RS

Ron S

12/04/2010 9:38 AM

Which Planer


I have been renting a house for a while and in an apartment for the
last year and my tools have been packed up in storage. In another week
I am closing on a house and finally get to set my shop back up. I used
to have a DW734 and hated it. Too much snipe and just never felt good
about it.....so I sold it, and now I need to replace it. I've been
looking at the DW735 and have heard great things about it. Was
recently looking at reviews and almost everyone complained about the
noise level. Some said that even with hearing protection it was too
loud.

With that said, I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the
DW735 and what they think of the noise level. I live alone so I'm only
worried about my ears, not bothering anyone else. I'd be particularly
interested in hearing from people who have the DW735 but have used
other planers to get a comparison.

I have also heard that switching between speeds is a bit tricky so any
thoughts on that?

And as a last request, if anyone is happy with their planer (non-
DW735) and think they get high quality results, please let me know. I
was considering the Delta as an alternative.

Thanks


This topic has 34 replies

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 7:24 PM


"Ron S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I have been renting a house for a while and in an apartment for the
> last year and my tools have been packed up in storage. In another week
> I am closing on a house and finally get to set my shop back up. I used
> to have a DW734 and hated it. Too much snipe and just never felt good
> about it.....so I sold it, and now I need to replace it. I've been
> looking at the DW735 and have heard great things about it. Was
> recently looking at reviews and almost everyone complained about the
> noise level. Some said that even with hearing protection it was too
> loud.
>
> With that said, I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the
> DW735 and what they think of the noise level. I live alone so I'm only
> worried about my ears, not bothering anyone else. I'd be particularly
> interested in hearing from people who have the DW735 but have used
> other planers to get a comparison.
>
> I have also heard that switching between speeds is a bit tricky so any
> thoughts on that?
>
> And as a last request, if anyone is happy with their planer (non-
> DW735) and think they get high quality results, please let me know. I
> was considering the Delta as an alternative.


Why not spend a few hundred more and get a Grizzley stationary planer? The
DeWalts are way over priced IMHO.

kk

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 9:52 AM

On Apr 12, 11:38=A0am, Ron S <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have been renting a house for a while and in an apartment for the
> last year and my tools have been packed up in storage. In another week
> I am closing on a house and finally get to set my shop back up. I used
> to have a DW734 and hated it. Too much snipe and just never felt good
> about it.....so I sold it, and now I need to replace it. I've been
> looking at the DW735 and have heard great things about it. Was
> recently looking at reviews and almost everyone complained about the
> noise level. Some said that even with hearing protection it was too
> loud.

I have a DW735 but don't use ear protection around it. I'd likely use
muffs if I were going to run it all day, but I wouldn't much enjoy
putting 1000bf through it anyway. ;-)

> With that said, I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the
> DW735 and what they think of the noise level. I live alone so I'm only
> worried about my ears, not bothering anyone else. I'd be particularly
> interested in hearing from people who have the DW735 but have used
> other planers to get a comparison.

No help. I like the DW735, though. I have it mounted on a Delta
planer/miter saw stand. Works out great.

> I have also heard that switching between speeds is a bit tricky so any
> thoughts on that?

Tricky? It's a simple lever.

> And as a last request, if anyone is happy with their planer (non-
> DW735) and think they get high quality results, please let me know. I
> was considering the Delta as an alternative.
>
> Thanks

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 1:12 PM

> Mine is a Canwood. =A0Basically the same as Pioneer but branded for the
> canadian market. =A0Seems to be essentially identical to the Jet JWP-15HH=
.
>
> Chris

Hmm, haven't heard of either brand but did look at the Jet (just now).
Have you done any adjustment with the bed rollers and how is that
working out? That is my biggest grip withthese mid range planers. They
could be such better machines with better bed roll adjustment
capabilities.

