This device is one of the little boxes available that stick to a surface
and give you a digital angle readout.
http://www.igaging.com/page2.html#AngleCube
I researched all the options and went with this one for two reasons.
1. I found it for $29, shipped, instead of the 40+ bucks the rest seem
to go for.
2. it appeared to be the best for several reasons:
a. uses one 9 volt battery which is available *everywhere,* instead of
a bunch of hearing-aid batts which are difficult to find and costly.
b. it's aluminum, not plastic
c. they make the BealeBox with gets great reviews.
d. has best/most features..... which I'll get into.
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.....
The GOOD:
Works perfectly-- dead-on accurate (accurate enough for woodworking).
Has magnets on 3 sides (some others only have them on 2).
Readout flips over when device is upside-down.
As mentioned earlier, uses a 9volt battery, instead of hard-to-find pill
batteries.
Has a "Hold" feature on the readout... use your imagination.
It *really* speeds up your work. Forget lining up a square with the
blade and looking between the blade and square for light, and making
sure you're not on the teeth.... just plop it down, hit zero, plop it
on the blade, crank the blade until you see the angle you want, done.
The caveat here is that your blade is true/flat. But yeah, time for a
new blade it that's not the case, right?
The BAD:
Out of the box, one side had an ever so slight crown in the center,
which allowed it to rock a fuzz, when placed on that side. I can't
remember if it was enough to affect the accuracy, but it was enough for
a sheet of paper. This is supposed to be a precision instrument. If
you had an engineering square that rocked, not matter how little, that
would mean there was a flaw.
The UGLY:
I emailed iGaging, told them about the problem, and this was their reply...
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"It is my first time hearing this problem and I am very sorry. I think
it is due to the chrome process of the body. Here are two things you
can do:
1. Use a #250 or #300 sand paper to sand it down a little.
2. You can exchange it with your seller.
Once again, sorry for any problem we may cost you."
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Imagine if this was Lee Valley and one of the tools they make. They
would've had another one in the mail, before sending an email apology.
The restored GOOD:
So anyway, I tried the sanding thing and it wasn't getting there. I
took the back cover off and pushed the crowned side in just a tad
(aluminum) at it's center to bend the bow in. That worked perfectly and
it kept its accuracy.
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"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon wrote:
>> IIRC I got mine for Christmas via Lee Valley. Don't recall having to
>> replace the CR2022 battery yet, 3 years and counting. Actually that
>> pattery is pretty common. You can find it most anywhere, Radio Shack,
>> Best Buy, Amazon. I found them on line through Amazon darn cheap. IIRC
>> less than 10 cents each when bought in lots of 10 or more. I prefer the
>> CR2022 battery because my digital caliper and digital angle finder use
>> the same battery. Imagine a 9 volt battery attached to a ditital caliper.
>> LOL.
>
> Well, that's very convenient for you, then. Nice.
And please let me assure you I was not knocking your tool. Had the first
one I saw been 9 volt I would have been all over it to.
Correction I mentioned CR2022 batteries for 10 cents for 10 or more, It is
10 CR2032 for $2.49. IIRC my 2 Applied Industries WW calculators run on
the CR2032 battery also and maybe my Wixey digital depth gauge on my planer.
Something I have runs on a 1/4" square round battery. I have a few of those
in my tool chest. Huh?
On Nov 13, 2:29=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> This device is one of the little boxes available that stick to a surface
> and give you a digital angle readout.http://www.igaging.com/page2.html#An=
gleCube
>
> I researched all the options and went with this one for two reasons.
> 1. I found it for $29, shipped, instead of the 40+ bucks the rest seem
> to go for.
>
{snip}
>
> The BAD:
> Out of the box, one side had an ever so slight crown in the center,
> which allowed it to rock a fuzz, when placed on that side. =A0I can't
> remember if it was enough to affect the accuracy, but it was enough for
> a sheet of paper. =A0This is supposed to be a precision instrument. =A0If
> you had an engineering square that rocked, not matter how little, that
> would mean there was a flaw.
>
> The UGLY:
> I emailed iGaging, told them about the problem, and this was their reply.=
..
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> "It is my first time hearing this problem and I am very sorry. =A0I think
> it is due to the chrome process of the body. =A0Here are two things you
> can do:
> 1. Use a #250 or #300 sand paper to sand it down a little.
> 2. You can exchange it with your seller.
> Once again, sorry for any problem we may cost you."
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Imagine if this was Lee Valley and one of the tools they make. =A0They
> would've had another one in the mail, before sending an email apology.
You opted for the lowest cost seller and you're bemoaning that they
didn't give the higher priced guy's service and return policy. Huh?
R
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> -MIKE- wrote:
>> This device is one of the little boxes available that stick to a surface
>> and give you a digital angle readout.
