Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
Most specifically:
http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
O'Deen
> $#!#!$#%
> we'll talk in the summer when the shoe is on the other foot
>
> Frank
> (it's snowing right now)
That's why I like Seattle. It is rarely too hot, nor too cold.
Of course, you get to decide real quick that using finishes which aren't
usable indoors means you're limited to 2 days/year that you can finish.
--randy
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<jake@di\/ersify.com> says...
> On 24 Nov 2003 18:09:47 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> >Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
> >
> >While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> >fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> >portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> >woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
> I did some of that this weekend despite the 30F temps.
> http://diversify.com/pics/debridge2.jpg
>
Nice-looking bridge Larry. Umm, I don't know how to put this, but you
seem to have mis-placed the stream.
At least he has enough sense to stay the heck out of/away from
California. From a Southerner!
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:41:12 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Tom Watson wrote:
>
>> I hate you.
>
>You live in Yankee Land. You hate everybody. Goes with the territory.
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:41:12 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Tom Watson wrote:
>
>> I hate you.
>
>You live in Yankee Land. You hate everybody. Goes with the territory.
WHOA! You just haven't been to the right parts of Yankee Land.
I hate no one.
Barry
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
Ya got nothin' on us. Last year my neighbor an were woodworking outdoors
at night in January here in Buffalo, NY. We were actually sweating.
Okay, were were shoring up his garage roof that was about to collapse from
the snow load while his '57 Chevy was parked inside.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
> Silvan wrote:
> > (As long as it's some place with a Burger King, so I don't starve to death.
> > Therein lies the problem. At real Mexican restaurants, I eat a lot of
> > plain tortillas and drink a lot of margaritas. That's about all the
> > Mexican cuisine I have the stomach for.)
If you get the chance, try cecina de res. Sort of make it yourself
fajitas with a different taste. Afraid you won't find it at Tippy's or
Anita's.
Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
Sorry for being tardy. I just now saw this thread. Nothing to get up set
about. However, you suck! There I said it.
bh
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
> Most specifically:
>
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
>
> O'Deen
So, when you planning on building the stream for under the bridge?
Renata
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 03:12:51 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
>
>I did some of that this weekend despite the 30F temps.
>http://diversify.com/pics/debridge2.jpg
>
>
>>Most specifically:
>>
>>http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
>
>Ah, I see that you used fine jummywood, too. I used poisoned
>jummywood (in 2 flavors!) for the little bridge. Now to put
>in the walkway...oh my aching back.
>
>P.S: Your pushsticks appear quite lively. Are they fully thawed?
>
>P.P.S: That's right. C-less actually did some woodworking this
>past weekend.
>
>-
> Don't be a possum on the Information Superhighway of life.
> ----
> http://diversify.com Dynamic Database-Driven Websites
No, no, no. When it's that nice outside, you should be taking
advantage of the weather in ways other than ww'g (take the little lady
out on a picnic or sumpin'). In fact, I tend to drop ww'g when it's
summery outside (outdoor projects are more carpentry than ww'g, so
they don't count) and wait til the cold hits to get into the shop more
regularly. 'Course, the shop's in a nice heated basement.
Renata
On 24 Nov 2003 18:09:47 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:
>Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
>While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
>fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
>portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
>woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
>Most specifically:
>
>http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
>
>O'Deen
"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
$#!#!$#%
we'll talk in the summer when the shoe is on the other foot
Frank
(it's snowing right now)
Denis wrote:
> You are not the only one with the onion problem. I love them, but
> can't stomach them! Buddy of mine is somewhat the same way, only he
> gets sick as a dog! I think he is where they coined the phrase
> "projectile vomiting" from!
No projectile vomiting, but I could fill the Hindenberg with all the gas I
produce. Between the back to back 25-second long expulsions of flatus and
the perpetual vurps, eating just a small chunk of onion is a miserable
experience.
I have the same problem with most varieties of pepper. I can eat chile
powder, and cayenne (I think that's a ground up pepper) in moderation, but
bell peppers, jalapeños, etc., hooooo boy.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Been to Jersey once. Never again. Some time before that, I worked with a guy
that was born and raised there. He described it as "the armpit of the US". I
find no reason to say otherwise.
"TomL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I only hate the soccer moms in their 25' SUV/LandBoats who drive the
> kids to school with one hand on the cell phone and the other applying
> their eye makeup. Other than that, I love NJ !!
>
> TomL
>
> >>
> >>You live in Yankee Land. You hate everybody. Goes with the territory.
> >
> >WHOA! You just haven't been to the right parts of Yankee Land.
> >
> >I hate no one.
> >
> >Barry
>
[Apollyloggies this response is so late. I missed this thread
before.]
[email protected] (Patrick Olguin) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
Don't forget Tejas. I was out last night in shorts drawknifing a
mesquite log for a carving I'm doing for SMBO for xmas. And I was
sweating ... bigtime.
Also, SWMBO and I were in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico for the
holidays, and we are *seriously* considering retiring there. That
place will put SoCal, Zona and Fla to shame for year-round
woodworking. We had 5 days with zero clouds and temps that ranged
from the upper 40's to upper 70's each day. During the hot season it
runs about 55-85.
Plus, I wouldn't feel so out-of-place doing Neander woodworking
down there. :-)
> Most specifically:
>
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
Yo, O'Deen ... what's up with using those sissy gloves when
planing? Don't let CW see ya.
Chuck Vance
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Conan The Librarian wrote:
>
> > It's a shame how many folks go to a border-town and proclaim that
> > they don't like "Mexico". IMHO, border-towns show the *worst* elements
> > of life in Mexico, as all the hustlers and folks out to make a quick
> > buck congregate there.
>
> So I've heard. I figure the same would hold true to some extent somewhere
> like Puerto Vallarta or Acapulco too.
Yep. The big beaches and the border towns are the worst. I've
found that the best way to plan a vacation is to find out where the
Mexican families go when they travel.
> No, the place I'm thinking of serves pretty genuine everyday Mexican food.
> I just don't like much variety in my diet, let's put it that way.
>
> One big reason why I've never been a world traveller. Even if I could come
> up with the money, what would I do for food once I ran out of trail
> mix? :)
That's a shame. For me a big part of traveling is trying the
different regional cuisines. SWMBO makes fun of me, because I'm
always asking folks in restaurants to tell *me* what I should eat.
(She's Canuckistani, though, so she doesn't really know anything about
cuisine besides moose jerky, back bacon and Molson.)
Of course I also like all kinds of chiles and spicy things.
> Most of it has onions in it though, hot or not. Everybody the world over
> has a love affair with those things for some reason. I just don't get it.
>
> Can you imagine what it would be like to have to avoid onions? I'll bet
> everyone else on the Wreck loves them. I'm a freak. I *must* be a freak,
> because people from all sorts of culiary backgrounds use onions in
> everything.
That *is* tough. I can think of any number of cuisines that base
almost everything on onions, garlic, and bell pepper. Even SWMBO, who
hates raw onions, loves them sauteed or in sauces.
Chuck Vance
On 24 Nov 2003 18:09:47 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
scribbled
>Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
>While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
>fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
>portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
>woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
I can enjoy outdoor wooddorking anytime I want, just have to put on my
insulated coveralls. Besides it is night here, most of the time
anyhow. My mitre saw is outdoors right now - all I need to do is brush
off the fluffy light-as-feathers snow, remove the tarp, plug it in &
there I go.
The real question is: can you walk, bicycle, ski and swim outdoors
year round, and do it all without breaking out in a sweat? I can!
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Luigi
The "no" in my reply address is actually "yk", which stands for Yukon.
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:38:12 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:17:59 -0500, Silvan
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>In all seriousness, I've found people in the north in big cities are just
>>mind bogglingly hateful toward each other all day long. It's real culture
>>shock for a southern boy,
>
>Damn right. Why be hateful to someone all day when you can just shoot
>them in the morning and be done with it. 8-)
here here !!!!! skeez
I think Northern Cal should become a separate state, since we share
little with Lala land. AND please keep Michael Jackson down there.
