how it compares to some other (non MS) readers
since I've been using some version of Agent since back in the days
when Internet service first became available here.
This version will allow you to use more than one server for mail and
or news and allows for different users or names for individual news
groups or email accounts. I was running two separate copies of the
earlier version to accomplish the same thing. The new version does
quite a bit more than I need for it to do but I'm starting to get the
hang of it.....I think. Just in case, I haven't removed one of the
old copies yet.
Mike O.
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm paying too much for walnut locally, and most of it sucks (sapwood
> galore), anyway. Are there any mail order outfits you have dealt with
> that YOU CAN TRUST TO SEND YOU ONLY GOOD WOOD? What's the max length
> they can ship?
>
> I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut. I'm going broke buying it.
> And I'm not getting much of a break on 6/4 maple, except when the
> counterman at the local store takes pity on me and changes the
> classification of the wood so that I get a decent price.
>
> I don't want to drive 80 miles round trip to go through a warehouse of
> lumber, only to find that their stuff is no better than what I've been
> putting up with locally.
>
> Bottom line, who can you trust to buy from, sight unseen? Anyone?
>
> Dave
Dave - I'm in Burbank and your deal really isn't that bad at 5.25 especially
if they let you pick through. I've occasionally bought stock online from
Wall Lumber and found it to be worth the effort, even with the shipping. I
generally buy the UPS 'bundle' - 20 bft/varying prices. Always have gotten
excellent quality wood. Being that you're up north - you might look for
mills in the Sacramento area - the shipping to you in San Jose would be
minimal and if you buy enough you can get a decent price.
HTH,
Vic
I know that there is a mill in Grass valley that carries a lot of local
hardwoods, but can't remember the name. There was an article on them in
Woodshop news a couple of years back. I think that there is a place in
Chico also. I would expect the valley to have more sources.There is a
Wood Finder web site that I used once to help me find some hickory. If
you want to spend some money, try Goby Walnut in Albany OR. He has
100,000 plus bf from about $5 to 'if you have to ask, you can't afford
it anyway'. I got some bookmatched 6/4 tight ripple 9 ft. long, all
heart for about $30 bf. I don't know what I am going to do with it, but
it will be expensive.
robo hippy
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:30:18 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut. I'm going broke buying it.
> I don't want to drive 80 miles round trip to go through a warehouse of
> lumber, only to find that their stuff is no better than what I've been
> putting up with locally.
> Bottom line, who can you trust to buy from, sight unseen? Anyone?
Where are you at, David? I've got some beautiful walnut, but of course
you don't know me from Adam (nor me, you). It was stacked & stickered
in the 1960s, stored well in a controlled environment until the owner,
then his widow, died. I bought it at auction ~6 years ago. If you're
anywhere near Milwaukee or Madison, Wisconsin, maybe you could take a
look at it. I've got maybe 300 board feet left, maybe more.
Dave Hinz
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:43:46 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>
>> Where are you at, David? I've got some beautiful walnut, but of course
>> you don't know me from Adam (nor me, you).
>> If you're
>> anywhere near Milwaukee or Madison, Wisconsin, maybe you could take a
>> look at it. I've got maybe 300 board feet left, maybe more.
> I'm in San Jose, Dave. You are located a BIT out of my driving range.
Ayup, just a bit...
>:) Aren't you going to use it?
Well, I am using it, but I've gone through maybe a dozen boards in the
last 5 years. And the stack doesn't seem to be shrinking much. There
are 5 or 6 boards in there, 12' long, 14" wide, one slice after another
from the same log. Would make a nice boardroom table...
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:59:00 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, I am using it, but I've gone through maybe a dozen boards in the
>> last 5 years. And the stack doesn't seem to be shrinking much. There
>> are 5 or 6 boards in there, 12' long, 14" wide, one slice after another
>> from the same log. Would make a nice boardroom table...
> Stop! I'm turning green. :)
Did I mention it's all heartwood, with beautiful figure, and colors from
brown through red to purple?
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:12:34 -0500, Australopithecus scobis <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:36:10 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote:
>
>> you don't know me from Adam (nor me, you). It was stacked & stickered
>> in the 1960s, stored well in a controlled environment until the owner,
>> then his widow, died. I bought it at auction ~6 years ago. If you're
>> anywhere near Milwaukee or Madison, Wisconsin, maybe you could take a
>> look at it. I've got maybe 300 board feet left, maybe more.
