My King KC-10SC 1HP Direct drive saw died... i was waiting for this
day... now time to replace...
Oninions on:
http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
vs
http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=101&ID=644
(if i get this one, i'm getting hte 52" rails on it)
i want this style saw not the true cabinet, because i already have a
stand to fit, and they seem a bit lighter...
On Jun 28, 4:22=A0pm, Picasso <[email protected]> wrote:
> My King KC-10SC 1HP Direct drive saw died... i was waiting for this
> day... now time to replace...
>
> Oninions on:
>
> http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> vs
>
> http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=3D101&ID=3D644
> (if i get this one, i'm getting hte 52" rails on it)
>
> i want this style saw not the true cabinet, because i already have a
> stand to fit, and they seem a bit lighter...
Odds are the similarities are far greater than the differences. The
General can be had (AFAIK) with their T-square, for just a wee bit
more. Many pro shops around me use General with nothing but positive
feedback. My CNC is a General, the service impeccable.
The King? I had a King bandsaw, 14" which served me very well, and way
beyond expectations considering how cheap it was. Some of their
powertools are not great, so I have heard.... the usual, bushings
where there should be bearings etc... Their plunge router was a piece
of crap.
I'd be all over the General, because I like those guys there....good
enough reason?
On Jun 29, 2:00=A0am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Picasso" wrote:
> > Oninions on:
>
> >http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> > vs
>
> >http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=3D101&ID=3D644
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Some observations.
> ------------------------------
> The General is supplied with steel extensions.
> The King is supplied with cast iron extensions.
> I like cast iron extensions.
> --------------------------------------
> The General weighs about 212 lbs.
> The King weighs about 270 lbs.
> I like 270 lbs.
>
> (Remember that old limrick about "The mass of the ass"?) More is
> better IMHO.
> -----------------------------------
> The General has a 23" deep table.
> The King has a 27" deep table.
> I like 27" deep tables on my table saw.
>
> YMMV
> --------------------------------
> Can't comment on which is the better contractor's saw; however, based
> on the specs you provide, King would be my choice.
> ----------------------------------------
> Consultation fee is a couple of cases of Molson<G>
>
> Lew
I'd rather have flat steel wings than warped cast iron. But if both
are flat, I'll take the mass of the cast. Webbed cast can be good too.
On Jun 29, 5:11=A0pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> On Jun 29, 2:00 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Picasso" wrote:
> > > Oninions on:
>
> > >http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> > > vs
>
> > >http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=3D101&ID=3D644
>
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Some observations.
> > ------------------------------
> > The General is supplied with steel extensions.
> > The King is supplied with cast iron extensions.
> > I like cast iron extensions.
> > --------------------------------------
> > The General weighs about 212 lbs.
> > The King weighs about 270 lbs.
> > I like 270 lbs.
>
> > (Remember that old limrick about "The mass of the ass"?) More is
> > better IMHO.
> > -----------------------------------
> > The General has a 23" deep table.
> > The King has a 27" deep table.
> > I like 27" deep tables on my table saw.
>
> > YMMV
> > --------------------------------
> > Can't comment on which is the better contractor's saw; however, based
> > on the specs you provide, King would be my choice.
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Consultation fee is a couple of cases of Molson<G>
>
> > Lew
>
> Molson???? I prefer Bud over any Molson and that is saying something.
> Erdinger, Grolsch, Sleemans in that order. If I can't have any of
> those, Bud it is. Then again, there are dozens of different smaller
> brands, micros etc that I really like too. Not included are the total
> fringe crazies like Maple Bacon Poontang Dark.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-- -
> Poontang?!
A juice made from the rare Poonberry tree.
"Picasso" wrote:
> Oninions on:
>
> http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> vs
>
> http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=101&ID=644
----------------------------------------
Some observations.
------------------------------
The General is supplied with steel extensions.
The King is supplied with cast iron extensions.
I like cast iron extensions.
--------------------------------------
The General weighs about 212 lbs.
The King weighs about 270 lbs.
I like 270 lbs.