No way would I be working outside at night this week. Maybe a brisk
walk with a jacket on, but no comfortable woodworking outside.
dave
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
> Most specifically:
>
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
>
> O'Deen
Tom Watson wrote:
> I hate you.
You live in Yankee Land. You hate everybody. Goes with the territory.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
>>> I hate you.
>>
>>You live in Yankee Land. You hate everybody. Goes with the territory.
>
> WHOA! You just haven't been to the right parts of Yankee Land.
>
> I hate no one.
You must be one of those Yankee redneck types then. :)
In all seriousness, I've found people in the north in big cities are just
mind bogglingly hateful toward each other all day long. It's real culture
shock for a southern boy, even though nobody I know in the real south would
even consider a Virginian a southern boy.
(We're sort of stuck in the middle. Hillbillies to you Yankees, Yankees to
the people from North Carolina southward. We can't win.)
I've met a few nice people in the more remote parts of Pennsylvania, and
even one really good guy in Quakertown, so no, I don't really think you're
all like that. A lot of you are though. Just a culture thing. I think
the rudeness is a function of population density over time. I think the
South hasn't been urbanized long enough for our city people to get that
nasty, but they're working on it.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On 24 Nov 2003 18:09:47 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:
>While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
>fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
>portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
>woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
But we have trees locally, not desert (of the sandy and the concrete
/ tarmac varieties)
On 24 Nov 2003 18:09:47 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:
>Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
>While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
>fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
>portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
>woodworking... at night!
I'll say the same to you that I say to cyclists from your area. Let's
chat next August. <G>
Barry
"CW" writes:
> That's sure not enough to justify living there. Then again, there is no
good
> reason to live there.
I love it, the campaign is working.
Please stay away.
There are already to many of us here.
--
Lew
S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2 Dec 2003 06:14:52 -0800, [email protected] (Conan the Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> > Also, SWMBO and I were in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico for the
> >holidays, and we are *seriously* considering retiring there. That
> >place will put SoCal, Zona and Fla to shame for year-round
> >woodworking. We had 5 days with zero clouds and temps that ranged
> >from the upper 40's to upper 70's each day. During the hot season it
> >runs about 55-85.
>
Hey Vato. If you are really athletic, you can go to this trailer park near
Otay Mesa in SoCal. I know this guy, he is a coyote. At night he takes the
fence down by the trailer park and 500 Mexicans run into the United States.
If you talk to him and don't get trampled, he will let you into Mexico for
only $100 dollars. Mexico rules man.
Well maybe, but at least up here near Seattle we actually know what a
cathouse is.....
--
Larry C in Auburn, WA
"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
> Most specifically:
>
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
>
> O'Deen
In article <[email protected]>,
Patrick Olguin <[email protected]> wrote:
>Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
>While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
>fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
>portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
>woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
Hey Paddy, I just bought 300 bf of ash @ $1.25/bf. What do you SoCal
folks pay? :-)
--
Scott Post [email protected] http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/
Just say, had to cough up an extortionist $1.50/bf for walnut.
"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:50:43 -0600, Conan The Librarian <[email protected]>
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> >Larry Jaques wrote:
> >
> >
> >> [retiring to SMA]
> >>
> >> Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
> >> from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
> >> http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
> >
> > I hadn't heard about that particular case, but it doesn't surprise
> >me. Luckily, it won't effect my plans. Despite isolated incidents like
> >that, the Mexican government has made it much easier for gabachos to buy
> >houses and such in recent years.
Technically, gabachos are French. But it is OK, you are a pinche gringo.
>
> That's TODAY's Mexican government. What about next year's? And the
> different one a few years later? It's less stable than ours, y'know.
> (But the US is doing things to change that. We'll be as unstable as
> they are shortly, especially if the Shrub makes it back in.)
>
>
> > As far as I'm concerned, there's only one SMA ... the one in
> >Guanajuato. Lovely colonial town in a high-desert plateau of about 6000
> >feet. It's a designated historical landmark, and new buildings have to
> >be approved under strict guidelines.
>
> That's much safer than being anywhere near the locos in Mazatlan.
>
>
> > It's also a prime location in Mexico; almost at the geographical
> >center (the city of Guanajuato is supposedly the exact center), and
> >within a day's drive of beaches, mountains, etc., etc.
> >
> > But don't tell anyone about it, OK? It's getting crowded enough as
> >it is. Damned Americans all over the place. :-)
>
> Up here in Southern Oregon it's the damned Californicators. They're
> everywhere! ;)
>
>
> > I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I've flown Mexicana and
> >Aeromexico probably a dozen times without a problem. In fact, one of
> >the scariest flights I've ever been on was on Aeromexico as we were
> >crossing the Gulf on the way to the Yucatan. We got into the middle of
> >a nasty electrical storm and to this day I'm not sure how we made it
> >through unscathed. When we finally touched down, most of the passengers
> >went up to shake the hand of our (Mexican) pilot and thank him for
> >getting us in safely.
>
> Our flight into Anchorage last August was hit by lightning. It sounded
> like some dude out on the wing with a double-barreled shotgun who
> lit both tubes at once. No problem, just noise. That was STRANGE.
>
> -----
> = The wealth of reality, cannot be seen from your locality. =
> http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development
Norman D. Crow <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Do I detect a little *snobbishness* here? Keep having to remind people that
> I live in "New Yawk", but over 400 mi. from the "Rotten Apple"! There's a
> LOT more to NY than that collection of a**holes living in that sewer @ the
> mouth of the Hudson River.
Aw, Norm, don't sugar coat it, tell us how you really feel...
And isn't it ironic that the real Yankees are Red Sox fans?
Bob
On 26 Nov 2003, Bob N spake unto rec.woodworking:
> Norman D. Crow <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Do I detect a little *snobbishness* here? Keep having to remind
>> people that I live in "New Yawk", but over 400 mi. from the "Rotten
>> Apple"! There's a LOT more to NY than that collection of a**holes
>> living in that sewer @ the mouth of the Hudson River.
>
> Aw, Norm, don't sugar coat it, tell us how you really feel...
>
> And isn't it ironic that the real Yankees are Red Sox fans?
As if being a Red Sox fan wasn't punishment enough.
In article <sxzwb.297458$Fm2.316173@attbi_s04>,
[email protected] says...
> That's sure not enough to justify living there. Then again, there is no good
> reason to live there.
>
ah, but at O'Deen pointed out, you can get the same pluses in southern
AZ without the minuses of Cali-TaxUsTilWe'reBroke-fornia
> "Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
> >
> > While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> > fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> > portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> > woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
> >
> > Most specifically:
> >
> > http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
> >
> > O'Deen
>
>
>
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:59:09 -0800, "Charles A. Peavey"
<[email protected]> contended:
>I'm sorry but to all of those misguided people the only people who can be
>called Yankees are from Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut,
>Massachussetts, and Rhode Island, those "New yawkas" are just wannabes:-)
Sorry guys, but to 95% of the world's population, anyone living
anywhere between the 49th parallel or the Great Lakes and the Rio
Grande is a Yankee. Period. Full stop.
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" for real email address
"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
> Most specifically:
>
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
>
> O'Deen
Glad you're enjoying it. I have this week off and was looking forward to the
nite sessions here in good ole So. Cal. Those damn winds that kicked up the
other day did a number on me and now I'm too sick to get outside. I live
over by the San Bernandino Mnts. and all that crap from the fires kicked up
good. AAARRRRGGGG!! Well, have fun.
--
Paul
[email protected]
"You can make it foolproof, but you can't make it Damned foolproof."
Mark & Juanita wrote:
> In article <sxzwb.297458$Fm2.316173@attbi_s04>,
> [email protected] says...
>> That's sure not enough to justify living there. Then again, there is
>> no good reason to live there.
>>
>
> ah, but at O'Deen pointed out, you can get the same pluses in
> southern AZ without the minuses of Cali-TaxUsTilWe'reBroke-fornia
>
Give it time. AZ always follows CA's lead......
Wait until they start building sport stadiums down your way.
Gary (Phoenix)
B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote: while being cold
> I'll say the same to you that I say to cyclists from your area. Let's
> chat next August. <G>
>
> Barry
There's nothing better than taking an eastern rider out in 115 degree "dry"
heat. No shade, lots of sunshine.
