On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 01:19:19 -0500, GregP <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:43:28 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I know that this is off topic in an already off topic thread but I
>>used to love that game that involved crossing the T -
>>.....
>
>
> OT post of the month.
exactly what the thread deserved
Regards,
Tom.
"People funny. Life a funny thing." Sonny Liston
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 02:53:20 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies5.htm
>
>
>
>JOAT
Very funny. Thanks.
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:56:08 -0500, Battleax <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> That's about as sad as the rest of JTs posts. Ignorant, useless, and
> uneducated.
As opposed to your stellar posting record, you mean? Sheesh.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:24:53 GMT, Lazarus Long <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10 Dec 2004 00:57:02 GMT, [email protected] (JMWEBER987) wrote:
>
>>It always amazes me that we dislike so intently, the country that fought and
>>won our American Revolution for us. Saved our ass they did by winning the
>>battle of Yorktown. Who knows what life might be like today without them. God
>>Bless them Everyone. Mike in Arkansas
>
> They've been more than paid back. They owe us now.
Yeah, we were even when we helped _them_ with their revolution. Everything
since then has been all us mopping up their mess.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:52:04 GMT, Bob Schmall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The United States has refused to endorse the Kyoto agreement. Do we owe it
> to anyone to do so, especially since the present management vigorously
> disagrees with it?
The Kyoto agreement is nothing but an international welfare scheme.
Unless you think that it will _actually_ cause industrialized nations
to substantially, immediately decrease emissions, that is. It'll just
result in industrialized countries "buying pollution credits from"
undeveloped countries. Translation: does squat for pollution and would
force us to give yet more money to countries who hate us.
Sorry, but Kyoto doesn't do what the treehuggers pretend it would.
...and I've planted close to 10,000 trees in my lifetime...
Dave Hinz
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:57:07 GMT, Mark Jerde <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>
>> I've planted close to 10,000 trees in my lifetime...
>
> THANK YOU!!!! Keep up the good work!!
Well, you know, everyone likes a nice piece of Ash sometimes. And walnut,
maple, oak, spruce, pine, fir, and cherry but they didn't take. Problem with
cherry is that you only get one shot at it.
Dave "20 acres of treefarm takes a while to prune every year, though..." Hinz
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:10:46 GMT, patriarch <> wrote:
> Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> The Kyoto agreement is nothing but an international welfare scheme.
>
> So, to restate Bob's point, nations should do what is in their perceived
> best interest, led by 'their current management'.
Right. Giving money to people who hate us is never in our best interest.
So, I agree with management.
> The details of Kyoto, whatever they are, aside.
If the criticism is about his handling of Kyoto, then it's central to
the point rather than aside.
> May the management be wise.
Indeed. Or at least more wise than the other option was.
GregP wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:03:49 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> (English ship had to sail out of the harbor
>> one at a time, only a few guns pointing forward, into a semi-circle
>> of French ships with all broadside guns ready & waiting. <g>)
>
>
> "Crossing the T"
Yup, like the Battle of Jutland. (IIRC)
-- Mark
"Morris Dovey" wrote in message
> Not much reported by the people quoted on that web page was the
> universally warm hospitality and (sometimes tearful) sympathy
> shown ordinary USAnians by ordinary French during those difficult
> days.
I met a lot of nice folks in my six weeks work/visit in France some 40 years
ago (I arrived in Paris from Australia, penniless, with a knapsack and a
EuRail pass to my name).
It was also one of the few places in the world I visited where I constantly
had to guard against being taken advantage of in the daily gamut of human
transactions, from money matters, to meals, to accommodations.
True, you can't generalize about nationality, but I am here to say that
there is certainly a germ of truth in nationalistic "impressions", at least
IME.
... and I grew up in a French speaking household.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 11/06/04
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies5.htm
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
> matter, and those who matter dont mind.
> - Dr Seuss
>
That's about as sad as the rest of JTs posts. Ignorant, useless, and
uneducated.
Battleax comments:
>"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies5.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> JOAT
>> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
>> matter, and those who matter dont mind.