NB

Neil Brooks

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 8:00 AM

On Apr 12, 8:11=A0pm, "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ron S wrote:
>
> > I have been renting a house for a while and in an apartment for the
> > last year and my tools have been packed up in storage. In another week
> > I am closing on a house and finally get to set my shop back up. I used
> > to have a DW734 and hated it. Too much snipe and just never felt good
> > about it.....so I sold it, and now I need to replace it. I've been
> > looking at the DW735 and have heard great things about it. Was
> > recently looking at reviews and almost everyone complained about the
> > noise level. Some said that even with hearing protection it was too
> > loud.
>
> > With that said, I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the
> > DW735 and what they think of the noise level. I live alone so I'm only
> > worried about my ears, not bothering anyone else. I'd be particularly
> > interested in hearing from people who have the DW735 but have used
> > other planers to get a comparison.
>
> > I have also heard that switching between speeds is a bit tricky so any
> > thoughts on that?
>
> > And as a last request, if anyone is happy with their planer (non-
> > DW735) and think they get high quality results, please let me know. I
> > was considering the Delta as an alternative.
>
> > Thanks
>
> I read a review of planers a couple of issues back in the one of the wood
> working mags and the Ridgid came out as the third best but the most
> economical. =A0Being married to a "downeaster scot" that was an important
> consideration. =A0I have never regretted the purchase. =A0It leaves a fin=
ish
> almost as smooth as I could/would sand and the snipe is not bad. =A0
>
> As a tip, I have found that if I give a bit of up pressure on the board a=
s
> it exits the planer snipe almost disappears.
>
> Deb

Maybe a bit lower than third, but ... if this (I have the Ridgid) is
rated that low ... then the ones that rated higher must produce float
glass on the outfeed side ;-)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_WVVYjLCNo2w/S8Ibb6rCc6I/AAAAAAAAA9Q/zjkS2e7P18k/s512/=
scan.jpg

RS

Ron S

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 6:14 AM


> Why not spend a few hundred more and get a Grizzly stationary planer? =A0=
The
> DeWalts are way over priced IMHO.

I thought about the Grizzly. I took a shop class a couple years back
and they had a monster 24" planer with steel infeed rollers. You had
to plane something like 1/8" or else it left serrated marks in the
wood. Have always been nervous about the stationary planers and if
they could skim the wood and still leave a clean finish.

Amazon has the DW735 for $549 so going to a Griz would be about double
the price :(

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 10:55 AM

On 04/12/2010 10:38 AM, Ron S wrote:
> I've been
> looking at the DW735 and have heard great things about it. Was
> recently looking at reviews and almost everyone complained about the
> noise level. Some said that even with hearing protection it was too
> loud.

I can't see it being much louder than other planers with universal motors.

The more common complaint I've heard is that the knives dull quickly. I
recently bought a stationary planer with carbide cutterhead. Much
quieter than my old benchtop and less tearout.

Chris

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 2:04 AM

Ron S <[email protected]> wrote in news:e31d5c7d-5ef7-4488-a861-
[email protected]:

>
> I have been renting a house for a while and in an apartment for the
> last year and my tools have been packed up in storage. In another week
> I am closing on a house and finally get to set my shop back up. I used
> to have a DW734 and hated it. Too much snipe and just never felt good
> about it.....so I sold it, and now I need to replace it. I've been
> looking at the DW735 and have heard great things about it. Was
> recently looking at reviews and almost everyone complained about the
> noise level. Some said that even with hearing protection it was too
> loud.
>
> With that said, I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the
> DW735 and what they think of the noise level. I live alone so I'm only
> worried about my ears, not bothering anyone else. I'd be particularly
> interested in hearing from people who have the DW735 but have used
> other planers to get a comparison.
>
> I have also heard that switching between speeds is a bit tricky so any
> thoughts on that?
>
> And as a last request, if anyone is happy with their planer (non-
> DW735) and think they get high quality results, please let me know. I
> was considering the Delta as an alternative.
>
> Thanks
>

Yes, it is loud. Hearing protection is a must, but if you're working
with power tools inside you need hearing protection. I got a pair of
Peltor H10As I use all the time in the shop.

The Shop Vac seems to be about the same loudness, maybe a little quieter
than the 735.

The trickiest thing with the 735 is probably going to be chip collection.
With the diverter installed, it will spew chips all over the shop. Any
kind of bucket you may direct chips in to will probably fly all over the
shop. A decent dust collector (or maybe just a cheapy) will be
essential.