The first climb kills them.
And there's nobody else on the trail either <(;-}
You can have your humidity. It's still easier to ride at 115 degrees and
25% humidity than trying to ride at 90/90....... my camelback doesn't carry
that much water!
Gary(gearing up for a turkey day ride where it's supposed to be ~75° F)
gloat gloat gloat gloat gloat gloat
"Charles A. Peavey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm sorry but to all of those misguided people the only people who can be
> called Yankees are from Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut,
> Massachussetts, and Rhode Island, those "New yawkas" are just wannabes:-)
Do I detect a little *snobbishness* here? Keep having to remind people that
I live in "New Yawk", but over 400 mi. from the "Rotten Apple"! There's a
LOT more to NY than that collection of a**holes living in that sewer @ the
mouth of the Hudson River.
Rant/off.
Nahmie
Larry Jaques wrote:
> [retiring to SMA]
>
> Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
> from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
> http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
I hadn't heard about that particular case, but it doesn't surprise
me. Luckily, it won't effect my plans. Despite isolated incidents like
that, the Mexican government has made it much easier for gabachos to buy
houses and such in recent years.
But, if you plan to go out and buy big plots of land, you'd better
make sure you've got reliable (multiple) surveys, have paid off the
appropriate officials, and get fences up immediately. Those folks have
been fighting over the rights to some of that land since the Spaniards
arrived, and squatting is a huge problem.
> Which SMdA? Near Mazatlan in Durango or north of Mexico
> City in Guanajuato?
As far as I'm concerned, there's only one SMA ... the one in
Guanajuato. Lovely colonial town in a high-desert plateau of about 6000
feet. It's a designated historical landmark, and new buildings have to
be approved under strict guidelines.
It's also a prime location in Mexico; almost at the geographical
center (the city of Guanajuato is supposedly the exact center), and
within a day's drive of beaches, mountains, etc., etc.
But don't tell anyone about it, OK? It's getting crowded enough as
it is. Damned Americans all over the place. :-)
> Years ago, Dad threatened to take us
> on vacation to Barra de Navidad but we never got there. In '82,
> Dad and I drove to Tijuana, hopped on a Mexicana plane and
> hopped on down to Puerto Vallarta. The rainforests there are
> unbelieveable: noisy with fauna and rich with flora. There was
> a restaurant a few miles south of there (with a most breathtaking
> view of a rocky river) who served the best food I think I've ever
> eaten. From there, we took the ferry to LaPaz where while snorkeling,
> the water which looked 2' deep was actually over 10' deep. This was
> 6 miles south of La Paz bay (where they dumped untreated sewage
> into the bay. The local water was all from huge desalination
> systems so it was safer than Tijuana.) We had a more eventful
> flight back to TJ from there. The pilot must have downed all the
> beer because he tilted first left, then right, then overshot the
> runway, landing on 1 wheel, then coming to a stop, I SWEAR, no
> more than 4' from the absolute end of the runway. When we turned
> to head in I could see the sandy edge under the wing. I never
> flew a Mexican airline again.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I've flown Mexicana and
Aeromexico probably a dozen times without a problem. In fact, one of
the scariest flights I've ever been on was on Aeromexico as we were
crossing the Gulf on the way to the Yucatan. We got into the middle of
a nasty electrical storm and to this day I'm not sure how we made it
through unscathed. When we finally touched down, most of the passengers
went up to shake the hand of our (Mexican) pilot and thank him for
getting us in safely.
Chuck Vance
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:50:43 -0600, Conan The Librarian <[email protected]>
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>> I hadn't heard about that particular case, but it doesn't surprise
>>me. Luckily, it won't effect my plans. Despite isolated incidents like
>>that, the Mexican government has made it much easier for gabachos to buy
>>houses and such in recent years.
>
> That's TODAY's Mexican government. What about next year's? And the
> different one a few years later? It's less stable than ours, y'know.
Actually, Mexico's government has been pretty stable (in an odd sort
of way). The Partido Revolucionario Institucional (Revolutionary
Institutional Party ... nice oxymoron, huh?) was in power for roughly 70
years. I think it was 1998 before even a governor was elected from the
opposition PAN party. And then of course, Fox was elected in 2000.
Was the government corrupt? Yep. Was the economy unstable? You
betcha. But the goverment was stable.
Now it seems no one is exactly sure what to expect. Ironically, now
that there is the semblance of a two-party system, things may actually
get less stable. Or there may be gridlock as PRI members at the local
level oppose Fox's government (this is already happening in some cases).
Anyhow, the point of my ramble is that I am not really afraid of the
Mexican government's intrusion into my affairs as a possible home-owner.
They have plenty of other things to worry about.
>> As far as I'm concerned, there's only one SMA ... the one in
>>Guanajuato. Lovely colonial town in a high-desert plateau of about 6000
>>feet. It's a designated historical landmark, and new buildings have to
>>be approved under strict guidelines.
>
>
> That's much safer than being anywhere near the locos in Mazatlan.
One of the things I like about SMA is that there is nothing to do
(relatively-speaking), so tourists who go there have to seek it out for
its own charm not because it's a place to go party and pick up chicks.
>> But don't tell anyone about it, OK? It's getting crowded enough as
>>it is. Damned Americans all over the place. :-)
>
> Up here in Southern Oregon it's the damned Californicators. They're
> everywhere! ;)
Heh. Reminds me of a tune by James McMurtry called "I'm Not From
Here". It has lines like:
I'm not from here
I just live here
Grew up somewhere far away
Come here thinking I'd never stay long
I'd be going back soon someday
Nobody's from here
Most of us just live here
Locals long since moved away
Sold the played-out farms for parking lots
Went off looking for a better way
I'm not from here
But people tell me
It's not like it used to be
They say I should have been here back about ten years
Before it got ruined by folks like me
Chuck Vance
Chuck Vance notes the lines:
>Nobody's from here
>Most of us just live here
>Locals long since moved away
>Sold the played-out farms for parking lots
>Went off looking for a better way
>
>I'm not from here
>But people tell me
>It's not like it used to be
>They say I should have been here back about ten years
>Before it got ruined by folks like me
Kind of reminds me of John D. McDonald's comments about the Florida gate:
everyone who gets there wants to shut the gate before any more like him come
down and mess things up even more.
Charlie Self
"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin
Silvan wrote:
> I've always said if I ever find the resources to make a trek to Mexico or
> elsewhere, I'll stay away from all the places I can already find on a map
> without much trouble, and see what the *real* country is like.
It's a shame how many folks go to a border-town and proclaim that
they don't like "Mexico". IMHO, border-towns show the *worst* elements
of life in Mexico, as all the hustlers and folks out to make a quick
buck congregate there.
Go to the interior of the country and you'll get a different picture.
> (As long as it's some place with a Burger King, so I don't starve to death.
> Therein lies the problem. At real Mexican restaurants, I eat a lot of
> plain tortillas and drink a lot of margaritas. That's about all the
> Mexican cuisine I have the stomach for.)
You say that like it's a bad thing. :-) Seriously, I don't know
about the Mexican restaurants where you live, but if they're anything
like we have here, they'd more correctly be called "Tex-Mex". Interior
cooking is a lot more varied and doesn't rely on excessive amounts of
chile powder, comino, etc. They always serve various hot sauces on the
side, but it's easy enough to get food that's mild if that's what you want.
As far as Burger Kings go ... well, I dunno about that chain, but
San Miguel has a Domino's pizza and a KFC. :-} In fact, when we were
there last month, I was realizing that it's getting harder and harder to
get "local" food. They cater so much to tourists/gringo retirees that
for every "authentic" restaurant there is a "tapas bar", a Chinese
place, an Italian restaurant or a "bistro" (translation: give the food
some European names and jack the price up 75%). Hell, there's even a
place that proudly advertises "Texas-style barbeque". :-|
The good thing is, if you speak the language, you can still find
good places to eat. You just have to explore a bit and get away from
the touristy areas. Working class neighborhoods are always a good bet.
ObWW: One of the nice things about SMA is that mesquite is the
predominant tree in that area. Unfortunately, they use it mostly for
cooking and heating, but I figure I could find a source for logs easily
enough. And I imagine I could get it dirt cheap.
Chuck Vance
Chuck Vance states:
>
> It's a shame how many folks go to a border-town and proclaim that
>they don't like "Mexico". IMHO, border-towns show the *worst* elements
>of life in Mexico, as all the hustlers and folks out to make a quick
>buck congregate there.
All I ever saw of Mexico was Tiajuana, and that was many years before anyone
even thought of cleaning it up...1959, early, while I was stationed at Camp
Pendleton for a few weeks. I've never been back. Never been tempted, really.
That was one totally unpleasant experience.
Given, it was a border town. But also given, there were, and are, ways of
controlling that kind of mess so it doesn't get as bad as it was then--someone
has to make the effort, though. I'm told it's better now, so I guess someone
finally got fed up with the corruption.
After a few hours there, you wondered where the real people lived.
Charlie Self
"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin
Charlie Self wrote:
> at Camp Pendleton for a few weeks. I've never been back. Never been
> tempted, really. That was one totally unpleasant experience.
Ah, Tijuana, the shit hole of the world. (A Mexican told me that, once.)
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:24:06 -0600, Conan The Librarian <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>juan fandango wrote:
>
>> Technically, gabachos are French.
I thought it was a Euro-veggie soup served cold.
> Actually, gabachos are either franceses or extranjeros.
http://www.googlism.com/who_is/g/gabacho/
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:01:48 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Most of it has onions in it though, hot or not. Everybody the world over
>has a love affair with those things for some reason. I just don't get it.
You are not the only one with the onion problem. I love them, but
can't stomach them! Buddy of mine is somewhat the same way, only he
gets sick as a dog! I think he is where they coined the phrase
"projectile vomiting" from!
OK, 2 opinions. Guess we got a quorum now.
TomL
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:09:21 GMT, "CW" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Been to Jersey once. Never again. Some time before that, I worked with a guy
>that was born and raised there. He described it as "the armpit of the US". I
>find no reason to say otherwise.
>
>
>
>"TomL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I only hate the soccer moms in their 25' SUV/LandBoats who drive the
>> kids to school with one hand on the cell phone and the other applying
>> their eye makeup. Other than that, I love NJ !!
>>
>> TomL
>>
>> >>
>> >>You live in Yankee Land. You hate everybody. Goes with the territory.
>> >
>> >WHOA! You just haven't been to the right parts of Yankee Land.
>> >
>> >I hate no one.
>> >
>> >Barry
>>
>
Conan The Librarian wrote:
> It's a shame how many folks go to a border-town and proclaim that
> they don't like "Mexico". IMHO, border-towns show the *worst* elements
> of life in Mexico, as all the hustlers and folks out to make a quick
> buck congregate there.
So I've heard. I figure the same would hold true to some extent somewhere
like Puerto Vallarta or Acapulco too.
> You say that like it's a bad thing. :-) Seriously, I don't know
> about the Mexican restaurants where you live, but if they're anything
> like we have here, they'd more correctly be called "Tex-Mex". Interior
No, the place I'm thinking of serves pretty genuine everyday Mexican food.
I just don't like much variety in my diet, let's put it that way.
One big reason why I've never been a world traveller. Even if I could come
up with the money, what would I do for food once I ran out of trail
mix? :)
> chile powder, comino, etc. They always serve various hot sauces on the
> side, but it's easy enough to get food that's mild if that's what you
> want.
Most of it has onions in it though, hot or not. Everybody the world over
has a love affair with those things for some reason. I just don't get it.
Can you imagine what it would be like to have to avoid onions? I'll bet
everyone else on the Wreck loves them. I'm a freak. I *must* be a freak,
because people from all sorts of culiary backgrounds use onions in
everything.
I can't eat much American food either.
> some European names and jack the price up 75%). Hell, there's even a
> place that proudly advertises "Texas-style barbeque". :-|
O_o
Anyway, it's all a moot point. We're not going anywhere like that for
another 10-20 years. We haven't even been to the *beach* (call it five
hours away) since before the kids started school.
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In article <UmHwb.300676$Tr4.956083@attbi_s03>,
Scott Post <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Patrick Olguin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>>
>>While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
>>fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
>>portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
>>woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
>Hey Paddy, I just bought 300 bf of ash @ $1.25/bf. What do you SoCal
>folks pay? :-)
$375 ?? that must be some piece of ash!
Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I hate you.
There's a lot to love about SoCal but it has plenty of short-comings.
Yeah, the weather's hard to beat but perpetually sunny days come at
the expense of hardwood forests, etc. I was just looking at the shop
photos on your website and if your shop has a clear view of that falls
in the photo then I hate you (figuratively speaking, of course).
btw: On the Gulph Mills page you have a local map. Are the places
listed on the map (e.g. wheelwright, blacksmith) being preserved as
historic sites? Pretty cool for you if that's the case.
Cheers,
Mike
Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> a job paying $300,000,000 a year.
>>
>> (Well, OK, maybe I'd live there for about two weeks. Just long enough to
>> earn enough to retire on and come home. :)
>
> You obviously haven't checked the cost of living in SoCal, especially the
> price of housing.
I could sleep in a tent for two weeks. I could probably stand to go that
long without eating too, if it meant I could retire at the end of it. I
still say I'd take that deal. Shave 40 years off my work expectancy. :)
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:31:12 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You obviously haven't checked the cost of living in SoCal, especially the
>price of housing.
Cheaper than SE England....
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:17:59 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In all seriousness, I've found people in the north in big cities are just
>mind bogglingly hateful toward each other all day long. It's real culture
>shock for a southern boy,
Damn right. Why be hateful to someone all day when you can just shoot
them in the morning and be done with it. 8-)
I wrote:
> > Please stay away.
> >
> > There are already to many of us here.
"Silvan" writes:
> Not a problem. You couldn't get me to live in California if you offered
me
> a job paying $300,000,000 a year.
>
> (Well, OK, maybe I'd live there for about two weeks. Just long enough to
> earn enough to retire on and come home. :)
You obviously haven't checked the cost of living in SoCal, especially the
price of housing.
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I take it then that you want San Francisco? You can keep it, it's worse
than LA. IIRC that area was the only area that voted to keep Davis.
Nuttier than fruitcakes, that bunch!
Glen
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think Northern Cal should become a separate state, since we share
> little with Lala land. AND please keep Michael Jackson down there.
>
> No way would I be working outside at night this week. Maybe a brisk
> walk with a jacket on, but no comfortable woodworking outside.
>
> dave
>
> Patrick Olguin wrote:
>
> > Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
> >
> > While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> > fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> > portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> > woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
> >
> > Most specifically:
> >
> > http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
> >
> > O'Deen
>
Glen responds:
>I take it then that you want San Francisco? You can keep it, it's worse
>than LA. IIRC that area was the only area that voted to keep Davis.
>Nuttier than fruitcakes, that bunch!
And the Terminator is a better choice? Those of us fortunate enough to be
outside CA wait with bated breath to see just what he's going to do...if
anything.
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
"David Hall" wrote in message
> "Swingman" wrote in message > > I am of the opinion that any reasonably
capable individual can do ANY job in
> > government, providing he/she is neither a lawyer, nor is inflicted with
an
> > MBA, both which seem to foster similar self delusion and grandeur.
>
> Then you must be of the opinion that "any reasonably capable
> individual can do ANY job", Period. Most government jobs are as
> difficult and complex as the equivalent non-government job. In my
> case, I believe that being the Business Manager of a $55 million
> school district is about the same in complexity and difficulty as
> being the CFO of most any $55 million services company. In some cases
> more so as most small services companies have basically one major
> market and service. In our case, in addition to providing educational
> services, we:
>
> - Run a transportation system that transports 6,000 children per day
> to 43 schools (34 of which are private or church related schools),
> operating 32 buses and 23 vans with a total of 62 employees. Oh and
> did I mention that we have a window of 2 hours from start to finish in
> the morning and afternoon - most vehicles making 3 runs in that
> timeframe.