>
> you suck
>:)
OK, I need a ruling here. I did the obligatory gloat here at the time,
does any mention of it also require the "you suck"? I don't mind, but I
was wondering if we've established this yet.
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:04:18 -0500, Knothead <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>anywhere near Milwaukee or Madison, Wisconsin, maybe you could take a
>>>look at it. I've got maybe 300 board feet left, maybe more.
>
> Near Madison? I might be interested in some of it. Madison is about 32 NW of
> my shop and I'm up there everyday.
I'm right down the road from Jefferson / Johnson Creek. If you're 32
miles SE of Madison, you're probably 20 minutes frmo my place. Drop me
an email, my address is real. How much might you want?
Dave
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:23:07 -0500, D Steck <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:12:34 -0500, Australopithecus scobis
>> <[email protected]> >
>> OK, I need a ruling here. I did the obligatory gloat here at the time,
>> does any mention of it also require the "you suck"? I don't mind, but I
>> was wondering if we've established this yet.
>
>
> I believe the 'you suck' is improper if you already did a gloat on this. On
> this thread, it is improper. However, on your subsequent post where you
> discussed it was all heartwood and nice and pretty, that is a definite in
> your face "I'M GLOATING" situation. Most certainly not labeled with a gloat
> so in that case it is proper.
Ah. Of course.
> Had the poster responded 'you suck' to that
> comment, he is entitled to that as I believe you gloated just a little too
> much in that situation. Seeing that he did not respond to that post, then
> he is not entitled to the 'you suck' comment.
This is very confusing.
> I light of the secondary post that where you did go over the top...
> you suck
So mentioning that it's on top of a similar stack of cherry would be
another example of "you suck"-able posts then? I ask, er, merely out of
curiousity.
That said, what's a fair price for nice walnut, in the Midwest? Old
growth, no sapwood, no knots, rough sawn 45+ years ago 4/4 strong?
They're 10-12 foot lengths, random width. A local-ish woodworker is
interested in 40 or so bf, and we want to come up with a fair number.
Dave
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:23:17 -0500, Australopithecus scobis <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:23:07 -0500, D Steck wrote:
>
>> I believe the 'you suck' is improper if you already did a gloat on this.
>
> Oh, dear, a foe paw on my very first 'you suck.' Abject apologies and much
> grovelling. Really.
Couple more months it would have been 7 years, and the statute of
limitations would have been up. But, I think it can be forgiven to not
have memorized every post on the group for 6+ years.
> Hey Dave, how much you want for some? I'll drive over.
Drop me an email...
David wrote:
>
...
> I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut.
I doubt you'll do any better online, certainly not if you include
shipping. That doesn't sound too bad to me for walnut, local pickup in
CA.
...
Reading a followup re: sapwood in walnut--sapwood in walnut is not
considered a defect in any grading system. You will definitely pay a
tremendous premium if you specify all walnut heartwood (and you will
have a devil of a time getting anybody to supply it other than someone
such as Constantine's where you will probably pay $10/bf or more I
think).
I don't know your needs obviously as you gave no indication of what kind
of projects you make, but I find that for what I do (almost exclusively
furniture pieces or other cabinetry, not turning or small crafts) the
most cost-effective hardwood is 1C. I typically buy at least 300 bf at
a time simply to have sufficient stock on hand to select from for a
particular project. Only if I have a specific commission requiring
something truly outstanding/outrageous will I hand-select lumber.
Most retail hardwood vendors will allow you to hand select stock, but
they will, obviously, charge a premium for the privilege. Wholsesale
vendors, otoh, will only provide standardly graded material as they
receive it.
Obviously, the above is imo, my $0.02, ymmv, etc., etc., etc., ... :)
David wrote:
>
> Duane Bozarth wrote:
>
> > David wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> >>I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut.
> >
> >
> > I doubt you'll do any better online, certainly not if you include
> > shipping. That doesn't sound too bad to me for walnut, local pickup in
> > CA.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Reading a followup re: sapwood in walnut--sapwood in walnut is not
> > considered a defect in any grading system. You will definitely pay a
> > tremendous premium if you specify all walnut heartwood (and you will
> > have a devil of a time getting anybody to supply it other than someone
> > such as Constantine's where you will probably pay $10/bf or more I
> > think).