I've only had mine a few days, but it's been good so far. I'll probably
have to build infeed and outfeed tables for it soon. Lowes had just the
DW735 planer (and knives) for down to $550. My local one had it at $535.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 11:32 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ron S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:2c6593bd-0a23-4ac2-9edd-b59cd5a49093@u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Why not spend a few hundred more and get a Grizzly stationary planer? The
>> DeWalts are way over priced IMHO.
>
> I thought about the Grizzly. I took a shop class a couple years back
> and they had a monster 24" planer with steel infeed rollers. You had
> to plane something like 1/8" or else it left serrated marks in the
> wood. Have always been nervous about the stationary planers and if
> they could skim the wood and still leave a clean finish.
>
> The larger stationary planers typically have steel feed rollers that
> create those marks that you mentioned. If the planer you were using had
> to remove 1/8", the planer was seriousely out of adjustment. I have a 15"
> stationary Delta planer and it too will leave the marks however I only
> have to remove about 1/64" to avoid the indentations. The trick is to
> agressively remove material up to about 1/32" and then make a slower final
> pass removing the remaining 1/32" or more material.
>
>
>
> Amazon has the DW735 for $549 so going to a Griz would be about double
> the price :(
>
> You might want to look again, the Griz on the below link is $769
> Delivered! That is only $220 more, has a much higher capacity, and you
> likely will never have to replace the planer again.
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Open-Stand/G0550
>
> Or if you want an enclosed vs. open stand with wheels and 50% more power
> thnn the other Griz you can get the below linked planer for $889
> Delivered! Only $340 more.
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Closed-Stand/G0551
>
> Just something to think about but also consider that fact the knives can
> be resharpened time and again which will quickly whittle down the
> difference in price.
>
>
Hey, I went to the grizzly site and saw that they are now shipping to
Canada!

There has been many complaints in this newsgroup over the years that
Canadians can not buy from grizzly directly. There is brokerage fees, of
course. But grizzly has negotiated fees with a broker to soften the blow.

I thought I would mention it. All those folks who wanted to buy grizzly in
the past have probably already bought something else. Oh, well...


Mt

"Max"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 10:17 AM

"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
> The $2 HF earmuffs work well, too, but I upgraded to their electronic
> muffs. They give you the ambient sound until a loud noise hits, then
> it immediately cuts out, in milli- or microseconds. They're $15 on
> sale quite often and work well at the range. Just me and my tinnitus,
> with the occasional soft pop just before something disintegrates
> downrange.
>
> For hard rock concerts, wear both plugs and muffs and the sound is
> wonderful. ;)

We attended a "Chicago" concert last week. I wore the earplugs.
My wife really enjoyed the performance. {:-(

Max

Mt

"Max"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 10:23 AM

"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ron S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:2c6593bd-0a23-4ac2-9edd-b59cd5a49093@u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Why not spend a few hundred more and get a Grizzly stationary planer? The
>> DeWalts are way over priced IMHO.
>
> I thought about the Grizzly. I took a shop class a couple years back
> and they had a monster 24" planer with steel infeed rollers. You had
> to plane something like 1/8" or else it left serrated marks in the
> wood. Have always been nervous about the stationary planers and if
> they could skim the wood and still leave a clean finish.
>
> The larger stationary planers typically have steel feed rollers that
> create those marks that you mentioned. If the planer you were using had
> to remove 1/8", the planer was seriousely out of adjustment. I have a 15"
> stationary Delta planer and it too will leave the marks however I only
> have to remove about 1/64" to avoid the indentations. The trick is to
> agressively remove material up to about 1/32" and then make a slower final
> pass removing the remaining 1/32" or more material.
>
>
>
> Amazon has the DW735 for $549 so going to a Griz would be about double
> the price :(
>
> You might want to look again, the Griz on the below link is $769
> Delivered! That is only $220 more, has a much higher capacity, and you
> likely will never have to replace the planer again.
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Open-Stand/G0550
>
> Or if you want an enclosed vs. open stand with wheels and 50% more power
> thnn the other Griz you can get the below linked planer for $889
> Delivered! Only $340 more.
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Closed-Stand/G0551

I have this planer:
http://tinyurl.com/y7mje4c

16" Jet.
I just recently planed some 4/4, S2S Red Oak, just to get the mill marks
off. Just skimmed the surface. The boards came out looking great.

Max


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 7:16 PM


"Leon" wrote
> Believe it or not my wife fell asleep during an Eagles concert.
-------------------------------

I can relate.