>
> - Maintain and clean 9 schools, one administration building, one
> warehouse, in excess of 740,000 square feet of heavily utilized
> building space, not to mention 3 football fields, 4 soccer fields, 4
> baseball fields, 8 tennis courts, one swimming pool, one fieldhouse
> and 2 tracks. This with a staff of 41 custodians and 6 maintenence
> employees.
>
> - Serve in excess of 5,000 meals (mostly lunch, but a few hundred
> breakfasts). Total time for lunch is 1.5 hours at the big schools (3
> lunch periods) and 1 hour in the smaller (400 student) schools (2
> lunch periods). Oh and we do that for $1.50 per meal ( must admit that
> cost does not include any rent, but all other costs such as staffing,
> food, supplies, equipment, benefits, utilities, etc. must be covered).
>
> These along with purchasing, warehousing, tax collection, data
> processing (our network has over 2,500 computers on it doing
> everything from CAD to accounting to office productivity to calculus
> to Reader Rabbit to library services) are just some of the ancillary
> services that a small government operation like our small school
> district must perform. Very few corporate entities our size have these
> types of things to do outside of their main business. Just think how
> much more complex a real government like the State of CA must be.
>
> Dave Hall
As far as MANAGEMENT goes, you bet your sweet ass!
A common trait of yuppie elitists, which outwardly manifests itself in even
such tasks as their driving habits, is their ability to delude themselves
into believing they are among the exalted few capable of doing these jobs.
As you grow older you will learn that is NOT the case and that you,
personally, are expendable to the point that _most_ of those below you could
fill your shoes in a heartbeat.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, you are ONLY ever as good as those under you! Don't lose
sight of that and you will ultimately succeed. Lose sight of it and you will
fail as a human may well count your money in misery in old age.
Been there, done that ... learned it was just as true in the corporate
world, and government, as it was in combat.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I am of the opinion that any reasonably capable individual can do ANY job in
> government, providing he/she is neither a lawyer, nor is inflicted with an
> MBA, both which seem to foster similar self delusion and grandeur.
Then you must be of the opinion that "any reasonably capable
individual can do ANY job", Period. Most government jobs are as
difficult and complex as the equivalent non-government job. In my
case, I believe that being the Business Manager of a $55 million
school district is about the same in complexity and difficulty as
being the CFO of most any $55 million services company. In some cases
more so as most small services companies have basically one major
market and service. In our case, in addition to providing educational
services, we:
- Run a transportation system that transports 6,000 children per day
to 43 schools (34 of which are private or church related schools),
operating 32 buses and 23 vans with a total of 62 employees. Oh and
did I mention that we have a window of 2 hours from start to finish in
the morning and afternoon - most vehicles making 3 runs in that
timeframe.
- Maintain and clean 9 schools, one administration building, one
warehouse, in excess of 740,000 square feet of heavily utilized
building space, not to mention 3 football fields, 4 soccer fields, 4
baseball fields, 8 tennis courts, one swimming pool, one fieldhouse
and 2 tracks. This with a staff of 41 custodians and 6 maintenence
employees.
- Serve in excess of 5,000 meals (mostly lunch, but a few hundred
breakfasts). Total time for lunch is 1.5 hours at the big schools (3
lunch periods) and 1 hour in the smaller (400 student) schools (2
lunch periods). Oh and we do that for $1.50 per meal ( must admit that
cost does not include any rent, but all other costs such as staffing,
food, supplies, equipment, benefits, utilities, etc. must be covered).
These along with purchasing, warehousing, tax collection, data
processing (our network has over 2,500 computers on it doing
everything from CAD to accounting to office productivity to calculus
to Reader Rabbit to library services) are just some of the ancillary
services that a small government operation like our small school
district must perform. Very few corporate entities our size have these
types of things to do outside of their main business. Just think how
much more complex a real government like the State of CA must be.
Dave Hall
Stupid politicians.
I think they should keep the illegal immigrant driver
license law. Just use it as bait to arrest the illegals
as soon as they show up to take the test - then
deport them.
Art
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:mqLwb.54014>
> Here is an excerpt from the San Jose Mercury News:
>
> In a stunning turnaround, Senate Democrats on Monday joined
> Republicans to unanimously repeal the law letting illegal immigrants
> apply for driver's licenses, putting Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger one step
> away from delivering on a top campaign pledge.
>
Also, being VERY wealthy helps to reduce a politician's propensity to
cater to special interest groups.
dave
Swingman wrote:
> I am of the opinion that any reasonably capable individual can do ANY job in
> government, providing he/she is neither a lawyer, nor is inflicted with an
> MBA, both which seem to foster similar self delusion and grandeur.
>
It is not hard to be a better choice than Davis. The main thing needed is
someone (anyone) who will veto the BS hippie legislation that they pass in
Sacramento. Below BAD mentioned two good things that Arnold has already
done. That's a start. It will be an uphill battle for him (or anyone, for
that matter) to get spending under control here, but at least he recognizes
that spending is a problem. Davis never did.
Silvan (below) also has one of the most crucial points covered. Politicians
MUST learn in Calif that they can be fired. I believe that when some of
them saw the ire raised by the illegal alien bill and the proposed free
college tuition for illegals bill and they realized that we would be willing
to turn some of them out they did a 180 and acted to repeal the bad
legislation. Thus, it was a good thing.
Glen
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Glen responds:
>
> >I take it then that you want San Francisco? You can keep it, it's worse
> >than LA. IIRC that area was the only area that voted to keep Davis.
> >Nuttier than fruitcakes, that bunch!
>
> And the Terminator is a better choice? Those of us fortunate enough to be
> outside CA wait with bated breath to see just what he's going to do...if
> anything.
>
> Charlie Self
>
> "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
> promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
>
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"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Also, being VERY wealthy helps to reduce a politician's propensity to
> cater to special interest groups.
>
> dave
No it doesn't. This is a complete fallacy.
It just means he has more wealthy and influential "friends" that he can help
out.
-Jack
On 25 Nov 2003 13:23:39 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Glen responds:
>
>>I take it then that you want San Francisco? You can keep it, it's worse
>>than LA. IIRC that area was the only area that voted to keep Davis.
>>Nuttier than fruitcakes, that bunch!
>
>And the Terminator is a better choice? Those of us fortunate enough to be
>outside CA wait with bated breath to see just what he's going to do...if
>anything.
If I had been living there at the time, I'd have voted
for Mary Carey. Nice tatas. Probably as smart as any
politician but with far fewer things to hide. (Or places
to hide them.)
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"Silvan" wrote in message
> Charlie Self wrote:
>
> > And the Terminator is a better choice? Those of us fortunate enough to
be
> > outside CA wait with bated breath to see just what he's going to do...if
> > anything.
>
> Dat's de guv-uh-natuh now, Bub. :)
>
> Me too. I'm sort of glad to see that the recall went through. I like the
> idea of being able to say "OK asshole, you're fired" to a bad politician
> (wish we could fire them all), but I have real doubts about what Ahnuld
can
> do as gov'nor, and I don't think I'd have voted for him. I'm glad I don't
> live over there to have to find out first hand.
>
> I'm also waiting to see if that bit of "history" in Demolition Man comes
> true. All it takes is a nice constitutional ammendmant, and then we can
> have the Prez-un-natuh.
Charlie Self wrote:
> And the Terminator is a better choice? Those of us fortunate enough to be
> outside CA wait with bated breath to see just what he's going to do...if
> anything.
Dat's de guv-uh-natuh now, Bub. :)
Me too. I'm sort of glad to see that the recall went through. I like the
idea of being able to say "OK asshole, you're fired" to a bad politician
(wish we could fire them all), but I have real doubts about what Ahnuld can
do as gov'nor, and I don't think I'd have voted for him. I'm glad I don't
live over there to have to find out first hand.
I'm also waiting to see if that bit of "history" in Demolition Man comes
true. All it takes is a nice constitutional ammendmant, and then we can
have the Prez-un-natuh.
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YOU aren't paying attention if you have to ask what he's "GOING" to do.
He has already repealed the car licensing fee increase and the moronic
illegal alien driver's license law that Davis signed is just about
history. All in a week. And you ask what he's going to do?? Read or
watch the news, Charlie.
