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01/03/2004 7:50 PM

Router Base Plate

Hi, all. I just bought a fixed base router and have never used a
router before now,if this is an obvious question to most. The opening
in the base plate that came with the thing is to small for the bit
that I want to use to fit through. My question is, is there a reason
why I shouldn't use the router without a base plate attached, and if
so, are various base plates generally available in hardware stores,
etc...? I want to do some edge routing to a very narrow piece of
wood. I'm trying to use a round over bit to make a flat edge into a
dome shape (by doing one pass on each side). I'm still working on the
best way to get at this piece, but I'm thinking I'll figure that out
through trial and error. However, with what I currently have the only
way I can see to use this bit (and some of the other ones in the set I
bought) is to remove the base plate, leaving a large (4.5 inch or so)
opening; Isn't it not really a good idea to have such an enormous
difference between the radius of the bit and the opening it fits
through? The bit opening in the plate that came with the tool is
about 1.5 inches across and the bit's radius is just slightly larger.
Also, I would have the metalic base of the router "gliding" over the
work piece. Makita does make a different style base plate with a
larger opening that the bit certainly would fit through, but in the
small town I live in I doubt I would have an easy time coming by it.
Mostly, though, I'm wondering wether I should not even consider using
the router without some sort of base plate in place. TIA.

Mark


This topic has 6 replies

tT

in reply to [email protected] (Mark) on 01/03/2004 7:50 PM

02/03/2004 4:21 AM

Mark wrote:>Hi, all. I just bought a fixed base router and have never used a
>router before now,if this is an obvious question to most. The opening
>in the base plate that came with the thing is to small for the bit
>that I want to use to fit through. My question is, is there a reason
>why I shouldn't use the router without a base plate attached, and if
>so, are various base plates generally available in hardware stores,
>etc...? I want to do some edge routing to a very narrow piece of
>wood. I'm trying to use a round over bit to make a flat edge into a
>dome shape (by doing one pass on each side). I'm still working on the
>best way to get at this piece, but I'm thinking I'll figure that out
>through trial and error. However, with what I currently have the only
>way I can see to use this bit (and some of the other ones in the set I
>bought) is to remove the base plate, leaving a large (4.5 inch or so)
>opening; Isn't it not really a good idea to have such an enormous
>difference between the radius of the bit and the opening it fits
>through? The bit opening in the plate that came with the tool is
>about 1.5 inches across and the bit's radius is just slightly larger.
>Also, I would have the metalic base of the router "gliding" over the
>work piece. Makita does make a different style base plate with a
>larger opening that the bit certainly would fit through, but in the
>small town I live in I doubt I would have an easy time coming by it.
>Mostly, though, I'm wondering wether I should not even consider using
>the router without some sort of base plate in place. TIA.
>
>Mark
You should
have as much plate as you can to support the router.You could make yourself a
plate out of some thin plywood or something. Sounds like you'll learn a lot.
Never having used a router before, using a wide bit on small stock, and single
passing it will show you a thing or two. Be careful. Tom
Someday, it'll all be over....

Ll

LegMan

in reply to [email protected] (Mark) on 01/03/2004 7:50 PM

02/03/2004 6:35 AM

Mark wrote:
>
> Hi, all. I just bought a fixed base router and have never used a
> router before now,if this is an obvious question to most. The opening
> in the base plate that came with the thing is to small for the bit
> that I want to use to fit through. My question is, is there a reason
> why I shouldn't use the router without a base plate attached, and if
> so, are various base plates generally available in hardware stores,
> etc...? I want to do some edge routing to a very narrow piece of
> wood. I'm trying to use a round over bit to make a flat edge into a
> dome shape (by doing one pass on each side). I'm still working on the
> best way to get at this piece, but I'm thinking I'll figure that out
> through trial and error. However, with what I currently have the only
> way I can see to use this bit (and some of the other ones in the set I
> bought) is to remove the base plate, leaving a large (4.5 inch or so)
> opening; Isn't it not really a good idea to have such an enormous
> difference between the radius of the bit and the opening it fits
> through? The bit opening in the plate that came with the tool is
> about 1.5 inches across and the bit's radius is just slightly larger.
> Also, I would have the metalic base of the router "gliding" over the
> work piece. Makita does make a different style base plate with a
> larger opening that the bit certainly would fit through, but in the
> small town I live in I doubt I would have an easy time coming by it.
> Mostly, though, I'm wondering wether I should not even consider using
> the router without some sort of base plate in place. TIA.
>
> Mark


While I do believe it would be unsafe to use the router without a base-
plate (some plungers DO need it), at best, you'll have a tipsy router
that could mar your workpiece!

Some HomeDepot/Lowes/Hardware store sell "Universal" base plates that
would serve the purpose.

OR... as Tom pointed out, make yourself a temporary base-plate from 1/4"
plywood or hardboard (Masonite) using the original base-plate as a
template for the screw holes and bore/saw an appropriately sized center
hole. Extreme accuracy is not needed!

