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[email protected] (Patrick Olguin)

15/10/2004 9:32 AM

On Green Woodworking

A hypothetical for your ponderment.

A wooddorker finds a bit of spare space in his yard^H^H^H^H shop, and
decides to quickly erect a stout bench from the materials at hand.
Let's say the wooddorker finds some somewhat straight, and somewhat
cheap dimensional lumber at the local BORG and sets out to build a
functional bench from green douglas fir (not really a fir, but this is
common usage and I don't really have time discuss vagaries of the
various conifers for sale locally, though they are an extremely
interesting species), complete with carefully cut/milled/trimmed
square dog holes for a beefy iron bench dog.

And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.

*sigh*

DAMHIKT.

Humbly submitted,

Single-Stop O'Deen


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"Bob Schmall"

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

16/10/2004 1:55 AM


"patrick conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 15 Oct 2004 09:32:48 -0700, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
> wrote:
>
>>
>>And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
>>shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.
>>
>
> What if you accelerated the dogs themselves to near the speed of
> light. Don't they fit then? I guess they get heavy, but...

Trouble is, they'll only shrink in the direction of motion, so they'll get
shorter but not slimmer. Kinda like old age.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

15/10/2004 4:40 PM


"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Snip


>
> And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
> shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.
>
> *sigh*


I think the holes are going to get bigger, not shrink unless you add water
regularly. ;~) You gotta think shrink the other way.

mn

"mark"

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

16/10/2004 3:51 AM


> Trouble is, they'll only shrink in the direction of motion, so they'll get
> shorter but not slimmer. Kinda like old age.

Hmmm...I haven't noticed that problem. But I have kinda gone from boxwood
to white pine.

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

16/10/2004 3:53 AM

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

<snip>
> complete with carefully cut/milled/trimmed
> square dog holes for a beefy iron bench dog.
>
> And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
> shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&
pid=00938262000&subcat=Hammers

or, more befitting your status as Galoot Emeritus Maximus,

http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=104544&itemType=PROD
UCT&iMainCat=10000&iSubCat=10053&iProductID=104544

As my father taught me, "If it don't fit...."

Patriarch

hM

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

15/10/2004 5:14 PM

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> A hypothetical for your ponderment.
>
> A wooddorker finds a bit of spare space in his yard^H^H^H^H shop, and
> decides to quickly erect a stout bench from the materials at hand.
> Let's say the wooddorker finds some somewhat straight, and somewhat
> cheap dimensional lumber at the local BORG and sets out to build a
> functional bench from green douglas fir (not really a fir, but this is
> common usage and I don't really have time discuss vagaries of the
> various conifers for sale locally, though they are an extremely
> interesting species), complete with carefully cut/milled/trimmed
> square dog holes for a beefy iron bench dog.
>
> And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
> shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.

See what you get for working so fast? I built a similar
Bench-by-Borg(tm) and, since the lumber sat in my gar^h^hshop for
several months and through at least one episode of SantaAna weather
phenomena, they were essentially kiln-dried by glue-up time. And
SWMBO thought I was just being lazy.

> *sigh*

Just make yer dogs outta similar Borg lumber so when they're dry
they'll fit right smartly.

Cheers,
Mike

>
> DAMHIKT.
>
> Humbly submitted,
>
> Single-Stop O'Deen

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

15/10/2004 12:41 PM

On 15 Oct 2004 09:32:48 -0700, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
calmly ranted:

>A hypothetical for your ponderment.
>
>A wooddorker finds a bit of spare space in his yard^H^H^H^H shop, and
>decides to quickly erect a stout bench from the materials at hand.

I know a few people who have screwed themselves that way, too.
DAMHIKT. <squeak>


>Let's say the wooddorker finds some somewhat straight, and somewhat
>cheap dimensional lumber at the local BORG and sets out to build a
>functional bench from green douglas fir (not really a fir, but this is
>common usage and I don't really have time discuss vagaries of the
>various conifers for sale locally, though they are an extremely
>interesting species), complete with carefully cut/milled/trimmed
>square dog holes for a beefy iron bench dog.

Birdseye SPF? Wunnerful!


>And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
>shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.

How many times did we tell yo^H^Hcertain people that 1) ROUND DOGS
RULE! and 2) PINEYWOOD SUCKS!, hmmmmm?


>*sigh*

Condolences to the sorry suckah suffering from that tale.


>DAMHIKT.

Maybe you could mount it in your two-piece WorkMutt and...

LJ, who just finished making two replacement spacer bars for his
carving bench.(A coupla kerf-widths between tenons makes quite a
difference after all when the stiffener is in the middle of a 39"
tall leg.)

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patrick conroy

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

15/10/2004 6:05 PM

On 15 Oct 2004 09:32:48 -0700, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:

>
>And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
>shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.
>

What if you accelerated the dogs themselves to near the speed of
light. Don't they fit then? I guess they get heavy, but...

Ww

WoodMangler

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

15/10/2004 12:38 PM

Patrick Olguin did say:

> complete with carefully cut/milled/trimmed
> square dog holes for a beefy iron bench dog.
>
> And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
> shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.

Better race right out to http://www.lie-nielsen.com and get those $275
rosewood handled chisels to widen the dog holes a skosh...

--
New project = new tool. Hard and fast rule.

b

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

15/10/2004 1:49 PM

On 15 Oct 2004 09:32:48 -0700, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:

>A hypothetical for your ponderment.
>
>A wooddorker finds a bit of spare space in his yard^H^H^H^H shop, and
>decides to quickly erect a stout bench from the materials at hand.
>Let's say the wooddorker finds some somewhat straight, and somewhat
>cheap dimensional lumber at the local BORG and sets out to build a
>functional bench from green douglas fir (not really a fir, but this is
>common usage and I don't really have time discuss vagaries of the
>various conifers for sale locally, though they are an extremely
>interesting species), complete with carefully cut/milled/trimmed
>square dog holes for a beefy iron bench dog.
>
>And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
>shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.
>
>*sigh*
>
>DAMHIKT.
>
>Humbly submitted,
>
>Single-Stop O'Deen


chisel. open 'em up a bit.

JH

Juergen Hannappel

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 15/10/2004 9:32 AM

15/10/2004 7:47 PM

"Leon" <[email protected]> writes:

> "Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> Snip
>
>
>>
>> And let's further say that as the wood seasons, the bench dog holes
>> shrink, making it impossible to use the beefy bench in the bench.
>>
>> *sigh*
>
>
> I think the holes are going to get bigger, not shrink unless you add water
> regularly. ;~) You gotta think shrink the other way.

No. The piece of wood that keeps the hole sides apart shrinks, hence
by this shrincage you hose the whole hole.

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