In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
I think its made of MDF.
I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
something else, like pine and do the same?
"ississauga" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> I think its made of MDF.
>
> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
> I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
> maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
> something else, like pine and do the same?
Why do you not use shoe mold instead of 1/4 round?
On 28 Sep 2004 17:31:40 -0700, [email protected] (ississauga)
wrote:
>I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
You should be looking into getting a shaper
Oh look ! Another thread.
> MDF is too hard on tooling and operators for me.
>
> "John"
I agree completely. I made about 2 doz 12x24 MDF
raised panels for a stairway paneling project - basically
ruined my $80 MCLS shaper bit. I guess it was worth it,
but be aware that the crap in MDF can really mess up a bit.
They had some use before this however, so maybe I got
all I could out of this bit.
Need to stop buying "bargain" bits!?
Nice panels tho.
Along these lines, C3 vs C4 carbide - is it worth the
difference in $? Can anyone comment?
Lou
I'd get bass, white pine or red oak for paint or match. Wooden fingers
(featherboards and push sticks) make it just as easy to run 3/4 square stock
past the shaper as any other size, maybe safer, since you are giving the
machine full respect by keeping the flesh fingers entirely out of the
process.
MDF is too hard on tooling and operators for me.
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What material you use is up to you.
>
> However, run it thru the router, then rip to width, running those thin
> slices thru is more hazardous than running wider stuff thru the
> router, and if you get 1in strips, then run thru router, you are still
> going to have to run those thin strips thru the saw again to get the
> finished dimensions unless you are going to use the strips in the form
> they come off the router as (ie, inch wide with a quarter round edge
> on them)
>
> John
>
> On 28 Sep 2004 17:31:40 -0700, [email protected] (ississauga)
> wrote:
>
> >In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> >quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> >I think its made of MDF.
> >
> >I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
> >I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
> >maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
> >something else, like pine and do the same?
>
>
On 28 Sep 2004 17:31:40 -0700, ississauga <[email protected]> wrote:
> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> I think its made of MDF.
>
> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
> I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
> maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
> something else, like pine and do the same?
Possible, yes. Easy. Rout the edge on a piece of stock, then saw the
stock. Feel free to invent your own method.
Feasible? Not especially. You're proposing adding a process that's
completely removed from what business types call your "Core Competence"
. .you'd have to make a LOT of MDF moulding to make that cost effective.
Sounds like you're paying retail. Since you're in the trade, you should
look for a supplier who can better meet your needs.
"Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> MDF for molding??? Doesn't sound very aesthetically pleasing.
Lots of it available. Just as pleasing as wood when painted.
Only way I'd make my own molding is if I needed a special shape or special
wood to match something else.
[email protected] (ississauga) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> I think its made of MDF.
>
> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
> I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
> maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
> something else, like pine and do the same?
>
I don't know where you're at but in VA I get red oak shoe (good quality
3/4" by 1/2" for between 25 & 30 cents per foot from the local hardwood
flooring distributors. Shop around. Sorry I don't have any advice on making
your own.
Adam
Doug Miller above has the method I would use to make my own, but I
agree with everyone that this isn't cost effective.
Assuming you're buying materials at a fair market price, you should be
passing these costs directly to your customer, so the cost shouldn't
matter to you at all -- unless you are trying to profit on materials.
Extra profit can come from increased production.
-Mike
[email protected] (ississauga) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> I think its made of MDF.
>
> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
> I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
> maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
> something else, like pine and do the same?
> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> I think its made of MDF.
>
> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
> I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
> maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
> something else, like pine and do the same?
MDF for molding??? Doesn't sound very aesthetically pleasing.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (ississauga) wrote:
>In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
>quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
>I think its made of MDF.
>
>I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
Possible, yes. Feasible, doubtful. Cost-effective, almost certainly not.
Consider: one 4x8 sheet of 3/4 MDF is approx $30, and will yield about four
dozen 8-foot strips, which if purchased would cost about $100 more than that.
What's your time worth? Say $25 an hour? Can you mill up these strips in four
hours?
>I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
>maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
>something else, like pine and do the same?
Doesn't matter what you use, that's the wrong order. Cut the profile on the
edge of a wide board, then rip the profile off on the table saw. Much too
dangerous to try to run a 3/4" wide strip through a router table.
--
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I don't know what size shop you have, but it you have a router table, and a
table saw it's easy. Take your stock, run it thru the router, then rip it on
the table saw. Repeat until the stock is depleted. Once you have everything
set up, all your 1/4 round will be identical.
--Mike
"ississauga" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> I think its made of MDF.
>
> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
> I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
> maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
> something else, like pine and do the same?
Buck Turgidson said:
>> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
>> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
>> I think its made of MDF.
>>
>> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
>> I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
>> maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
>> something else, like pine and do the same?
>
>MDF for molding??? Doesn't sound very aesthetically pleasing.
Biggest problem - don't let it get wet!
Greg G.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (ississauga) wrote:
> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> I think its made of MDF.
>
> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
> I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
> maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
> something else, like pine and do the same?
either way you can use a moulding cutter on a TS or preferably a router
bit in a router table if you don't have a shaper.
first cut a piece of stock twice as wide as you need plus an amount
equal to a rip cut on the TS. Take your stock, run it through the
moulding cutter to form the quarter round on BOTH sides of the stock,
then rip the stock so that you have two pieces of quarter round
moulding. This way, you're not trying to put thin strips through a
cutterhead. Ripping is easier.
Go look at Eagle bits...they have a "Koizumi" bit that was desinged by a
neighbor of mine from the quarter round in our homes (Gundersons-a
variety of American Four-Square). It is like a moulding called "Inside
Corner" but as a quarter round. It is a bit more distinctive than
standard quarter-round.
--
Regards,
JP
"The measure of a man is what he will do
knowing he will get nothing in return"
ississauga said:
>In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
>quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
>I think its made of MDF.
>
>I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
>I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
>maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
>something else, like pine and do the same?
I wouldn't think it would be cost effective unless you were making
specialty trim items out of oak, mahogany or cherry. It's hard to
beat huge mass production machinery to save 5 cents a foot on common
items. Unless you like working for 80 cents an hour...
I wouldn't use MDF molding on a doghouse. Are you sure it's not a
another composite material or PVC?
FWIW,
Greg G.
"ississauga" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> I think its made of MDF.
>
> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
> I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
> maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
> something else, like pine and do the same?
I think that the time you would spend doing this mundane task would be a
waste considering you have your own business. Use that time to take on more
work which will undoubtedly repay you better than saving a few cents on the
quarter round. I would shop around including to local mills for the best
pricing. Also, consider shopping at different suppliers on the internet.
Frank
What material you use is up to you.
However, run it thru the router, then rip to width, running those thin
slices thru is more hazardous than running wider stuff thru the
router, and if you get 1in strips, then run thru router, you are still
going to have to run those thin strips thru the saw again to get the
finished dimensions unless you are going to use the strips in the form
they come off the router as (ie, inch wide with a quarter round edge
on them)
John
On 28 Sep 2004 17:31:40 -0700, [email protected] (ississauga)
wrote:
>In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
>quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
>I think its made of MDF.
>
>I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
>I was thinking of buying a 3/4 inch MDF board and having it cut into
>maybe 1 inch slices then run it thru a router. Or should I use
>something else, like pine and do the same?
Somebody wrote:
> In my little hardwood flooring business I use several hundred feet of
> quarteround, it costs about 35 cents a foot here for the basic stuff,
> I think its made of MDF.
>
> I was thinking of making my own, is that feasable and how to make it?
<snip>
IMHO, I wouldn't screw with it.
Shop around, buy right.
You are talking about a commodity.
No way can you compete with a dedicated molding house, especially if you
negotiate with them.
HTH
Lew