(Remember that old limrick about "The mass of the ass"?) More is
better IMHO.
-----------------------------------
The General has a 23" deep table.
The King has a 27" deep table.
I like 27" deep tables on my table saw.
YMMV
--------------------------------
Can't comment on which is the better contractor's saw; however, based
on the specs you provide, King would be my choice.
----------------------------------------
Consultation fee is a couple of cases of Molson<G>
Lew
Robatoy wrote:
> On Jun 28, 4:22 pm, Picasso <[email protected]> wrote:
>> My King KC-10SC 1HP Direct drive saw died... i was waiting for this
>> day... now time to replace...
>>
>> Oninions on:
>>
>> http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>>
>> vs
>>
>> http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=101&ID=644
>> (if i get this one, i'm getting hte 52" rails on it)
>>
>> i want this style saw not the true cabinet, because i already have a
>> stand to fit, and they seem a bit lighter...
>
> The Ridgid in this price range down there?
The ridgid is a bit cheaper actually... but doesn't have the same size
table, and is more potable than what i'm looking for.
i'm looking for a saw to setup in the shop on a cart,
>
> Oninions on:
>
Are Oninnions like Opinions but they make you cry when you cut them?
Not familiar with either saw. Generally (pun) happy with fit and
finish of General equip. Haven't touched King. Looking at specs and
pics, I like the General for the knee activated off switch and they do
mention some special attention given to arbor for no run-out.
However, the King has an 18 amp motor and the General only a 15 amp.
I want the general with the King Motor.
On Jun 29, 9:33=A0pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:2c987a28-d041-4b74-a678-24cad1b46df1@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 29, 5:11 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected]...
> > On Jun 29, 2:00 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "Picasso" wrote:
> > > > Oninions on:
>
> > > >http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> > > > vs
>
> > > >http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=3D101&ID=3D644
>
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > Some observations.
> > > ------------------------------
> > > The General is supplied with steel extensions.
> > > The King is supplied with cast iron extensions.
> > > I like cast iron extensions.
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > The General weighs about 212 lbs.
> > > The King weighs about 270 lbs.
> > > I like 270 lbs.
>
> > > (Remember that old limrick about "The mass of the ass"?) More is
> > > better IMHO.
> > > -----------------------------------
> > > The General has a 23" deep table.
> > > The King has a 27" deep table.
> > > I like 27" deep tables on my table saw.
>
> > > YMMV
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Can't comment on which is the better contractor's saw; however, based
> > > on the specs you provide, King would be my choice.
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > Consultation fee is a couple of cases of Molson<G>
>
> > > Lew
>
> > Molson???? I prefer Bud over any Molson and that is saying something.
> > Erdinger, Grolsch, Sleemans in that order. If I can't have any of
> > those, Bud it is. Then again, there are dozens of different smaller
> > brands, micros etc that I really like too. Not included are the total
> > fringe crazies like Maple Bacon Poontang Dark.
>
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
> > =A0-
> > Poontang?!
>
> A juice made from the rare Poonberry tree.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-- ---
> Be like naming your wine Swartzenwalder Putz.
Munchener Hoffbrau Plotz?
On 6/28/2010 4:17 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> I'd be all over the General, because I like those guys there....good
> enough reason?
+1 on the Canadian made General.
Had the opportunity to use one a few years back and, hands down, I would
purchase the Canadian General over a Unisaw, which I own; and a
PowerMatic, which I've also used.
All good saws, but the General would be my number one choice.
I've not used the SawStop, but fondled one and was impressed. Were I
shopping for a commercial shop with employees, the SawStop would be a no
brainer due to liability issues in a complex world run totally by lawyers.
Short that, it's a General for sure ...
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robatoy" wrote:
>
>> Molson???? I prefer Bud over any Molson and that is saying something.
> ---------------------------------
> Bud, the byproduct of a disgruntled goat.
>
> Lew
>
>
I thought it was Clydesdales.
"Picasso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ef601b08-a4e8-4e49-b4bd-fb7a7982eda3@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> My King KC-10SC 1HP Direct drive saw died... i was waiting for this
> day... now time to replace...