>> - Dr Seuss
>>
>
>That's about as sad as the rest of JTs posts. Ignorant, useless, and
>uneducated.
Given the content of some of your posts, I'd say you're close to an expert on
lack of education.
Goodbye.
Charlie Self
"Cabbage: A familiar kitchen-garden vegetable about as large and wise as a
man's head." Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
Thu, Dec 9, 2004, 11:56am [email protected] (Battleax) says:
That's about as sad as the rest of JTs posts. Ignorant, useless, and
uneducated.
I'm crushed. But, what part of the OT (off topic) didn't you
understand?
JOAT
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
matter, and those who matter dont mind.
- Dr Seuss
J T wrote:
> http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies5.htm
>
> JOAT Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who
> mind dont matter, and those who matter dont mind. - Dr Seuss
I enjoyed the humor. A good joke is a good joke no matter who's
the target.
FWIW, I flew to France nine days after 9-11 for a three-week
vacation and spent about half of that time traveling by canal
(with at least daily stops in small towns for provisions) south
along the Saônne and the other half in Paris.
Not much reported by the people quoted on that web page was the
universally warm hospitality and (sometimes tearful) sympathy
shown ordinary USAnians by ordinary French during those difficult
days.
Some observations I can share concerning French women (worth
sharing because they were the subject of a couple of the jokes):
[1] The [all too] few that I was close enough to smell - in a
jam-packed Metro - smelled /delightful/. (-:
[2] Nowhere (in either cities or rural areas) did I notice the
fabled "hairyness".
[3] I saw a /lot/ fewer overweight women (and men, although I'm
better wired to notice women) than I see in the US.
Somehow it now seems childish to have made fun of the French for
acting on their determination that there weren't any stockpiles
of Iraqi WMD's or large-scale active WMD production programs.
Freedom fries, indeed. I don't even want to think about all of
the jokes now being made all around the world about USAnians -
though they're probably just the same jokes with all the
nationalities shifted.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:56:08 -0500, Battleax <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >
> > That's about as sad as the rest of JTs posts. Ignorant, useless, and
> > uneducated.
>
> As opposed to your stellar posting record, you mean? Sheesh.
>
I have no problem with 90% of my previous posts.
When I see ignorant intolerant posts I respond. I do the same face to face.
I will never turn a blind eye to this crap. When I see someone slurring a
group of people I go
after that person. I take particular pride in doing so in public as well.
Thu, Dec 9, 2004, 2:10pm [email protected] (Battleax) claims:
I have no problem with 90% of my previous posts. When I see ignorant
intolerant posts I respond. I do the same face to face. I will never
turn a blind eye to this crap. When I see someone slurring a group of
people I go after that person. I take particular pride in doing so in
public as well.
So, you claiming ou've never told a Catholic, Jewish, Polish, or
whatever joke in your life?
You have any Catholic friends? If you do, they must not tell
jokes. The best Catholic jokes I've heard were told by Catholics; best
Jewish jokes, by Jews; best Polish jokes, by Poles; and so on - and they
were all friends of mine.
I can't make a call on your ignorance, because I don't know you;
but, seems to me like you're pretty intolerant yourself.
JOAT
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
matter, and those who matter dont mind.
- Dr Seuss
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:57:07 GMT, Mark Jerde
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dave Hinz wrote:
>>
>>> I've planted close to 10,000 trees in my lifetime...
>>
>> THANK YOU!!!! Keep up the good work!!
>
> Well, you know, everyone likes a nice piece of Ash sometimes. And
> walnut,
> maple, oak, spruce, pine, fir, and cherry but they didn't take.
> Problem with cherry is that you only get one shot at it.
>
> Dave "20 acres of treefarm takes a while to prune every year,
> though..." Hinz
ROTFL!
-- Mark
Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:52:04 GMT, Bob Schmall <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> The United States has refused to endorse the Kyoto agreement. Do we
>> owe it to anyone to do so, especially since the present management
>> vigorously disagrees with it?
>
> The Kyoto agreement is nothing but an international welfare scheme.
So, to restate Bob's point, nations should do what is in their perceived
best interest, led by 'their current management'.
The details of Kyoto, whatever they are, aside.