> >
> > I don't know your needs obviously as you gave no indication of what kind
> > of projects you make, but I find that for what I do (almost exclusively
> > furniture pieces or other cabinetry, not turning or small crafts) the
> > most cost-effective hardwood is 1C. I typically buy at least 300 bf at
> > a time simply to have sufficient stock on hand to select from for a
> > particular project. Only if I have a specific commission requiring
> > something truly outstanding/outrageous will I hand-select lumber.
> >
> > Most retail hardwood vendors will allow you to hand select stock, but
> > they will, obviously, charge a premium for the privilege. Wholsesale
> > vendors, otoh, will only provide standardly graded material as they
> > receive it.
> >
> > Obviously, the above is imo, my $0.02, ymmv, etc., etc., etc., ... :)
>
> Duane, in light of your experience I guess I should consider myself
> lucky that I'm able to handpick lumber at the two local places I
> frequent. They have both promised that in the next few weeks they
> should be getting some more walnut. Plan B is to wait until they
> receive their shipments, and go back down and see if my money will buy
> some nicer stuff than they currently have. I've been able to hand
> select some really nice stuff recently, but my last 2 trips to each of
> them were unfruitful.
>
> I need to learn patience, I guess... :)
>
> As for Southern Lumber, the good quality doesn't make up for the sky
> high prices so all I do is window shop there. <g>
>
I should probably have noted that I live in a rural area far removed
from any local timber and because of the former there is no local
distributor who carries any hardwood and so handpicking entails a trip
to the same place as the wholesaler so it only makes sense if I'm
driving 200 miles to Wichita to buy a significant quantity at the
time...there actually is a sizable amount of walnut specifically in SE
KS, but it's almost another 150 miles on past Wichita down there so I
rarely take the time. While in TN and VA, it was easy to have gotten
spoiled by all the small local mills one could choose from... :)
"Mike O." wrote:
>
...
> Duane, I'm in Wichita (actually Haysville) and we've been using a
> place in Burrton KS for hardwood and specialty trim. A lot of the
> builders here are having trim milled there but they supply just about
> any trim related products (except hardware) that we need including
> stock, in about any species we need. Since our builders pay the
> bills, I can't comment on their prices but they must be competitive.
> The place is Steve Lang's Hardwood Supply
> 115 N. Reno St. Box 7
> Burrton KS
> phone: 620-463-2663
>
> You might give them a try if it's not more out of your way. Burrton
> is between Hutch and Newton.
Thanks for the contact...I've saved it for future reference. I know
where Burrton is--we're in Liberal so it's maybe just a little farther
as it's farther north, but can run up 51 to Hutch from Pratt and be a
pretty straight shot. If I were that close I'd probably end up going to
Wichita anyway as have family there...
I'd been using a small family-owned millwork shop in Wichita for bigger
runs than I can do and been real pleased but they simply buy material on
a per job basis for specialty items like I've been having done for the
barn restoration which has been the main project for the last two
years...
"Mike O." wrote:
>
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:23:24 -0500, Duane Bozarth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I'd been using a small family-owned millwork shop in Wichita for bigger
> >runs than I can do and been real pleased but they simply buy material on
> >a per job basis for specialty items like I've been having done for the
> >barn restoration which has been the main project for the last two
> >years...
>
> Would it be Allen's Millwork?
No, I have been using Holtzen's--they're downtown.
"Mike O." wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:13:42 -0500, Duane Bozarth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Would it be Allen's Millwork?
> >
> >No, I have been using Holtzen's--they're downtown.
>
> We haven't dealt with Holtzen's for some time. Years ago we had a
> builder that used them quite a bit. Their millwork was always very
> good.
Yes, I have been <quite> pleased w/ everything they've done...and
wunnerful to deal w/ as well.
They just got a new 4-head moulder in last winter--my run of siding
about 4000 ft of Doug fir 3-1/4" T&G siding matching the old barn siding
was its initiation--we all stood around and watched and went
"ooh...!"... :)
[email protected] wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:24:09 -0500, Duane Bozarth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >They just got a new 4-head moulder in last winter--my run of siding
> >about 4000 ft of Doug fir 3-1/4" T&G siding matching the old barn siding
> >was its initiation--we all stood around and watched and went
> >"ooh...!"... :)
>
> Did they have to grind knives for it or did they have a match?