HTH,

Charlie LegMan (remove 999 for eMail)

Ll

LegMan

in reply to [email protected] (Mark) on 01/03/2004 7:50 PM

02/03/2004 5:31 PM

LegMan wrote:
<snippage>
> While I do believe it would be unsafe to use the router without a base-
> plate (some plungers DO need it), at best, you'll have a tipsy router
> that could mar your workpiece!

ARGH... make that "While I do NOT believe...".

Charlie LegMan (remove 999 for eMail)

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] (Mark) on 01/03/2004 7:50 PM

02/03/2004 5:20 AM

ever considered getting a router table, Mark?

dave

Mark wrote:

> Hi, all. I just bought a fixed base router and have never used a
> router before now,if this is an obvious question to most. The opening
> in the base plate that came with the thing is to small for the bit
> that I want to use to fit through. My question is, is there a reason
> why I shouldn't use the router without a base plate attached, and if
> so, are various base plates generally available in hardware stores,
> etc...? I want to do some edge routing to a very narrow piece of
> wood. I'm trying to use a round over bit to make a flat edge into a
> dome shape (by doing one pass on each side). I'm still working on the
> best way to get at this piece, but I'm thinking I'll figure that out
> through trial and error. However, with what I currently have the only
> way I can see to use this bit (and some of the other ones in the set I
> bought) is to remove the base plate, leaving a large (4.5 inch or so)
> opening; Isn't it not really a good idea to have such an enormous
> difference between the radius of the bit and the opening it fits
> through? The bit opening in the plate that came with the tool is
> about 1.5 inches across and the bit's radius is just slightly larger.
> Also, I would have the metalic base of the router "gliding" over the
> work piece. Makita does make a different style base plate with a
> larger opening that the bit certainly would fit through, but in the
> small town I live in I doubt I would have an easy time coming by it.
> Mostly, though, I'm wondering wether I should not even consider using
> the router without some sort of base plate in place. TIA.
>
> Mark

Mi

"Mike in Idaho"

in reply to [email protected] (Mark) on 01/03/2004 7:50 PM

02/03/2004 9:13 PM

Mark, please do your fingers a favor and either buy or check out (library) a
book on routers before you use yours. I almost got my fingers lopped off
the first time I used one. I was feeding stock into the router (in a table
I had just built) the wrong direction and it grabbed the piece and sucked it
into the bit and by the time my reactions kicked in I was about an inch from
the bit and still firmly gripping the piece. Had the piece been any longer
I'd be really messed up -- oh and take your watch & and any rings off (roll
up your sleeves too).

If I'm scaring you, then good. I shudder everytime I think about a few of
my first learning experiences and near misses with the equipment I have.
I'm much better now and I love woodworking as I'm sure you will too someday,
but it would be awful to ruin your experience right away with a nasty
accident that could have been avoided.

Here's a great website on routers (you can even order extra bases from him
that fit the bigger bits -- don't go too big, your router might not handle
it): http://www.patwarner.com/index.shtml

Here's another site that I go to about once a quarter to read up on new
accidents so I can avoid them (did you know you can get kickback on a
planer -- I didn't until I read an accident or three about them):
http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm

Good luck, have fun, and be safe :)

Mike


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> Hi, all. I just bought a fixed base router and have never used a
> router before now,if this is an obvious question to most.

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Bn

Bridger

in reply to [email protected] (Mark) on 01/03/2004 7:50 PM

02/03/2004 10:22 AM

On 1 Mar 2004 19:50:21 -0800, [email protected] (Mark) wrote:

>Hi, all. I just bought a fixed base router and have never used a
>router before now,if this is an obvious question to most. The opening
>in the base plate that came with the thing is to small for the bit
>that I want to use to fit through. My question is, is there a reason
>why I shouldn't use the router without a base plate attached, and if
>so, are various base plates generally available in hardware stores,
>etc...? I want to do some edge routing to a very narrow piece of
>wood. I'm trying to use a round over bit to make a flat edge into a
>dome shape (by doing one pass on each side). I'm still working on the
>best way to get at this piece, but I'm thinking I'll figure that out
>through trial and error. However, with what I currently have the only
>way I can see to use this bit (and some of the other ones in the set I
>bought) is to remove the base plate, leaving a large (4.5 inch or so)
>opening; Isn't it not really a good idea to have such an enormous
>difference between the radius of the bit and the opening it fits
>through? The bit opening in the plate that came with the tool is
>about 1.5 inches across and the bit's radius is just slightly larger.
>Also, I would have the metalic base of the router "gliding" over the
>work piece. Makita does make a different style base plate with a
>larger opening that the bit certainly would fit through, but in the
>small town I live in I doubt I would have an easy time coming by it.
>Mostly, though, I'm wondering wether I should not even consider using
>the router without some sort of base plate in place. TIA.
>
>Mark



welcome to the world of Making Stuff For Your Router.

take the subbase off of the router and use it as a template to lay out
the screw holes for the 4 or 5 new ones that you are going to make.
before you put any of them back on, though, make a router table and
mount the router to that to do your roundover.

roundovers that meet- IE have no flat left between them- really should
be done on a table.

the table can be a scrap of plywood clamped to the bench. the fence is
a straight stick. don't get too fancy making your first router table.
right away you'll figure out that you want sonething to be
different...


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