Has anyone ever tried to spray urethane out of a gun rather than brush
it on? If so, what type of spray gun will do the trick. Im working on
some raised panel doors and would rather spray this stuff on than brush
it. Im looking for an ultra smooth finish. I was told that if you put
the urethane on an old coffee pot warmer plate and let it get hot that
it would thin out for spraying. Just wondering if anyone ever tried it
or some suggestions.
thanks,
Al
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On Feb 12, 8:11 pm, BIG AL 2 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Has anyone ever tried to spray urethane out of a gun rather than brush
> it on? If so, what type of spray gun will do the trick.
SNIP
Al - no need to heat you product, and it might make a mess if you
did. I am assuming that you want to reduce the viscosity, but you
will screw the pooch if you warm it up and it is a lot colder or
hotter than the surface you are spraying.
Besides, even with Minwax you shouldn't have any problems spraying
from about 60 degrees to 95. And with proper mixing of thinners, you
can easily spray beyond those numbers. No kiddin'.
I always spray with the urethanes thinned about 10% or so, unless it
is closer to the 95 degree mark, then it is less. If it is closer to
the 60 degree mark, I might thin it a little more. Minwax is an easy
to spray product, and very forgiving.
You don't need a special gun, or even an expensive one. Just get one
that seals positively (so when you pull the trigger it shoots, and
when you let off it quits), has a smooth trigger and is easy to
clean. Remember to pick a gun your compressor can push, and that has
a spray tip somewhere around 1.5mm (give or take a couple) for general
finish spraying.
Practice your gun setup (spray pattern, pressure settings and material
viscosity) and thinning protocols on a piece of scrap or cardboard
before you start on your doors.
Robert
On Feb 13, 1:33 pm, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> How'd you say all that in so few words???? It takes me paragraphs to get
> through that.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
Well, I had to LMAO at that one. I think it helps to use more
technical terminology that pertains to the subject like "screw th
pooch". Hah!
Mike, I think you and me both post the longest replies here on
subjects of finishing, and maybe on the group. I can be brief, but I
have a tendency to read the group late at night when I am winding
down, and once I get to whacking away on the keyboard a lot comes out.
Finishing is and continues to be a black art of sorts for anyone I
know. It is easy to get going and in great conditions put down a
great finish. But where the rubber meets the road is dealing with the
variables. To me, when I am in science mode, that makes it
interesting. When I am finishing a project for a client, the
variables step up the challenge so I feel like I need to know
everything I can.
I enjoy it here when we get a good thread going on finishing and we
can compare materials, applications and results. There has been a lot
of really good information passed around about finishing, here. I
think it is always the best to learn from someone that has already
resolved a problem you are experiencing, or the reverse side, being
able to help someone with their problems.
Robert
Mike Marlow wrote:
> No kidding - me too. I'll find myself trying to be brief, only to later
> find myself adding explanation to explanation, to clarification, to examples
> and metaphores. Pretty soon I've got a freakin novel going.
>
This is Usenet. If it's possible to misunderstand a posting, it will be
misunderstood ... and vigorously objected to.
I hope I quoted enough for you to understand which posting I am
responding to.
Bill
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Well, I had to LMAO at that one. I think it helps to use more
> technical terminology that pertains to the subject like "screw th
> pooch". Hah!
>
> Mike, I think you and me both post the longest replies here on
> subjects of finishing, and maybe on the group. I can be brief, but I
> have a tendency to read the group late at night when I am winding
> down, and once I get to whacking away on the keyboard a lot comes out.
No kidding - me too. I'll find myself trying to be brief, only to later
find myself adding explanation to explanation, to clarification, to examples
and metaphores. Pretty soon I've got a freakin novel going.
>
> Finishing is and continues to be a black art of sorts for anyone I
> know. It is easy to get going and in great conditions put down a
> great finish. But where the rubber meets the road is dealing with the
> variables. To me, when I am in science mode, that makes it
> interesting. When I am finishing a project for a client, the
> variables step up the challenge so I feel like I need to know
> everything I can.