The cove was a standard profile (and I should recall the profile number
but can't offhand) so the existing knives were right. It was just that
we were unable to find anything other than the 5-1/4 width anywhere
already available and the barn was 3-1/4. I went the Doug fir to match
the original as well. We had to cheat just a little on the bottom edge
groove depth and some was hard to finish the full 3-1/4 out of the 1x4
stock, but I decided I didn't want to eat the cost of the 1x6 stock to
get the full dimension. That's what the reduction in size since the
'20s does to you on repro or restoration work. :(
I had some old salvaged 5-1/4 material from an old chicken coop we tore
down (something like 40 years ago now) still in the mow so in a couple
of places where I had a fairly large place to replace old siding on I
ripped it down to about 3-3/8 and used a couple of rows of it mixed in
w/ the other to gain back the lost height when I had more opening to
cover than I could "stretch" the new to fill in. When done and painted,
I can only pick out one place where I did that by inspection (although I
know where the others are, of course).
> BTW, I'm trying a new version of my mail reader in the groups. If you
> see this, I guess it's working. My address is suppose to show up as
> [email protected]
Just out of curiousity, which are you using? I've been using an <old>
NS version on a really old W95 box for 'net access, but it's about to
die dead so I'm going to have to move to something newer...I just don't
know what that's going to be, but it ain't gonna' be Outlook altho I'll
probably end up going w/ a MS OS owing to the compatibility issue w/
what few clients I'm still consulting for...
I just bought 20bd from the http://www.hardwoodstore.com/index.html
It was $99.00 which included shipping. I'll let you know when I get it in this
week.
David <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm paying too much for walnut locally, and most of it sucks (sapwood
>galore), anyway. Are there any mail order outfits you have dealt with
>that YOU CAN TRUST TO SEND YOU ONLY GOOD WOOD? What's the max length
>they can ship?
>
>I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut. I'm going broke buying it.
>And I'm not getting much of a break on 6/4 maple, except when the
>counterman at the local store takes pity on me and changes the
>classification of the wood so that I get a decent price.
>
>I don't want to drive 80 miles round trip to go through a warehouse of
>lumber, only to find that their stuff is no better than what I've been
>putting up with locally.
>
>Bottom line, who can you trust to buy from, sight unseen? Anyone?
>
>Dave
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:02:47 -0500, Duane Bozarth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I should probably have noted that I live in a rural area far removed
>from any local timber and because of the former there is no local
>distributor who carries any hardwood and so handpicking entails a trip
>to the same place as the wholesaler so it only makes sense if I'm
>driving 200 miles to Wichita to buy a significant quantity at the
>time...there actually is a sizable amount of walnut specifically in SE
>KS, but it's almost another 150 miles on past Wichita down there so I
>rarely take the time. While in TN and VA, it was easy to have gotten
>spoiled by all the small local mills one could choose from... :)
Duane, I'm in Wichita (actually Haysville) and we've been using a
place in Burrton KS for hardwood and specialty trim. A lot of the
builders here are having trim milled there but they supply just about
any trim related products (except hardware) that we need including
stock, in about any species we need. Since our builders pay the
bills, I can't comment on their prices but they must be competitive.
The place is Steve Lang's Hardwood Supply
115 N. Reno St. Box 7
Burrton KS
phone: 620-463-2663
You might give them a try if it's not more out of your way. Burrton
is between Hutch and Newton.
Mike O.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:24:09 -0500, Duane Bozarth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>They just got a new 4-head moulder in last winter--my run of siding
>about 4000 ft of Doug fir 3-1/4" T&G siding matching the old barn siding
>was its initiation--we all stood around and watched and went
>"ooh...!"... :)
Did they have to grind knives for it or did they have a match?
BTW, I'm trying a new version of my mail reader in the groups. If you
see this, I guess it's working. My address is suppose to show up as
[email protected]
Mike O.
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:23:24 -0500, Duane Bozarth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'd been using a small family-owned millwork shop in Wichita for bigger
>runs than I can do and been real pleased but they simply buy material on
>a per job basis for specialty items like I've been having done for the
>barn restoration which has been the main project for the last two
>years...