Lew


Js

"Jack"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 8:20 PM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article
> <[email protected]>, Ron S
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> [...]
>>With that said, I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the
>>DW735 and what they think of the noise level. I live alone so I'm only
>>worried about my ears, not bothering anyone else.
>
> I think it's a loud SOB, definitely the loudest tool in my shop. We live
> in
> town, but the lots are large and the nearest neighbor is about 75 yards
> away,
> and my shop is in the basement. If your shop is in the garage, and your
> next
> door neighbor's house is only 30 feet away, he won't be happy if you're
> running a DW735 early in the morning or late at night.
I live in a townhouse in Northern VA and work in my garage on the ground
floor. My Wife can tolerate the DW735 in the Family Room directly over the
garage, She said the JDSAir Tech 750 dust filter bugs her more. My neighbors
come over and talk any time they catch me in the shop, they have never
commented on noise. One of them does ride a Harley...

>> I'd be particularly
>>interested in hearing from people who have the DW735 but have used
>>other planers to get a comparison.
I'm retired from the Navy and still use the wood shops on the bases (Boling
AFB in DC has a superb shop), so the only comparision is against huge (24
inch) planers. But I'm pretty happy with the performance of the DW735.
Jack

NB

Neil Brooks

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 9:43 AM

On Apr 12, 10:38=A0am, Ron S <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have been renting a house for a while and in an apartment for the
> last year and my tools have been packed up in storage. In another week
> I am closing on a house and finally get to set my shop back up. I used
> to have a DW734 and hated it. Too much snipe and just never felt good
> about it.....so I sold it, and now I need to replace it. I've been
> looking at the DW735 and have heard great things about it. Was
> recently looking at reviews and almost everyone complained about the
> noise level. Some said that even with hearing protection it was too
> loud.
>
> With that said, I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the
> DW735 and what they think of the noise level. I live alone so I'm only
> worried about my ears, not bothering anyone else. I'd be particularly
> interested in hearing from people who have the DW735 but have used
> other planers to get a comparison.
>
> I have also heard that switching between speeds is a bit tricky so any
> thoughts on that?
>
> And as a last request, if anyone is happy with their planer (non-
> DW735) and think they get high quality results, please let me know. I
> was considering the Delta as an alternative.
>
> Thanks

I have the Ridgid 4330, and I get *fantastic* results, but ....

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_WVVYjLCNo2w/S8Ibb6rCc6I/AAAAAAAAA9Q/zjkS2e7P18k/s512/=
scan.jpg

The DW735 is the sweetheart of the benchtop planers. If need be,
stick foam ear plugs IN your ears, and then ear muffs ON your ears.

;-)

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 9:07 AM

>
> What sort of adjustment capabilities were you thinking of? =A0Mine are on
> jack screws so I set them a couple thou above the bed.
>
> Chris

What most of these units have is an ecentric busing at each end with a
set screw. This means you have to get down inside the machine and go
back and forth until you finally get it set evenly at the desired
height. This does in theory make it possible to set them exactly as
you want. The problems being:
- Making a quick adjustment is not really possible
- Once you set them at a given place you usually create a detent in
the bushing so it always wants to settel back to that location of you
reset it.

Yes, setting them a few thou above the table is the correct setting if
you have fairly smooth wood. However, for rougher stock you want to
bump it up to like 10 thou for smooth feeding (at the cost of extra
snipe). This is just not possible with this type of setting. High end
planer have a fine adjustment hand wheel on the front of the unit and
it makes this a breeze. The only folks that have this feature on a
smaller planer that I have seen is Woodtek (woodworkers supply?) on
their 20" for like $2 or $3k I think.

Just my pet peeve. I did see tha the Steel City folks added a little
wing on the end of the shaft of the bed rollers that makes it real
easy to dial in the height but they have the same set screw to busing
lock down mech.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 7:28 PM


"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 04/12/2010 01:44 PM, [email protected] wrote:

>
> Yes, absolutely. I have the Grizzly G0453 planer and the Grizzly G0440
> dust collector. I don't know how many decibels these things kick out
> (Grizzly doesn't say in their data sheets), but it's a LOT, and I would
> think that just turning either machine ON (without running anything
> through them) would be enough noise to warrant ear protection. Because it
> has an induction motor this planer is relatively quiet compared to the
> lunchbox models with universal motors, but that ain't even half the story.
> I don't know what other planers sound like when you hook them up to dust
> collection, but the noise level on this one increases SIGNIFICANTLY when
> that monster collector is sucking air past the spinning knives. The
> planer ROARS when the collector is running (which it always is; running a
> planer without dust collection is madness), and that's before I even start
> milling wood. I can't imagine the hearing damage you would incur if you
> didn't wear ear protection while running a planer...


