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"Student"

17/10/2006 7:47 AM

Table Saw Winter Storage

Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.

Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.


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"Mike"

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

17/10/2006 8:10 AM


Student wrote:
> Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
> 12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.
>
> Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
> there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.

Apart from keeping rust at bay, if the saw is belt driven, you might
want to pull the belt off.

ee

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

18/10/2006 5:17 AM

Student wrote:
> Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
> 12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.
>
> Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
> there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.

My Griz 1022 contractor saw has lived in our unattached, mostly
unheated garage in Wisconsin for about four years with no ill effects.
Nothing special done to it. I use Johnson's wax on the table once or
twice a year and it's got a linked belt which I don't take off.

I've got a 240V electric heater that makes the garage comfortable to
about 25F and tolerable to about 10, but I turn it on when I'm going to
use the shop and turn it off when I leave. The coldest I've ever used
the saw was about 10 degrees. I didn't like it. :-)

In a garden shed, unused, what I would worry about most is moist
conditions at the beginning and end of winter. The cold shouldn't hurt
it at all. As has been said, probably won't be kind to the belt, but
that's about it. I'd worry more about wet, foggy, drizzly springtime
and try to keep that shed nice and tight.

And I agree that covering it with plastic would probably invite
condensation, so I'd be careful what I used to cover it, if I covered
it, which I don't think I would.

bb

"bremen68"

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

18/10/2006 10:14 AM


Student wrote:
> Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
> 12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.
>
> Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
> there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.

Shouldn't hurt anything really but the belt... One additional thing you
could do is pull the motor off and store that inside somewhere.

It'd keep the dampness out of it.

You could spray it with something too. One place to look for spray on
anti-rust items is marine shops. Just check to see how easy it is to
remove before you hose it down...

My saws and tools sit in the unattached shop and garage all winter in
PA and I haven't had any problems with them. I have a propane heater
for the garage (torpedo style) and a small coal stove in the shop that
I fire up if I'm planning on working on a project.

The only bad thing is that getting the air temp up doesn't do a thing
for tools that are still at the outside temp of around 15 degrees... ;-)

Ss

"Student"

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

19/10/2006 5:25 PM


Thanks everybody for your advice. My table saw is like this one:

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B000J38GXG/qid=1161303343/ref=sr_1_0/102-0701257-3889756?ie=UTF8&searsBrand=core&mqnodeid=APS

I figure, I can take the aluminum rails and accessory table off, and
detach the TS with the motor from its base, and then it becomes small
enough so I could store it inside.

I wouldn't do this if I was comfortable taking the belt off. Well
taking it off is probably the easy part, what concerns me is puting it
back on, proper tensioning and such. If someone explains to me how to
do it right I'll probably do it and leave the TS in the shed.


Student wrote:
> Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
> 12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.
>
> Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
> there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.

Mn

Mike

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

20/10/2006 11:11 AM

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:10:24 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I did not say it was a rust inhibitor - read again. I did say it will help
>keep the undercarriage parts from rusting though since it displaces water
>and if moisture can't get to the metal - you shouldn't get any rust.
>
>I just went through a flood here in July and had about 3 feet of water in
>the shop. First thing I did (after the water level went down) was to spray
>all of the metal on tools with WD40. No rust on the ones I did that too.
>
>So whether you think it works or not - it does inhibit rust. So you've told
>us what you know about WD40, now how about giving the OP some advice?

Yo would have got exactly the same results with a bit of kerosine.


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MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

20/10/2006 6:42 AM


"Student" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I figure, I can take the aluminum rails and accessory table off, and
> detach the TS with the motor from its base, and then it becomes small
> enough so I could store it inside.
>
> I wouldn't do this if I was comfortable taking the belt off. Well
> taking it off is probably the easy part, what concerns me is puting it
> back on, proper tensioning and such. If someone explains to me how to
> do it right I'll probably do it and leave the TS in the shed.
>
>

There should be no tensioning to the belt. Lift the motor and it will pivot
so you can easily remove the belt. Then, you can remove the motor. Reverse
the procedure to install it. The weight of the motor will tension the belt.

