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"Norm Dresner"

12/02/2009 4:29 PM

Tagua Nuts

Their meat is a beautiful substitute for ivory, but it's incredibly hard and
I suspect that metalworking techniques are more appropriate than woodworking
ones. Does anyone have any links to web sites that discuss techniques for
working them or know of any books that discuss them?
TIA
Norm


This topic has 14 replies

md

mac davis

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

13/02/2009 8:36 AM

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:11:50 -0700, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I've cut them on the band saw and turned them on the lathe with no
>> problem..
>>
>> My problem with them is that you need a HUGE one to do much with because
>> by nature they're discolored through about 1/2 the nut and they usually
>> have a brown line running through them, where the net folds, or whatever..
>>
>> About the only thing I've done with them that I liked was knobs for turned
>> boxes..
>>
>
> Are there any dangers of them having voids or other flaws that would cause
>them to fail catastrophically while turning?

I guess you'd have to define "catastrophically"... lol
I have stuff drop off or self destruct fairly often but usually they just fall
on the lathe bed or floor...

I guess you could be at a bad angle and catch a void..
My experience with them is that by the time you trim it down to "turnable
material" it has too little mass to do any damage..

Hopefully, the ones that my wife bought were smaller and inferior to others
available, but it wasn't a good experience..


mac

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Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

12/02/2009 9:04 PM


"walnutlvr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At least there is someone here with a sense of humor when it comes to some
> of the posts
>
>
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> Will someone please cut through the tension and post the comical
> response to all these great leads-ins like...
>
> Nuts... their meat is beautiful.
> incredibly hard
> websites that discuss techniques for working on them
> I've cut them on a bandsaw
> you need a HUGE one
> they're discolored
> etc.


I'd love to, but I'm busy wiping coffee off my monitor (again).


md

mac davis

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

13/02/2009 8:39 AM

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:55:28 -0500, phorbin <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>
>
>> Are there any dangers of them having voids or other flaws that would cause
>> them to fail catastrophically while turning?
>
>http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32719&cat=1,250,43217

Good pictures...

Sort of shows how you have to take slices from between the skin and the center,
as the center is unusable, at least for anything that I do..

Dick Sing used them in a few of his pen books, but usually for small trim or
bands..


mac

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ML

Maxwell Lol

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

13/02/2009 10:13 AM

"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> writes:

> Will someone please cut through the tension and post the comical
> response to all these great leads-ins like...

No, I'm a frayed knot.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

12/02/2009 10:43 AM

Will someone please cut through the tension and post the comical
response to all these great leads-ins like...

Nuts... their meat is beautiful.
incredibly hard
websites that discuss techniques for working on them
I've cut them on a bandsaw
you need a HUGE one
they're discolored
etc.

On Feb 12, 8:29=A0am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Their meat is a beautiful substitute for ivory, but it's incredibly hard =
and
> I suspect that metalworking techniques are more appropriate than woodwork=
ing
> ones. =A0Does anyone have any links to web sites that discuss techniques =
for
> working them or know of any books that discuss them?
> =A0 =A0 TIA
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Norm

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

12/02/2009 8:11 PM

mac davis wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:29:13 GMT, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Their meat is a beautiful substitute for ivory, but it's incredibly hard
>>and I suspect that metalworking techniques are more appropriate than
>>woodworking
>>ones. Does anyone have any links to web sites that discuss techniques for
>>working them or know of any books that discuss them?
>> TIA
>> Norm
> I've cut them on the band saw and turned them on the lathe with no
> problem..
>
> My problem with them is that you need a HUGE one to do much with because
> by nature they're discolored through about 1/2 the nut and they usually
> have a brown line running through them, where the net folds, or whatever..
>
> About the only thing I've done with them that I liked was knobs for turned
> boxes..
>

Are there any dangers of them having voids or other flaws that would cause
them to fail catastrophically while turning?



--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

pp

phorbin

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

12/02/2009 10:55 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...


> Are there any dangers of them having voids or other flaws that would cause
> them to fail catastrophically while turning?

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32719&cat=1,250,43217

Aa

Aardvark

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

13/02/2009 3:49 PM

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:43:53 -0800, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

> Will someone please cut through the tension and post the comical
> response to all these great leads-ins like...
>
> Nuts... their meat is beautiful.

..as the actress said to the bishop.

> incredibly hard

..as the actress said to the bishop.

> websites that discuss techniques for working on them I've cut them on a
> bandsaw

..as the actress said to the bishop.

> you need a HUGE one

..as the actress said to the bishop.

> they're discolored

Now that you get the idea, fill in the blanks for yourself :-)

> etc.
>
> On Feb 12, 8:29 am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Their meat is a beautiful substitute for ivory, but it's incredibly
>> hard and I suspect that metalworking techniques are more appropriate
>> than woodworking ones.  Does anyone have any links to web sites that
>> discuss techniques for working them or know of any books that discuss
>> them?
>>     TIA
>>         Norm


HTH.