My stationary Delta is louder when the collector is running and attached.
Still quieter than the typical lunch box and or shop vac. :!)

bb

"basilisk"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

14/04/2010 8:32 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:e3295ae1-e025-40cb-be39-b70ae269c0d8@u34g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 13, 8:09 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > On 04/13/2010 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
> >> Or if you want an enclosed vs. open stand with wheels and 50% more
> >> power
> >> thnn the other Griz you can get the below linked planer for $889
> >> Delivered!
> >> Only $340 more.
>
> >>http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Closed-Stand/G0551
>
> >> Just something to think about but also consider that fact the knives
> >> can
> >> be
> >> resharpened time and again which will quickly whittle down the
> >> difference
> >> in
> >> price.
>
> > Interesting... Grizzly is carrying the G0551 again. My Dad bought that
> > planer a few years ago, but when I decided to spring for a new planer
> > last
> > year the G0551 was missing from the Grizzly lineup, so I bought the
> > G0453
> > instead. I don't regret my decision, but I would probably have the G0551
> > right now if it had been available. I wonder why they dropped that model
> > then brought it back? Incidentally, at its core the G0551 is pretty much
> > a less fancy version of the Delta 22-790X, which these days sells for
> > over
> > $1200.
>
> Strange things happen like that. Last year I bought one of the new Delta
> drill presses, a few months later it could not be found. It has reappeared
> again.

Now that it's back, take the wheels off it.

I've had the same problem with a dewalt csms, turns out my brother is the
culprit.

basilisk

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 10:11 AM


"Ron S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2c6593bd-0a23-4ac2-9edd-b59cd5a49093@u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

> Why not spend a few hundred more and get a Grizzly stationary planer? The
> DeWalts are way over priced IMHO.

I thought about the Grizzly. I took a shop class a couple years back
and they had a monster 24" planer with steel infeed rollers. You had
to plane something like 1/8" or else it left serrated marks in the
wood. Have always been nervous about the stationary planers and if
they could skim the wood and still leave a clean finish.

The larger stationary planers typically have steel feed rollers that create
those marks that you mentioned. If the planer you were using had to remove
1/8", the planer was seriousely out of adjustment. I have a 15" stationary
Delta planer and it too will leave the marks however I only have to remove
about 1/64" to avoid the indentations. The trick is to agressively remove
material up to about 1/32" and then make a slower final pass removing the
remaining 1/32" or more material.



Amazon has the DW735 for $549 so going to a Griz would be about double
the price :(

You might want to look again, the Griz on the below link is $769 Delivered!
That is only $220 more, has a much higher capacity, and you likely will
never have to replace the planer again.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Open-Stand/G0550

Or if you want an enclosed vs. open stand with wheels and 50% more power
thnn the other Griz you can get the below linked planer for $889 Delivered!
Only $340 more.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Closed-Stand/G0551

Just something to think about but also consider that fact the knives can be
resharpened time and again which will quickly whittle down the difference in
price.





CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 1:36 PM

On 04/12/2010 11:01 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>> I
>> recently bought a stationary planer with carbide cutterhead. Much
>> quieter than my old benchtop and less tearout.

> What brand\model?

Mine is a Canwood. Basically the same as Pioneer but branded for the
canadian market. Seems to be essentially identical to the Jet JWP-15HH.

Chris

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 2:37 PM

On 04/12/2010 02:12 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

> Hmm, haven't heard of either brand but did look at the Jet (just now).
> Have you done any adjustment with the bed rollers and how is that
> working out? That is my biggest grip with these mid range planers. They
> could be such better machines with better bed roll adjustment
> capabilities.

What sort of adjustment capabilities were you thinking of? Mine are on
jack screws so I set them a couple thou above the bed.

Chris

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 10:18 AM


"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:26:37 -0500, the infamous "Leon"

>>
>>
>>Believe it or not, the foam plugs you roll up and let expand in your ear
>>cut
>>33 db... I was shocked.
>
> Yeah, they work very well. But don't use the hard foam style, like HF
> sells. they're uncomfortable and don't dampen noise as well. The soft,
> orange plugs in a bell shape work the best for me, installed with the
> wide part of the bell inside. I sleep with earplugs and they don't
> hurt if they're installed backwards like that. I sleep on my side.