Here is an excerpt from the San Jose Mercury News:
In a stunning turnaround, Senate Democrats on Monday joined
Republicans to unanimously repeal the law letting illegal immigrants
apply for driver's licenses, putting Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger one step
away from delivering on a top campaign pledge.
pay attention, Charlie.
dave
Charlie Self wrote:
> Glen responds:
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>>I take it then that you want San Francisco? You can keep it, it's worse
>>than LA. IIRC that area was the only area that voted to keep Davis.
>>Nuttier than fruitcakes, that bunch!
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>
> And the Terminator is a better choice? Those of us fortunate enough to be
> outside CA wait with bated breath to see just what he's going to do...if
> anything.
>
> Charlie Self
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> "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
> promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:39:18 GMT, TomL <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I only hate the soccer moms in their 25' SUV/LandBoats who drive the
>kids to school with one hand on the cell phone and the other applying
>their eye makeup. Other than that, I love NJ !!
You'd like 'em even more from a bicycle. <G>
Barry
ouch, that hadda hurt...
TomL
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:33:10 GMT, "Bob N" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Norman D. Crow <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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>And isn't it ironic that the real Yankees are Red Sox fans?
>
>Bob
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On 24 Nov 2003 18:09:47 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
>While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
>fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
>portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
>woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
I did some of that this weekend despite the 30F temps.
http://diversify.com/pics/debridge2.jpg
>Most specifically:
>
>http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
Ah, I see that you used fine jummywood, too. I used poisoned
jummywood (in 2 flavors!) for the little bridge. Now to put
in the walkway...oh my aching back.
P.S: Your pushsticks appear quite lively. Are they fully thawed?
P.P.S: That's right. C-less actually did some woodworking this
past weekend.
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"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:50:43 -0600, Conan The Librarian <[email protected]>
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> >Larry Jaques wrote:
> >
> >
> >> [retiring to SMA]
> >>
> >> Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
> >> from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
> >> http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
> >
> > I hadn't heard about that particular case, but it doesn't surprise
> >me. Luckily, it won't effect my plans. Despite isolated incidents like
> >that, the Mexican government has made it much easier for gabachos to buy
> >houses and such in recent years.
>
> That's TODAY's Mexican government. What about next year's? And the
> different one a few years later? It's less stable than ours, y'know.
> (But the US is doing things to change that. We'll be as unstable as
> they are shortly, especially if the Shrub makes it back in.)
You need to check up on the news.
>
>
> > As far as I'm concerned, there's only one SMA ... the one in
> >Guanajuato. Lovely colonial town in a high-desert plateau of about 6000
> >feet. It's a designated historical landmark, and new buildings have to
> >be approved under strict guidelines.
>
> That's much safer than being anywhere near the locos in Mazatlan.
>
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> > It's also a prime location in Mexico; almost at the geographical
> >center (the city of Guanajuato is supposedly the exact center), and
> >within a day's drive of beaches, mountains, etc., etc.
> >
> > But don't tell anyone about it, OK? It's getting crowded enough as
> >it is. Damned Americans all over the place. :-)
>
> Up here in Southern Oregon it's the damned Californicators. They're
> everywhere! ;)
>
Hey Vato, I can help you sneak into Mexico for $1000. I can also introduce
you to a doctor in case you get sick. He can write you a prescription good
anywhere in the city if you know what is wrong with you. That's because he
would never figure it out. He also has a 1949 Chevy ambulance with tuck and
role interior. He financed it through Pedro's Medical College and Beauty
School.
>
> > I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I've flown Mexicana and
> >Aeromexico probably a dozen times without a problem. In fact, one of
> >the scariest flights I've ever been on was on Aeromexico as we were
> >crossing the Gulf on the way to the Yucatan. We got into the middle of
> >a nasty electrical storm and to this day I'm not sure how we made it
> >through unscathed. When we finally touched down, most of the passengers
> >went up to shake the hand of our (Mexican) pilot and thank him for
> >getting us in safely.
>
> Our flight into Anchorage last August was hit by lightning. It sounded
> like some dude out on the wing with a double-barreled shotgun who
> lit both tubes at once. No problem, just noise. That was STRANGE.
Maybe someone is trying to send you a message?
>
>
On 2 Dec 2003 06:14:52 -0800, [email protected] (Conan the Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
> Also, SWMBO and I were in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico for the
>holidays, and we are *seriously* considering retiring there. That
>place will put SoCal, Zona and Fla to shame for year-round
>woodworking. We had 5 days with zero clouds and temps that ranged
>from the upper 40's to upper 70's each day. During the hot season it
>runs about 55-85.
Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
Which SMdA? Near Mazatlan in Durango or north of Mexico
City in Guanajuato? Years ago, Dad threatened to take us
on vacation to Barra de Navidad but we never got there. In '82,
Dad and I drove to Tijuana, hopped on a Mexicana plane and
hopped on down to Puerto Vallarta. The rainforests there are
unbelieveable: noisy with fauna and rich with flora. There was
a restaurant a few miles south of there (with a most breathtaking
view of a rocky river) who served the best food I think I've ever
eaten. From there, we took the ferry to LaPaz where while snorkeling,
the water which looked 2' deep was actually over 10' deep. This was
6 miles south of La Paz bay (where they dumped untreated sewage
into the bay. The local water was all from huge desalination
systems so it was safer than Tijuana.) We had a more eventful
flight back to TJ from there. The pilot must have downed all the
beer because he tilted first left, then right, then overshot the
runway, landing on 1 wheel, then coming to a stop, I SWEAR, no
more than 4' from the absolute end of the runway. When we turned
to head in I could see the sandy edge under the wing. I never
flew a Mexican airline again.
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"Scott Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 03 Dec 2003, EL spake unto rec.woodworking:
>
> > It's a shame that the Government and courts in the US don't act in
> > accordance with "the law" and gather up ALL of the Mexicans and others
> > who are here illegally and deport them instantaneously. I'd vote for
> > the installation and use of gattling guns along the Rio Grande.
>
> I now understand why the Iraqis are just tickled pink with our
presence
> in their country.
It doesn't matter, they lost.
Larry Jaques writes:
>
>Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
>from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
>http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left, I
think.
Bunch of frigging thieves.
Charlie Self
"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Larry Jaques writes:
> >
> >Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
> >from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
> >http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
>
> I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left, I
> think.
>
> Bunch of frigging thieves.
>
Yep, can of gasoline and toss a cigarette over the shoulder as you're
leaving (and I don't smoke).
[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
>Larry Jaques writes:
>>
>>Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
>>from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
>>http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
>
>I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left, I
>think.
>
>Bunch of frigging thieves.
>
>Charlie Self
>
>"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
>believe it." George Carlin
>
Hey SoCal woodsmiths...
I'm looking for a decent used contractor's saw and I'm in the Riverside/San Bernardino
area...any suggestions on where to look for one?
Thanks!
JG
On 03 Dec 2003, EL spake unto rec.woodworking:
> It's a shame that the Government and courts in the US don't act in
> accordance with "the law" and gather up ALL of the Mexicans and others
> who are here illegally and deport them instantaneously. I'd vote for
> the installation and use of gattling guns along the Rio Grande.
I now understand why the Iraqis are just tickled pink with our presence
in their country.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
> >> I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left,
> >> I think.
>
> > Yep, can of gasoline and toss a cigarette over the shoulder as you're
> > leaving (and I don't smoke).
>
> I've tried several times to do the ol' cigarette into a puddle of gas thing,
> and it only works like that in the movies. I know what Smokey the Bear
> says, but it's actually quite difficult IME to start a fire with a
> cigarette, which is probably why we don't have a lot *more* forest fires
> than we do. If you want it to work reliably, Charlie has the right idea
> with his Molotov cocktail.
>
>
I'll make note of that. :-) Like I said, I don't smoke, so that's
one pyrotechnic experiment I haven't tried.
On 03 Dec 2003 06:55:00 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques writes:
>>
>>Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
>>from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
>>http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
>
>I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left, I
>think.
>
>Bunch of frigging thieves.
Imagine that you plunked down $90k, then spent another 4 years and
$150k on a house with all the amenities, gorgeous yard, pool, etc.
