Maybe not this much.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:78&item=6227796062
Saaaaay, does that iron look like an old file to you?
Rare indeed! <thud>
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On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:45:03 -0800, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>Maybe not this much.
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:78&item=6227796062
>
>Saaaaay, does that iron look like an old file to you?
>
>Rare indeed! <thud>
>
I don't think this is an adze, I think this is a wahintke. It is a scraper used to remove the thin
membrane from the inside/outside of a deer, buffalo, elk, etc. hide. Could also be used to remove
the fat before drying the hide. As to the value, well, do you watch the Antiques Road Show?
Watched one episode where an old wool blanket, a Navaho Chief's blanket to be precise, was estimated
at $350,000 US on a BAD day, and should go for more than $500,000. The guy kept it on the back of
his easy chair.
Very brief ramble on brain tanning and use of wahintke follows.
The hide was mounted in a frame. In a buffalo's case, it was staked to the ground, all fat removed,
and the hide allowed to dry to rawhide. The wahintke was sharpened as much as possible. With the
hide stretched tight you could scrape the hair and membrane off the hair side, then repeat the
process on the flesh side. Scrapings from the flesh side were used for glue making (hide glue).
Once all the membrane was removed, the hide was ready to be brain-tanned. We'll skip a couple
paragraphs of description here of making brain solution, soaking, wringing (hide not hands), and
about 8 hours of real time.
Once the hide is restrung in the frame, you begin working it dry. Lots of things work as a tool
here. Baseball bat, canoe paddle handle. The trick is to rub the hide as much and as hard as you
can to stretch the leather fibers until it is completely dry. You don't want it to dry too fast or
it won't be as soft as it could be. 6 hours is about right. A wahintke is just about perfect for
this. I discovered this on the first brain-tan hides I ever did. I found I had not gotten all the
membrane off, so had some hard spots on the hide. I grabbed the wahintke (hey, I had a dozen hours
into this deer hide at this point) to try to remove the membrane before the thing dried and I had to
start all over again. It actually did take the membrane off (amazing considering how slick a
deerhide soaked in brain solution is) and turned out one of the most soft and fluffy deer hides I
have ever seen. Unfortunately, this is fluffy rawhide, and the first time it gets wet, it will turn
into shrunken hard rawhide. So the next step is to smoke the hide (yeah, yeah, I know. They're
hard to light.) for 4-8 hours depending on the method you use. Large pamphlets/small books written
on this subject.
Anyway, you end up with a chunk of leather softer than the flannel used to pat a baby's butt, with a
distinctive wood smoke smell. It gradually fades. 3-5 more northern-sized whitetail hides and you
have enough for a set of leggings, breechcloth and a shirt, . Scraps would be used for mocs, bags
or to tie your set of Mother of All Pointy Sticks to your ponies (well your woman would. Tipi's
belonged to the women, not the men.) when moving camp. Heck, you can even eat it if you get
desperate enough (Donner party).
Regards,
Roy
Sounds reasonable, he says it's worth ten times the asking price. And you
also get a dollar off shipping if you pay by money order.
B.
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe not this much.
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:78&item=6227796062
>
> Saaaaay, does that iron look like an old file to you?
>
> Rare indeed! <thud>
>
>
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:08:28 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
> "SteveB" <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>
> >
> >"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:13:47 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
> >> "SteveB" <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
> >>
> >>>We learned a new thing on ebay. We offer an item for sale that we have
> >>>multiples of. Let's say we would take $6 for it, but it sells for $9.35.
> >>>We now can go down the bidders and offer every one who bid over what we
> >>>wanted for it ($6) and sell multiple items with only one listing fee.
> >>>AND,
> >>>if we want, we can go further down the list until we reach our minimum
> >>>price. Pretty neat.
> >>
> >> Is this with eBay's knowledge and blessings, Steve?
> >
> >Definitely. Every transaction goes through them, and final fee collected.
>
> Great, good to know.
It's called a "Second Chance Offer." eBay encourages it. It even
reminds you which of your sold items are eligible to make SCOs.
Watch out for fake SCO offers from scammers.
"To be sure a Second Chance Offer is legitimate, go to www.ebay.com,
and click on My eBay. Then sign in and make sure the Second Chance
Offer appears there [in My Messages. You should also see a note in
Didn't Win next to the original item.] eBay will never send a Second
Chance Offer email with the subject line "Question from eBay Member."