That's the truth about any sort of finishing. The basic techniques can be
mastered rather quickly with a little guidance. The chemical mixtures can
be mastered by simply following instructions on can labels. After that, all
of the adjustments for temperature, humidity, retarders that aren't really
the right ones for the conditions, and all of the variables that go into
getting a nice finish that does not require a ton of hand work after the
spray, is a black art indeed. I've often thought that if anyone watched me
spray they would have more questions about why I did things that were not
really as I had advised in some post here, and all I'd be able to say would
be... well, because.
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-Mike-
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>,
BIG AL 2 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Has anyone ever tried to spray urethane out of a gun rather than brush
> it on? If so, what type of spray gun will do the trick. Im working on
> some raised panel doors and would rather spray this stuff on than brush
> it. Im looking for an ultra smooth finish. I was told that if you put
> the urethane on an old coffee pot warmer plate and let it get hot that
> it would thin out for spraying. Just wondering if anyone ever tried it
> or some suggestions.
>
> thanks,
> Al
I have sprayed Minwax poly with my HVLP (Accuspray) with good results.
I used a .043 needle setup with no thinning, but it was in warm weather.
Much luck--cd
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Feb 12, 8:11 pm, BIG AL 2 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Has anyone ever tried to spray urethane out of a gun rather than brush
> > it on? If so, what type of spray gun will do the trick.
>
> SNIP
>
> Al - no need to heat you product, and it might make a mess if you
> did. I am assuming that you want to reduce the viscosity, but you
> will screw the pooch if you warm it up and it is a lot colder or
> hotter than the surface you are spraying.
> Besides, even with Minwax you shouldn't have any problems spraying
> from about 60 degrees to 95. And with proper mixing of thinners, you
> can easily spray beyond those numbers. No kiddin'.
>
> I always spray with the urethanes thinned about 10% or so, unless it
> is closer to the 95 degree mark, then it is less. If it is closer to
> the 60 degree mark, I might thin it a little more. Minwax is an easy
> to spray product, and very forgiving.
>
> You don't need a special gun, or even an expensive one. Just get one
> that seals positively (so when you pull the trigger it shoots, and
> when you let off it quits), has a smooth trigger and is easy to
> clean. Remember to pick a gun your compressor can push, and that has
> a spray tip somewhere around 1.5mm (give or take a couple) for general
> finish spraying.
>
> Practice your gun setup (spray pattern, pressure settings and material
> viscosity) and thinning protocols on a piece of scrap or cardboard
> before you start on your doors.
>
How'd you say all that in so few words???? It takes me paragraphs to get
through that.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
BIG AL 2 wrote:
> Has anyone ever tried to spray urethane out of a gun rather than brush
> it on?
Yes.
> If so, what type of spray gun will do the trick.
Just about any of them.
> Just wondering if anyone ever tried it
> or some suggestions.
Thin the product to the proper thickness for spraying, and practice on
scrap. Note how thin products sprayed from an aerosol can are. You're
going to shoot for a viscosity somewhere between the aerosol and the
store bought "brushing" can.
Be aware that varnish dries SLOW and stays tacky for a while, so you
will still get surface defects from dust.
Personally, I'd rather spray lacquer, with proper safety precautions, or
wipe the thinned varnish on.
In article <[email protected]>, BIG AL 2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Has anyone ever tried to spray urethane out of a gun rather than brush
>it on? If so, what type of spray gun will do the trick. Im working on
>some raised panel doors and would rather spray this stuff on than brush
>it. Im looking for an ultra smooth finish.
Spraying requires the right equipment and technique. Without
those, it's not at all easy. With both, it's pretty simple,
but then you probably wouldn't be asking the question ;-)
You might want to try a good quality foam brush. I like
the Wooster foam brushes they sell at Lowes. Quick, cheap,
easy, and pretty much idiot-proof. I think you'll likely
get the finish you want (no brush marks) with very little
hassle.
Just don't shake the can or apply the poly in a manner
that's going to create a lot of bubbles. Apply thin, even
coats, sanding lightly between each one, yadda, yadda...
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