Now give it all back and walk away, empty handed, with a missing
retirement fund. Fun, huh? Some people would raid the local armory
and leave the land the way they found it.
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Larry Jaques writes:
>>Larry Jaques writes:
>>>
>>>Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
>>>from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
>>>http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
>>
>>I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left, I
>>think.
>>
>>Bunch of frigging thieves.
>
>Imagine that you plunked down $90k, then spent another 4 years and
>$150k on a house with all the amenities, gorgeous yard, pool, etc.
>Now give it all back and walk away, empty handed, with a missing
>retirement fund. Fun, huh? Some people would raid the local armory
>and leave the land the way they found it.
Or worse. But I wouldn't have to raid the local armory: I'd BE the lcoal armory
if I even suspected I was living in a place like that.
So I guess I wouldn't need the Molotov cocktail: thermite grenades are faster.
Charlie Self
"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry Jaques writes:
>
> >>Larry Jaques writes:
> >>>
> >>>Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
> >>>from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
> >>>http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
> >>
> >>I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left,
I
> >>think.
> >>
> >>Bunch of frigging thieves.
> >
> >Imagine that you plunked down $90k, then spent another 4 years and
> >$150k on a house with all the amenities, gorgeous yard, pool, etc.
> >Now give it all back and walk away, empty handed, with a missing
> >retirement fund. Fun, huh? Some people would raid the local armory
> >and leave the land the way they found it.
>
> Or worse. But I wouldn't have to raid the local armory: I'd BE the lcoal
armory
> if I even suspected I was living in a place like that.
not there with their laws. lots of US people get jailed for 10 years minimum
holding possession of ammo only. it happens a couple times/year around here,
where tourists get stopped at the border going in for a nice weekend
requires US diplomatic interventions (that rarely work) to get out.
> So I guess I wouldn't need the Molotov cocktail: thermite grenades are
faster.
>
> Charlie Self
>
> "I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people
who
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It's a shame that the Government and courts in the US don't act in
accordance with "the law" and gather up ALL of the Mexicans and others
who are here illegally and deport them instantaneously. I'd vote for
the installation and use of gattling guns along the Rio Grande.
B
Bob Schmall wrote:
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Larry Jaques writes:
>>
>>>Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
>>
>>>from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
>>
>>>http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
>>
>>I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left, I
>>think.
>>
>>Bunch of frigging thieves.
>>
>>Charlie Self
>>
>>"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people
>
> who
>
>>believe it." George Carlin
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> Re the sig: George, what do think think authority is?
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EL babbles:
>It's a shame that the Government and courts in the US don't act in
>accordance with "the law" and gather up ALL of the Mexicans and others
>who are here illegally and deport them instantaneously. I'd vote for
>the installation and use of gattling guns along the Rio Grande.
I don't know what a gattling gun is, but the rest of your post is on a par with
that particular goof-up.
Charlie Self
"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin
Mark & Juanita wrote:
>> I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left,
>> I think.
> Yep, can of gasoline and toss a cigarette over the shoulder as you're
> leaving (and I don't smoke).
I've tried several times to do the ol' cigarette into a puddle of gas thing,
and it only works like that in the movies. I know what Smokey the Bear
says, but it's actually quite difficult IME to start a fire with a
cigarette, which is probably why we don't have a lot *more* forest fires
than we do. If you want it to work reliably, Charlie has the right idea
with his Molotov cocktail.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 03 Dec 2003 06:55:00 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> >Larry Jaques writes:
> >>
> >>Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
> >>from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
> >>http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
> >
> >I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left,
I
> >think.
> >
> >Bunch of frigging thieves.
>
> Imagine that you plunked down $90k, then spent another 4 years and
> $150k on a house with all the amenities, gorgeous yard, pool, etc.
> Now give it all back and walk away, empty handed, with a missing
> retirement fund. Fun, huh? Some people would raid the local armory
> and leave the land the way they found it.
>
The Mexican government is not as easy a mark as the US government. You want
to live in Mexico, you pay. Ultimately, you pay.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry Jaques writes:
> >
> >Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
> >from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
> >http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
>
> I'll be dipped. I'd have popped the top on a Molotov cocktail as I left, I
> think.
>
> Bunch of frigging thieves.
>
> Charlie Self
>
> "I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people
who
> believe it." George Carlin
Re the sig: George, what do think think authority is?
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:08:02 -0700, "GeeDubb" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>And there's nobody else on the trail either <(;-}
I find the same conditions when it's 30F in December! <G>
Barry
Barry Burke responds:
>>And there's nobody else on the trail either <(;-}
>
>I find the same conditions when it's 30F in December! <G>
We muyst have been tougher. We'd get a lot of people out on the lake at Glens
Falls in February during the motorcycle ice races...usually anywhere from 5 to
15 below and windy.
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Barry Burke responds:
>
> >>And there's nobody else on the trail either <(;-}
> >
> >I find the same conditions when it's 30F in December! <G>
>
> We muyst have been tougher. We'd get a lot of people out on the lake at Glens
> Falls in February during the motorcycle ice races...usually anywhere from 5 to
> 15 below and windy.
>
> Charlie Self
>
Yeah, but Charlie, you're talking about *real* bikes, the kind with
motors, not those annoying two-wheeled things that slow traffic down to
a crawl on major thoroughfares. (May as well throw in some oxcarts to
go with them, except the oxcarts don't have those jaunty sissified
lycra-spandex riding atire)
[He says after having survived the screw-the-drivers de Tucson last
weekend -- had to drive 14 miles out of my way in order to get home.
BTW, I could live with that once a year (business for the local economy
and all), it's just the daily attitude that irritates me. One of the
nattily attired women riders was interviewed the day before the race,
making the comment, "It gets people used to us being on the roads, the
more bicycles the better in my opinion"]
/end rant --gosh, that felt good
> "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
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Mark & Juanita responds:
>> >I find the same conditions when it's 30F in December! <G>
>>
>> We muyst have been tougher. We'd get a lot of people out on the lake at
>Glens
>> Falls in February during the motorcycle ice races...usually anywhere from 5
>to
>> 15 below and windy.
>>
>> Charlie Self
>>
>
> Yeah, but Charlie, you're talking about *real* bikes, the kind with
>motors, not those annoying two-wheeled things that slow traffic down to
>a crawl on major thoroughfares.
Well, in a sense. These things were set up as half-milers, so you wouldn't
really want them on the street, and the studs were real fun if you fell in
front of the pack. The few times I did it, I was fortunate enough to be slow,
as well as clumsy, so my falls were at the back.
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
> We muyst have been tougher. We'd get a lot of people out on the lake at
Glens
> Falls in February during the motorcycle ice races...usually anywhere from
5 to
> 15 below and windy
That is sick sh&t. Did you use sheet metal screws for traction control? What
about a monkey hanging off the sidecar??
Rich
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Barry Burke responds:
>
> >>And there's nobody else on the trail either <(;-}
> >
> >I find the same conditions when it's 30F in December! <G>
>
> We muyst have been tougher. We'd get a lot of people out on the lake at
Glens
> Falls in February during the motorcycle ice races...usually anywhere from
5 to
> 15 below and windy.
>
> Charlie Self
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> "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
> promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
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RKON knowingly says:
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>That is sick sh&t. Did you use sheet metal screws for traction control? What
>about a monkey hanging off the sidecar?
Sick? Try it sometime. The only sick part is the bit with some of the Europeans
who used spikes long enough to fit on women's shoes. Of course they also had
guards...about an inch shorter than the spikes.
No one used sheetmetal screws. Tungsten steel studs had come into their own in
that area (northern NY State) some years before, were easier to install, lasted
longer and did less damage to tire and tube.
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RKON knowingly says:
>
> >
> >That is sick sh&t. Did you use sheet metal screws for traction control?
What
> >about a monkey hanging off the sidecar?
>
> Sick? Try it sometime. The only sick part is the bit with some of the
Europeans
> who used spikes long enough to fit on women's shoes. Of course they also
had
> guards...about an inch shorter than the spikes.
>
> No one used sheetmetal screws. Tungsten steel studs had come into their
own in
> that area (northern NY State) some years before, were easier to install,
lasted
> longer and did less damage to tire and tube.