If you receive an email pretending to be a Second Chance Offer with
that subject line, please report it to eBay. You can report this type
of email from the Misuse of the Contact an eBay Member Feature page."
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:13:47 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
"SteveB" <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>We learned a new thing on ebay. We offer an item for sale that we have
>multiples of. Let's say we would take $6 for it, but it sells for $9.35.
>We now can go down the bidders and offer every one who bid over what we
>wanted for it ($6) and sell multiple items with only one listing fee. AND,
>if we want, we can go further down the list until we reach our minimum
>price. Pretty neat.
Is this with eBay's knowledge and blessings, Steve?
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:08:28 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
"SteveB" <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>
>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:13:47 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
>> "SteveB" <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>>
>>>We learned a new thing on ebay. We offer an item for sale that we have
>>>multiples of. Let's say we would take $6 for it, but it sells for $9.35.
>>>We now can go down the bidders and offer every one who bid over what we
>>>wanted for it ($6) and sell multiple items with only one listing fee.
>>>AND,
>>>if we want, we can go further down the list until we reach our minimum
>>>price. Pretty neat.
>>
>> Is this with eBay's knowledge and blessings, Steve?
>
>Definitely. Every transaction goes through them, and final fee collected.
Great, good to know.
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:51:46 -0800, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:48:30 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, mac
>davis <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>
>>On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:45:03 -0800, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>depends on the amount of sag and who it's attached to..
>
><groan>
>
>Hey, everyone likes a little adze. Nobody likes a smart adze.
>(Touchè!)
>
very good, larry!
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:48:30 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, mac
davis <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:45:03 -0800, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
>wrote:
>
>depends on the amount of sag and who it's attached to..
<groan>
Hey, everyone likes a little adze. Nobody likes a smart adze.
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 04:09:03 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't understand what he means by saying he will except the best offer.
>Does that mean he will accept the second best? Why?
It's a fairly recent thing eBay has introduced. There is auction
format and fixed price format. Now with best offer you can have a
fixed price but people can make an offer below that and the seller can
chose whether to accept it. It's an alternative to auction format
with a reserve. There's a whopping fee for setting a reserve while
best offer is free.
-Leuf
"Dhakala" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> It's called a "Second Chance Offer." eBay encourages it. It even
> reminds you which of your sold items are eligible to make SCOs.
>
> Watch out for fake SCO offers from scammers.
>
> "To be sure a Second Chance Offer is legitimate, go to www.ebay.com,
> and click on My eBay. Then sign in and make sure the Second Chance
> Offer appears there [in My Messages. You should also see a note in
> Didn't Win next to the original item.] eBay will never send a Second
> Chance Offer email with the subject line "Question from eBay Member."
> If you receive an email pretending to be a Second Chance Offer with
> that subject line, please report it to eBay. You can report this type
> of email from the Misuse of the Contact an eBay Member Feature page."
>
Was it Yogi or Lasorda that said, "You can see a lot by observing."?
I have been doing ebay for years, and am a Power Seller. And I just found
out about it last month.
DUH!
Steve
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:13:47 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
> "SteveB" <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>
>>We learned a new thing on ebay. We offer an item for sale that we have
>>multiples of. Let's say we would take $6 for it, but it sells for $9.35.
>>We now can go down the bidders and offer every one who bid over what we
>>wanted for it ($6) and sell multiple items with only one listing fee.
>>AND,
>>if we want, we can go further down the list until we reach our minimum
>>price. Pretty neat.
>
> Is this with eBay's knowledge and blessings, Steve?
>
>
Definitely. Every transaction goes through them, and final fee collected.
Steve
In article <[email protected]>,
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> Saaaaay, does that iron look like an old file to you?
The Mayans were into Adztech weren't they?
10- fricking- K
I am willing to bet that the guy selling it has a brother in a very high
place in Nigeria.
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:45:03 -0800, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>Maybe not this much.
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:78&item=6227796062
>
>Saaaaay, does that iron look like an old file to you?
>
>Rare indeed! <thud>
He claims it's priceless and then puts a price on it...
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Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
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Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
That's $9999.95 more that I would pay. The shipping seems reasonable.
Happy Holidays.