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-Mike-
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RC

"Rick's Cabinet Shop"

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

18/10/2006 2:49 AM

no, it's a "water displacer", hence the name...


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"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> WD 40 is not a rust inhibitor.
>
> "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Student" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
>> > 12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.
>> >
>> > Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
>> > there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.
>> >
>> If you cover it with something make sure it is a cloth that allows air
>> through or you will trap condensation and have lots of fun come spring.
>> Clean it, lube it liberally as per the maintenance instructions and lay
> down
>> a couple of coats of wax or other rust inhibitor of your liking. A good
>> spray of WD40 on the undercarriage parts will help keep those from
> rusting.
>> All that trapped sawdust in the nooks and cranny's collects moisture -
> blow
>> it out and spray with WD40.
>>
>> Bob S.
>>
>>
>
>

Bn

"BobS"

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

18/10/2006 1:20 AM


"Student" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
> 12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.
>
> Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
> there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.
>
If you cover it with something make sure it is a cloth that allows air
through or you will trap condensation and have lots of fun come spring.
Clean it, lube it liberally as per the maintenance instructions and lay down
a couple of coats of wax or other rust inhibitor of your liking. A good
spray of WD40 on the undercarriage parts will help keep those from rusting.
All that trapped sawdust in the nooks and cranny's collects moisture - blow
it out and spray with WD40.

Bob S.

MP

Marty Phee

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

17/10/2006 2:55 PM

Clean it well and then coat with oil.

Mice might like to find a home in it.


Student wrote:
> Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
> 12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.
>
> Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
> there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.
>

Bn

"BobS"

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

20/10/2006 2:10 AM


"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> WD 40 is not a rust inhibitor.
>
> "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Student" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
>> > 12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.
>> >
>> > Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
>> > there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.
>> >
>> If you cover it with something make sure it is a cloth that allows air
>> through or you will trap condensation and have lots of fun come spring.
>> Clean it, lube it liberally as per the maintenance instructions and lay
> down
>> a couple of coats of wax or other rust inhibitor of your liking. A good
>> spray of WD40 on the undercarriage parts will help keep those from
> rusting.
>> All that trapped sawdust in the nooks and cranny's collects moisture -
> blow
>> it out and spray with WD40.
>>
>> Bob S.

CW,

I did not say it was a rust inhibitor - read again. I did say it will help
keep the undercarriage parts from rusting though since it displaces water
and if moisture can't get to the metal - you shouldn't get any rust.

I just went through a flood here in July and had about 3 feet of water in
the shop. First thing I did (after the water level went down) was to spray
all of the metal on tools with WD40. No rust on the ones I did that too.

So whether you think it works or not - it does inhibit rust. So you've told
us what you know about WD40, now how about giving the OP some advice?

Bob S.


Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Student" on 17/10/2006 7:47 AM

18/10/2006 2:46 AM

WD 40 is not a rust inhibitor.

"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Student" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Looks like my Craftsman table saw will have to spend the winter in my
> > 12x12' garden shed. Gets pretty cold here, could dip to -30 C/-20 F.
> >
> > Could storing TS under these conditions have any negative effect? Is
> > there a "winterizing" Procedure one should apply? Thx for your advice.
> >
> If you cover it with something make sure it is a cloth that allows air
> through or you will trap condensation and have lots of fun come spring.
> Clean it, lube it liberally as per the maintenance instructions and lay
down
> a couple of coats of wax or other rust inhibitor of your liking. A good
> spray of WD40 on the undercarriage parts will help keep those from
rusting.
> All that trapped sawdust in the nooks and cranny's collects moisture -
blow
> it out and spray with WD40.
>
> Bob S.
>
>


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