My son picked up an 8 or 10 pack at Walgreens for about $4 IIRC, he needed
something that worked well for the NHRA drag races this last week end. He
said they worked well but the roar of the engines would shake the fillings
out of your teeth.


>
> The $2 HF earmuffs work well, too, but I upgraded to their electronic
> muffs. They give you the ambient sound until a loud noise hits, then
> it immediately cuts out, in milli- or microseconds. They're $15 on
> sale quite often and work well at the range. Just me and my tinnitus,
> with the occasional soft pop just before something disintegrates
> downrange.


I still use the same style muffs that you mentioned above as I too want to
hear the regular sounds but cut out the occasional loud noise. I have to
had to spend more for mine to get a pair that will actually fit comfortabley
over a cap. Most ear muff that I put on will not seal properly.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 8:12 PM


"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>
>> The $2 HF earmuffs work well, too, but I upgraded to their electronic
>> muffs. They give you the ambient sound until a loud noise hits, then
>> it immediately cuts out, in milli- or microseconds. They're $15 on
>> sale quite often and work well at the range. Just me and my tinnitus,
>> with the occasional soft pop just before something disintegrates
>> downrange.
>>
>> For hard rock concerts, wear both plugs and muffs and the sound is
>> wonderful. ;)
>
> We attended a "Chicago" concert last week. I wore the earplugs.
> My wife really enjoyed the performance. {:-(
>
> Max


Having attended many more concerts than I can remember back in the 70's and
early 80's I don't need hearing protection any more. ;~)

Believe it or not my wife fell asleep during an Eagles concert.



RS

Ron S

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 8:40 AM


> You might want to look again, the Griz on the below link is $769 Delivered!
> That is only $220 more, has a much higher capacity, and you likely will
> never have to replace the planer again.

I was looking at the G0453 but I will take a look at the G0551. That
might actually be the best deal. I have a couple Griz tools and like
them a lot.

jj

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 11:44 AM

> ..... I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the DW735 ...

I could not be more pleased, and I'd strongly suggest that you get the
in-feed & out-feed tables with it.

> ... and what they think of the noise level.

It's no problem with top notch protection. I got a pair of "ear muffs"
sold by Stihl - they're 25 dB while most others are about 18 dB. I
figure that the hearing I've got left is worth a few bucks more. Since
hearing damage is cumulative, it's beyond me why anyone would not wear
hearing protection.

> I have also heard that switching between speeds is a bit tricky so any thoughts on that?

As others have pointed out - it's easy, but the machine must be
running.

kk

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

14/04/2010 6:21 AM

On Apr 13, 8:09=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > On 04/13/2010 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
> >> Or if you want an enclosed vs. open stand with wheels and 50% more pow=
er
> >> thnn the other Griz you can get the below linked planer for $889
> >> Delivered!
> >> Only $340 more.
>
> >>http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Closed-Stand/G0551
>
> >> Just something to think about but =A0also consider that fact the knive=
s can
> >> be
> >> resharpened time and again which will quickly whittle down the differe=
nce
> >> in
> >> price.
>
> > Interesting... =A0Grizzly is carrying the G0551 again. =A0My Dad bought=
that
> > planer a few years ago, but when I decided to spring for a new planer l=
ast
> > year the G0551 was missing from the Grizzly lineup, so I bought the G04=
53
> > instead. =A0I don't regret my decision, but I would probably have the G=
0551
> > right now if it had been available. =A0I wonder why they dropped that m=
odel
> > then brought it back? =A0Incidentally, at its core the G0551 is pretty =
much
> > a less fancy version of the Delta 22-790X, which these days sells for o=
ver
> > $1200.
>
> Strange things happen like that. =A0Last year I bought one of the new Del=
ta
> drill presses, a few months later it could not be found. =A0It has reappe=
ared
> again.

Now that it's back, take the wheels off it.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 10:01 AM

I
> recently bought a stationary planer with carbide cutterhead. =A0Much
> quieter than my old benchtop and less tearout.
>
> Chris

What brand\model?

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 8:06 PM


"Ron S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>> You might want to look again, the Griz on the below link is $769
>> Delivered!
>> That is only $220 more, has a much higher capacity, and you likely will
>> never have to replace the planer again.
>
> I was looking at the G0453 but I will take a look at the G0551. That
> might actually be the best deal. I have a couple Griz tools and like
> them a lot.

I realize you may have been looking at a better planer than the cheaper ones
that I pointed out but you have to condiser that most any decent brand
stationary planer is going to be a vast improvement over a portable unit.

AND if you can swing it, the closed bottom unit with casters will make it
easy to store out of the way when not in use. The 3 hp would be handy also.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 5:33 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Ron S <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
>With that said, I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the
>DW735 and what they think of the noise level. I live alone so I'm only
>worried about my ears, not bothering anyone else.

I think it's a loud SOB, definitely the loudest tool in my shop. We live in
town, but the lots are large and the nearest neighbor is about 75 yards away,
and my shop is in the basement. If your shop is in the garage, and your next
door neighbor's house is only 30 feet away, he won't be happy if you're
running a DW735 early in the morning or late at night.

> I'd be particularly
>interested in hearing from people who have the DW735 but have used
>other planers to get a comparison.

*Anything* with a high-speed universal motor is going to be noisy. But the
DW735 is probably louder than most. Definitely louder than the 12.5" Delta it
replaced. Ear protection is a must.
>
>I have also heard that switching between speeds is a bit tricky so any
>thoughts on that?

Naaaa. It's easy as can be. Just flip a lever. The only thing even remotely
"tricky" about it is that the machine has to be running to change speeds.

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 2:23 PM

On 04/12/2010 01:44 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> ..... I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the DW735 ...
>> ... and what they think of the noise level.
>
> It's no problem with top notch protection. I got a pair of "ear muffs"
> sold by Stihl - they're 25 dB while most others are about 18 dB. I
> figure that the hearing I've got left is worth a few bucks more. Since
> hearing damage is cumulative, it's beyond me why anyone would not wear
> hearing protection.

Yes, absolutely. I have the Grizzly G0453 planer and the Grizzly G0440 dust collector. I
don't know how many decibels these things kick out (Grizzly doesn't say in their data
sheets), but it's a LOT, and I would think that just turning either machine ON (without
running anything through them) would be enough noise to warrant ear protection. Because it
has an induction motor this planer is relatively quiet compared to the lunchbox models with
universal motors, but that ain't even half the story. I don't know what other planers sound
like when you hook them up to dust collection, but the noise level on this one increases
SIGNIFICANTLY when that monster collector is sucking air past the spinning knives. The
planer ROARS when the collector is running (which it always is; running a planer without
dust collection is madness), and that's before I even start milling wood. I can't imagine
the hearing damage you would incur if you didn't wear ear protection while running a planer...

--
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sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 2:13 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
[...]
>I've only had mine a few days, but it's been good so far. I'll probably
>have to build infeed and outfeed tables for it soon. Lowes had just the
>DW735 planer (and knives) for down to $550. My local one had it at $535.

The DeWalt input/output tables show up on eBay from time to time. That's where
I got mine, for about 60% of retail price.

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 11:31 AM

On 04/13/2010 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
> Or if you want an enclosed vs. open stand with wheels and 50% more power
> thnn the other Griz you can get the below linked planer for $889 Delivered!
> Only $340 more.
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Closed-Stand/G0551
>
> Just something to think about but also consider that fact the knives can be
> resharpened time and again which will quickly whittle down the difference in
> price.

Interesting... Grizzly is carrying the G0551 again. My Dad bought that planer a few years
ago, but when I decided to spring for a new planer last year the G0551 was missing from the
Grizzly lineup, so I bought the G0453 instead. I don't regret my decision, but I would
probably have the G0551 right now if it had been available. I wonder why they dropped that
model then brought it back? Incidentally, at its core the G0551 is pretty much a less fancy
version of the Delta 22-790X, which these days sells for over $1200.

--
My momma taught me two things about life:
1. Never tell them everything you know;

To reply, eat the taco.
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Ll

"Leon"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 7:26 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:be1c2c02-8e58-4305-bcdd-f0f5b5a69170@x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com...
>> ..... I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the DW735 ...
>
> I could not be more pleased, and I'd strongly suggest that you get the
> in-feed & out-feed tables with it.
>
>> ... and what they think of the noise level.
>
> It's no problem with top notch protection. I got a pair of "ear muffs"
> sold by Stihl - they're 25 dB while most others are about 18 dB. I
> figure that the hearing I've got left is worth a few bucks more. Since
> hearing damage is cumulative, it's beyond me why anyone would not wear
> hearing protection.