May the management be wise.
Patriarch
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
>>
>> May the management be wise.
>
> This is the old "enlightened self interest" model in a new guise. It
> assumes an unreasonable degree of enlightenment IMO.
>
(Treading in deeper, when I should probably know better...)
What model would you suggest?
Surely _not_ that we select _even_less_intelligent leadership?
Patriarch
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:03:49 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>(English ship had to sail out of the harbor
>one at a time, only a few guns pointing forward, into a semi-circle of
>French ships with all broadside guns ready & waiting. <g>)
"Crossing the T"
patriarch wrote:
> Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:52:04 GMT, Bob Schmall <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The United States has refused to endorse the Kyoto agreement. Do we
>>> owe it to anyone to do so, especially since the present management
>>> vigorously disagrees with it?
>>
>> The Kyoto agreement is nothing but an international welfare scheme.
>
> So, to restate Bob's point, nations should do what is in their perceived
> best interest, led by 'their current management'.
>
> The details of Kyoto, whatever they are, aside.
>
> May the management be wise.
This is the old "enlightened self interest" model in a new guise. It
assumes an unreasonable degree of enlightenment IMO.
>
> Patriarch
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
patriarch wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> <snip>
>>>
>>> May the management be wise.
>>
>> This is the old "enlightened self interest" model in a new guise. It
>> assumes an unreasonable degree of enlightenment IMO.
>>
>
> (Treading in deeper, when I should probably know better...)
>
> What model would you suggest?
One which does not depend on every player believing that his "best interest"
is coincident with the "best interest" of the society as a whole.
> Surely _not_ that we select _even_less_intelligent leadership?
No, that we adopt a different model that is less dependent on good will.
>
> Patriarch
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
In article <[email protected]>,
Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> J T wrote:
>
> > http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies5.htm
> >
> > JOAT Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who
> > mind dont matter, and those who matter dont mind. - Dr Seuss
>
> I enjoyed the humor. A good joke is a good joke no matter who's
> the target.
>
> FWIW, I flew to France nine days after 9-11 for a three-week
> vacation and spent about half of that time traveling by canal
> (with at least daily stops in small towns for provisions) south
> along the Saônne and the other half in Paris.
[snip]
Jokes were funny... a bit stale.. but funny.
A little respect for the country that brought us Bardot....please.
Even in her seventies, she can still make a bishop kick out a stained
glass window.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:43:28 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>I know that this is off topic in an already off topic thread but I
>used to love that game that involved crossing the T -
>.....
OT post of the month.
So this is what you consider "culture" down there in Coon Squat?
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies5.htm
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
> matter, and those who matter dont mind.
> - Dr Seuss
>
Thu, Dec 9, 2004, 4:59pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bob=A0Schmall)
asks:
So this is what you consider "culture" down there in Coon Squat?
Sir, your abysmal ignorance astounds me. That is "Raccoon" Squat!
JOAT
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
matter, and those who matter dont mind.
- Dr Seuss
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thu, Dec 9, 2004, 4:59pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bob Schmall)
asks:
So this is what you consider "culture" down there in Coon Squat?
Sir, your abysmal ignorance astounds me. That is "Raccoon" Squat!
My ignorance may be abysmal, but it is also vincible. Thank you for the
pedagogical input; I go forth armed with new knowledge.
Fri, Dec 10, 2004, 2:34pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bob=A0Schmall)
pontificates:
My ignorance may be abysmal, but it is also vincible. Thank you for the
pedagogical input; I go forth armed with new knowledge.
You done good Grasshopper.
JOAT
Remember: Nova is Avon, spelled backwards.
Please add ;-) to my previous post. I ain't no battleax.
Bob
"Bob Schmall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:gw%[email protected]...
> So this is what you consider "culture" down there in Coon Squat?
>
> "J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies5.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> JOAT
>> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
>> matter, and those who matter dont mind.
>> - Dr Seuss
>>
>
>
Bob Schmall responds:
>Please add ;-) to my previous post. I ain't no battleax.
>
>Bob
>
>"Bob Schmall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:gw%[email protected]...
>> So this is what you consider "culture" down there in Coon Squat?