>
> Oninions on:
>
> http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> vs
>
> http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=101&ID=644
> (if i get this one, i'm getting hte 52" rails on it)
>
> i want this style saw not the true cabinet, because i already have a
> stand to fit, and they seem a bit lighter...
You really should consider this saw also if you can get your hands on one.
http://sawstop.com/contractor/contractor_home.php
"Picasso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ef601b08-a4e8-4e49-b4bd-fb7a7982eda3@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> My King KC-10SC 1HP Direct drive saw died... i was waiting for this
> day... now time to replace...
>
> Oninions on:
>
> http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> vs
>
> http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=101&ID=644
> (if i get this one, i'm getting hte 52" rails on it)
>
> i want this style saw not the true cabinet, because i already have a
> stand to fit, and they seem a bit lighter...
I've not seen either in person. General does have a good reputation for the
Canada built tools, and I think it holds well for the import like this one.
The King has a 27" table versus the 23" for the General. I'd give a lot of
consideration to that, especially with a wide cross cut. The King has open
extensions and while I'm not crazy about them, the steel on the General are
not as solid.
On Jun 28, 4:22=A0pm, Picasso <[email protected]> wrote:
> My King KC-10SC 1HP Direct drive saw died... i was waiting for this
> day... now time to replace...
>
> Oninions on:
>
> http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> vs
>
> http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=3D101&ID=3D644
> (if i get this one, i'm getting hte 52" rails on it)
>
> i want this style saw not the true cabinet, because i already have a
> stand to fit, and they seem a bit lighter...
The Ridgid in this price range down there?
On Jun 29, 2:00=A0am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Picasso" wrote:
> > Oninions on:
>
> >http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> > vs
>
> >http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=3D101&ID=3D644
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Some observations.
> ------------------------------
> The General is supplied with steel extensions.
> The King is supplied with cast iron extensions.
> I like cast iron extensions.
> --------------------------------------
> The General weighs about 212 lbs.
> The King weighs about 270 lbs.
> I like 270 lbs.
>
> (Remember that old limrick about "The mass of the ass"?) More is
> better IMHO.
> -----------------------------------
> The General has a 23" deep table.
> The King has a 27" deep table.
> I like 27" deep tables on my table saw.
>
> YMMV
> --------------------------------
> Can't comment on which is the better contractor's saw; however, based
> on the specs you provide, King would be my choice.
> ----------------------------------------
> Consultation fee is a couple of cases of Molson<G>
>
> Lew
Molson???? I prefer Bud over any Molson and that is saying something.
Erdinger, Grolsch, Sleemans in that order. If I can't have any of
those, Bud it is. Then again, there are dozens of different smaller
brands, micros etc that I really like too. Not included are the total
fringe crazies like Maple Bacon Poontang Dark.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Jun 29, 2:00 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Picasso" wrote:
> > Oninions on:
>
> >http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> > vs
>
> >http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=101&ID=644
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Some observations.
> ------------------------------
> The General is supplied with steel extensions.
> The King is supplied with cast iron extensions.
> I like cast iron extensions.
> --------------------------------------
> The General weighs about 212 lbs.
> The King weighs about 270 lbs.
> I like 270 lbs.
>
> (Remember that old limrick about "The mass of the ass"?) More is
> better IMHO.
> -----------------------------------
> The General has a 23" deep table.
> The King has a 27" deep table.
> I like 27" deep tables on my table saw.
>
> YMMV
> --------------------------------
> Can't comment on which is the better contractor's saw; however, based
> on the specs you provide, King would be my choice.
> ----------------------------------------
> Consultation fee is a couple of cases of Molson<G>
>
> Lew
Molson???? I prefer Bud over any Molson and that is saying something.
Erdinger, Grolsch, Sleemans in that order. If I can't have any of
those, Bud it is. Then again, there are dozens of different smaller
brands, micros etc that I really like too. Not included are the total
fringe crazies like Maple Bacon Poontang Dark.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Poontang?!
