JP

Jay Pique

24/11/2003 11:16 PM

REVIEW: Veritas Scraping Set

I recently bought several Xmas gifts from Lee Valley, and included a
"From Me To Me" in with the shipment. I purchased the Veritas
Scraping Set, which includes the Veritas Variable Burnisher, Scraper
Holder, Jointer/Edger, an 8" mill bastard file, and 4 Super Hard
Milled Scrapers.

The first thing I noticed is that you actually get 6 scrapers, as one
each comes packaged with the burnisher and the scraper holder.
Secondly, my inital impression is that all of the products appear to
be pretty solidly built. I was a bit concerned about possibly
receiving some lightweight cheezy plastic crap based on an earlier
review I'd read somewhere - but all seem fine. The burnisher and
scrpaer holder *are* plastic ("glass filled nylon" for the holder),
but they seem very sturdily built. The jointer is extruded aluminum.
All use brass hardware.

Having never used scrapers before, I figured I'd start with this set
so as to give myself the best chance at doing a good job out of the
gate. So far so good - I just put a 5 degree hook on one of them, and
knocked off some nice shavings off of a piece of scrap maple. It left
a very nice finish - just as I'd been led to believe was possible. As
it's 11:00pm here, I haven't had much time to really do too much work
with them, but I'll post follow ups as I put more hours on them. I
was just psyched to get out and acutally use them!

My only "gripe" so far is that the variable burnisher sort of hops up
onto the edge of the scraper as you push it across, and then hops off
at the end. I sort of think it's just because you can't acutally see
the burnishing rod going across the surface, like you could with just
a steel bar. I was a bit concerned I might run the thing off the edge
an then gash my wrist on the scraper as it slid off the end. This has
NOT happened, and I feel very confident it won't - as the plastic
housing for the burnisher is of large enough size to pretty much
prevent it.

Final Note: The service at LV has been excellent, and all of the
products I've ordered so far appear to be of top quality. While they
probably don't have *the* lowest price on everything, it appears they
are really trying not to sell crap. I'll buy from them again.

JP
**********************************
Disassembly/reassembly is frequently quicker, and results in MUCH
cleaner refinishing than trying to get crap out of every nook and
cranny all put together. YMMV.


This topic has 9 replies

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to Jay Pique on 24/11/2003 11:16 PM

25/11/2003 11:42 AM

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:49:32 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> My only "gripe" so far is that the variable burnisher sort of hops up
>> onto the edge of the scraper as you push it across, and then hops off
>> at the end. I sort of think it's just because you can't acutally see
>> the burnishing rod going across the surface, like you could with just
>> a steel bar. I was a bit concerned I might run the thing off the edge
>> an then gash my wrist on the scraper as it slid off the end. This has
>> NOT happened, and I feel very confident it won't - as the plastic
>> housing for the burnisher is of large enough size to pretty much
>> prevent it.
>
>
>IIRC the directions warn of this possibility and how to prevent it.
(you pull it towards you!)

Indeed they do! It's actually bold printed in a separately outlined
box next to a CAUTION! sign. Once I picked up the back of the box and
looked again I noticed it. In thinking further about how I initially
missed it, I can only come up with the following theory. After years
of reading stuff like "Caution - Contents are hot!" on the sides of
coffee cups, or "Caution - blades are sharp and can cut you." in
packaging for cutting instruments, I've just come to ingnore the
writing printed next to the word CAUTION as it's just common sense 98%
of the time. Friggin' lawyers....

JP
*************************************
WRT the instructions on the back of the cartons, I noticed it early
and was able to pull the plastic cover from the cardboard, as opposed
to shredding the cardboard from the plastic. Instructions intact.

tB

in reply to Jay Pique on 24/11/2003 11:16 PM

25/11/2003 12:22 PM

I too just recieved this set. I also ordered thier new shoulder plane.
Everything is awesome! I wish LV made microwaves and cars and
computers too, cause everything I have by them is fantastic.

I agree about putting the instructions on the back, they need to
include a sheet as most of their products require alot of instructions
especially for newbs like me.

I do feel however that the burnisher would be better if it were all
metal. I have found the edge of the scrapers catching on the plastic
and shaving a bit of plastic off every time I run it through.

