I was recently tearing some old pine lumber off a very old shack on our
property, just working and thinking how primitive and rough those guys
had it. They didn't really have access to the building information we
have now days. Probably just threw these old shacks together any way
they could. Probably did't even have a square. Hell, Didn't know what
square was. It's a miricle these old houses didn't fall down in a year
or so. Rough sawn pine on the outside from an old circle mill, never
any type of treatment or preservative.
Well, when I started pulling that old siding off, much of which is
still plenty solid, I noticed that the top plate was a solid 4x4 or 4x5
and all the studs are mortised into it. When I get to the corner, the
corner is mortised into the top plate and pegged. The peg is still
holding. Come to think of it, this was my great granddads old house.
About 125 yrs. old. It just fell down about 5 years ago.
I didn't think those guys knew much about building. Shoot, I wish they
could come back and teach me some stuff!!
with new respect,
jack
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<jake@di\/ersify.com> says...
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:31:08 -0500 (CDT), [email protected] (Jack
> Gray) pixelated:
>
... snip
>
> Look for a "timber framing" class in your area if, and only if,
> you have the body which can handle tossing 8"x12"x30' beams
> around with one hand. ;) Ah, to be young again...
>
> P.S: Thanks for not mentioning broken Searz products (as I first
> thought the thread might do.)
>
ah, that would be like shooting fish in a barrel Larry. After all is
there any other kind of that product other than dead or disabled?
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I dunno - I agree. I have an old, dying Craftsman 1/4" Router circa 1963 -
all aluminum housing, etc that is still going strong. As an aside, the
instruction manual diagrams the PROPER way to rout is *against* the rotation
of the bit, IE climb cutting - your router would move from right to left
along the outside edge of the board. Did it that way for years with no
problem.
Also have a Craftsman 10" Contractor saw circa 1957 that is still *dying* -
loves the WWII blade too.
Also have a plate joiner - relatively new that has been dying for about 4
years.
I have also had my share of crap. It's sort of like Harbor Freight - you
have to look at each thing individually -some is a good buy, some is
garbage.
I get a little irritated with the constant use of "Crapsman" or "M$" but
then, at my age, I get a little irritated about a lot of things.
Vic Baron
"Traves W. Coppock" <newsgroups-AT-farmvalleywoodworks-DOT-com> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 04:18:20 GMT, Mark & Juanita
> <[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>
> > ah, that would be like shooting fish in a barrel Larry. After all is
> >there any other kind of that product other than dead or disabled?
>
>
>
>
>
> not all craftsman tools are dead or disabled,,,some are dying. . .*G*
>
>
> it just seems that all of mine are dying REALLY slowly, and show no
> signs of the "last gasp for air"
>
> Traves, Who is pleasantly waiting the flames. . .hehe
>
> *G*
>As an aside, the
>instruction manual diagrams the PROPER way to rout is *against* the rotation
>of the bit, IE climb cutting - your router would move from right to left
>along the outside edge of the board. Did it that way for year
I believe you have it backwards.
Climb cutting is cutting with the direction of rotation, so that the cutting
action tends to pull the cutter along. As in a radial arm saw. It can give
you a better finish, but it is more dangerous. Most routing is done with
normal (non-climb) cutting.
John Martin
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 04:18:20 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
> ah, that would be like shooting fish in a barrel Larry. After all is
>there any other kind of that product other than dead or disabled?
not all craftsman tools are dead or disabled,,,some are dying. . .*G*
it just seems that all of mine are dying REALLY slowly, and show no
signs of the "last gasp for air"
Traves, Who is pleasantly waiting the flames. . .hehe
*G*
Traves W. Coppock <newsgroups-AT-farmvalleywoodworks-DOT-com> wrote:
>>I dunno - I agree.
>
> *gasp*
> you mean im NOT all alone?
> i am NOT the only one who owns and actually likes a Craftsman tool or
> machine?
>
> *G*
Nup.
> "Hello, I'm Traves and i own Craftsman tools. . ."
Hello, I'm Silvan, and I own Craftsman tools...
Mixed bag. I love a couple of them, live with a couple of them, and I
absolutely detest my router. The only good thing about that router is...
um... The only good thing about that router is the feeling of satisfaction
I will get when I toss it into a concrete wall with my trebuchet some day.
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:27:47 GMT, "Vic Baron" <[email protected]>
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>I dunno - I agree.
*gasp*
you mean im NOT all alone?
i am NOT the only one who owns and actually likes a Craftsman tool or
machine?
*G*
Traves
"Hello, I'm Traves and i own Craftsman tools. . ."
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 04:18:20 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:31:08 -0500 (CDT), [email protected] (Jack
Gray) pixelated:
>I was recently tearing some old pine lumber off a very old shack on our
>property, just working and thinking how primitive and rough those guys
>had it. They didn't really have access to the building information we
>have now days. Probably just threw these old shacks together any way
>they could. Probably did't even have a square. Hell, Didn't know what
>square was. It's a miricle these old houses didn't fall down in a year
>or so. Rough sawn pine on the outside from an old circle mill, never
>any type of treatment or preservative.
All made from good heart wood from eons old trees.
>Well, when I started pulling that old siding off, much of which is
>still plenty solid, I noticed that the top plate was a solid 4x4 or 4x5
>and all the studs are mortised into it. When I get to the corner, the
>corner is mortised into the top plate and pegged. The peg is still
>holding. Come to think of it, this was my great granddads old house.
>About 125 yrs. old. It just fell down about 5 years ago.
Yeah, they took their time, did it once, and did it right.
>I didn't think those guys knew much about building. Shoot, I wish they
>could come back and teach me some stuff!!
Look for a "timber framing" class in your area if, and only if,
you have the body which can handle tossing 8"x12"x30' beams
around with one hand. ;) Ah, to be young again...
P.S: Thanks for not mentioning broken Searz products (as I first
thought the thread might do.)
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