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woodchucker

15/12/2013 11:29 AM

Bad day in the shop better than a good day at work?

I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday.

Everything I touched went to shit.
I was doevtailing a drawer a few nights before.
Never finished the last side as I started at 10pm.
Went down this morning...
The last side was twisted... I don't know how I cut them a week ago and
everything was fine, when I startted dovetailing. The wood had plenty of
time to do it's thing earlier.

Ok, so I cut a new piece, and rather than wait for it to stabilize (I am
resawing these). I start to work. Pins complete on one side.
Start marking the pins on the other... make sure they are going in the
right direction... Yep everythings fine. Start cutting the pins... nice
all done.. You know where this is going don't you. Ok, now I have a set
of pins going in one direction and a set going in the other... Fuck!!!!

Ok, you know what I always start with pins, lets do this again and start
with the tails first.... layout... looks good... Cut them out...
Damn those are the smallest tails I have ever seen... There's a reason
you keep doing what works... my eyes are so used to spacing and layout
for pins, that I made the tails the pin sizes... Scrap that drawer....

I'm done for the day as I'm too depressed to mess up some more...

My last days of work are approaching and I'll get some shop time
shortly, unless I find a new contract. Yep, layoffs are coming where I
work, so contractors are not being renewed. I'll be out of work again..

I miss the old days... I miss having a brain too.. I can't believe I
just kept fucking up.

--
Jeff


This topic has 17 replies

DD

"Dr. Deb"

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 5:17 PM

Mike Marlow wrote:

> Dr. Deb wrote:
>
>> Welllllllll, you could have had my "almost" day. A couple of days
>> ago I went out to the shop after the temp made its way in the the mid
>> 40's (10:30 or so) and got the stove ready to light a fire. While
>> cleaning out the ash, I noticed I had some live coals, so (being the
>> great frontier's man that I am) I used the coals to get the fire lit.
>> Everything was going like it oughta, the fire was coming up, the shop
>> was warming up (the stove is on one side of a partition and the shop
>> is on the other side). So I am working away and notice it is just
>> about Noon, but I have some round overs to run and then I will break
>> for lunch. Just then I noticed billows of smoke coming through the
>> door. I ran to the door and saw flames beside the stove (they were
>> supposed to be INSIDE it). I ran out side, grabbed the hose and
>> doused the flames. It seems that I had not used ALL the live coals
>> and my ash bucked it a plastic 5gal bucket, that I have been using
>> for years.
>>
>
> Well - shame on you in a big way! No one in their right mind EVER uses
a
> plastic bucket for their coals or ash! Fortunately - an lesson learned
> the easy way, but... shame on you!
>
>

Oh, I know and "shame" accepted.

GS

Gordon Shumway

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 12:35 PM

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:29:10 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday.
>
>Everything I touched went to shit.
>I was doevtailing a drawer a few nights before.
>Never finished the last side as I started at 10pm.
>Went down this morning...
>The last side was twisted... I don't know how I cut them a week ago and
>everything was fine, when I startted dovetailing. The wood had plenty of
>time to do it's thing earlier.
>
>Ok, so I cut a new piece, and rather than wait for it to stabilize (I am
>resawing these). I start to work. Pins complete on one side.
>Start marking the pins on the other... make sure they are going in the
>right direction... Yep everythings fine. Start cutting the pins... nice
>all done.. You know where this is going don't you. Ok, now I have a set
>of pins going in one direction and a set going in the other... Fuck!!!!

What a dipshit! You have to be one of the few in this group that
would do something that stupid. I know I certainly never, never,
never have. (Now uncrossing fingers)

Take a break and tomorrow will be better... probably.

>Ok, you know what I always start with pins, lets do this again and start
>with the tails first.... layout... looks good... Cut them out...
>Damn those are the smallest tails I have ever seen... There's a reason
>you keep doing what works... my eyes are so used to spacing and layout
>for pins, that I made the tails the pin sizes... Scrap that drawer....
>
>I'm done for the day as I'm too depressed to mess up some more...
>
>My last days of work are approaching and I'll get some shop time
>shortly, unless I find a new contract. Yep, layoffs are coming where I
>work, so contractors are not being renewed. I'll be out of work again..
>
>I miss the old days... I miss having a brain too.. I can't believe I
>just kept fucking up.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 7:44 PM



