On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 04:10:27 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
2353: chipper or crusher
2355: anchor
2356: a chart recorder of somekind. The chart shown doesn't look like
a seismograph though, and the mechanism in the bubble doesn't look
like a seismograph. Maybe it records barometric pressure.
On 25 Sep 2011 00:12:39 GMT, DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2011-09-24, Robin Halligan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 22 Sep 2011 20:15:47 GMT, DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> 2354) O.K. -- the "Buried Cable" marking below it supports my initial
>>> thought. Cables -- in particular telephone cables, were at one
>>> time fed pressurized neutral gasses such as nitrogen to keep any
>>> leaks from letting water in.
>>>
>>> Usually, there is a compressed gas tank and regulator connected
>>> to the cable every so many miles. This would appear to be
>>> something else, perhaps a splice box to give access for
>>> maintenance (once the pressure is removed).
>>
>>
>> I was thinking it could be ab alarm box to A sensor connected to the cable
>> if the pressur drops past a certen point it would send a signal to the
>> exchange that that cable has developed a leak or has been damages an a crew
>> is sent out to check and fix, easy if the damage is obvious a pain in the
>> But if not (been their done that)
>
> O.K. That makes sense. Out of curiosity -- how do you drain
> the pressure prior to opening it? I did not see a bleeder valve
> obvious. Granted, if there were a major leak between the tank and the
> alarm box, that would not be a problem -- but if you need to replace the
> sensor (or recalibrate it) in the absence of a significant leak, that
> could be a pain -- you would have to send someone else to the upstream
> and downstream tanks to shut off the valves -- and presumably to operate
> bleed valves there, too.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
Usally there was a valve (here in New Zealand we had the same type as on a
car tire) you would bleed the air out do the biz then remove the valve from
the valve stem and replace the top and seal then replace the valve and if
necessary you could bring it back up to pressure with a tank on the
vehicle,
Anoter thought has struck me it could have been a loading coil pot as well
some time in the Long runs every now and then you had to put loading coils
and a check finds this
http://davewhitmore.net/Images/field.htm
About half way down the page.
On 22 Sep 2011 20:15:47 GMT, DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2011-09-22, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
>
> 2353) An interesting, and puzzling device.
>
> Obviously intended to rotate.
>
> The look of the edge suggests that it has not been towed along
> rolling on a surface.
>
> The raised ridges are not shaped to act as cutters of any sort.
>
> Both sides have the outer row of ridges tilted to point CCW when
> viewed from that side, so they are pointing in opposite
> directions.
>
> There is no obvious provision for applying power to the axle to
> spin it.
>
> So -- it must be spun by a stream of whatever -- perhaps grain
> which hits it. Or perhaps water under pressure -- serving as
> some form of irrigation sprinkler.
>
> At about 30" diameter, and what appears to be 1" thick, it must
> be significantly heavy. About 0.13 cubic feet -- I would have
> expected more before calculating.
>
> 2354) O.K. -- the "Buried Cable" marking below it supports my initial
> thought. Cables -- in particular telephone cables, were at one
> time fed pressurized neutral gasses such as nitrogen to keep any
> leaks from letting water in.
>
> Usually, there is a compressed gas tank and regulator connected
> to the cable every so many miles. This would appear to be
> something else, perhaps a splice box to give access for
> maintenance (once the pressure is removed).
I was thinking it could be ab alarm box to A sensor connected to the cable
if the pressur drops past a certen point it would send a signal to the
exchange that that cable has developed a leak or has been damages an a crew
is sent out to check and fix, easy if the damage is obvious a pain in the
But if not (been their done that)
> 2355) Some form of cultivating plowshare. It bolts either to a hose-drawn
> plow or to a tractor. Not a hand-pushed plow, because the
> offset would make it unbalanced and difficult to push.
>
> 2356) 7-day barograph (recording barometer). A wind-up spring to drive
> the drum. I'm not quite sure what the dome is for, however.
>
> 2357) Some sort of oven for perhaps heat curing something. Not hot
> enough for heat treating metals however.
>
> There are two tanks with edge-fed wicks below them designed for
> heating the walls of the enclosure. (It *might* be that this
> would be a very smoky flame, in which case it could be used as
> a "smudge pot" for protecting orchards from freezing.
>
> 2358) Two sections of a tank tread for use on paved roads. An
> earth-moving machine (bulldozer or the like) would have blades
> which would dig into the soil, but which would also damage paved
> road surfaces.
>
> Now to post this, and then see what others have suggested.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
"Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...
I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Rob
Thursday, September 22, 2011
Set 407
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2353. Approximately 30" diameter, take a look at Neatorama for more guesses
and a chance to win a T-shirt.
Larger image
Larger image
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2354. This pressurized canister was shot on a country road next to some
railroad tracks:
Larger image
2355 looks like a recording barometer, But I could be wrong.
Steve R.
2356
Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2353 - What show were you at?
2354 - remote sensor box?
2355 - part of an arrow foot cultivator unit.
2356 -
2357 -
2358 - look like M48 tank track sections but 32" would be too wide
unless that includes the pins. the 48 ran 28" treads
--
Steve W.
2357 - Rather than an attractant device, it may be a repellant
device. Fruit tree growers, long ago, here, would fill small bottles
with kerosene, put a cloth wick in the top and hang them in their
trees to keep bugs from the fruit, especially plum and peach trees,
where the plum curculio (insect) would ruin the fruit before it
ripened. The odor would repell the insects. Maybe this box device
had a similar repellant purpose.
Sonny
J Burns wrote:
> Do you have any particular model in mind? I checked with a group of
> Planet Jr collectors. Two said it might have come from a No. 4 push
> hoe/rake/cultivator/seeder.
