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"Tim"

27/12/2004 11:29 PM

Planing with a Jointer?

Can you sufficiently plane a piece of wood on a jointer?


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Mm

"Mike"

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

29/12/2004 11:51 AM

I see, That's what I though too :-)

--
Mike

"JGS" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
Hi Mike,
I meant to imply that you might have four flat sides but they would not
likely be parallel. JG

Mike wrote:

> "JGS" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
> > Or parallelness (sp). JG
> >
>
> I am curious, How?
> I can understand we can have 4 sides perfectly flat, but parallel??
>
> --
> Mike

r

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

01/01/2005 9:15 AM

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 05:56:42 GMT, Dale Scroggins <[email protected]>
wrote:

>CW wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:12:30 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"George" <george@least> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> If
>>>>
>>>>>you ever get close enough to see it, you'll find antique furniture was
>>>>
>>>>often
>>>>
>>>>>left as is from the scrub, not even the jack, on the insides and
>>>>>underneaths.
>>>>
>>>>I build airplanes for a living. I wonder what they would say if my goal
>>
>> was
>>
>>>>to build them like they did 100 years ago?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Doubtless the FAA inspector would have a long, serious conversation
>>>with you about things like basic safety standards.
>>>
>>>The construction details on some of those old airplanes were just
>>>plain scary.
>>
>>
>> No doubt.
>>
>>
>
>Some years ago, a childhood friend called and invited me to join him in
>rebuilding a couple of airplanes. They were French-built, in the 1930s.
> I could read a little French at the time, and all the manuals were in
>French. I remember marveling at the workmanship of the woodworkers who
>built those airframes. I have never seen any wood more finely crafted.
>
>Thirty-five years later, I'm again working on French airplanes. Metal
>and composite now, with amazing performance and technology. The
>workmanship is still superb, but no better than that of the workers who
>built those airframes of wood in the 1930s.
>
>Dale Scroggins

By the 1930s aircraft designers and constructors knew what they were
doing and the standards of aircraft workmanship were extremely high
everywhere.

Before, say, 1910, it was a very different story.

--RC

"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

28/12/2004 4:35 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Tim <[email protected]> wrote:
>Can you sufficiently plane a piece of wood on a jointer?
>
>

Sufficient for what?


--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

JJ

JGS

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

28/12/2004 5:58 AM

Or parallelness (sp). JG

Doug Winterburn wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:29:34 -0500, Tim wrote:
>
> > Can you sufficiently plane a piece of wood on a jointer?
>
> For flatness, but not for thickness.
>
> - Doug
>
> --
>
> To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard)

JJ

JGS

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

29/12/2004 6:20 AM

Hi Mike,
I meant to imply that you might have four flat sides but they would not
likely be parallel. JG

Mike wrote:

> "JGS" <[email protected]> a =E9crit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
> > Or parallelness (sp). JG
> >
>
> I am curious, How?
> I can understand we can have 4 sides perfectly flat, but parallel??
>
> --
> Mike

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

28/12/2004 8:48 AM

For what?

You can use it to establish a flat face easily, a nearly parallel without
too much effort, and a perfectly parallel face with some work . Use the
techniques you would use if hand planing on the side to be made parallel.

OTOH, you don't need perfect parallel on most stuff, do you? You even take
what is, and ruin it with planing, sanding and tweaking after assembly. If
you ever get close enough to see it, you'll find antique furniture was often
left as is from the scrub, not even the jack, on the insides and
underneaths.

"Tim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Can you sufficiently plane a piece of wood on a jointer?
>
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

31/12/2004 7:42 AM

"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "George" <george@least> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> If
> > you ever get close enough to see it, you'll find antique furniture was
> often
> > left as is from the scrub, not even the jack, on the insides and
> > underneaths.
>
> I build airplanes for a living. I wonder what they would say if my goal
was
> to build them like they did 100 years ago?
>
>
They'd probably say you are chronically obtuse.

Now if you built them like they did _fifty_ years ago, they'd be good for
another twenty of bomb hauling....

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

30/12/2004 6:12 PM


"George" <george@least> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
If
> you ever get close enough to see it, you'll find antique furniture was
often
> left as is from the scrub, not even the jack, on the insides and
> underneaths.

I build airplanes for a living. I wonder what they would say if my goal was
to build them like they did 100 years ago?

Mm

"Mike"

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

28/12/2004 9:01 PM

"JGS" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> Or parallelness (sp). JG
>

I am curious, How?
I can understand we can have 4 sides perfectly flat, but parallel??

--
Mike

r

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

31/12/2004 7:01 PM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:12:30 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"George" <george@least> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
> If
>> you ever get close enough to see it, you'll find antique furniture was
>often
>> left as is from the scrub, not even the jack, on the insides and
>> underneaths.
>
>I build airplanes for a living. I wonder what they would say if my goal was
>to build them like they did 100 years ago?
>
Doubtless the FAA inspector would have a long, serious conversation
with you about things like basic safety standards.

The construction details on some of those old airplanes were just
plain scary.

--RC
"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

27/12/2004 9:31 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:29:34 -0500, Tim wrote:

> Can you sufficiently plane a piece of wood on a jointer?

For flatness, but not for thickness.

- Doug

--

To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard)

DS

Dale Scroggins

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

01/01/2005 5:56 AM

CW wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:12:30 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"George" <george@least> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>> If
>>>
>>>>you ever get close enough to see it, you'll find antique furniture was
>>>
>>>often
>>>
>>>>left as is from the scrub, not even the jack, on the insides and
>>>>underneaths.
>>>
>>>I build airplanes for a living. I wonder what they would say if my goal
>
> was
>
>>>to build them like they did 100 years ago?
>>>
>>
>>Doubtless the FAA inspector would have a long, serious conversation
>>with you about things like basic safety standards.
>>
>>The construction details on some of those old airplanes were just
>>plain scary.
>
>
> No doubt.
>
>

Some years ago, a childhood friend called and invited me to join him in
rebuilding a couple of airplanes. They were French-built, in the 1930s.
I could read a little French at the time, and all the manuals were in
French. I remember marveling at the workmanship of the woodworkers who
built those airframes. I have never seen any wood more finely crafted.

Thirty-five years later, I'm again working on French airplanes. Metal
and composite now, with amazing performance and technology. The
workmanship is still superb, but no better than that of the workers who
built those airframes of wood in the 1930s.

Dale Scroggins

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Tim" on 27/12/2004 11:29 PM

31/12/2004 12:19 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:12:30 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"George" <george@least> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> > If
> >> you ever get close enough to see it, you'll find antique furniture was
> >often
> >> left as is from the scrub, not even the jack, on the insides and
> >> underneaths.
> >
> >I build airplanes for a living. I wonder what they would say if my goal
was
> >to build them like they did 100 years ago?
> >
> Doubtless the FAA inspector would have a long, serious conversation
> with you about things like basic safety standards.
>
> The construction details on some of those old airplanes were just
> plain scary.

No doubt.


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