"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Welllllllll, you could have had my "almost" day. A couple of days ago I
> went out to the shop after the temp made its way in the the mid 40's
> (10:30
> or so) and got the stove ready to light a fire. While cleaning out the
> ash,
> I noticed I had some live coals, so (being the great frontier's man that I
> am) I used the coals to get the fire lit. Everything was going like it
> oughta, the fire was coming up, the shop was warming up (the stove is on
> one side of a partition and the shop is on the other side). So I am
> working
> away and notice it is just about Noon, but I have some round overs to run
> and then I will break for lunch. Just then I noticed billows of smoke
> coming through the door. I ran to the door and saw flames beside the
> stove
> (they were supposed to be INSIDE it). I ran out side, grabbed the hose and
> doused the flames. It seems that I had not used ALL the live coals and my
> ash bucked it a plastic 5gal bucket, that I have been using for years.
>
> All I lost was a few brown paper bags and the 5gal bucket. But had I not
> delayed going to lunch those few minutes, I would have come back to a
> smoking ruin. I would not have minded losing the tools so much as several
> hundred board feet of mahogany, over 150bft each of ash, and walnut and a
> couple hundred bft of jarrah - plus the stash of bits and pieces.
>
> As it was, all I lost was the paper bags and the painted table the bags
> were
> under was not even scorched.
>
> It could have been a totally different story - God is soooooooo good.

I have two metal cans with handles and lids. Very heavy duty and solid.
Good for anything hot or oily. If it can catch fire, it goes in the can and
then goes outside onto concrete away from any structures.

The two salient points are METAL container and OUTSIDE. You can't get into
too much trouble that way. To quote an old computer security specialist I
knew, "It is not a matter of being paranoid. It is a matter of being
paranoid ENOUGH."

If you are paranoid enough, safety conscious enough and redundant, you won't
have close calls like the one you described above.


DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 5:55 PM

On 12/15/2013 05:34 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 12/15/2013 5:00 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
>> woodchucker wrote:
>>
>>> I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday.
>>>
>>> Everything I touched went to shit.
>>> I was doevtailing a drawer a few nights before.
>>> Never finished the last side as I started at 10pm.
>>> Went down this morning...
>>> The last side was twisted... I don't know how I cut them a week ago and
>>> everything was fine, when I startted dovetailing. The wood had plenty of
>>> time to do it's thing earlier.
>>>
>>> Ok, so I cut a new piece, and rather than wait for it to stabilize (I am
>>> resawing these). I start to work. Pins complete on one side.
>>> Start marking the pins on the other... make sure they are going in the
>>> right direction... Yep everythings fine. Start cutting the pins... nice
>>> all done.. You know where this is going don't you. Ok, now I have a set
>>> of pins going in one direction and a set going in the other... Fuck!!!!
>>>
>>> Ok, you know what I always start with pins, lets do this again and start
>>> with the tails first.... layout... looks good... Cut them out...
>>> Damn those are the smallest tails I have ever seen... There's a reason
>>> you keep doing what works... my eyes are so used to spacing and layout
>>> for pins, that I made the tails the pin sizes... Scrap that drawer....
>>>
>>> I'm done for the day as I'm too depressed to mess up some more...
>>>
>>> My last days of work are approaching and I'll get some shop time
>>> shortly, unless I find a new contract. Yep, layoffs are coming where I
>>> work, so contractors are not being renewed. I'll be out of work again..
>>>
>>> I miss the old days... I miss having a brain too.. I can't believe I
>>> just kept fucking up.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Welllllllll, you could have had my "almost" day. A couple of days ago I
>> went out to the shop after the temp made its way in the the mid 40's
>> (10:30
>> or so) and got the stove ready to light a fire. While cleaning out
>> the ash,
>> I noticed I had some live coals, so (being the great frontier's man
>> that I
>> am) I used the coals to get the fire lit. Everything was going like it
>> oughta, the fire was coming up, the shop was warming up (the stove is on
>> one side of a partition and the shop is on the other side). So I am
>> working
>> away and notice it is just about Noon, but I have some round overs to run
>> and then I will break for lunch. Just then I noticed billows of smoke
>> coming through the door. I ran to the door and saw flames beside the
>> stove
>> (they were supposed to be INSIDE it). I ran out side, grabbed the hose
>> and
>> doused the flames. It seems that I had not used ALL the live coals
>> and my
>> ash bucked it a plastic 5gal bucket, that I have been using for years.
>>
>> All I lost was a few brown paper bags and the 5gal bucket. But had I not
>> delayed going to lunch those few minutes, I would have come back to a
>> smoking ruin. I would not have minded losing the tools so much as
>> several
>> hundred board feet of mahogany, over 150bft each of ash, and walnut and a
>> couple hundred bft of jarrah - plus the stash of bits and pieces.
>>
>> As it was, all I lost was the paper bags and the painted table the
>> bags were
>> under was not even scorched.
>>
>> It could have been a totally different story - God is soooooooo good.
>>
>
> Damn, I'm feeling much better now. That's very good luck to have caught
> it in time. Go pick up a steel 5gal Behlen's can... much better than
> plastic. I use one for my oil rags since it has a cover.. it's good for
> ash too.
>
...or, you can get a 10 gal trashcan and use it for trash can turkey -
multi tasker :-)