Would it be Allen's Millwork?
Mike O.
Dave Hinz wrote:
>
> Well, I am using it, but I've gone through maybe a dozen boards in the
> last 5 years. And the stack doesn't seem to be shrinking much. There
> are 5 or 6 boards in there, 12' long, 14" wide, one slice after another
> from the same log. Would make a nice boardroom table...
>
Stop! I'm turning green. :)
Dave
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:30:18 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut. I'm going broke buying it.
>
>
>>I don't want to drive 80 miles round trip to go through a warehouse of
>>lumber, only to find that their stuff is no better than what I've been
>>putting up with locally.
>
>
>>Bottom line, who can you trust to buy from, sight unseen? Anyone?
>
>
> Where are you at, David? I've got some beautiful walnut, but of course
> you don't know me from Adam (nor me, you). It was stacked & stickered
> in the 1960s, stored well in a controlled environment until the owner,
> then his widow, died. I bought it at auction ~6 years ago. If you're
> anywhere near Milwaukee or Madison, Wisconsin, maybe you could take a
> look at it. I've got maybe 300 board feet left, maybe more.
>
> Dave Hinz
I'm in San Jose, Dave. You are located a BIT out of my driving range.
:) Aren't you going to use it?
Dave
On 10 Oct 2005 20:20:40 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:12:34 -0500, Australopithecus scobis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:36:10 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote:
>>
>>> you don't know me from Adam (nor me, you). It was stacked & stickered
>>> in the 1960s, stored well in a controlled environment until the owner,
>>> then his widow, died. I bought it at auction ~6 years ago. If you're
>>> anywhere near Milwaukee or Madison, Wisconsin, maybe you could take a
>>> look at it. I've got maybe 300 board feet left, maybe more.
>>
>> you suck
>>:)
>
>OK, I need a ruling here. I did the obligatory gloat here at the time,
>does any mention of it also require the "you suck"? I don't mind, but I
>was wondering if we've established this yet.
rementions are fair game for resucks, but the suckage isn't mandatory.
don't get greedy.
Duane Bozarth wrote:
> David wrote:
>
> ...
>
>>I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut.
>
>
> I doubt you'll do any better online, certainly not if you include
> shipping. That doesn't sound too bad to me for walnut, local pickup in
> CA.
>
> ...
>
> Reading a followup re: sapwood in walnut--sapwood in walnut is not
> considered a defect in any grading system. You will definitely pay a
> tremendous premium if you specify all walnut heartwood (and you will
> have a devil of a time getting anybody to supply it other than someone
> such as Constantine's where you will probably pay $10/bf or more I
> think).
>
> I don't know your needs obviously as you gave no indication of what kind
> of projects you make, but I find that for what I do (almost exclusively
> furniture pieces or other cabinetry, not turning or small crafts) the
> most cost-effective hardwood is 1C. I typically buy at least 300 bf at
> a time simply to have sufficient stock on hand to select from for a
> particular project. Only if I have a specific commission requiring
> something truly outstanding/outrageous will I hand-select lumber.
>
> Most retail hardwood vendors will allow you to hand select stock, but
> they will, obviously, charge a premium for the privilege. Wholsesale
> vendors, otoh, will only provide standardly graded material as they
> receive it.
>
> Obviously, the above is imo, my $0.02, ymmv, etc., etc., etc., ... :)
Duane, in light of your experience I guess I should consider myself
lucky that I'm able to handpick lumber at the two local places I
frequent. They have both promised that in the next few weeks they
should be getting some more walnut. Plan B is to wait until they
receive their shipments, and go back down and see if my money will buy
some nicer stuff than they currently have. I've been able to hand
select some really nice stuff recently, but my last 2 trips to each of
them were unfruitful.
I need to learn patience, I guess... :)
As for Southern Lumber, the good quality doesn't make up for the sky
high prices so all I do is window shop there. <g>
Dave
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:13:42 -0500, Duane Bozarth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Would it be Allen's Millwork?
>
>No, I have been using Holtzen's--they're downtown.
We haven't dealt with Holtzen's for some time. Years ago we had a
builder that used them quite a bit. Their millwork was always very
good.
