JC

"J. Clarke"

08/02/2011 8:57 PM

20 buck Jorgensen Miter Box--just say no

Needed a portable miter box (really don't want to lug a miter saw around
for four pieces of molding, but it's a furniture repair so it has to be
a tight miter), was gonna make one for the Dozuki but saw a Jorgensen in
Home Despot for 20 bucks (it's not on the Web site otherwise I'd post
the link) and figured how bad could it be.

Well, the answer is pretty bad. I took it home, set it up, and tried
some trial cuts. The saw's not particularly sharp, the guides aren't
quite parallel so the saw doesn't want to go all the way down to the
bottom of the cut, the 45 degree angle seems to be more like 44, but
it's hard to tell because there are a couple of degrees of slop in the
detent, the clamp that holds the workpiece is a joke (especially coming
from a company that specializes in clamps), the thing is so light that
you have to hold it in place with your other hand, and there's no
support anywhere near the cutline. Not the tool for getting a well-
fitted joint. I mean I've gotten better miters following a pencil line
with a jigsaw.

Manana I do it right and this POS goes back to Home Despot.



This topic has 8 replies

Sk

Steve

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 08/02/2011 8:57 PM

10/02/2011 10:15 PM

On 2011-02-10 03:36:58 -0500, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> said:

> That was the plan however if I could avoid work for 20 bucks it was worthwhile.
>
> And I'm not seeing Upscale's post, however much thanks to him--I did
> not know that there was a baby Nobex available for that kind of
> price--that puts it in the same ballpark as the Nobex clones from
> Stanley and Empire--the Jorgensen is clearly a poorly executed knockoff
> of that model.

There's a nice-looking Dozuki miter box plan in the latest ShopNotes
(#115). It's set up and indexed only for 45 degree cuts, but a guy
handy with a protracter or dividers ought to be able to do something
about that.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 08/02/2011 8:57 PM

10/02/2011 3:36 AM

In article <[email protected]>, tiredofspam
says...
>
> Hmmm. why not make your own. Just use a decent combo square or triangle
> and make your own for your Dozuki.
> It would fit the blade better and be usable over and over.

That was the plan however if I could avoid work for 20 bucks it was
worthwhile.

And I'm not seeing Upscale's post, however much thanks to him--I did not
know that there was a baby Nobex available for that kind of price--that
puts it in the same ballpark as the Nobex clones from Stanley and
Empire--the Jorgensen is clearly a poorly executed knockoff of that
model.

> On 2/9/2011 5:33 AM, Upscale wrote:
> > "J. Clarke"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> Needed a portable miter box (really don't want to lug a miter saw around
> >> for four pieces of molding, but it's a furniture repair so it has to be
> >> a tight miter), was gonna make one for the Dozuki but saw a Jorgensen in
> >
> > You already know your hardware so basically, it's up to you how much you
> > want to spend. Two years ago, I bought Lee Valley's mid range miter box and
> > it's operated outstandingly ever since. LV sells three models in this line
> > and their least expensive model, (just a little smaller, not less accurate)
> > sells for $45 in case that interests you.
> > http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=52321&cat=1,42884,43836
> >
> >

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 08/02/2011 8:57 PM

11/02/2011 6:16 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 2011-02-10 03:36:58 -0500, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> said:
>
> > That was the plan however if I could avoid work for 20 bucks it was worthwhile.
> >
> > And I'm not seeing Upscale's post, however much thanks to him--I did
> > not know that there was a baby Nobex available for that kind of
> > price--that puts it in the same ballpark as the Nobex clones from
> > Stanley and Empire--the Jorgensen is clearly a poorly executed knockoff
> > of that model.
>
> There's a nice-looking Dozuki miter box plan in the latest ShopNotes
> (#115). It's set up and indexed only for 45 degree cuts, but a guy
> handy with a protracter or dividers ought to be able to do something
> about that.

Have to take a look at that and see if it improves on what I had in
mind. All is on hold for a bit though--slipped on an ice patch
yesterday and right now it hurts to move just about anything. Don't
think I did any serious damage--was able to carry around a bag of tube
sand immediately after--but it's distracting enough that right now
trying to do any kind of precision work is probably a bad idea.

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 08/02/2011 8:57 PM

09/02/2011 9:32 PM

Hmmm. why not make your own. Just use a decent combo square or triangle
and make your own for your Dozuki.
It would fit the blade better and be usable over and over.

On 2/9/2011 5:33 AM, Upscale wrote:
> "J. Clarke"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Needed a portable miter box (really don't want to lug a miter saw around
>> for four pieces of molding, but it's a furniture repair so it has to be
>> a tight miter), was gonna make one for the Dozuki but saw a Jorgensen in
>
> You already know your hardware so basically, it's up to you how much you
> want to spend. Two years ago, I bought Lee Valley's mid range miter box and
> it's operated outstandingly ever since. LV sells three models in this line
> and their least expensive model, (just a little smaller, not less accurate)
> sells for $45 in case that interests you.
> http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=52321&cat=1,42884,43836
>
>

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 08/02/2011 8:57 PM

09/02/2011 5:33 AM


"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Needed a portable miter box (really don't want to lug a miter saw around
> for four pieces of molding, but it's a furniture repair so it has to be
> a tight miter), was gonna make one for the Dozuki but saw a Jorgensen in

You already know your hardware so basically, it's up to you how much you
want to spend. Two years ago, I bought Lee Valley's mid range miter box and
it's operated outstandingly ever since. LV sells three models in this line
and their least expensive model, (just a little smaller, not less accurate)
sells for $45 in case that interests you.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=52321&cat=1,42884,43836

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 08/02/2011 8:57 PM

09/02/2011 10:53 AM

Sometimes, simple is better:

http://tinyurl.com/47wqaqv

On 2/8/2011 8:57 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> Needed a portable miter box (really don't want to lug a miter saw around
> for four pieces of molding, but it's a furniture repair so it has to be
> a tight miter)

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 08/02/2011 8:57 PM

09/02/2011 9:52 PM

On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 20:57:08 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:

> Needed a portable miter box (really don't want to lug a miter saw around
> for four pieces of molding, but it's a furniture repair so it has to be
> a tight miter), was gonna make one for the Dozuki but saw a Jorgensen in
> Home Despot for 20 bucks (it's not on the Web site otherwise I'd post
> the link) and figured how bad could it be.
>
> Well, the answer is pretty bad.

I've got one of these:

<http://cgi.ebay.com/Goodell-miter-box-w-sharpened-H-Disston-and-Sons-
saw-/170600691990>

and no, I didn't pay $150 for it :-). But it works like a champ - so
well that I gave away the old Craftsman miter box that I'd had for
decades.


--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

BL

"Bob La Londe"

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 08/02/2011 8:57 PM

25/02/2011 8:23 AM

"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Needed a portable miter box (really don't want to lug a miter saw around
> for four pieces of molding, but it's a furniture repair so it has to be
> a tight miter), was gonna make one for the Dozuki but saw a Jorgensen in
> Home Despot for 20 bucks (it's not on the Web site otherwise I'd post
> the link) and figured how bad could it be.
>
> Well, the answer is pretty bad. I took it home, set it up, and tried
> some trial cuts. The saw's not particularly sharp, the guides aren't
> quite parallel so the saw doesn't want to go all the way down to the
> bottom of the cut, the 45 degree angle seems to be more like 44, but
> it's hard to tell because there are a couple of degrees of slop in the
> detent, the clamp that holds the workpiece is a joke (especially coming
> from a company that specializes in clamps), the thing is so light that
> you have to hold it in place with your other hand, and there's no
> support anywhere near the cutline. Not the tool for getting a well-
> fitted joint. I mean I've gotten better miters following a pencil line
> with a jigsaw.
>
> Manana I do it right and this POS goes back to Home Despot.


Best miter box I ever got was made out aluminum and came with one of this
little hobby kits. I still have it, but I can't find the saw that came with
it, and its way too small for a regular backsaw. For most quick and dirty
work one of those cheap plastic ones seems to work fine. I actually prefer
them over my Hitachi miter saw. Maybe its just my choice of blades.


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