It's not a No.4 That had a different toolbar.
I believe it is a model 17 from around 1900-1906. Before they switched
from cast iron tool-bars to stamped steel
I have a 1922 and a 1945 catalog but that was after they switched to
stamped steel parts.
This is the correct item in this picture but I haven't found it in my
catalogs yet.
http://www.gnry.net/lookingback/1916/19160412d.jpg
http://cultivatortoday.info/?s=Garden+Cultivator+Ad
This is the version just before it I believe. Note the cast in handle
stays while the other one has bolt through handles.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_euq4iPQ9iQk/S8BP6CQdaPI/AAAAAAAAB30/AeqpqY59hqo/s1600/planet+jr+wheel+hoe+1898.jpg
>
> I found several photos of No. 4s, assembled and disassembled. I found
> the description and drawing in the 1897 Sears Catalog. The distinctive
> feature was that the tool bar could be unbolted and replaced with the
> seeder. Thus, the frame ended a couple of inches behind the wheel. On
> Rob's item, the tool bar is not detachable. It can't be a No. 4.
>
> (I found out why some No. 4s were drawn with only one wheel arm. The
> second arm bolted on. Rob's doesn't have a place to bolt an arm.)
>
> The owner of an antique garden tractor group told me Planet Jr made
> hardware to attach to various brands of tractors. He couldn't identify
> what tractor Rob's hardware was made for.
Another bit of trivia - The steel runner Flexible Flyer sleigh was also
built by the same company.
--
Steve W.
On Sep 21, 10:10=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
2353. Corn Sheller?
2355. Very small Drag Harrow.
2358. Caterpillar or tank track shoes.
Karl
On Sep 22, 4:10=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
What I can figure for most has been posted so I'll only weigh in on
2357.
(BTW near me there must be a leaking cable housing, there is a whole
nitrogen tank connected up to the line, changed out regularly)
OK, the tanks are connected to that material and likely drip/wick the
contents into the material, only time I've seen this is to saturate a
curtain that an animal has to walk through, but that doesn't seem
likely here.
I'm going to guess something is supposed to burn inside the big box,
and the heat and convection helps carry off whatever is in the tanks
that is supposed to evaporate off the wicks. Little door looks just
right for lighting something or controlling the draft.
Dave
"Stephen Quinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rob
>
> 2356 Portable Seismograph
I wonder if its for solar radiation logging?
> 2358 Tank track for road use.
>
> Steve
>
J Burns wrote:
> On 9/25/11 1:22 AM, Steve W. wrote:
>> J Burns wrote:
>
>>
>> It is a human powered item not an attachment. There is a company that
>> makes a NEW version of the same tool. They work well (I know of a few
>> Amish farms with them) But they are not something I want to push around
>> much.
>>
>>>
>>> I wish I knew where to find photos of 1930s Planet Jr tractors and
>>> implements.
>>
>>
> I haven't found any photos of a wheel hoe with a similar attachment.
>
> Here's a similar attachment on an unidentified Planet Jr tractor. The
> four-point hitch looks the same. Rob's mystery item would allow more
> choice about where to put the blades and might allow things other than
> chisels to be attached.
> http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/5498352/hr/1491272855/name/n_a
This is NOT an attachment for a wheel hoe Or for ANY planet Jr. powered
equipment.
It IS the human powered push type wheel hoe.
The item in the picture is the main frame (missing the handles and the
front wheel) with three cultivator teeth attached.
The Planet Jr. name was used on much more than just the walk behind
tractors. They made horse drawn and people powered garden and farm
equipment long before they made anything with an engine on it.
--
Steve W.
Rob H. wrote the following:
> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
Most have correctly identified 2358 as a tank tread, but I will go a
little further. It's from a WWII US Sherman tank
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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On 9/22/2011 5:40 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2353 chaff cutter
2355 harrow or seeding plough
2358 tank track plates rubber coated
--
Kevin (Bluey)
"I'm not young enough to know everything."
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> Ted Schuerzinger <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:907gm6vmsdwy [email protected]:
>
>> In a pressurized container that says "wax pressure" on it?
>>
>
> I've seen dyslexia, but never INVERTIA.
>
> MAX pressure... It's a reservoir for pressurizing cable housings.
>
> LLoyd
Yup , keeps ground water out of the underground telephone cable sheathing .
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !
We had one like that way back in time. I think Dad bought it for the
tobacco rows and vegge garden in Winston-Salem in '46 or 7.
I remember when he finally decided it was to big for a normal house.
Sadly he sold it - but found a home for it.
Martin
On 9/24/2011 11:58 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-407.html#answers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Do you know what model Planet Jr the cast-iron cultivator went with?
>> Here's a Planet Jr tractor that doesn't look as if it would fit that
>> attachment. For that matter, the piece with 6 tines and 2 disks
>> doesn't appear to be attached.
>>
>> http://www.smokstak.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=10168&catid=newimages
>
>
> I don't know what model it went with, on the top of it were the words
> Planet Jr though I shopped them out before posting the image. The
> company has been around quite a long time so I'm sure they've had a lot
> of different models.
Ted Schuerzinger <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:907gm6vmsdwy
[email protected]:
> In a pressurized container that says "wax pressure" on it?
>
I've seen dyslexia, but never INVERTIA.
MAX pressure... It's a reservoir for pressurizing cable housings.
LLoyd
Rob H. wrote:
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-407.html#answers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Do you know what model Planet Jr the cast-iron cultivator went with?