Mike O.
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:30:18 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:
Right now I have a bunch of walnut (see attached pic) that I could
sell for $4.00/bft with a minimum of 25 ft purchase. I am located in
central virginia. Contact me if interested witha valid return email
address.
>I'm paying too much for walnut locally, and most of it sucks (sapwood
>galore), anyway. Are there any mail order outfits you have dealt with
>that YOU CAN TRUST TO SEND YOU ONLY GOOD WOOD? What's the max length
>they can ship?
>
>I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut. I'm going broke buying it.
>And I'm not getting much of a break on 6/4 maple, except when the
>counterman at the local store takes pity on me and changes the
>classification of the wood so that I get a decent price.
>
>I don't want to drive 80 miles round trip to go through a warehouse of
>lumber, only to find that their stuff is no better than what I've been
>putting up with locally.
>
>Bottom line, who can you trust to buy from, sight unseen? Anyone?
>
>Dave
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:36:10 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote:
> you don't know me from Adam (nor me, you). It was stacked & stickered
> in the 1960s, stored well in a controlled environment until the owner,
> then his widow, died. I bought it at auction ~6 years ago. If you're
> anywhere near Milwaukee or Madison, Wisconsin, maybe you could take a
> look at it. I've got maybe 300 board feet left, maybe more.
you suck
:)
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:23:07 -0500, D Steck <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> So mentioning that it's on top of a similar stack of cherry would be
> another example of "you suck"-able posts then? I ask, er, merely out of
> curiousity.
>
Most certainly. Best not mention it.
> That said, what's a fair price for nice walnut, in the Midwest? Old
> growth, no sapwood, no knots, rough sawn 45+ years ago 4/4 strong?
> They're 10-12 foot lengths, random width. A local-ish woodworker is
> interested in 40 or so bf, and we want to come up with a fair number.
I bought some just recently and came to a price of $2.50 / bf. It was nice
walnut but not 45+ years old and the widest board was maybe 7". No sap wood
but had more knots than I would like. For what you've got (if it's pretty
straight), I'd ask the same if not a little more than S2S lumber. One local
yard in St. Louis adds 10% to the price for boards over 9" wide.
>
> Dave
>
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> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:12:34 -0500, Australopithecus scobis
> <[email protected]> >
> OK, I need a ruling here. I did the obligatory gloat here at the time,
> does any mention of it also require the "you suck"? I don't mind, but I
> was wondering if we've established this yet.
I believe the 'you suck' is improper if you already did a gloat on this. On
this thread, it is improper. However, on your subsequent post where you
discussed it was all heartwood and nice and pretty, that is a definite in
your face "I'M GLOATING" situation. Most certainly not labeled with a gloat
so in that case it is proper. Had the poster responded 'you suck' to that
comment, he is entitled to that as I believe you gloated just a little too
much in that situation. Seeing that he did not respond to that post, then
he is not entitled to the 'you suck' comment.
I light of the secondary post that where you did go over the top...
you suck
David wrote:
> I'm paying too much for walnut locally, and most of it sucks (sapwood
> galore), anyway. Are there any mail order outfits you have dealt with
> that YOU CAN TRUST TO SEND YOU ONLY GOOD WOOD? What's the max length
> they can ship?
No max length by truck. Other than the trailer length :) Most boards
are 7'-12', rarely longer or shorter.
As far as "good wood" goes, depends on what you order...select is better
than #1 common, etc. If you mean lack of sapwood, you'd have to specify
what you want when you talk to them.
I've never had a problem ordering from distant suppliers. Usually use
one in NC as I'm in Florida but have also used some in Wisconsin when I
wanted slow growth white oak.
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"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm paying too much for walnut locally, and most of it sucks (sapwood
> galore), anyway. Are there any mail order outfits you have dealt with
> that YOU CAN TRUST TO SEND YOU ONLY GOOD WOOD? What's the max length they
> can ship?
52' if it goes by truck. IIRC, UPS has a total size limit.
a.. Oversize 3 (OS3): a UPS Ground package with a combined length and girth
that exceeds 130 inches, and combined length and girth equal to or less than
165 inches, and actual weight less than 90 pounds. For each OS3 package, the
billable weight is 90 pounds. A Large Package Surcharge will be applied.