Bob

[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in message news:<KLGwb.12654$P%[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>, Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> >My only "gripe" so far is that the variable burnisher sort of hops up
> >onto the edge of the scraper as you push it across, and then hops off
> >at the end. I sort of think it's just because you can't acutally see
> >the burnishing rod going across the surface, like you could with just
> >a steel bar. I was a bit concerned I might run the thing off the edge
> >an then gash my wrist on the scraper as it slid off the end.
>
> Pull the burnisher instead of pushing it, and it will be completely impossible
> to cut yourself on the scraper.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Jay Pique on 24/11/2003 11:16 PM

25/11/2003 9:18 PM


"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:49:32 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Indeed they do! It's actually bold printed in a separately outlined
> box next to a CAUTION! sign. Once I picked up the back of the box and
> looked again I noticed it. In thinking further about how I initially
> missed it, I can only come up with the following theory. After years
> of reading stuff like "Caution - Contents are hot!" on the sides of
> coffee cups, or "Caution - blades are sharp and can cut you." in
> packaging for cutting instruments, I've just come to ingnore the
> writing printed next to the word CAUTION as it's just common sense 98%
> of the time. Friggin' lawyers....
>


LOL... Sounds like me reading software agreements before installing.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Jay Pique on 24/11/2003 11:16 PM

25/11/2003 11:09 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote:
[snip]
>
>My only "gripe" so far is that the variable burnisher sort of hops up
>onto the edge of the scraper as you push it across, and then hops off
>at the end. I sort of think it's just because you can't acutally see
>the burnishing rod going across the surface, like you could with just
>a steel bar. I was a bit concerned I might run the thing off the edge
>an then gash my wrist on the scraper as it slid off the end.

Pull the burnisher instead of pushing it, and it will be completely impossible
to cut yourself on the scraper.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

Tt

Trent©

in reply to Jay Pique on 24/11/2003 11:16 PM

25/11/2003 9:25 AM

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:16:32 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I recently bought several Xmas gifts from Lee Valley, and included a
>"From Me To Me" in with the shipment. I purchased the Veritas
>Scraping Set, which includes the Veritas Variable Burnisher, Scraper
>Holder, Jointer/Edger, an 8" mill bastard file, and 4 Super Hard
>Milled Scrapers.

<snip>

Thanks for the review, Jay. Very nice.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Jay Pique on 24/11/2003 11:16 PM

25/11/2003 1:34 AM

Jay Pique wrote:

> probably don't have *the* lowest price on everything, it appears they
> are really trying not to sell crap. I'll buy from them again.

My someday list totals more than $1600, but it will take awhile. :) (The
set you speak of is on it, so it was good to hear your thoughts.)

My only beef with my only LV product (the ubiquitous honing guide/angle
setter combo) was that they printed the rather lengthy, detailed
instructions on the back of the package, but did not include an instruction
sheet. The package was tough to open, and I'm not a patient man when it
comes to such things, so I destroyed the packaging in the process of
extracting my new goodie.

Luckily I had already printed the instructions off the web site. No big
thing; just seemed like a lack of foresight.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to Jay Pique on 24/11/2003 11:16 PM

25/11/2003 1:17 PM

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:42:00 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
agreed:

>>IIRC the directions warn of this possibility and how to prevent it.
>(you pull it towards you!)
>
>Indeed they do! It's actually bold printed in a separately outlined
>box next to a CAUTION! sign. Once I picked up the back of the box and
>looked again I noticed it. In thinking further about how I initially
>missed it, I can only come up with the following theory. After years
>of reading stuff like "Caution - Contents are hot!" on the sides of
>coffee cups, or "Caution - blades are sharp and can cut you." in
>packaging for cutting instruments, I've just come to ingnore the
>writing printed next to the word CAUTION as it's just common sense 98%
>of the time. Friggin' lawyers....

Hey, I missed it too. Have been pushing it all these years.

Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" for real email address

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Jay Pique on 24/11/2003 11:16 PM

26/11/2003 11:04 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Bob) wrote:

>I do feel however that the burnisher would be better if it were all
>metal. I have found the edge of the scrapers catching on the plastic
>and shaving a bit of plastic off every time I run it through.
>
Scrapers are very hard. If the burnisher were all metal, you would find the
edge of the scrapers catching on the metal and shaving a bit of metal off
every time you run it through. :-)

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Jay Pique on 24/11/2003 11:16 PM

25/11/2003 4:49 AM


"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> My only "gripe" so far is that the variable burnisher sort of hops up
> onto the edge of the scraper as you push it across, and then hops off
> at the end. I sort of think it's just because you can't acutally see
> the burnishing rod going across the surface, like you could with just
> a steel bar. I was a bit concerned I might run the thing off the edge
> an then gash my wrist on the scraper as it slid off the end. This has
> NOT happened, and I feel very confident it won't - as the plastic
> housing for the burnisher is of large enough size to pretty much
> prevent it.


IIRC the directions warn of this possibility and how to prevent it.


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