--
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gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 5:05 PM


"Lee Michaels" wrote:

> The two salient points are METAL container and OUTSIDE. You can't
> get into too much trouble that way. To quote an old computer
> security specialist I knew, "It is not a matter of being paranoid.
> It is a matter of being paranoid ENOUGH."
>
> If you are paranoid enough, safety conscious enough and redundant,
> you won't have close calls like the one you described above.
----------------------------------------------------
Here in SoCal, open fires are limited to the beach and BBQs.

It was 81F outside my window today.

Now I remember why I left Cleveland.

Lew

Sc

Sonny

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 11:03 AM

On Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:29:10 AM UTC-6, woodchucker wrote:
> I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday. Everything I touched went to =
shit.=20

I think I went through a similar ordeal when learning (self taught) how to =
cut crown molding properly. I'll bet I spent 2 weeks figuring out stuff. =
I still need to stop and think, etc., etc., before making cuts. I'm still =
not fully confident when making them.

Sonny

jj

jo4hn

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

16/12/2013 6:44 AM

On 12/15/2013 5:05 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Lee Michaels" wrote:
>
>> The two salient points are METAL container and OUTSIDE. You can't
>> get into too much trouble that way. To quote an old computer
>> security specialist I knew, "It is not a matter of being paranoid.
>> It is a matter of being paranoid ENOUGH."
>>
>> If you are paranoid enough, safety conscious enough and redundant,
>> you won't have close calls like the one you described above.
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Here in SoCal, open fires are limited to the beach and BBQs.
>
> It was 81F outside my window today.
>
> Now I remember why I left Cleveland.
>
> Lew
>
>
Or why we left the mountains for Carlsbad and the beach.

jj

jo4hn

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

16/12/2013 6:40 AM

On 12/15/2013 10:35 AM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:29:10 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday.
>>
>> Everything I touched went to shit.
Ah. The fecal touch.

>
> Take a break and tomorrow will be better... probably.
>
Yes Scarlett, after all, tomorrow is another day.

DD

"Dr. Deb"

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 4:00 PM

woodchucker wrote:

> I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday.
>
> Everything I touched went to shit.
> I was doevtailing a drawer a few nights before.
> Never finished the last side as I started at 10pm.
> Went down this morning...
> The last side was twisted... I don't know how I cut them a week ago and
> everything was fine, when I startted dovetailing. The wood had plenty of
> time to do it's thing earlier.
>
> Ok, so I cut a new piece, and rather than wait for it to stabilize (I am
> resawing these). I start to work. Pins complete on one side.
> Start marking the pins on the other... make sure they are going in the
> right direction... Yep everythings fine. Start cutting the pins... nice
> all done.. You know where this is going don't you. Ok, now I have a set
> of pins going in one direction and a set going in the other... Fuck!!!!
>
> Ok, you know what I always start with pins, lets do this again and start
> with the tails first.... layout... looks good... Cut them out...
> Damn those are the smallest tails I have ever seen... There's a reason
> you keep doing what works... my eyes are so used to spacing and layout
> for pins, that I made the tails the pin sizes... Scrap that drawer....
>
> I'm done for the day as I'm too depressed to mess up some more...
>
> My last days of work are approaching and I'll get some shop time
> shortly, unless I find a new contract. Yep, layoffs are coming where I
> work, so contractors are not being renewed. I'll be out of work again..
>
> I miss the old days... I miss having a brain too.. I can't believe I
> just kept fucking up.
>


Welllllllll, you could have had my "almost" day. A couple of days ago I
went out to the shop after the temp made its way in the the mid 40's (10:30
or so) and got the stove ready to light a fire. While cleaning out the ash,
I noticed I had some live coals, so (being the great frontier's man that I
am) I used the coals to get the fire lit. Everything was going like it
oughta, the fire was coming up, the shop was warming up (the stove is on
one side of a partition and the shop is on the other side). So I am working
away and notice it is just about Noon, but I have some round overs to run
and then I will break for lunch. Just then I noticed billows of smoke
coming through the door. I ran to the door and saw flames beside the stove
(they were supposed to be INSIDE it). I ran out side, grabbed the hose and
doused the flames. It seems that I had not used ALL the live coals and my
ash bucked it a plastic 5gal bucket, that I have been using for years.