Larry Jaques wrote:
> Maybe not this much.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:78&item=6227796062
>
> Saaaaay, does that iron look like an old file to you?
>
> Rare indeed! <thud>
>
>
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:55:52 -0500, "Battleax" <[email protected]> wrote:
<huge snip of some terrific writing>
>
>It's from the BC coast, it's an adze
I looked at the pic again, and I think you're right. The angle is too acute for it to be a good
hide scraper.
Regards,
Roy
"Roy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:45:03 -0800, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
> >Maybe not this much.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:78&i
tem=6227796062
> >
> >Saaaaay, does that iron look like an old file to you?
> >
> >Rare indeed! <thud>
> >
> I don't think this is an adze, I think this is a wahintke. It is a
scraper used to remove the thin
> membrane from the inside/outside of a deer, buffalo, elk, etc. hide.
Could also be used to remove
> the fat before drying the hide. As to the value, well, do you watch the
Antiques Road Show?
> Watched one episode where an old wool blanket, a Navaho Chief's blanket to
be precise, was estimated
> at $350,000 US on a BAD day, and should go for more than $500,000. The
guy kept it on the back of
> his easy chair.
>
> Very brief ramble on brain tanning and use of wahintke follows.
>
> The hide was mounted in a frame. In a buffalo's case, it was staked to
the ground, all fat removed,
> and the hide allowed to dry to rawhide. The wahintke was sharpened as
much as possible. With the
> hide stretched tight you could scrape the hair and membrane off the hair
side, then repeat the
> process on the flesh side. Scrapings from the flesh side were used for
glue making (hide glue).
>
> Once all the membrane was removed, the hide was ready to be brain-tanned.
We'll skip a couple
> paragraphs of description here of making brain solution, soaking, wringing
(hide not hands), and
> about 8 hours of real time.
>
> Once the hide is restrung in the frame, you begin working it dry. Lots of
things work as a tool
> here. Baseball bat, canoe paddle handle. The trick is to rub the hide as
much and as hard as you
> can to stretch the leather fibers until it is completely dry. You don't
want it to dry too fast or
> it won't be as soft as it could be. 6 hours is about right. A wahintke
is just about perfect for
> this. I discovered this on the first brain-tan hides I ever did. I found
I had not gotten all the
> membrane off, so had some hard spots on the hide. I grabbed the wahintke
(hey, I had a dozen hours
> into this deer hide at this point) to try to remove the membrane before
the thing dried and I had to
> start all over again. It actually did take the membrane off (amazing
considering how slick a
> deerhide soaked in brain solution is) and turned out one of the most soft
and fluffy deer hides I
> have ever seen. Unfortunately, this is fluffy rawhide, and the first time
it gets wet, it will turn
> into shrunken hard rawhide. So the next step is to smoke the hide (yeah,
yeah, I know. They're
> hard to light.) for 4-8 hours depending on the method you use. Large
pamphlets/small books written
> on this subject.
>
> Anyway, you end up with a chunk of leather softer than the flannel used to
pat a baby's butt, with a
> distinctive wood smoke smell. It gradually fades. 3-5 more
northern-sized whitetail hides and you
> have enough for a set of leggings, breechcloth and a shirt, . Scraps
would be used for mocs, bags
> or to tie your set of Mother of All Pointy Sticks to your ponies (well
your woman would. Tipi's
> belonged to the women, not the men.) when moving camp. Heck, you can even
eat it if you get
> desperate enough (Donner party).
>
> Regards,
> Roy
>
It's from the BC coast, it's an adze
"Leuf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 04:09:03 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I don't understand what he means by saying he will except the best offer.
>>Does that mean he will accept the second best? Why?
>
> It's a fairly recent thing eBay has introduced. There is auction
> format and fixed price format. Now with best offer you can have a
> fixed price but people can make an offer below that and the seller can
> chose whether to accept it. It's an alternative to auction format
> with a reserve. There's a whopping fee for setting a reserve while
> best offer is free.
>
>
> -Leuf
We learned a new thing on ebay. We offer an item for sale that we have
multiples of. Let's say we would take $6 for it, but it sells for $9.35.
We now can go down the bidders and offer every one who bid over what we
wanted for it ($6) and sell multiple items with only one listing fee. AND,
if we want, we can go further down the list until we reach our minimum
price. Pretty neat.
STeve