Every year in our cities and towns, thousands of trees and the lumber
they contain are thrown away in landfills, buried on construction
sites, ground up for mulch, or cut for firewood.
At the same time, we pay dearly at lumber yards and home centers for
many of the hardwoods and softwoods we continue to burn, bury, grind,
and throw away.
My book, Harvesting Urban Timber - A Complete Guide, encourages
woodworkers to make better use of urban timber by saving the best logs
for lumber. The book is full of photographs and expert reviewed,
computer-generated illustrations to help make clear the more
complicated aspects of urban logging and milling.
http://www.harvestingurbantimber.com/book.html
You may also want to check out the gallery of furniture made from
reclaimed timber including a couple by a guy named Norm. If you've
made a piece from reclaimed lumber, let us know and we'll add it.
http://www.harvestingurbantimber.com/gallery.html
Thank you.
On 21 Jul 2004 11:56:47 -0700, [email protected]
(Sam Sherrill) calmly ranted:
>Every year in our cities and towns, thousands of trees and the lumber
>they contain are thrown away in landfills, buried on construction
>sites, ground up for mulch, or cut for firewood.
>
>At the same time, we pay dearly at lumber yards and home centers for
>many of the hardwoods and softwoods we continue to burn, bury, grind,
>and throw away.
>
>My book, Harvesting Urban Timber - A Complete Guide, encourages
>woodworkers to make better use of urban timber by saving the best logs
>for lumber. The book is full of photographs and expert reviewed,
>computer-generated illustrations to help make clear the more
>complicated aspects of urban logging and milling.
>
>http://www.harvestingurbantimber.com/book.html
Sam, goodonya for the book. But why not put some more detail on
Amazon, on your website, etc. so people can see WTF is -in- the
book? Scan some pages (index, TOC, sample chapter pages) and let
Amazon show them for you. Put them on your site so we'll be at
least (OK, more) tempted to look. A single screen half full of
ad copy doesn't constitute a book description.
So what's in it? Is it only for city critters, or only for those
with their own mills? Curious minds want to know!
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 05:31:29 GMT, "David"
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>In Washington, there is a website called www.2good2toss.com that allows
>people to post surplus materials that they need to get rid of. Some of it is
>free, some of it is nearly free, but there is a lumber section.
Seeing that site both thrills and scares me. I see the recycling
which thrills, but I see the Wa. State Dept. of Ecology, which
somewhat scares me. (That may be because I'm currently reading
Larry Niven's "Fallen Angels" and one main premise of the book is
that the Ice Age they live in was caused by environmentalists.
Electricity for heat is scarce, wood fires have been outlawed, so
everyone is slowly freezing.) Hey, it could happen. ;)
>I would love to see more usage of sites like to share excess materials with
>the community rather than letting it rot on finished job sites.
Absolutely! I'm a happy Reduce/Recycle/Reuser myself.
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On 21 Jul 2004 11:56:47 -0700, Sam Sherrill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My book, Harvesting Urban Timber - A Complete Guide, encourages
Do we know you, or are you just exploiting this discussion group as a
free advertizing resource?
Except, of course, that domestic hardwoods are not dwindling, they're just
not being harvested.
Can get some nice exotics in towns on occasion, but the cost of harvest is
going to be high because of licensing and insurance.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Sam Sherrill" wrote in message
>
> > Thank you.
>
> ... and thank you for the information on a subject that needs to be
brought
> to the attention of woodworkers as resources dwindle.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 7/10/04
>
>
Sam, It is a shameless plug. However, I just purchased you book. Living in
SoCal, I have tried to recycle some trees from my yard with varying results.
A block away from my home a 100+ California (Coast Live) Oak was felled, cut
and stacked for firewood. I don't know how much of it would have been
available for lumber but having just buying 100 BF of quartersawn, it made
me ill.
I look forward to getting a signed copy!