All I lost was a few brown paper bags and the 5gal bucket. But had I not
delayed going to lunch those few minutes, I would have come back to a
smoking ruin. I would not have minded losing the tools so much as several
hundred board feet of mahogany, over 150bft each of ash, and walnut and a
couple hundred bft of jarrah - plus the stash of bits and pieces.

As it was, all I lost was the paper bags and the painted table the bags were
under was not even scorched.

It could have been a totally different story - God is soooooooo good.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 1:16 PM

On 12/15/2013 1:03 PM, Sonny wrote:
> I think I went through a similar ordeal when learning (self taught) how to cut crown molding properly. I'll bet I spent 2 weeks figuring out stuff. I still need to stop and think, etc., etc., before making cuts. I'm still not fully confident when making them.

Same for me when making angled cuts, particularly compound angles.

Self doubt and indecision run rampant no matter how many thousands of
times I've done it down through the years.

If I'm going to screw up, it is almost slam dunk that it will be
something to do with angles first; or on the wrong side of something,
second.

Damned thing is that with these personal bugaboos, you can check, double
check, and triple check, and still do it wrong.

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wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 7:34 PM

On 12/15/2013 5:00 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
> woodchucker wrote:
>
>> I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday.
>>
>> Everything I touched went to shit.
>> I was doevtailing a drawer a few nights before.
>> Never finished the last side as I started at 10pm.
>> Went down this morning...
>> The last side was twisted... I don't know how I cut them a week ago and
>> everything was fine, when I startted dovetailing. The wood had plenty of
>> time to do it's thing earlier.
>>
>> Ok, so I cut a new piece, and rather than wait for it to stabilize (I am
>> resawing these). I start to work. Pins complete on one side.
>> Start marking the pins on the other... make sure they are going in the
>> right direction... Yep everythings fine. Start cutting the pins... nice
>> all done.. You know where this is going don't you. Ok, now I have a set
>> of pins going in one direction and a set going in the other... Fuck!!!!
>>
>> Ok, you know what I always start with pins, lets do this again and start
>> with the tails first.... layout... looks good... Cut them out...
>> Damn those are the smallest tails I have ever seen... There's a reason
>> you keep doing what works... my eyes are so used to spacing and layout
>> for pins, that I made the tails the pin sizes... Scrap that drawer....
>>
>> I'm done for the day as I'm too depressed to mess up some more...
>>
>> My last days of work are approaching and I'll get some shop time
>> shortly, unless I find a new contract. Yep, layoffs are coming where I
>> work, so contractors are not being renewed. I'll be out of work again..
>>
>> I miss the old days... I miss having a brain too.. I can't believe I
>> just kept fucking up.
>>
>
>
> Welllllllll, you could have had my "almost" day. A couple of days ago I
> went out to the shop after the temp made its way in the the mid 40's (10:30
> or so) and got the stove ready to light a fire. While cleaning out the ash,
> I noticed I had some live coals, so (being the great frontier's man that I
> am) I used the coals to get the fire lit. Everything was going like it
> oughta, the fire was coming up, the shop was warming up (the stove is on
> one side of a partition and the shop is on the other side). So I am working
> away and notice it is just about Noon, but I have some round overs to run
> and then I will break for lunch. Just then I noticed billows of smoke
> coming through the door. I ran to the door and saw flames beside the stove
> (they were supposed to be INSIDE it). I ran out side, grabbed the hose and
> doused the flames. It seems that I had not used ALL the live coals and my
> ash bucked it a plastic 5gal bucket, that I have been using for years.
>
> All I lost was a few brown paper bags and the 5gal bucket. But had I not
> delayed going to lunch those few minutes, I would have come back to a
> smoking ruin. I would not have minded losing the tools so much as several
> hundred board feet of mahogany, over 150bft each of ash, and walnut and a
> couple hundred bft of jarrah - plus the stash of bits and pieces.
>
> As it was, all I lost was the paper bags and the painted table the bags were
> under was not even scorched.
>
> It could have been a totally different story - God is soooooooo good.
>

Damn, I'm feeling much better now. That's very good luck to have caught
it in time. Go pick up a steel 5gal Behlen's can... much better than
plastic. I use one for my oil rags since it has a cover.. it's good for
ash too.

--
Jeff

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 1:23 PM

woodchucker wrote:

>
> My last days of work are approaching and I'll get some shop time
> shortly, unless I find a new contract. Yep, layoffs are coming where I
> work, so contractors are not being renewed. I'll be out of work
> again..

Feeling for ya brotha. I went through that for 2 years - or a little more.
Looking at a new position as a VP with a startup company right now, but you
know how it goes - it ain't over 'till the fat lady sings...

> I miss the old days... I miss having a brain too.. I can't believe I
> just kept fucking up.

Get used to that. It only gets worse!

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

fE

[email protected] (Edward A. Falk)

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 7:41 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday.

No, you had a bad day in the shop. I've had my share of those too.

A *very* bad day involves fingers flying across the room.

And a good day at work involves getting a big fat bonus because the
product shipped on time. (Ok, that's a *very* good day at work.)

But still, I'll take an average day in the shop over an average day at
work any time.

--
-Ed Falk, [email protected]
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 5:21 PM

Dr. Deb wrote:

> Welllllllll, you could have had my "almost" day. A couple of days
> ago I went out to the shop after the temp made its way in the the mid
> 40's (10:30 or so) and got the stove ready to light a fire. While
> cleaning out the ash, I noticed I had some live coals, so (being the
> great frontier's man that I am) I used the coals to get the fire lit.
> Everything was going like it oughta, the fire was coming up, the shop
> was warming up (the stove is on one side of a partition and the shop
> is on the other side). So I am working away and notice it is just
> about Noon, but I have some round overs to run and then I will break
> for lunch. Just then I noticed billows of smoke coming through the
> door. I ran to the door and saw flames beside the stove (they were
> supposed to be INSIDE it). I ran out side, grabbed the hose and
> doused the flames. It seems that I had not used ALL the live coals
> and my ash bucked it a plastic 5gal bucket, that I have been using
> for years.
>

Well - shame on you in a big way! No one in their right mind EVER uses a
plastic bucket for their coals or ash! Fortunately - an lesson learned the
easy way, but... shame on you!


--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

15/12/2013 6:19 PM

Dr. Deb wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> Dr. Deb wrote:
>>
>>> Welllllllll, you could have had my "almost" day. A couple of days
>>> ago I went out to the shop after the temp made its way in the the
>>> mid 40's (10:30 or so) and got the stove ready to light a fire.
>>> While cleaning out the ash, I noticed I had some live coals, so
>>> (being the great frontier's man that I am) I used the coals to get
>>> the fire lit. Everything was going like it oughta, the fire was
>>> coming up, the shop was warming up (the stove is on one side of a
>>> partition and the shop is on the other side). So I am working away
>>> and notice it is just about Noon, but I have some round overs to
>>> run and then I will break for lunch. Just then I noticed billows
>>> of smoke coming through the door. I ran to the door and saw flames
>>> beside the stove (they were supposed to be INSIDE it). I ran out
>>> side, grabbed the hose and doused the flames. It seems that I had
>>> not used ALL the live coals and my ash bucked it a plastic 5gal
>>> bucket, that I have been using for years.
>>>
>>
>> Well - shame on you in a big way! No one in their right mind EVER
>> uses a plastic bucket for their coals or ash! Fortunately - an
>> lesson learned the easy way, but... shame on you!
>>
>>
>
> Oh, I know and "shame" accepted.

Although (I cleverly did not admit this in my earlier post...) some have
been known to use a plastic shop vac to clean out ash that they thought
contained no hot coals, only to discover...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

16/12/2013 6:25 PM

On 12/16/2013 10:06 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 12/15/2013 10:29 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>> I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday.
>>
>> Everything I touched went to shit.
>> I was doevtailing a drawer a few nights before.
>> Never finished the last side as I started at 10pm.
>> Went down this morning...
>> The last side was twisted... I don't know how I cut them a week ago and
>> everything was fine, when I startted dovetailing.
>
>
>
> The wood had plenty of
>> time to do it's thing earlier.
>
> Try and explain that to the wood. ;~)
>
> I have learned the hard way that when milling to precise fit it is
> always better to try and fit it together the same day.
>
I usually let wood that I am re-sawing sit before final machining.
This one went so far it was not recoverable. Better now than once it was
a drawer... That would have torqued the drawer and made it nasty.
>
>> Ok, so I cut a new piece, and rather than wait for it to stabilize (I am
>> resawing these). I start to work. Pins complete on one side.
>> Start marking the pins on the other... make sure they are going in the
>> right direction... Yep everythings fine. Start cutting the pins... nice
>> all done.. You know where this is going don't you. Ok, now I have a set
>> of pins going in one direction and a set going in the other... Fuck!!!!
>
> I think you only do this one time, it is a lesson to double check. LOL
>
>
I double checked and triple checked... So no... it didn't work.
I have done this more than one time... Stupid I know.

>>
>> Ok, you know what I always start with pins, lets do this again and start
>> with the tails first.... layout... looks good... Cut them out...
>> Damn those are the smallest tails I have ever seen... There's a reason
>> you keep doing what works... my eyes are so used to spacing and layout
>> for pins, that I made the tails the pin sizes... Scrap that drawer....
>>
>> I'm done for the day as I'm too depressed to mess up some more...
>>
>> My last days of work are approaching and I'll get some shop time
>> shortly, unless I find a new contract. Yep, layoffs are coming where I
>> work, so contractors are not being renewed. I'll be out of work again..
>>
>> I miss the old days... I miss having a brain too.. I can't believe I
>> just kept fucking up.
>>
>
> Last week I made 11 wine bottle stoppers. It took me 2 full days!!!!!!
> First off I could not get the live center out of the tail stock, so that
> was a distraction. Then the tail stock would not adjust at all, could
> not turn the adjustment crank, froze up, so that was a distraction. Then
> every one of the chunks of wood that I drilled and tapped for the
> mandrel on the live end stripped out, so that was a distraction. I
> finally simply drilled and held the holes of the chunks of wood up to
> the spinning mandrel and let go at just the right moment.
>
> And of course the requirements to have every tool you own out for
> turning the simplest of things.
>
>
>


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Jeff

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Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 15/12/2013 11:29 AM

16/12/2013 9:06 AM

On 12/15/2013 10:29 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> I had a very bad day in the shop yesterday.
>
> Everything I touched went to shit.
> I was doevtailing a drawer a few nights before.
> Never finished the last side as I started at 10pm.
> Went down this morning...
> The last side was twisted... I don't know how I cut them a week ago and
> everything was fine, when I startted dovetailing.



The wood had plenty of
> time to do it's thing earlier.

Try and explain that to the wood. ;~)

I have learned the hard way that when milling to precise fit it is
always better to try and fit it together the same day.


> Ok, so I cut a new piece, and rather than wait for it to stabilize (I am
> resawing these). I start to work. Pins complete on one side.
> Start marking the pins on the other... make sure they are going in the
> right direction... Yep everythings fine. Start cutting the pins... nice
> all done.. You know where this is going don't you. Ok, now I have a set
> of pins going in one direction and a set going in the other... Fuck!!!!

I think you only do this one time, it is a lesson to double check. LOL


>
> Ok, you know what I always start with pins, lets do this again and start
> with the tails first.... layout... looks good... Cut them out...
> Damn those are the smallest tails I have ever seen... There's a reason
> you keep doing what works... my eyes are so used to spacing and layout
> for pins, that I made the tails the pin sizes... Scrap that drawer....
>
> I'm done for the day as I'm too depressed to mess up some more...
>
> My last days of work are approaching and I'll get some shop time
> shortly, unless I find a new contract. Yep, layoffs are coming where I
> work, so contractors are not being renewed. I'll be out of work again..
>
> I miss the old days... I miss having a brain too.. I can't believe I
> just kept fucking up.
>

Last week I made 11 wine bottle stoppers. It took me 2 full days!!!!!!
First off I could not get the live center out of the tail stock, so that
was a distraction. Then the tail stock would not adjust at all, could
not turn the adjustment crank, froze up, so that was a distraction.
Then every one of the chunks of wood that I drilled and tapped for the
mandrel on the live end stripped out, so that was a distraction. I
finally simply drilled and held the holes of the chunks of wood up to
the spinning mandrel and let go at just the right moment.

And of course the requirements to have every tool you own out for
turning the simplest of things.



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