>> Here's a Planet Jr tractor that doesn't look as if it would fit that
>> attachment. For that matter, the piece with 6 tines and 2 disks
>> doesn't appear to be attached.
>>
>> http://www.smokstak.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=10168&catid=newimages
>
>
> I don't know what model it went with, on the top of it were the words
> Planet Jr though I shopped them out before posting the image. The
> company has been around quite a long time so I'm sure they've had a lot
> of different models.
The item you have pictured is not an attachment for any of the powered
Planet Jr. tractors. It is the main toolbar for a Planet Jr. single
wheel hoe.
The front attachment point is where the front wheel mounts. The two on
the sides are where the handles attach. You could attach
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_euq4iPQ9iQk/S8BP6CQdaPI/AAAAAAAAB30/AeqpqY59hqo/s1600/planet+jr+wheel+hoe+1898.jpg
This is the earlier version but the only difference is the handle
attachment points. They were changed around 1916
This is the later unit.
http://www.gnry.net/lookingback/1916/19160412d.jpg
--
Steve W.
2353 totally no clue
2354 Being next to burried cable, maybe they keep the
underground cable pressurized, so water doesn't leak in?
2355 Farmer's three of spades?
2356 possibly a seismograph?
2357 totally no clue.
2358 some kind of tank type tread for a heavy machine?
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On Sep 21, 10:10 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's
> set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
On 9/22/11 8:09 AM, Snag wrote:
> Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
>> Ted Schuerzinger<[email protected]> fired this volley in
>> news:907gm6vmsdwy [email protected]:
>>
>>> In a pressurized container that says "wax pressure" on it?
>>>
>>
>> I've seen dyslexia, but never INVERTIA.
>>
>> MAX pressure... It's a reservoir for pressurizing cable housings.
>>
>> LLoyd
>
> Yup , keeps ground water out of the underground telephone cable sheathing .
Who grinds water nowadays?
"Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Stephen Quinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Rob
>>
>> 2356 Portable Seismograph
>
>
> I wonder if its for solar radiation logging?
Yes, the owner said it was used to measure the amount of sunshine on a daily
basis.
"Dave__67" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Sep 22, 4:10 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>I'm going to guess something is supposed to burn inside the big box,
>and the heat and convection helps carry off whatever is in the tanks
>that is supposed to evaporate off the wicks. Little door looks just
>right for lighting something or controlling the draft.
I've shown this to a lot of people and a number of them have guessed that
the tubes hold fuel and the wicks are burned for heat for one purpose or
another, the main problem with this idea is that the wicks are riveted to
the tubes and can't be replaced, and they are hanging with the wicks down
instead of up. The small hole with the sliding door is the only opening in
the big container, so it wouldn't have enough oxygen to burn anything inside
for very long.
This item belongs to a 70 year old man who got it from his father who was a
farmer and beekeeper, I've shown it to some beekeepers and none of them
recognized it, although some have guessed it's for catching a swarm of bees
with the tubes holding some kind of attractant that is dispersed through the
wicks. This is the best guess that I've heard for it yet.
Rob
On 9/22/11 5:13 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sep 21, 10:10 pm, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
2355 By the spade points, I'd call it a chisel plow. It looks too big
and deep for human power, but not as big or deep as one drawn by a
tractor.
A piece is broken off. It looks as if it was hitched with no "hinge" to
allow turning. Steering the towing vehicle would put a lot of stress on
the plow.
I wonder if it was for a two-wheeled garden tractor. The rigid hitch
would help keep the tractor straight if one wheel lost traction. To
turn, you would raise the plow by tipping the tractor forward.
On 9/22/2011 7:57 PM, J Burns wrote:
...
> 2355 By the spade points, I'd call it a chisel plow. It looks too big
> and deep for human power, but not as big or deep as one drawn by a tractor.
>
> A piece is broken off. It looks as if it was hitched with no "hinge" to
> allow turning. Steering the towing vehicle would put a lot of stress on
> the plow.
>
> I wonder if it was for a two-wheeled garden tractor. The rigid hitch
> would help keep the tractor straight if one wheel lost traction. To
> turn, you would raise the plow by tipping the tractor forward.
It does have a chisel-type point.
I don't see anything broken; it's missing at least the matching section
(or several sections).
It was in all likelihood from the hitch initially horse/mule-pulled.
There's a set of holes; I'm guessing there would have been connection to
the lift mechanism.
This is fairly old; cast tool shanks didn't last long--they were too
brittle.
It's also pretty small; would have been a specialty crop or garden
rather than large-scale cultivation use.
Is unique; I've not seen anything much like it and couldn't decipher
anything useful from the casting marks, unfortunately.
--
On 9/22/11 9:16 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 9/22/2011 7:57 PM, J Burns wrote:
> ...
>
>> 2355 By the spade points, I'd call it a chisel plow. It looks too big
>> and deep for human power, but not as big or deep as one drawn by a
>> tractor.
>>
>> A piece is broken off. It looks as if it was hitched with no "hinge" to
>> allow turning. Steering the towing vehicle would put a lot of stress on
>> the plow.
>>
>> I wonder if it was for a two-wheeled garden tractor. The rigid hitch
>> would help keep the tractor straight if one wheel lost traction. To
>> turn, you would raise the plow by tipping the tractor forward.
>
> It does have a chisel-type point.
>
> I don't see anything broken; it's missing at least the matching section
> (or several sections).
The arm extending to the right on the far side would be way off center.
It looks as if an arm on the near side broke off. If it were
connected by the two arms and links to the two holes farther to the
left, that could make a rigid connection to whatever was pulling it.
>
> It was in all likelihood from the hitch initially horse/mule-pulled.