>> http://www.igaging.com/page2.html#AngleCube
>
> Used many devices down through the years for setting table saw blade
> angles. This type is by far the most accurate and easiest to use. Got mine
> a few years ago from Rockler and it is one of the few things in my shop I
> _always_ know the location of.
Right next to your old saddle square? Have you seen your digital box
lately? ;~)
IIRC I got mine for Christmas via Lee Valley. Don't recall having to
replace the CR2022 battery yet, 3 years and counting. Actually that pattery
is pretty common. You can find it most anywhere, Radio Shack, Best Buy,
Amazon. I found them on line through Amazon darn cheap. IIRC less than 10
cents each when bought in lots of 10 or more. I prefer the CR2022 battery
because my digital caliper and digital angle finder use the same battery.
Imagine a 9 volt battery attached to a ditital caliper. LOL.
-MIKE- wrote:
> This device is one of the little boxes available that stick to a surface
> and give you a digital angle readout.
> http://www.igaging.com/page2.html#AngleCube
Used many devices down through the years for setting table saw blade
angles. This type is by far the most accurate and easiest to use. Got
mine a few years ago from Rockler and it is one of the few things in my
shop I _always_ know the location of.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I got out MY digital angle finder to measure a corner and divide by two
> yesterday. You know, the one you touted, then after I bought one like it,
> you changed your mind got another type!! Thanks, Buddy! <g>
ROTFL and it was CHEAPER! LOL Hey I toad you. sorry for the miss
steer, I make that mistake too. Wanna buy my first one? Not enough
digital angle finder knowledge to know any better. ;~) I knew what to look
for this time..... I think.
>
> The battery was dead, and not from overuse ... but, lo and behold, I had a
> radio shack spare. I buy them in three packs every chance I get.
This one?
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1241-battery-lithium-coin-3v-20mm-cr2032.html
dpb wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
> ...
>> ...That worked perfectly and it kept its accuracy.
>
> And what did you use a reference standard? NIST-traceable, I presume?
>
> (sorry, couldn't help meself.... :) )
>
> --
What is that?
Because they claim to have something called, "navigational sensor for
tracing sea level."
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RicodJour wrote:
>> Imagine if this was Lee Valley and one of the tools they make. They
>> would've had another one in the mail, before sending an email apology.
>
> You opted for the lowest cost seller and you're bemoaning that they
> didn't give the higher priced guy's service and return policy. Huh?
>
> R
It's the manufacturer, not the seller.
It had nothing to do with the seller.
They seller didn't insert the flaw before shipping it to me. :-)
I used Lee Valley as an example because they sell tools they also
manufacture, and because everyone in this group is familiar with them
and their service.
But I could list a dozen other companies who would've jumped at the
opportunity to go above and beyond.
And yes, in today's market and economy, a business needs the best price
and service to compete.
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Swingman wrote:
> Used many devices down through the years for setting table saw blade
> angles. This type is by far the most accurate and easiest to use. Got
> mine a few years ago from Rockler and it is one of the few things in my
> shop I _always_ know the location of.
>
Funny how we all have a few of those, even if we are very disorganized.
:-)
In the shop, I try to use the military motto of, "a place for every
thing, and every thing in its place." I try.
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Leon wrote:
> IIRC I got mine for Christmas via Lee Valley. Don't recall having to
> replace the CR2022 battery yet, 3 years and counting. Actually that pattery
> is pretty common. You can find it most anywhere, Radio Shack, Best Buy,
> Amazon. I found them on line through Amazon darn cheap. IIRC less than 10
> cents each when bought in lots of 10 or more. I prefer the CR2022 battery
> because my digital caliper and digital angle finder use the same battery.
> Imagine a 9 volt battery attached to a ditital caliper. LOL.
>
Well, that's very convenient for you, then. Nice.
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Leon wrote:
>> Well, that's very convenient for you, then. Nice.
>
>
> And please let me assure you I was not knocking your tool. Had the first
> one I saw been 9 volt I would have been all over it to.
>
No, trust me, that's an important thing to consider.
In my mast job, I was responsible for spec'ing, choosing and purchasing
audio/video field production gear.
Almost first on my list was, "Do all these things use the same battery?"
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-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
: RicodJour wrote:
:>> Imagine if this was Lee Valley and one of the tools they make. They
:>> would've had another one in the mail, before sending an email apology.
:>
:> You opted for the lowest cost seller and you're bemoaning that they
:> didn't give the higher priced guy's service and return policy. Huh?
:>
:> R
: It's the manufacturer, not the seller.
: It had nothing to do with the seller.
: They seller didn't insert the flaw before shipping it to me. :-)
But to be fair to the manufacturer, manufacturers often
simply are not set up for returns, nor for shipping a
single item to a residential address.
If you bought a $2,000 Nikon/Canon/Leica camera from somewhere (amazon,
Joe's Camera Shoppe, Beach Camera...), and there
was a problem, you would get the same response from Nikon/Canon/Leica:
contact the vendor for replacement. It's part of their job, and why they
get the markup they do.
-- Andy Barss
Andrew Barss wrote:
> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> : RicodJour wrote:
> :>> Imagine if this was Lee Valley and one of the tools they make. They
> :>> would've had another one in the mail, before sending an email apology.
> :>
> :> You opted for the lowest cost seller and you're bemoaning that they
> :> didn't give the higher priced guy's service and return policy. Huh?
> :>
> :> R
>
> : It's the manufacturer, not the seller.
> : It had nothing to do with the seller.
> : They seller didn't insert the flaw before shipping it to me. :-)
>
> But to be fair to the manufacturer, manufacturers often
> simply are not set up for returns, nor for shipping a
> single item to a residential address.
>
> If you bought a $2,000 Nikon/Canon/Leica camera from somewhere (amazon,
> Joe's Camera Shoppe, Beach Camera...), and there
> was a problem, you would get the same response from Nikon/Canon/Leica:
> contact the vendor for replacement. It's part of their job, and why they
> get the markup they do.
>
> -- Andy Barss
I understand all that. I've never been to a rodeo, but this isn't my
first electronics purchase. :-)
In my experience, the ones who do it right, handle their own problems.
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-MIKE- wrote:
> Andrew Barss wrote:
>> If you bought a $2,000 Nikon/Canon/Leica camera from somewhere
>> (amazon, Joe's Camera Shoppe, Beach Camera...), and there
>> was a problem, you would get the same response from
>> Nikon/Canon/Leica: contact the vendor for replacement. It's part of
>> their job, and why they
>> get the markup they do.
>>
>> -- Andy Barss
>
> I understand all that. I've never been to a rodeo, but this isn't my
> first electronics purchase. :-)
>
> In my experience, the ones who do it right, handle their own problems.
You live in Nashville and you've never been to a rodeo?! I'm one of the
last people on the planet who would be inclined to attend a rodeo and
even *I've* been to a rodeo...
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Steve Turner wrote:
>> I understand all that. I've never been to a rodeo, but this isn't my
>> first electronics purchase. :-)
>>
>> In my experience, the ones who do it right, handle their own problems.
>
> You live in Nashville and you've never been to a rodeo?! I'm one of the
> last people on the planet who would be inclined to attend a rodeo and
> even *I've* been to a rodeo...
>
Nashville ain't in Oklahoma. :-)
Had I grown up in a different area, I think I would've enjoyed
participating.
With the exception of the outfits, it all appeals to my
testosterone/adrenaline driven nature.
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I was the kind of person who seldom tossed out a saw blade, even
the disposable ones. When I set up my first RAS, long ago, I
grabbed one of the old 10" plywood blades I inherited from my Dad
and put it BACKWARD on the arbor. It was just a cheap, disposable
plywood blade, but back then they had decent iron in them (and no
carbide teeth). Using my angle grinder with a metal wheel in it,
I ran the RAS and carefully slid the sidewheel grinder's blade
toward the side of the backward running old plywood blade. This
was repeated on the other side and finally against the edge,
removing all traces of teeth and leaving a smooth 10" disk. By
doing it carefully and slowly, the blade didn't warp.
The blade was saved and used over the years to adjust both the RAS
and TS, since there were no teeth and set to worry about.
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to measure the amount of education actually
absorbed by children. Don't sacrifice the smart
kids to make the dumb ones feel good about themselves.
Leon wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> This device is one of the little boxes available that stick to a surface
>>> and give you a digital angle readout.
>>> http://www.igaging.com/page2.html#AngleCube
>> Used many devices down through the years for setting table saw blade
>> angles. This type is by far the most accurate and easiest to use. Got mine
>> a few years ago from Rockler and it is one of the few things in my shop I
>> _always_ know the location of.
>
>
> Right next to your old saddle square? Have you seen your digital box
> lately? ;~)
Yep ... used it yesterday to cut some trim on the table saw!
I NOW have TWO saddle squares, count'em, TWO!
But ... I have bought three!? :(
> IIRC I got mine for Christmas via Lee Valley. Don't recall having to
> replace the CR2022 battery yet, 3 years and counting. Actually that pattery
> is pretty common. You can find it most anywhere, Radio Shack, Best Buy,
> Amazon. I found them on line through Amazon darn cheap. IIRC less than 10
> cents each when bought in lots of 10 or more. I prefer the CR2022 battery
> because my digital caliper and digital angle finder use the same battery.
> Imagine a 9 volt battery attached to a ditital caliper. LOL.
I got out MY digital angle finder to measure a corner and divide by two
yesterday. You know, the one you touted, then after I bought one like
it, you changed your mind got another type!! Thanks, Buddy! <g>
The battery was dead, and not from overuse ... but, lo and behold, I had
a radio shack spare. I buy them in three packs every chance I get.
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