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"walnutlvr" <[email protected]>

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

12/02/2009 7:05 PM

At least there is someone here with a sense of humor when it comes to some
of the posts


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Will someone please cut through the tension and post the comical
response to all these great leads-ins like...

Nuts... their meat is beautiful.
incredibly hard
websites that discuss techniques for working on them
I've cut them on a bandsaw
you need a HUGE one
they're discolored
etc.

On Feb 12, 8:29 am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Their meat is a beautiful substitute for ivory, but it's incredibly hard
> and
> I suspect that metalworking techniques are more appropriate than
> woodworking
> ones. Does anyone have any links to web sites that discuss techniques for
> working them or know of any books that discuss them?
> TIA
> Norm

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

12/02/2009 11:47 AM

Come on, you must have just made up that user name to respond to this
post... Walnut lover!

On Feb 12, 11:05=A0am, "walnutlvr" <[email protected]> wrote:
> At least there is someone here with a sense of humor when it comes to som=
e
> of the posts
>
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> Will someone please cut through the tension and post the comical
> response to all these great leads-ins like...
>
> Nuts... their meat is beautiful.
> incredibly hard
> websites that discuss techniques for working on them
> I've cut them on a bandsaw
> you need a HUGE one
> they're discolored
> etc.
>
> On Feb 12, 8:29 am, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Their meat is a beautiful substitute for ivory, but it's incredibly har=
d
> > and
> > I suspect that metalworking techniques are more appropriate than
> > woodworking
> > ones. Does anyone have any links to web sites that discuss techniques f=
or
> > working them or know of any books that discuss them?
> > TIA
> > Norm- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

14/02/2009 7:57 PM

mac davis wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:11:50 -0700, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>> I've cut them on the band saw and turned them on the lathe with no
>>> problem..
>>>
>>> My problem with them is that you need a HUGE one to do much with because
>>> by nature they're discolored through about 1/2 the nut and they usually
>>> have a brown line running through them, where the net folds, or
>>> whatever..
>>>
>>> About the only thing I've done with them that I liked was knobs for
>>> turned boxes..
>>>
>>
>> Are there any dangers of them having voids or other flaws that would
>> cause
>>them to fail catastrophically while turning?
>
> I guess you'd have to define "catastrophically"... lol
> I have stuff drop off or self destruct fairly often but usually they just
> fall
> on the lathe bed or floor...
>
> I guess you could be at a bad angle and catch a void..
> My experience with them is that by the time you trim it down to "turnable
> material" it has too little mass to do any damage..
>
> Hopefully, the ones that my wife bought were smaller and inferior to
> others available, but it wasn't a good experience..
>
>

Thanks (and to the other answers to my query as well. My definition was
along the lines of having the nut fly apart with parts having sufficient
velocity to do damage. Sounds like failure occurs, but not such that it is
dangerous if one is appropriately attired.


--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

md

mac davis

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

12/02/2009 10:10 AM

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:29:13 GMT, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Their meat is a beautiful substitute for ivory, but it's incredibly hard and
>I suspect that metalworking techniques are more appropriate than woodworking
>ones. Does anyone have any links to web sites that discuss techniques for
>working them or know of any books that discuss them?
> TIA
> Norm
I've cut them on the band saw and turned them on the lathe with no problem..

My problem with them is that you need a HUGE one to do much with because by
nature they're discolored through about 1/2 the nut and they usually have a
brown line running through them, where the net folds, or whatever..

About the only thing I've done with them that I liked was knobs for turned
boxes..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Ll

"LD"

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

13/02/2009 3:50 AM

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> mac davis wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:29:13 GMT, "Norm Dresner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Their meat is a beautiful substitute for ivory, but it's incredibly hard
>>>and I suspect that metalworking techniques are more appropriate than
>>>woodworking
>>>ones. Does anyone have any links to web sites that discuss techniques
>>>for
>>>working them or know of any books that discuss them?
>>> TIA
>>> Norm
>> I've cut them on the band saw and turned them on the lathe with no
>> problem..
>>
>> My problem with them is that you need a HUGE one to do much with because
>> by nature they're discolored through about 1/2 the nut and they usually
>> have a brown line running through them, where the net folds, or
>> whatever..
>>
>> About the only thing I've done with them that I liked was knobs for
>> turned
>> boxes..
>>
>
> Are there any dangers of them having voids or other flaws that would
> cause
> them to fail catastrophically while turning?

I've seen them with voids and had failures. But wouldn't call the failures
catastrophic. Catastrophic is the nine inch bowl failing and taking a piece
of your scalp. Tagua nuts are just too small, IF you are wearing a face
shield.

md

mac davis

in reply to "Norm Dresner" on 12/02/2009 4:29 PM

15/02/2009 5:31 PM

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:57:52 -0700, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:


> Thanks (and to the other answers to my query as well. My definition was
>along the lines of having the nut fly apart with parts having sufficient
>velocity to do damage. Sounds like failure occurs, but not such that it is
>dangerous if one is appropriately attired.

Sort of like a pen blank splitting and possibly coming off the brass tube..
It might be turning at a very high RPM but has almost no mass..


mac

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