> There's a set of holes; I'm guessing there would have been connection to
> the lift mechanism.
Gerry's link shows drawings of mule-drawn cultivators. They use a
one-point hitch and a wheel to control the depth.
In my experience with a couple of tillers, I needed to use the handles
to control the depth because the mechanical controller could sink into
the soft soil. Using the handles to control depth required a rigid
connection between the tiller part and the tractor part.
>
> This is fairly old; cast tool shanks didn't last long--they were too
> brittle.
>
> It's also pretty small; would have been a specialty crop or garden
> rather than large-scale cultivation use.
>
> Is unique; I've not seen anything much like it and couldn't decipher
> anything useful from the casting marks, unfortunately.
>
In the 1950s my best friend's family used a walking tractor to grow
vegetables on several acres. It was decades later that I saw my first
rototiller. I think theirs had a chisel plow, which would have been
cheaper.
Here's a walking tractor with six tines on the rear and four on the
front. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTJZ14RT7Bg
Here's one plowing. The possibilities depend on the weight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd3TWSgegaw
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 2354. Wiring or repeater housing for telephony or rail signalling cables,
> probably a repeater housing. Its presurised with N2 or air, when the
> associated in-ground cables are cut/nicked the leaking gas stops water
> ingress. Low pressure switches are installed to provide alarm contacts to
> alert technicians that the cable pressure has fallen. One system was
> called CPAS - "cable pressure alarm system". Pressure also keeps water out
> of the housing.
I saw this when I was driving in the country a few weeks ago, I never see
them in the city, maybe there they are all underground.
No verifiable answer yet for the metal box but the rest of the answers have
all been posted:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-407.html#answers
On 9/23/11 5:03 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>> 2354. Wiring or repeater housing for telephony or rail signalling
>> cables, probably a repeater housing. Its presurised with N2 or air,
>> when the associated in-ground cables are cut/nicked the leaking gas
>> stops water ingress. Low pressure switches are installed to provide
>> alarm contacts to alert technicians that the cable pressure has
>> fallen. One system was called CPAS - "cable pressure alarm system".
>> Pressure also keeps water out of the housing.
>
>
> I saw this when I was driving in the country a few weeks ago, I never
> see them in the city, maybe there they are all underground.
>
> No verifiable answer yet for the metal box but the rest of the answers
> have all been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-407.html#answers
>
>
>
Do you know what model Planet Jr the cast-iron cultivator went with?
Here's a Planet Jr tractor that doesn't look as if it would fit that
attachment. For that matter, the piece with 6 tines and 2 disks doesn't
appear to be attached.
http://www.smokstak.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=10168&catid=newimages
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-407.html#answers
>>
>>
>>
> Do you know what model Planet Jr the cast-iron cultivator went with?
> Here's a Planet Jr tractor that doesn't look as if it would fit that
> attachment. For that matter, the piece with 6 tines and 2 disks doesn't
> appear to be attached.
>
> http://www.smokstak.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=10168&catid=newimages
I don't know what model it went with, on the top of it were the words Planet
Jr though I shopped them out before posting the image. The company has been
around quite a long time so I'm sure they've had a lot of different models.
> 2357) You could likely determine what was in the tanks by unscrewing
> a cap and sniffing. Even after that much time, if it had been
> gasoline or kerosene, you should have been ablet to tell by
> smell.
>
> And if it was some kind of attractant, you could tell by that
> too. But if it had an attractant, I don't see the need for the
> door. That would give neither the access needed for relocating
> a swam into a new beehive, nor for smoking them to make them
> docile.
I sent the owner an email about five days ago asking to check the small
tanks for any type of odor but haven't heard back from him. I'm not 100%
behind the swarm catcher theory, but I haven't heard any better ideas for
it. I've shown it to a lot of farmers but none of them recognized it.
"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:31e4ec4e-a25c-4fde-8872-5e3da82e5983@j19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> 2357 - Rather than an attractant device, it may be a repellant
> device. Fruit tree growers, long ago, here, would fill small bottles
> with kerosene, put a cloth wick in the top and hang them in their
> trees to keep bugs from the fruit, especially plum and peach trees,
> where the plum curculio (insect) would ruin the fruit before it
> ripened. The odor would repell the insects. Maybe this box device
> had a similar repellant purpose.
>
> Sonny
I'll add this to my list of possible answers, though I'm not sure how the
large container fits in with this idea.
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:52:33 -0400
J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
>Do you know what model Planet Jr the cast-iron cultivator went with?
>Here's a Planet Jr tractor that doesn't look as if it would fit that
>attachment. For that matter, the piece with 6 tines and 2 disks doesn't
>appear to be attached.
There is an old Planet Jr catalog at Archive.com. See:
http://www.archive.org/details/cu31924084885676
Look closely at the picture on page 8 (real page 4) in the document at
the accessory pieces laid out. I studied the whole catalog earlier this
morning before looking at the answers and thought that these were
pretty close but not exact...
--
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On 9/24/11 2:59 PM, Steve W. wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-407.html#answers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Do you know what model Planet Jr the cast-iron cultivator went with?
>>> Here's a Planet Jr tractor that doesn't look as if it would fit that
>>> attachment. For that matter, the piece with 6 tines and 2 disks
>>> doesn't appear to be attached.
>>>
>>> http://www.smokstak.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=10168&catid=newimages
>>
>>
>> I don't know what model it went with, on the top of it were the words
>> Planet Jr though I shopped them out before posting the image. The
>> company has been around quite a long time so I'm sure they've had a
>> lot of different models.