>
> Charlie Self
We tried ice trials some years ago. Plowed out a course on a frozen
Wisconsin lake (we have 15,000) and went for fastest time. My wife waxed a
bit wroth one year when I took our 3-day old BMW out. The classes included
"engine over drive wheels" etc. and one for "specials". These guys didn't
run no sissy needles or studs--they hex-bolted their tires. Ya shoulda seen
the fountain of chopped ice that followed them around the track.
There were few incidents, although we lost a Lincoln one year. Seems the
laws of physics hadn't changed and all that road-hugging weight was a bit
much early in the season. They fished it out with a wrecker the next day.
Bob
On 25 Nov 2003 17:16:54 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>Barry Burke responds:
>
>>>And there's nobody else on the trail either <(;-}
>>
>>I find the same conditions when it's 30F in December! <G>
>
>We muyst have been tougher.
I don't kow if it's a tough thing, or the fact that I'm the only one I
know that dosen't ski.
Barry
Barry Burke notes:
>
>I don't kow if it's a tough thing, or the fact that I'm the only one I
>know that dosen't ski.
>
I never did, either. Man, you could fall and hurt yourself on those things!
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:43:54 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r .
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I don't kow if it's a tough thing, or the fact that I'm the only one I
>know that dosen't ski.
>
>Barry
Hey I'm a Sonny Bonofide non-skier myself.
Wonder if those soccermoms could do the cell phone and eye makeup
thing while on skis?
TomL
Mark & Juanita wrote:
> go with them, except the oxcarts don't have those jaunty sissified
> lycra-spandex riding atire)
OTOH, most serious cyclists can get away with spandex. They tend to have 3%
body fat or less, and muscles the size of grizzly bears.
> [He says after having survived the screw-the-drivers de Tucson last
> weekend -- had to drive 14 miles out of my way in order to get home.
I can do one better than that. Once upon a time I was going from somewhere
to somewhere. Probably in South Carolina. I was on a two-lane road, just
ambling along at some reasonable speed, when I ran into the tail end of the
worst traffic jam I had ever seen.
We were all *moving*, but moving incredibly *slowly*. Those are the worst,
because you can't just set the parking breaks and get out a book. You have
to clutch in, clutch out, clutch in, clutch out, if you're going slower
than the truck will idle in its lowest gear. I could see the traffic at
least five miles ahead of me, and there was a pair of cops cars two abreast
at the head of it all, running all on-coming traffic off the road. I
figured maybe we were in some kind of funeral procession for some really
important local official or something. I kept waiting to get to the
funeral home.
Finally, after every bit of 10 long miles at 2 mph, it finally broke loose.
It was a damn *marathon*. In the middle of some major US highway, in the
middle of the day.
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Please stay away.
>
> There are already to many of us here.
Not a problem. You couldn't get me to live in California if you offered me
a job paying $300,000,000 a year.
(Well, OK, maybe I'd live there for about two weeks. Just long enough to
earn enough to retire on and come home. :)
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:50:43 -0600, Conan The Librarian <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>
>> [retiring to SMA]
>>
>> Seriously reconsider. Didn't you just see all the Baja folks ousted
>> from their 100-year leased properties a few years ago? Ay carumba!
>> http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv014.htm
>
> I hadn't heard about that particular case, but it doesn't surprise
>me. Luckily, it won't effect my plans. Despite isolated incidents like
>that, the Mexican government has made it much easier for gabachos to buy
>houses and such in recent years.
That's TODAY's Mexican government. What about next year's? And the
different one a few years later? It's less stable than ours, y'know.
(But the US is doing things to change that. We'll be as unstable as
they are shortly, especially if the Shrub makes it back in.)
> As far as I'm concerned, there's only one SMA ... the one in
>Guanajuato. Lovely colonial town in a high-desert plateau of about 6000
>feet. It's a designated historical landmark, and new buildings have to
>be approved under strict guidelines.
That's much safer than being anywhere near the locos in Mazatlan.
> It's also a prime location in Mexico; almost at the geographical
>center (the city of Guanajuato is supposedly the exact center), and
>within a day's drive of beaches, mountains, etc., etc.
>
> But don't tell anyone about it, OK? It's getting crowded enough as
>it is. Damned Americans all over the place. :-)
Up here in Southern Oregon it's the damned Californicators. They're
everywhere! ;)
> I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I've flown Mexicana and
>Aeromexico probably a dozen times without a problem. In fact, one of
>the scariest flights I've ever been on was on Aeromexico as we were
>crossing the Gulf on the way to the Yucatan. We got into the middle of
>a nasty electrical storm and to this day I'm not sure how we made it
>through unscathed. When we finally touched down, most of the passengers
>went up to shake the hand of our (Mexican) pilot and thank him for
>getting us in safely.
Our flight into Anchorage last August was hit by lightning. It sounded
like some dude out on the wing with a double-barreled shotgun who
lit both tubes at once. No problem, just noise. That was STRANGE.
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Conan The Librarian wrote:
> One of the things I like about SMA is that there is nothing to do
> (relatively-speaking), so tourists who go there have to seek it out for
> its own charm not because it's a place to go party and pick up chicks.
I've always said if I ever find the resources to make a trek to Mexico or
elsewhere, I'll stay away from all the places I can already find on a map
without much trouble, and see what the *real* country is like.
(As long as it's some place with a Burger King, so I don't starve to death.
Therein lies the problem. At real Mexican restaurants, I eat a lot of
plain tortillas and drink a lot of margaritas. That's about all the
Mexican cuisine I have the stomach for.)
(That was funny... I went in one time, speaking nearly perfect Spanish, and
the guy seemed to think I was a native speaker until I ordered my plain
cheeseburger, solamente con pan, carne y queso. I saw the gringo bells
going off. :)
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That's sure not enough to justify living there. Then again, there is no good
reason to live there.
"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
> Most specifically:
>
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
>
> O'Deen
I only hate the soccer moms in their 25' SUV/LandBoats who drive the
kids to school with one hand on the cell phone and the other applying
their eye makeup. Other than that, I love NJ !!
TomL
>>
>>You live in Yankee Land. You hate everybody. Goes with the territory.
>
>WHOA! You just haven't been to the right parts of Yankee Land.
>
>I hate no one.
>
>Barry
Except possibly some of us who live at 6700 feet above San Bernardino.
As of this writing, it is 38 degF here. Bwaha... my ass.
mahalo,
frosty
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
> Most specifically:
>
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
>
> O'Deen
I'm sorry but to all of those misguided people the only people who can be
called Yankees are from Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut,
Massachussetts, and Rhode Island, those "New yawkas" are just wannabes:-)
Regards,
Charles
A true Yankee who actually lives in the coast redwood forests of California!
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
>
> >>> I hate you.
> >>
> >>You live in Yankee Land. You hate everybody. Goes with the territory.
> >
> > WHOA! You just haven't been to the right parts of Yankee Land.
> >
> > I hate no one.
>
> You must be one of those Yankee redneck types then. :)
>
> In all seriousness, I've found people in the north in big cities are just
> mind bogglingly hateful toward each other all day long. It's real culture
> shock for a southern boy, even though nobody I know in the real south
would
> even consider a Virginian a southern boy.
>
> (We're sort of stuck in the middle. Hillbillies to you Yankees, Yankees
to
> the people from North Carolina southward. We can't win.)
>
> I've met a few nice people in the more remote parts of Pennsylvania, and
> even one really good guy in Quakertown, so no, I don't really think you're
> all like that. A lot of you are though. Just a culture thing. I think
> the rudeness is a function of population density over time. I think the
> South hasn't been urbanized long enough for our city people to get that
> nasty, but they're working on it.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>
Hey I had to turn the heater on in my shop (garage) tonight. I think it was
about 60 out! But that Orange county for you
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"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings Late-Fall WoodDorking Mavens,
>
> While the majority of you collectively freezeyourassesff, me and my
> fellow SoCal (and significant portions of southern Arizona and
> portions of Florida, I suppose), wooddorkers are able to enjoy OUTDOOR
> woodworking... at night! Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
> Most specifically:
>
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse
>
> O'Deen