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"Jeff and Jennifer Cook"

15/01/2005 9:00 PM

Hidden door

I am in the process of building a new home and would like to have a room
that is hidden by a bookcase or antique buffet. Can anyone suggest a way of
doing this with either a hinge system or rollers that cannot be detected?
Any help would be appreciated.
Jeff


This topic has 12 replies

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"Upscale"

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

16/01/2005 6:50 AM

"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:csd2d2
>
> I think this very topic was discussed to death just about one year ago.

Yup. If I remember rightly, the most popular preference was a rolling door
using skateboard wheels.

JC

Jerry Cordell

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

16/01/2005 2:11 PM

Searched google groups for "hidden door" and came up with several hit
including the one referenced by Upscale

Upscale wrote:
> "Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:csd2d2
>
>>I think this very topic was discussed to death just about one year ago.
>
>
> Yup. If I remember rightly, the most popular preference was a rolling door
> using skateboard wheels.
>
>

JJ

in reply to Jerry Cordell on 16/01/2005 2:11 PM

16/01/2005 9:55 AM

Sun, Jan 16, 2005, 2:11pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Jerry=A0Cordell)
claims:
Searched google groups for "hidden door" and came up with several hit
including the one referenced by Upscale

Yeah? Then try the archives, with hidden door, hidden room, or
just hidden.
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?as_ugroup=3Drec.woodworking=
&lr=3D&num=3D30



JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- =A0Dale Carnegie

BT

Bill Thomas

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

18/01/2005 6:03 PM

Jeff and Jennifer Cook wrote:

> I am in the process of building a new home and would like to have a room
> that is hidden by a bookcase or antique buffet. Can anyone suggest a way of
> doing this with either a hinge system or rollers that cannot be detected?
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Jeff
>
>

Greetings,

Check this URL: http://www.hiddendoors.com/

Sincerely,
Bill Thomas

r

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

17/01/2005 4:33 AM

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:17:15 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:51:04 GMT, "J.B. Bobbitt"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>A fat lot of good it'll do you now. We all know you have a hidden room.
>
>What sort of drill bit should I use for hot lava ? I'm having trouble
>with the volcano-hollowing project where the brazed-in tungsten
>carbide tips are melting and falling out of my masonry drills.
>
>OTOH, the monorail is working really well now and the white jumpsuits
>look great !

They running a James Bond film festival on the telly over there Andy?
:-)

--RC
"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

Ma

Mark and Kim Smith

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

16/01/2005 1:42 AM

Jeff and Jennifer Cook wrote:

>I am in the process of building a new home and would like to have a room
>that is hidden by a bookcase or antique buffet. Can anyone suggest a way of
>doing this with either a hinge system or rollers that cannot be detected?
>Any help would be appreciated.
>Jeff
>
>
>
>

I think this very topic was discussed to death just about one year ago.
DAGS.

b

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

16/01/2005 4:50 PM

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:00:14 -0700, "Jeff and Jennifer Cook"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I am in the process of building a new home and would like to have a room
>that is hidden by a bookcase or antique buffet. Can anyone suggest a way of
>doing this with either a hinge system or rollers that cannot be detected?
>Any help would be appreciated.
>Jeff
>

I built one a few years back. I used skateboard trucks for the wheels
because the floor was a bit bumpy. it worked well. I'll post pictures
to ABPW

PR

Patrick R. Kane

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

17/01/2005 3:17 PM

[before pressing send, I did a Google and found this link, which shows
a plan for a pivot bookcase pretty much like I was going to build
http://www.garymkatz.com/Charts/pivot-bookcase.htm ]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:10:01 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>>On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:51 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>>I built one a few years back. I used skateboard trucks for the wheels
>>>because the floor was a bit bumpy. it worked well. I'll post pictures
>>>to ABPW

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of the skateboard
tracks (vice using casters).

>I used soss hinges. the big ones are expensive (IIRC about $50 each)
>but they worked a charm. http://www.soss.com/

I thought that was what I saw in the picture.

My solution isn't much cheaper. I was looking at center-hung pivot
hinges (like the swinging doors to restaurant kitchens), which are
$100 to $150/set.

http://www.usbuildersupply.com/Rixson/ch_pivot_sets.htm or
http://www.mckinneyhinge.com/subcatalog_prod.cfm?subcat_id=211

Instead of centering the hinge on the "door", I'd move it to the front
edge of the cabinet, hiding the hardware behind a 3/4" trim board.
With this setup, I could get less than 1/16" gap all around the case.

Thanks for the additional info.

FYI, one more link on "invisible hinges"
http://www.hardwaresource.com/Store_ViewCatLevel3.asp?Cat=599&OrderID=

b

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

17/01/2005 10:10 AM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:16:18 -0800, Patrick R. Kane <pat.kane> wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:51 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I built one a few years back. I used skateboard trucks for the wheels
>>because the floor was a bit bumpy. it worked well. I'll post pictures
>>to ABPW
>
>Thanks for sharing the pics. I'm about to do the same for an alcove
>that tucks into a staircase and the swinging bookcase is exactly what
>I was going to do (hide all that luggage).
>
>If you don't mind sharing additional info, what type of hinges did you
>use?

I used soss hinges. the big ones are expensive (IIRC about $50 each)
but they worked a charm.
http://www.soss.com/



> How did you set the trim on the hinged side so that it swung free
>and clear of the wall?

the soss hinges throw out quite a bit. I projected the frame of the
bookcase a bit from the carcase to cover the joint.



>
>Thanks,
>Pat


hope it helped.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

17/01/2005 3:17 AM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:51:04 GMT, "J.B. Bobbitt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>A fat lot of good it'll do you now. We all know you have a hidden room.

What sort of drill bit should I use for hot lava ? I'm having trouble
with the volcano-hollowing project where the brazed-in tungsten
carbide tips are melting and falling out of my masonry drills.

OTOH, the monorail is working really well now and the white jumpsuits
look great !

JB

"J.B. Bobbitt"

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

16/01/2005 10:51 PM

A fat lot of good it'll do you now. We all know you have a hidden room.


"Jeff and Jennifer Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am in the process of building a new home and would like to have a room
> that is hidden by a bookcase or antique buffet. Can anyone suggest a way
> of
> doing this with either a hinge system or rollers that cannot be detected?
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Jeff
>
>

PR

Patrick R. Kane

in reply to "Jeff and Jennifer Cook" on 15/01/2005 9:00 PM

16/01/2005 8:16 PM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:51 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>I built one a few years back. I used skateboard trucks for the wheels
>because the floor was a bit bumpy. it worked well. I'll post pictures
>to ABPW

Thanks for sharing the pics. I'm about to do the same for an alcove
that tucks into a staircase and the swinging bookcase is exactly what
I was going to do (hide all that luggage).

If you don't mind sharing additional info, what type of hinges did you
use? How did you set the trim on the hinged side so that it swung free
and clear of the wall?

Thanks,
Pat


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