>
>
> The item you have pictured is not an attachment for any of the powered
> Planet Jr. tractors. It is the main toolbar for a Planet Jr. single
> wheel hoe.
>
> The front attachment point is where the front wheel mounts. The two on
> the sides are where the handles attach. You could attach
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_euq4iPQ9iQk/S8BP6CQdaPI/AAAAAAAAB30/AeqpqY59hqo/s1600/planet+jr+wheel+hoe+1898.jpg
>
> This is the earlier version but the only difference is the handle
> attachment points. They were changed around 1916
>
> This is the later unit.
> http://www.gnry.net/lookingback/1916/19160412d.jpg
>
The later unit resembles it, but I see important differences. In Rob's
photo, I see only one bolt hole for each handle. Wouldn't they swing?
In Rob's photo, I see two and maybe three "axle" holes. On a wheel hoe,
why would anyone want to change the height of the wheel? It looks as if
the wheel would be way off center. It looks to me as if a second arm
has been snapped off. In that case, the axle would be perhaps 8" long
between the arms. Why would the wheel on a hoe be so wide?
Planet Jr used to make wheel hoes and one-horse cultivators. By 1920
the company saw a market for walking tractors because many gardeners had
sold their horses and bought cars. They spent ten years researching and
produced their first tractor in 1930.
They said it was intended to do anything a farmer could do with one
horse except plow a field that had not been cultivated.
They had favored cast iron for wheel-hoe implements but used steel for
tractor implements because the weight of the tractor would snap cast
iron if it hit a rock. Rob's photo shows steel tines on a cast iron
frame. If this was from a 1930s walking tractor, they probably switched
to steel frames later.
I wish I knew where to find photos of 1930s Planet Jr tractors and
implements.
On 9/24/11 12:58 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-407.html#answers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Do you know what model Planet Jr the cast-iron cultivator went with?
>> Here's a Planet Jr tractor that doesn't look as if it would fit that
>> attachment. For that matter, the piece with 6 tines and 2 disks
>> doesn't appear to be attached.
>>
>> http://www.smokstak.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=10168&catid=newimages
>
>
> I don't know what model it went with, on the top of it were the words
> Planet Jr though I shopped them out before posting the image. The
> company has been around quite a long time so I'm sure they've had a lot
> of different models.
Here's the frame of a wheel hoe. The mystery item seems to have the
same teeth but an entirely different frame.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=170701497298
OTOH, here's a walking tractor from about 1943. The cultivator frame
and teeth are nothing like the mystery item.
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85530
I wonder about the models the company produced in the 1930s.
On 9/25/11 1:22 AM, Steve W. wrote:
> J Burns wrote:
>
> It is a human powered item not an attachment. There is a company that
> makes a NEW version of the same tool. They work well (I know of a few
> Amish farms with them) But they are not something I want to push around
> much.
>
>>
>> I wish I knew where to find photos of 1930s Planet Jr tractors and
>> implements.
>
>
I haven't found any photos of a wheel hoe with a similar attachment.
Here's a similar attachment on an unidentified Planet Jr tractor. The
four-point hitch looks the same. Rob's mystery item would allow more
choice about where to put the blades and might allow things other than
chisels to be attached.
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/5498352/hr/1491272855/name/n_a
On 9/27/11 3:18 AM, J Burns wrote:
> On 9/25/11 1:22 AM, Steve W. wrote:
>> J Burns wrote:
>
>>
>> It is a human powered item not an attachment. There is a company that
>> makes a NEW version of the same tool. They work well (I know of a few
>> Amish farms with them) But they are not something I want to push around
>> much.
>>
>>>
>>> I wish I knew where to find photos of 1930s Planet Jr tractors and
>>> implements.
>>
>>
> I haven't found any photos of a wheel hoe with a similar attachment.
>
> Here's a similar attachment on an unidentified Planet Jr tractor. The
> four-point hitch looks the same. Rob's mystery item would allow more
> choice about where to put the blades and might allow things other than
> chisels to be attached.
> http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/5498352/hr/1491272855/name/n_a
I've learned more. Planet Jr teeth would fit other brands. The tractor
in the photo may have been a Howard tiller, from England.
> 2357) You could likely determine what was in the tanks by unscrewing
> a cap and sniffing. Even after that much time, if it had been
> gasoline or kerosene, you should have been ablet to tell by
> smell.
>
> And if it was some kind of attractant, you could tell by that
> too. But if it had an attractant, I don't see the need for the
> door. That would give neither the access needed for relocating
> a swam into a new beehive, nor for smoking them to make them
> docile.
I just heard back from the owner of the tin container, I had asked him to
see if there was any smell in it or the tubes and he said there was none.
I forgot to mention earlier that I'll be posting on Wednesday this week
instead of Thursday.
On 9/27/11 10:47 AM, Steve W. wrote:
> J Burns wrote:
>> On 9/27/11 3:18 AM, J Burns wrote:
>>> On 9/25/11 1:22 AM, Steve W. wrote:
>>>> J Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is a human powered item not an attachment. There is a company that
>>>> makes a NEW version of the same tool. They work well (I know of a few
>>>> Amish farms with them) But they are not something I want to push around
>>>> much.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish I knew where to find photos of 1930s Planet Jr tractors and
>>>>> implements.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I haven't found any photos of a wheel hoe with a similar attachment.
>>>
>>> Here's a similar attachment on an unidentified Planet Jr tractor. The
>>> four-point hitch looks the same. Rob's mystery item would allow more
>>> choice about where to put the blades and might allow things other than
>>> chisels to be attached.