>>
>> "J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies5.htm
>>>
It ain't your fault JOAT lives in Coon Squat.
I'm one state up from him and about 30 miles from Big Lick (known these days as
Roanoke).
Charlie Self
"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
Thu, Dec 9, 2004, 8:45pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bob=A0Schmall)
claims:
Please add ;-) to my previous post. I ain't no battleax.
Oh, now you're trying to pass yourself off as cute, eh?
JOAT
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
matter, and those who matter dont mind.
- Dr Seuss
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thu, Dec 9, 2004, 8:45pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bob Schmall)
claims:
Please add ;-) to my previous post. I ain't no battleax.
Oh, now you're trying to pass yourself off as cute, eh?
Unsuccessfully, as always. ;-)
Fri, Dec 10, 2004, 2:32pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bob=A0Schmall)
laments:
Unsuccessfully, as always. ;-)
But, I'm sure your mother loves you.
JOAT
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
matter, and those who matter dont mind.
- Dr Seuss
On 10 Dec 2004 00:57:02 GMT, [email protected] (JMWEBER987) wrote:
>It always amazes me that we dislike so intently, the country that fought and
>won our American Revolution for us. Saved our ass they did by winning the
>battle of Yorktown. Who knows what life might be like today without them. God
>Bless them Everyone. Mike in Arkansas
They've been more than paid back. They owe us now.
"Lazarus Long" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 10 Dec 2004 00:57:02 GMT, [email protected] (JMWEBER987) wrote:
>
>>It always amazes me that we dislike so intently, the country that fought
>>and
>>won our American Revolution for us. Saved our ass they did by winning the
>>battle of Yorktown. Who knows what life might be like today without them.
>>God
>>Bless them Everyone. Mike in Arkansas
>
> They've been more than paid back. They owe us now.
Naahh. No one "owes" anything. France supported us in the Revolution for its
own reasons that had nothing to do with altruism. The assumption that there
is some kind of international scoreboard would lead to an impossible tangle
of obligations if it were true. The past is done, and whether a nation
supports another is rooted in an assessment of the present situation. France
and many other nations regard our war in Iraq as misguided, at best. Without
commenting on whether they are correct, I certainly think they have the
right to make their own call on it.
The United States has refused to endorse the Kyoto agreement. Do we owe it
to anyone to do so, especially since the present management vigorously
disagrees with it?
Another example, the majority of historians credit the Russians' effort in
World War II as the PRIMARY, but not only, reason the Allies pulled out the
victory. Do we "owe" Russia anything for it? Or do they "owe" us anything
for providing expertise in guiding them toward democracy after the collapse
of communism? (FYI, a group of economists gave them requested advice in the
early 90s)
Bob
Bob Schmall wrote:
>> They've been more than paid back. They owe us now.
>
> Naahh. No one "owes" anything. France supported us in the Revolution
> for its own reasons that had nothing to do with altruism.
Yup. France & England were in fights all over the globe. France gave just
enough help to keep a sizeable British force tied up for a number of years
in the American colonies. ;-) My Navy ROTC professor thought the French
probably didn't want to win the naval battle of Yorktown but the tactics
were just too good to pass up. (English ship had to sail out of the harbor
one at a time, only a few guns pointing forward, into a semi-circle of
French ships with all broadside guns ready & waiting. <g>)
-- Mark
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:01:33 -0500, GregP <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:03:49 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>(English ship had to sail out of the harbor
>>one at a time, only a few guns pointing forward, into a semi-circle of
>>French ships with all broadside guns ready & waiting. <g>)
>
>
> "Crossing the T"
I know that this is off topic in an already off topic thread but I
used to love that game that involved crossing the T - which might have
been called something as simple as "Battleship".
You know, the one where you lost masts and sails by engaging in an
unfortunate encounter.
We played that and then we played "Waterloo" and then we played
"Battle of Jutland - and then we went to Vietnam.
'Course, I don't really think that Milton Bradley killed people - I
thought that John Wayne killed people.
The Arts are a wonderful thing.
Regards,
Tom.
"People funny. Life a funny thing." Sonny Liston
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1