Dave
"Sam Sherrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Every year in our cities and towns, thousands of trees and the lumber
> they contain are thrown away in landfills, buried on construction
> sites, ground up for mulch, or cut for firewood.
>
> At the same time, we pay dearly at lumber yards and home centers for
> many of the hardwoods and softwoods we continue to burn, bury, grind,
> and throw away.
>
> My book, Harvesting Urban Timber - A Complete Guide, encourages
> woodworkers to make better use of urban timber by saving the best logs
> for lumber. The book is full of photographs and expert reviewed,
> computer-generated illustrations to help make clear the more
> complicated aspects of urban logging and milling.
>
> http://www.harvestingurbantimber.com/book.html
>
> You may also want to check out the gallery of furniture made from
> reclaimed timber including a couple by a guy named Norm. If you've
> made a piece from reclaimed lumber, let us know and we'll add it.
>
> http://www.harvestingurbantimber.com/gallery.html
>
> Thank you.
> You may also want to check out the gallery of furniture made from
> reclaimed timber including a couple by a guy named Norm. If you've
> made a piece from reclaimed lumber, let us know and we'll add it.
>
> http://www.harvestingurbantimber.com/gallery.html
>
> Thank you.
This is not a negative comment so take no offense. I think its funny to have
a gallery of items from "reclaimed" wood since it doesn't take any more
skill than "non-reclaimed" wood. Except if you dry it yourself and it gets
all warped. heheh.
Most of the wood I actually "buy" is from a sawyer who gets his logs from
homeowners/ landowners in the local area. Except he has no deals on
anything. Wood is not cheap, sigh. Most of my wood is "dumpster" maple.
It would be a great survey to find out where most woodworkers get their fix,
err, I mean wood.
Rich
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 21 Jul 2004 11:56:47 -0700, Sam Sherrill
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > My book, Harvesting Urban Timber - A Complete Guide, encourages
>
> Do we know you, or are you just exploiting this discussion group as a
> free advertizing resource?
Yeah--I mean, it's not like you make planes or something.
Bob
In Washington, there is a website called www.2good2toss.com that allows
people to post surplus materials that they need to get rid of. Some of it is
free, some of it is nearly free, but there is a lumber section.
I would love to see more usage of sites like to share excess materials with
the community rather than letting it rot on finished job sites.
--
Thanks,
David W. Lovell
( Intrepid )
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 21 Jul 2004 11:56:47 -0700, [email protected]
> (Sam Sherrill) calmly ranted:
>
> >Every year in our cities and towns, thousands of trees and the lumber
> >they contain are thrown away in landfills, buried on construction
> >sites, ground up for mulch, or cut for firewood.
> >
> >At the same time, we pay dearly at lumber yards and home centers for
> >many of the hardwoods and softwoods we continue to burn, bury, grind,
> >and throw away.
> >
> >My book, Harvesting Urban Timber - A Complete Guide, encourages
> >woodworkers to make better use of urban timber by saving the best logs
> >for lumber. The book is full of photographs and expert reviewed,
> >computer-generated illustrations to help make clear the more
> >complicated aspects of urban logging and milling.
> >
> >http://www.harvestingurbantimber.com/book.html
>
> Sam, goodonya for the book. But why not put some more detail on
> Amazon, on your website, etc. so people can see WTF is -in- the
> book? Scan some pages (index, TOC, sample chapter pages) and let
> Amazon show them for you. Put them on your site so we'll be at
> least (OK, more) tempted to look. A single screen half full of
> ad copy doesn't constitute a book description.
>
> So what's in it? Is it only for city critters, or only for those
> with their own mills? Curious minds want to know!
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> I drive way too fast to worry about my cholesterol.
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>
[email protected] (Sam Sherrill) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
> My book, Harvesting Urban Timber - A Complete Guide, encourages
> woodworkers to make better use of urban timber by saving the best logs
> for lumber.
<snip>
Your book just got a plug in this month's Woodwork magazine. John Lavine
put it in his 'summer reading recommendations' list.