>>> http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/5498352/hr/1491272855/name/n_a
>>
>> I've learned more. Planet Jr teeth would fit other brands. The tractor
>> in the photo may have been a Howard tiller, from England.
>
> It is a Planet Jr. push wheel hoe. NOT an attachment for ANY powered
> equipment. Simple as that.
> The various teeth shown in the pictures I posted all bolt in place on
> the frame Rob posted. You remove one item and attach another as needed.
>
Do you have any particular model in mind? I checked with a group of
Planet Jr collectors. Two said it might have come from a No. 4 push
hoe/rake/cultivator/seeder.
I found several photos of No. 4s, assembled and disassembled. I found
the description and drawing in the 1897 Sears Catalog. The distinctive
feature was that the tool bar could be unbolted and replaced with the
seeder. Thus, the frame ended a couple of inches behind the wheel. On
Rob's item, the tool bar is not detachable. It can't be a No. 4.
(I found out why some No. 4s were drawn with only one wheel arm. The
second arm bolted on. Rob's doesn't have a place to bolt an arm.)
The owner of an antique garden tractor group told me Planet Jr made
hardware to attach to various brands of tractors. He couldn't identify
what tractor Rob's hardware was made for.
On 9/29/11 5:33 PM, Steve W. wrote:
> J Burns wrote:
>> Do you have any particular model in mind? I checked with a group of
>> Planet Jr collectors. Two said it might have come from a No. 4 push
>> hoe/rake/cultivator/seeder.
>
> It's not a No.4 That had a different toolbar.
>
> I believe it is a model 17 from around 1900-1906. Before they switched
> from cast iron tool-bars to stamped steel
>
> I have a 1922 and a 1945 catalog but that was after they switched to
> stamped steel parts.
>
> This is the correct item in this picture but I haven't found it in my
> catalogs yet.
> http://www.gnry.net/lookingback/1916/19160412d.jpg
This looks just like the picture in the 1903 Sears Catalog. It says the
No. 16, No. 17, and No. 18 used the same frame and handles.
The tool bar isn't shown very well, so the best clue is the wheel
mounting. The wheel is between two arms. The arm is tapered and looks
more slender than the one on the mystery item. It has only one axle hole.
The arm appears to be close to and parallel to the center line. That is
clear in photos of later versions of the 16/17/18, with steel arms. The
arm of the mystery item extends away from the center line. If it were
for a wheel, it would be a wheel with a hub much wider than its rim.
To me, the arm in the 1903 catalog looks quite different than the arm on
the mystery item.
>
> http://cultivatortoday.info/?s=Garden+Cultivator+Ad
>
> This is the version just before it I believe. Note the cast in handle
> stays while the other one has bolt through handles.
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_euq4iPQ9iQk/S8BP6CQdaPI/AAAAAAAAB30/AeqpqY59hqo/s1600/planet+jr+wheel+hoe+1898.jpg
>
Ted Schuerzinger wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 05:27:48 -0400, Steve W. wrote:
>
>> 2354 - remote sensor box?
>
> In a pressurized container that says "wax pressure" on it?
That's 'MAX'.
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> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
2354: A pressurized telephone cable splice housing (you can see the cables
entering in the bottom). The can is sealed and pressurized with dry
nitrogen which makes its way inside the underground cables and forces any
water out through the inevitable pin hole.
2358: Two links from a tank or caterpillar track.
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:57:42 -0400, J Burns <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 9/22/11 5:13 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sep 21, 10:10 pm, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>2355 By the spade points, I'd call it a chisel plow. It looks too big
>and deep for human power, but not as big or deep as one drawn by a
>tractor.
>
>A piece is broken off. It looks as if it was hitched with no "hinge" to
>allow turning. Steering the towing vehicle would put a lot of stress on
>the plow.
>
>I wonder if it was for a two-wheeled garden tractor. The rigid hitch
>would help keep the tractor straight if one wheel lost traction. To
>turn, you would raise the plow by tipping the tractor forward.
From RCM. A horse drawn potato scuffler to work up the soil between
the hills, offset to work close to the plants while the horse stayed
in the center of the row. it was guided by the operator walking behind
by means of handles similar to a plow fastened to the raised potions
toward the front. each row got two passes then the pattern was rotated
90 degrees so that each hill was worked on four sides.
See: http://pilgrim.ceredigion.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=1507
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
Well, I think correct answers have been posted for all but 2353 and 2357.
Since I have no clue for 2357, I'll guess on 2353.
I can't see a means of driving the disk, but if there is one, it could be
a nut cracker or sheller. I've seen smaller versions very similar to this
device that were hand cranked nut crackers or shellers.
WayneJ
On 2011-09-22, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2353) An interesting, and puzzling device.
Obviously intended to rotate.
The look of the edge suggests that it has not been towed along
rolling on a surface.
The raised ridges are not shaped to act as cutters of any sort.
Both sides have the outer row of ridges tilted to point CCW when
viewed from that side, so they are pointing in opposite
directions.
There is no obvious provision for applying power to the axle to
spin it.
So -- it must be spun by a stream of whatever -- perhaps grain
which hits it. Or perhaps water under pressure -- serving as
some form of irrigation sprinkler.
At about 30" diameter, and what appears to be 1" thick, it must
be significantly heavy. About 0.13 cubic feet -- I would have
expected more before calculating.
2354) O.K. -- the "Buried Cable" marking below it supports my initial
thought. Cables -- in particular telephone cables, were at one
time fed pressurized neutral gasses such as nitrogen to keep any
leaks from letting water in.
Usually, there is a compressed gas tank and regulator connected
to the cable every so many miles. This would appear to be
something else, perhaps a splice box to give access for
maintenance (once the pressure is removed).