Believe it or not, the foam plugs you roll up and let expand in your ear cut
33 db... I was shocked.

DD

"Dr. Deb"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 9:11 PM

Ron S wrote:

>
> I have been renting a house for a while and in an apartment for the
> last year and my tools have been packed up in storage. In another week
> I am closing on a house and finally get to set my shop back up. I used
> to have a DW734 and hated it. Too much snipe and just never felt good
> about it.....so I sold it, and now I need to replace it. I've been
> looking at the DW735 and have heard great things about it. Was
> recently looking at reviews and almost everyone complained about the
> noise level. Some said that even with hearing protection it was too
> loud.
>
> With that said, I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the
> DW735 and what they think of the noise level. I live alone so I'm only
> worried about my ears, not bothering anyone else. I'd be particularly
> interested in hearing from people who have the DW735 but have used
> other planers to get a comparison.
>
> I have also heard that switching between speeds is a bit tricky so any
> thoughts on that?
>
> And as a last request, if anyone is happy with their planer (non-
> DW735) and think they get high quality results, please let me know. I
> was considering the Delta as an alternative.
>
> Thanks

I read a review of planers a couple of issues back in the one of the wood
working mags and the Ridgid came out as the third best but the most
economical. Being married to a "downeaster scot" that was an important
consideration. I have never regretted the purchase. It leaves a finish
almost as smooth as I could/would sand and the snipe is not bad.

As a tip, I have found that if I give a bit of up pressure on the board as
it exits the planer snipe almost disappears.

Deb

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

13/04/2010 8:09 PM


"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 04/13/2010 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
>> Or if you want an enclosed vs. open stand with wheels and 50% more power
>> thnn the other Griz you can get the below linked planer for $889
>> Delivered!
>> Only $340 more.
>>
>> http://www.grizzly.com/products/15-Planer-w-Closed-Stand/G0551
>>
>> Just something to think about but also consider that fact the knives can
>> be
>> resharpened time and again which will quickly whittle down the difference
>> in
>> price.
>
> Interesting... Grizzly is carrying the G0551 again. My Dad bought that
> planer a few years ago, but when I decided to spring for a new planer last
> year the G0551 was missing from the Grizzly lineup, so I bought the G0453
> instead. I don't regret my decision, but I would probably have the G0551
> right now if it had been available. I wonder why they dropped that model
> then brought it back? Incidentally, at its core the G0551 is pretty much
> a less fancy version of the Delta 22-790X, which these days sells for over
> $1200.


Strange things happen like that. Last year I bought one of the new Delta
drill presses, a few months later it could not be found. It has reappeared
again.




LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Ron S on 12/04/2010 9:38 AM

12/04/2010 8:42 PM

On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:26:37 -0500, the infamous "Leon"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:be1c2c02-8e58-4305-bcdd-f0f5b5a69170@x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com...
>>> ..... I'd like to hear some feedback from people using the DW735 ...
>>
>> I could not be more pleased, and I'd strongly suggest that you get the
>> in-feed & out-feed tables with it.
>>
>>> ... and what they think of the noise level.
>>
>> It's no problem with top notch protection. I got a pair of "ear muffs"
>> sold by Stihl - they're 25 dB while most others are about 18 dB. I
>> figure that the hearing I've got left is worth a few bucks more. Since
>> hearing damage is cumulative, it's beyond me why anyone would not wear
>> hearing protection.
>
>
>Believe it or not, the foam plugs you roll up and let expand in your ear cut
>33 db... I was shocked.

Yeah, they work very well. But don't use the hard foam style, like HF
sells. they're uncomfortable and don't dampen noise as well. The soft,
orange plugs in a bell shape work the best for me, installed with the
wide part of the bell inside. I sleep with earplugs and they don't
hurt if they're installed backwards like that. I sleep on my side.

The $2 HF earmuffs work well, too, but I upgraded to their electronic
muffs. They give you the ambient sound until a loud noise hits, then
it immediately cuts out, in milli- or microseconds. They're $15 on
sale quite often and work well at the range. Just me and my tinnitus,
with the occasional soft pop just before something disintegrates
downrange.

For hard rock concerts, wear both plugs and muffs and the sound is
wonderful. ;)

--
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace
will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will
blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn.
-- John Muir


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