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[email protected] (Glenna Rose)

18/01/2005 9:48 AM

Re: Buying A Table Saw

[email protected] writes:
>
>USENET has also mentioned that these tools have their place. In the
>hands of "yuppei housewives" as mentioned by one other poster to this
>group.

Watch it there, Buddy!
<g>
There's a lot of us "housewives" out there who use woodworking tools (and
do it quite successfully). It's been my experience that those
"housewives" are more discriminating as a whole than are their male
counterparts. Most us ladies tend to buy tools, of any kind, more
carefully being very aware they will last us for a long, long time. We,
more than men, tend to keep the same ol' reliables around for decades so
choose more carefully in the beginning. Men, as a rule, tend to want
bigger and better to keep up with their buddies. Nothing wrong with that
because they buy and manufacturers come up with better (hopefully!) to
sell to them and we all benefit.

There are, of course, exceptions to that, but looking at the wide
spectrum, that is the way it is.

Advertisers know this, especially auto-related, which is why it is so less
common see a "hunk" in car advertisements. They know most female buyers
aren't going to be swayed by a good-looking body/face to buy something
that's not best for their uses. Yet, women make more than 50 percent of
auto-buying decisions. Go figure.

All that said knowing full well that relatively few women will ever buy a
power tool. Heck, we don't need to; when the man gets itchy feet, he goes
out the door and we get all of his! (Of course, in my case, he rarely
used them anyway, he just bought them to do various projects that rarely
were ever done. I do very much appreciate that he looked for the best
quality we could afford at the time, and all U.S.A. made.)

Glenna
Never shopped at WM
and likely never will.


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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to [email protected] (Glenna Rose) on 18/01/2005 9:48 AM

19/01/2005 11:20 AM

"Glenna Rose" wrote in message

> Watch it there, Buddy!
> <g>
> There's a lot of us "housewives" out there who use woodworking tools (and
> do it quite successfully).

Witness that you left out the "yuppie" part ... a big difference, and the
existence of whom can not be denied.

> It's been my experience that those
> "housewives" are more discriminating as a whole than are their male
> counterparts. Most us ladies tend to buy tools, of any kind, more
> carefully being very aware they will last us for a long, long time. We,
> more than men, tend to keep the same ol' reliables around for decades so
> choose more carefully in the beginning. Men, as a rule, tend to want
> bigger and better to keep up with their buddies. Nothing wrong with that
> because they buy and manufacturers come up with better (hopefully!) to
> sell to them and we all benefit.

I'm thinking you've perhpas been watching way too many TV commercials.

Granted "doofus americanus" (you know, the guy with the constipated look on
his face, shaking his fist in the air, forcefully exclaiming "YEAH! whenever
some over paid sports figure scores) does exist and is rightly portrayed in
many of them these days .. but I seriously doubt the species buys that many
tools, and you will find about as many of them here as "yuppie housewifes".

> There are, of course, exceptions to that, but looking at the wide
> spectrum, that is the way it is.

For an alternate take, Google the countless tool buyng threads wRec down
through the years, most of them dripping with "discrmination".

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Last update: 11/06/04

Ud

Usenet

in reply to [email protected] (Glenna Rose) on 18/01/2005 9:48 AM

18/01/2005 6:47 PM

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:48:59 -0800, [email protected] (Glenna Rose)
wrote:

>[email protected] writes:
>>
>>USENET has also mentioned that these tools have their place. In the
>>hands of "yuppei housewives" as mentioned by one other poster to this
>>group.
>
>Watch it there, Buddy!
><g>
>There's a lot of us "housewives" out there who use woodworking tools (and
>do it quite successfully). It's been my experience that those
>"housewives" are more discriminating as a whole than are their male
>counterparts. Most us ladies tend to buy tools, of any kind, more
>carefully being very aware they will last us for a long, long time. We,
>more than men, tend to keep the same ol' reliables around for decades so
>choose more carefully in the beginning. Men, as a rule, tend to want
>bigger and better to keep up with their buddies. Nothing wrong with that
>because they buy and manufacturers come up with better (hopefully!) to
>sell to them and we all benefit.
>
>There are, of course, exceptions to that, but looking at the wide
>spectrum, that is the way it is.
>
>Advertisers know this, especially auto-related, which is why it is so less
>common see a "hunk" in car advertisements. They know most female buyers
>aren't going to be swayed by a good-looking body/face to buy something
>that's not best for their uses. Yet, women make more than 50 percent of
>auto-buying decisions. Go figure.
>
>All that said knowing full well that relatively few women will ever buy a
>power tool. Heck, we don't need to; when the man gets itchy feet, he goes
>out the door and we get all of his! (Of course, in my case, he rarely
>used them anyway, he just bought them to do various projects that rarely
>were ever done. I do very much appreciate that he looked for the best
>quality we could afford at the time, and all U.S.A. made.)
>
>Glenna
>Never shopped at WM
>and likely never will.

Ma'am,

I am not the one who refered to anyone as a "yuppie housewife." I was
merely quoting a poster to my original response.

I agree with you. The ego kicks in when it comes to most of these guys
out here. This is why at least a couple of them are getting so
defensive over their Ridgid tools. Hey, it keeps Home Depot in
business. That must be a good thing in these guy's minds.
Unfortunately, they don't realize... Home Depot is slowly gaining
momentum in almost every aspect of home building and mantinance,
something some of these guys do for a living. Eventually, Home Depot
will be the only place you'll be able to buy your power tools,
gardening equipment, have a roof installed, windows installed, doors
installed, counter tops installed, carpet installed, tile installed,
etc. You can buy all your materials there all your tools there and if
you don't want to do that, they will do the work for you! These people
are patronizing their soon-to-be #1 competition! They're already HUGE,
they're getting bigger, and these people are fools not to see that.
Soon, they won't be competition for Home Depot, they'll be PART of
Home Depot's Pro Installation Team or whatever they call themselvs.

Some of my best customers are female. I appreciate their business.
And, I try my best to advise them on the best tool for the job. My
posts to this group were never intended to bash anyone (person, group
of people, or otherwise). They have been intended to inform people
that Ridgid tools are not all they are cracked up to be. I have stated
before that Ridgid tools have their place. And that is, right along
side the Craftsman, Harbor Freight, and Black and Decker tools that
sell in the lower price ranges. For the most part, they are cheaply
made tools. They do not hold up under the rigors of regular, heavy
use. There are tools out there that will.

I do not advise any of my customers (male or female) to buy Ridgid
tools. I don't advise my customers to buy Hitachi. Not because Hitachi
makes poor quality or over priced tool, but because in MY area Hitachi
does not have good LOCAL service. Hitachi, Makita, Dewalt, Bosch,
Porter Cable, Bostitch, in general, all make very good tools. Ridgid,
however, does not. They have very poor after the sale service. Their
service centers (all authorized - no factory) only get paid on their
labor once a year (this is why most repairs take a minimum of 3 months
to complete). They discontinue tools and within 4 years parts are no
longer available. Their only distributor is Home Depot.

Now, I don't know, but, is there the possibility that somewhere up the
corporate chain, one of the parent companies of Home Depot is also the
parent company of Ridgid?

My dad always told me not to put all my eggs into one basket. Yet,
it's awefully funny that Home Depot is the only distributor of Ridgid
and Ryobi tools. One BIG egg. One BIG basket.

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Usenet on 18/01/2005 6:47 PM

19/01/2005 10:51 AM

Usenet writes:

>Now, I don't know, but, is there the possibility that somewhere up the
>corporate chain, one of the parent companies of Home Depot is also the
>parent company of Ridgid?

You got that right. You don't know.

>My dad always told me not to put all my eggs into one basket. Yet,
>it's awefully funny that Home Depot is the only distributor of Ridgid
>and Ryobi tools. One BIG egg. One BIG basket.

That's a business decision for Ryobi's parent company, and they seem to like
it, so far.



Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush


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