2355) Some form of cultivating plowshare. It bolts either to a hose-drawn
plow or to a tractor. Not a hand-pushed plow, because the
offset would make it unbalanced and difficult to push.
2356) 7-day barograph (recording barometer). A wind-up spring to drive
the drum. I'm not quite sure what the dome is for, however.
2357) Some sort of oven for perhaps heat curing something. Not hot
enough for heat treating metals however.
There are two tanks with edge-fed wicks below them designed for
heating the walls of the enclosure. (It *might* be that this
would be a very smoky flame, in which case it could be used as
a "smudge pot" for protecting orchards from freezing.
2358) Two sections of a tank tread for use on paved roads. An
earth-moving machine (bulldozer or the like) would have blades
which would dig into the soil, but which would also damage paved
road surfaces.
Now to post this, and then see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
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On 2011-09-22, Ted Schuerzinger <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 05:27:48 -0400, Steve W. wrote:
>
>> 2354 - remote sensor box?
>
> In a pressurized container that says "wax pressure" on it?
That is "max" not "wax" -- Maximum (safe) pressure.
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On 2011-09-23, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>> 2354. Wiring or repeater housing for telephony or rail signalling cables,
>> probably a repeater housing. Its presurised with N2 or air, when the
>> associated in-ground cables are cut/nicked the leaking gas stops water
>> ingress. Low pressure switches are installed to provide alarm contacts to
>> alert technicians that the cable pressure has fallen. One system was
>> called CPAS - "cable pressure alarm system". Pressure also keeps water out
>> of the housing.
>
>
> I saw this when I was driving in the country a few weeks ago, I never see
> them in the city, maybe there they are all underground.
Likely.
> No verifiable answer yet for the metal box but the rest of the answers have
> all been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-407.html#answers
Hmm ... some comments:
2353) This means that you did not show the back side, but two shots of
the front side, while I thought that you were walking all the
way around it taking photos from all angles, thus my comment
about there being no obvious way to drive it.
2357) You could likely determine what was in the tanks by unscrewing
a cap and sniffing. Even after that much time, if it had been
gasoline or kerosene, you should have been ablet to tell by
smell.
And if it was some kind of attractant, you could tell by that
too. But if it had an attractant, I don't see the need for the
door. That would give neither the access needed for relocating
a swam into a new beehive, nor for smoking them to make them
docile.
Enjoy,
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On 2011-09-24, Robin Halligan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 22 Sep 2011 20:15:47 GMT, DoN. Nichols wrote:
[ ... ]
>> 2354) O.K. -- the "Buried Cable" marking below it supports my initial
>> thought. Cables -- in particular telephone cables, were at one
>> time fed pressurized neutral gasses such as nitrogen to keep any
>> leaks from letting water in.
>>
>> Usually, there is a compressed gas tank and regulator connected
>> to the cable every so many miles. This would appear to be
>> something else, perhaps a splice box to give access for
>> maintenance (once the pressure is removed).
>
>
> I was thinking it could be ab alarm box to A sensor connected to the cable
> if the pressur drops past a certen point it would send a signal to the
> exchange that that cable has developed a leak or has been damages an a crew
> is sent out to check and fix, easy if the damage is obvious a pain in the
> But if not (been their done that)
O.K. That makes sense. Out of curiosity -- how do you drain
the pressure prior to opening it? I did not see a bleeder valve
obvious. Granted, if there were a major leak between the tank and the
alarm box, that would not be a problem -- but if you need to replace the
sensor (or recalibrate it) in the absence of a significant leak, that
could be a pain -- you would have to send someone else to the upstream
and downstream tanks to shut off the valves -- and presumably to operate
bleed valves there, too.
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On 2011-09-25, Robin Halligan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 25 Sep 2011 00:12:39 GMT, DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
>> On 2011-09-24, Robin Halligan <[email protected]> wrote:
[ ... ]
>>> I was thinking it could be ab alarm box to A sensor connected to the cable
>>> if the pressur drops past a certen point it would send a signal to the
>>> exchange that that cable has developed a leak or has been damages an a crew
>>> is sent out to check and fix, easy if the damage is obvious a pain in the
>>> But if not (been their done that)
>>
>> O.K. That makes sense. Out of curiosity -- how do you drain
>> the pressure prior to opening it? I did not see a bleeder valve
>> obvious. Granted, if there were a major leak between the tank and the
>> alarm box, that would not be a problem -- but if you need to replace the
>> sensor (or recalibrate it) in the absence of a significant leak, that
>> could be a pain -- you would have to send someone else to the upstream
>> and downstream tanks to shut off the valves -- and presumably to operate
>> bleed valves there, too.
[ ... ]
> Usally there was a valve (here in New Zealand we had the same type as on a
> car tire) you would bleed the air out do the biz then remove the valve from
> the valve stem and replace the top and seal then replace the valve and if
> necessary you could bring it back up to pressure with a tank on the
> vehicle,
> Anoter thought has struck me it could have been a loading coil pot as well
> some time in the Long runs every now and then you had to put loading coils
> and a check finds this
>
> http://davewhitmore.net/Images/field.htm
>
> About half way down the page.
In particular:
< http://davewhitmore.net/Images/field/SanibelRepeater2.jpg>
which has the same pressure warning markings, though it is a slightly
taller container, and it appears to be a repeater in there, based on the
stick-on letters.
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>I need some help with the unusual metal box in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2354. Wiring or repeater housing for telephony or rail signalling cables,
probably a repeater housing. Its presurised with N2 or air, when the
associated in-ground cables are cut/nicked the leaking gas stops water
ingress. Low pressure switches are installed to provide alarm contacts to
alert technicians that the cable pressure has fallen. One system was called
CPAS - "cable pressure alarm system". Pressure also keeps water out of the
housing.
2356. Records solar radiation intensity.
2358. Vehicle tracks - earthmoving or military.
J Burns wrote:
> On 9/24/11 2:59 PM, Steve W. wrote:
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>
>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-407.html#answers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Do you know what model Planet Jr the cast-iron cultivator went with?
>>>> Here's a Planet Jr tractor that doesn't look as if it would fit that
>>>> attachment. For that matter, the piece with 6 tines and 2 disks
>>>> doesn't appear to be attached.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.smokstak.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=10168&catid=newimages
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know what model it went with, on the top of it were the words
>>> Planet Jr though I shopped them out before posting the image. The
>>> company has been around quite a long time so I'm sure they've had a
>>> lot of different models.
>>
>>
>> The item you have pictured is not an attachment for any of the powered
>> Planet Jr. tractors. It is the main toolbar for a Planet Jr. single
>> wheel hoe.
>>
>> The front attachment point is where the front wheel mounts. The two on
>> the sides are where the handles attach. You could attach
>> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_euq4iPQ9iQk/S8BP6CQdaPI/AAAAAAAAB30/AeqpqY59hqo/s1600/planet+jr+wheel+hoe+1898.jpg
>>
>>
>> This is the earlier version but the only difference is the handle
>> attachment points. They were changed around 1916
>>
>> This is the later unit.
>> http://www.gnry.net/lookingback/1916/19160412d.jpg
>>
> The later unit resembles it, but I see important differences. In Rob's
> photo, I see only one bolt hole for each handle. Wouldn't they swing?
Look closer the bottom hole is a blind one with threads in it.
>
> In Rob's photo, I see two and maybe three "axle" holes. On a wheel hoe,
> why would anyone want to change the height of the wheel? It looks as if
> the wheel would be way off center. It looks to me as if a second arm
> has been snapped off. In that case, the axle would be perhaps 8" long
> between the arms. Why would the wheel on a hoe be so wide?
The wheel is about 2" wide on the single wheel. The hub is a simple ball
bearing type. When it is in place it sets centered on the tool.
The extra holes are so that you can adjust wheel up/down. This allows
you to adjust the handle height to a more useful angle. It also adjust
the tool cut to allow for better cultivating.
>
> Planet Jr used to make wheel hoes and one-horse cultivators. By 1920
> the company saw a market for walking tractors because many gardeners had
> sold their horses and bought cars. They spent ten years researching and
> produced their first tractor in 1930.
The company made a lot of things for the small gardener truck farmer. I
have three different ones myself.
>
> They said it was intended to do anything a farmer could do with one
> horse except plow a field that had not been cultivated.
They are a working beast IF you have the right soil. Heavy clay soils
are NO fun with them.
>
> They had favored cast iron for wheel-hoe implements but used steel for
> tractor implements because the weight of the tractor would snap cast
> iron if it hit a rock. Rob's photo shows steel tines on a cast iron
> frame. If this was from a 1930s walking tractor, they probably switched
> to steel frames later.
It is a human powered item not an attachment. There is a company that
makes a NEW version of the same tool. They work well (I know of a few
Amish farms with them) But they are not something I want to push around
much.
>
> I wish I knew where to find photos of 1930s Planet Jr tractors and
> implements.
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J Burns wrote:
> On 9/22/11 8:09 AM, Snag wrote:
>> Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
>>> Ted Schuerzinger<[email protected]> fired this volley in
>>> news:907gm6vmsdwy [email protected]:
>>>
>>>> In a pressurized container that says "wax pressure" on it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've seen dyslexia, but never INVERTIA.
>>>
>>> MAX pressure... It's a reservoir for pressurizing cable housings.
>>>
>>> LLoyd
>>
>> Yup , keeps ground water out of the underground telephone cable
>> sheathing .
>
> Who grinds water nowadays?
I do if it's cold enough . Makes great snocones !
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 06:49:09 -0500, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> Ted Schuerzinger <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:907gm6vmsdwy
> [email protected]:
>
>> In a pressurized container that says "wax pressure" on it?
>>
>
> I've seen dyslexia, but never INVERTIA.
>
> MAX pressure...
[insert expletive here]
I tried blowing the image up, and that M is a bit blurry. No wonder why
I had no idea what the container is for. :-)
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J Burns wrote:
> On 9/27/11 3:18 AM, J Burns wrote:
>> On 9/25/11 1:22 AM, Steve W. wrote:
>>> J Burns wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It is a human powered item not an attachment. There is a company that
>>> makes a NEW version of the same tool. They work well (I know of a few
>>> Amish farms with them) But they are not something I want to push around
>>> much.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wish I knew where to find photos of 1930s Planet Jr tractors and
>>>> implements.
>>>
>>>
>> I haven't found any photos of a wheel hoe with a similar attachment.
>>
>> Here's a similar attachment on an unidentified Planet Jr tractor. The
>> four-point hitch looks the same. Rob's mystery item would allow more
>> choice about where to put the blades and might allow things other than
>> chisels to be attached.
>> http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/5498352/hr/1491272855/name/n_a
>
> I've learned more. Planet Jr teeth would fit other brands. The tractor
> in the photo may have been a Howard tiller, from England.
It is a Planet Jr. push wheel hoe. NOT an attachment for ANY powered
equipment. Simple as that.
The various teeth shown in the pictures I posted all bolt in place on
the frame Rob posted. You remove one item and attach another as needed.
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Steve W.