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"Spacecadet"

14/08/2005 7:09 PM

Newbie Finishing Question

Hi guys,

I'm very new to woodworking, and I'm making a large framed mirror.

The woodworking part, per se, has gone well: The frame is 4" wide
maple, about 48 inches tall and 21 inches wide.

Looks good. But I don't know how to finish it. I'm looking to get a
very deep, brown (with some red). So deep that it is almost black.

I'm aiming for something along the lines of this colour:

http://www.structube.com/docs/Tables/TableAximaBrunFonceZoomA.htm

I went and bought a whole whack of sample-size stain pouches to try
out. I also bought some surface sealer to (it claims) minimize the
splotching. But the colour I get just isn't very dark.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them.

Thanks!


This topic has 5 replies

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"Spacecadet"

in reply to "Spacecadet" on 14/08/2005 7:09 PM

15/08/2005 10:00 AM

Hi,

The frame is made from maple. I tried a bit of stain on a sample piece
without the sealer, and it blotched a *little*.

If I'm going for a deep colour, and I am willing to let the stain sit
for a while, will can I/should I skip the the sealer?

Thanks.


David wrote:
> Spacecadet wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'm very new to woodworking, and I'm making a large framed mirror.
> >
> > The woodworking part, per se, has gone well: The frame is 4" wide
> > maple, about 48 inches tall and 21 inches wide.
> >
> > Looks good. But I don't know how to finish it. I'm looking to get a
> > very deep, brown (with some red). So deep that it is almost black.
> >
> > I'm aiming for something along the lines of this colour:
> >
> > http://www.structube.com/docs/Tables/TableAximaBrunFonceZoomA.htm
> >
> > I went and bought a whole whack of sample-size stain pouches to try
> > out. I also bought some surface sealer to (it claims) minimize the
> > splotching. But the colour I get just isn't very dark.
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> Blotching is an issue with some wood species and not others. what wood
> is your project made from? The use of certain blotch-reducers will
> reduce the depth of color, so you might want to steer clear of their use
> if you want a deep color as in the link you provided.
>
> Dave

Wn

"Wayne"

in reply to "Spacecadet" on 14/08/2005 7:09 PM

15/08/2005 8:27 AM

That looks pretty black in the picture.

I have been making custom picture frames to complement photographs. I have
had the best luck using an assortment of stains from Constantines
(http://constantines.com/). For deep staining the alcohol based staind are
particularly nice, because they penetrate the wood and deepen as you apply.
You can mix colors and deepen or lighten the color as you go. For what you
want a mixture of walnut and cherry or mahogony might work nicely. If you
like a slight magenta cast add a touch of blue. I finish with several light
coats of thinned polyurethane (oil based if is going to be exposed to water)
or a so called "oil finish" which is usually dilute varnish in oil. Watco is
such a product, but I like "Tried and True" from Woodcraft Supply.

I would highly recommend "Understanding Wood Finishing" by flexnter.



"Scarfinger" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> On 14 Aug 2005 19:09:07 -0700, "Spacecadet" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi guys,
>>
>>I'm very new to woodworking, and I'm making a large framed mirror.
>>
>>The woodworking part, per se, has gone well: The frame is 4" wide
>>maple, about 48 inches tall and 21 inches wide.
>>
>>Looks good. But I don't know how to finish it. I'm looking to get a
>>very deep, brown (with some red). So deep that it is almost black.
>>
>>I'm aiming for something along the lines of this colour:
>>
>>http://www.structube.com/docs/Tables/TableAximaBrunFonceZoomA.htm
>>
>>I went and bought a whole whack of sample-size stain pouches to try
>>out. I also bought some surface sealer to (it claims) minimize the
>>splotching. But the colour I get just isn't very dark.
>>
>>If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them.
>>
>>Thanks!
>
> Maybe the look you are going for is "ebonizing".
> Google found:
> http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/forums/finishing.pl?read=421504
>
> Paul.
>

DD

David

in reply to "Spacecadet" on 14/08/2005 7:09 PM

15/08/2005 8:44 AM

Spacecadet wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I'm very new to woodworking, and I'm making a large framed mirror.
>
> The woodworking part, per se, has gone well: The frame is 4" wide
> maple, about 48 inches tall and 21 inches wide.
>
> Looks good. But I don't know how to finish it. I'm looking to get a
> very deep, brown (with some red). So deep that it is almost black.
>
> I'm aiming for something along the lines of this colour:
>
> http://www.structube.com/docs/Tables/TableAximaBrunFonceZoomA.htm
>
> I went and bought a whole whack of sample-size stain pouches to try
> out. I also bought some surface sealer to (it claims) minimize the
> splotching. But the colour I get just isn't very dark.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them.
>
> Thanks!
>
Blotching is an issue with some wood species and not others. what wood
is your project made from? The use of certain blotch-reducers will
reduce the depth of color, so you might want to steer clear of their use
if you want a deep color as in the link you provided.

Dave

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Spacecadet" on 14/08/2005 7:09 PM

15/08/2005 3:36 PM

"Spacecadet" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Hi,
>
> The frame is made from maple. I tried a bit of stain on a sample piece
> without the sealer, and it blotched a *little*.
>
> If I'm going for a deep colour, and I am willing to let the stain sit
> for a while, will can I/should I skip the the sealer?
>

You should point your browswer to www.homesteadfinishing.com, and read
their material.

And they are a good place to buy stuff you cannot easily find at your local
seller of wooddorking stuff.

Patriarch,
veteran of many finishing 'experiences'...

Sv

Scarfinger

in reply to "Spacecadet" on 14/08/2005 7:09 PM

15/08/2005 3:03 AM

On 14 Aug 2005 19:09:07 -0700, "Spacecadet" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hi guys,
>
>I'm very new to woodworking, and I'm making a large framed mirror.
>
>The woodworking part, per se, has gone well: The frame is 4" wide
>maple, about 48 inches tall and 21 inches wide.
>
>Looks good. But I don't know how to finish it. I'm looking to get a
>very deep, brown (with some red). So deep that it is almost black.
>
>I'm aiming for something along the lines of this colour:
>
>http://www.structube.com/docs/Tables/TableAximaBrunFonceZoomA.htm
>
>I went and bought a whole whack of sample-size stain pouches to try
>out. I also bought some surface sealer to (it claims) minimize the
>splotching. But the colour I get just isn't very dark.
>
>If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them.
>
>Thanks!

Maybe the look you are going for is "ebonizing".
Google found:
http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/forums/finishing.pl?read=421504

Paul.


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