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2c987a28-d041-4b74-a678-24cad1b46df1@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 29, 5:11 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> On Jun 29, 2:00 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Picasso" wrote:
> > > Oninions on:
>
> > >http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> > > vs
>
> > >http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=101&ID=644
>
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Some observations.
> > ------------------------------
> > The General is supplied with steel extensions.
> > The King is supplied with cast iron extensions.
> > I like cast iron extensions.
> > --------------------------------------
> > The General weighs about 212 lbs.
> > The King weighs about 270 lbs.
> > I like 270 lbs.
>
> > (Remember that old limrick about "The mass of the ass"?) More is
> > better IMHO.
> > -----------------------------------
> > The General has a 23" deep table.
> > The King has a 27" deep table.
> > I like 27" deep tables on my table saw.
>
> > YMMV
> > --------------------------------
> > Can't comment on which is the better contractor's saw; however, based
> > on the specs you provide, King would be my choice.
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Consultation fee is a couple of cases of Molson<G>
>
> > Lew
>
> Molson???? I prefer Bud over any Molson and that is saying something.
> Erdinger, Grolsch, Sleemans in that order. If I can't have any of
> those, Bud it is. Then again, there are dozens of different smaller
> brands, micros etc that I really like too. Not included are the total
> fringe crazies like Maple Bacon Poontang Dark.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> Poontang?!
A juice made from the rare Poonberry tree.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Be like naming your wine Swartzenwalder Putz.
In article <[email protected]>, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Robatoy" wrote:
>
>> Molson???? I prefer Bud over any Molson and that is saying
>> something.
>---------------------------------
>Bud, the byproduct of a disgruntled goat.
It's still better than at least two beers I've had: Strohs, and -- what has to
be the worst beer of all time -- Rhinelander.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jun 29, 9:33 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:2c987a28-d041-4b74-a678-24cad1b46df1@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 29, 5:11 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected]...
> > On Jun 29, 2:00 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "Picasso" wrote:
> > > > Oninions on:
>
> > > >http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>
> > > > vs
>
> > > >http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=101&ID=644
>
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > Some observations.
> > > ------------------------------
> > > The General is supplied with steel extensions.
> > > The King is supplied with cast iron extensions.
> > > I like cast iron extensions.
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > The General weighs about 212 lbs.
> > > The King weighs about 270 lbs.
> > > I like 270 lbs.
>
> > > (Remember that old limrick about "The mass of the ass"?) More is
> > > better IMHO.
> > > -----------------------------------
> > > The General has a 23" deep table.
> > > The King has a 27" deep table.
> > > I like 27" deep tables on my table saw.
>
> > > YMMV
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Can't comment on which is the better contractor's saw; however, based
> > > on the specs you provide, King would be my choice.
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > Consultation fee is a couple of cases of Molson<G>
>
> > > Lew
>
> > Molson???? I prefer Bud over any Molson and that is saying something.
> > Erdinger, Grolsch, Sleemans in that order. If I can't have any of
> > those, Bud it is. Then again, there are dozens of different smaller
> > brands, micros etc that I really like too. Not included are the total
> > fringe crazies like Maple Bacon Poontang Dark.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -
> > Poontang?!
>
> A juice made from the rare Poonberry tree.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> Be like naming your wine Swartzenwalder Putz.
Munchener Hoffbrau Plotz?
--------------------------------------------------------
One suspects it would not travel well.
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:05:30 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Jun 28, 4:22 pm, Picasso <[email protected]> wrote:
>> My King KC-10SC 1HP Direct drive saw died... i was waiting for this
>> day... now time to replace...
>>
>> Oninions on:
>>
>> http://www.general.ca/site_starshop/s_produits/50-070e.html
>>
>> vs
>>
>> http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=101&ID=644
>> (if i get this one, i'm getting hte 52" rails on it)
>>
>> i want this style saw not the true cabinet, because i already have a
>> stand to fit, and they seem a bit lighter...
>
>The Ridgid in this price range down there?
...I have the Ridgid and like it alot for on-site work. Shop is
another deal...prolly not.
cg