Some of the guys in our club do the harvesting thing, with some nice
results. And I've got two backyard trees lining up this year, from family
members.
I don't see a shortage of trees, or logs. It's the handling gear, the
proper mill/saw combination, and the space to dry the wood that is a
problem for me. By the time you outfit for all of that, you've got a small
milling operation, and the economics are pretty tough, in a high labor
cost, high real estate cost, high liability insurance cost area.
Maybe I should leave California again....
Patriarch
"TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> A block away from my home a 100+ California (Coast Live) Oak was
> felled, cut and stacked for firewood. I don't know how much of it
> would have been available for lumber but having just buying 100 BF of
> quartersawn, it made me ill.
Two or three years ago, our woodworking club (www.diablowoodworkers.com)
participated in a project, where the wood from a similar heritage tree was
saved, and used in a wide range of projects, which were then featured in a
local gallery.
We're doing it again this year. Lumber making is scheduled for three weeks
from now.
Coastal oak is really difficult wood from which to make furniture. It
doesn't want to stabilize, or dry easily. It tends to check and split. It
has beautiful grain patterns, but seemingly, a mind of its own. The
turning and carving experts had the best results with it.
I don't turn yet. I don't carve. I'm not yet sure what I'm going to do
with my project. Perhaps something frame & panel, with a rustic, mission
or A&C feel to it, in a tall cabinet. We'll see. There's time to decide.
But it won't go straight to the burn pile.
Patriarch
Thank you all for your comments. A couple people have suggested I
provide a peek at what's inside so a new page has been added to the
website to provide just that.
http://www.harvestingurbantimber.com/peek.html
I am also going to check what is required to have an inside look
available on Amazon.
We also run a free ad service on the site to help connect mill owners
and people who have trees or logs to cut. The ads are organized by
state.
http://www.harvestingurbantimber.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl
If anyone is interested in owning a millwork operation in Latvia, I'm
not making this up, there's an ad for one for sale that keeps popping
up in the mills section.
I will be posting some individual responses soon.
Thanks again.
Tom Veatch wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:43:56 -0700, Larry Jaques
> <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote: <snip>
>
>>That may be because I'm currently reading
>>Larry Niven's "Fallen Angels"
>
> Larry, thanks for mentioning the Niven book. That's one I'd missed. And I
> do hate to miss any of Niven's work.
In that case, just in case you've missed it, there's a new Ringworld novel
out, "Ringworld's Children".
> Tom Veatch
> Wichita, KS USA
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 05:31:29 GMT, "David"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In Washington, there is a website called www.2good2toss.com that allows
>people to post surplus materials that they need to get rid of. Some of it is
>free, some of it is nearly free, but there is a lumber section.
>
>I would love to see more usage of sites like to share excess materials with
>the community rather than letting it rot on finished job sites.
there's also freecycle. it's a yahoo groups thing with regional groups
for a number of american cities.
"Sam Sherrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My book, Harvesting Urban Timber - A Complete Guide, encourages
Interesting book.
Would be nice to sneak a peek inside.
Appreciate the "shamless plug" in the subject. Makes it an obvious choice
whether to read or discard.
Thanks
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:49:44 -0400, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Tom Veatch wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:43:56 -0700, Larry Jaques
>> <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote: <snip>
>>
>>>That may be because I'm currently reading
>>>Larry Niven's "Fallen Angels"
>>
>> Larry, thanks for mentioning the Niven book. That's one I'd missed. And I
>> do hate to miss any of Niven's work.
>
>In that case, just in case you've missed it, there's a new Ringworld novel
>out, "Ringworld's Children".
>
>> Tom Veatch
>> Wichita, KS USA
Thanks go to you, too. That's two books to pick up next trip in to civilization.
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:43:56 -0700, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
<snip>
>That may be because I'm currently reading
>Larry Niven's "Fallen Angels"
Larry, thanks for mentioning the Niven book. That's one I'd missed. And I do hate to miss any of Niven's work.
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA